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He remains an ex-convict.... Just that he was not imprisoned... He paid fines which does not nullify the conviction of the court....

tunwumi:
https://punchng.com/money-laundering-okupe-pays-n13m-escapes-two-year-jail/?amp

Shameless thief!!

How market Malami? Get it while you can the clock is ticking.

If Obi must remain untainted by this, he must now sack and distance himself from Doyin Okupe.

tunwumi:
https://punchng.com/money-laundering-okupe-pays-n13m-escapes-two-year-jail/?amp

This is the same way Tinubu paid $450k to avoid American prison

ChukwuObe:
Please go back to school. You dont even know the difference between will and we. That is why I know that many zombidients are stack illiterates

you are such an idiot for considering that the typo error was deliberate.

Okupe Ole!

Aufbauh:
Paying the fine however does not erase the fact that the DG PCC of the labour party is a convicted criminal.

This is the New Nigeria those zombidients were championing.

A criminal whom Obi choose as a VP placeholder and DG will definitely be instrumental to key official appointment in Obi's utopian government.

Hope you're not on APC's side of the fence sha, cause na that side worse pass. The majority of the other individuals that received the huge sum of cash constituting a money laundering offence and the person that gave those cash (Mr Dasuki) are all roaming free since they've defected to APC. Join APC and your past acts of corruption is forgiven and you'll be given a clean slate. Pot calling kettle black.

OLULAW:
If Obi must remain untainted by this, he must now sack and distance himself from Doyin Okupe.

Obi is part and parcel of old crooked corrupt establishment, cannot distance from the rot, unless he wants to loose his position to his VP.

If Obi so much as speak on this issue, that will end his candidacy in LP.

[quote author=tesppidd post=1a19287011]So you collect 200 million and then pay 13 million as fine?

Or has he been made to forfeit the 200 million?
Or am I missing something here?[/quote]Read and understand before making comments now.
He was convicted of handling more than the amount of cash allowed to be handled by any individual under the law. According to the law, no private individual must handle and do a transaction of ₦5million and above without using a financial institution. He was not convicted of stealing money o.
The funniest thing is that, majority of the individuals that received huge sum of money like him and the person that gave them the large sum are all roaming free. A lot of individuals that received money like him have joined APC and no investigation as being conducted into their alleged involvement in the criminal act of money laundering till date. I can't help but feel that this is a political move to discredit the Obi movement since he's using the same scam motto used by APC in 2015.

Aufbauh:
Paying the fine however does not erase the fact that the DG PCC of the labour party is a convicted criminal.

This is the New Nigeria those zombidients were championing.

A criminal whom Obi choose as a VP placeholder and DG will definitely be instrumental to key official appointment in Obi's utopian government.

How is he a criminal did they accuse him of stealing any money? If u say he is a criminal for receiving money in cash above the recommended threshold then tinibu is also a worser criminal for transporting cash in bullion vans which was seen by everyone.

Racoon:
"...Put simply, Tinubu was alleged to be a bagman handling and laundering drug money. Tinubu claimed the funds belonged to Kafaru Tinubu and Alhaja Habibat Mogaji, even though, years later, he told The News magazine that all the money belonged to him(crooked criminal ).

In the end, Tinubu forfeited $460,000 held in his name by Heritage Bank, where he and Akande had strong links. “Why did they return $1m?” Fani-Kayode asked.

The biggest lie, peddled by Keyamo and Fani-Kayode, is that the $460,000 forfeited by Tinubu was a tax.The cover sheet of the certified true copy of the settle ment, issued on August 10, 2022, explicitly states under “Nature of Suit” that it’s forfeiture under “Code 625: Drug related seizure of property 21 USC 881.” The two boxes under “Federal tax suits” were not ticked. So, the $460, 000 was not a tax but a drug-related forfeiture.

Tinubu’s surrogates and spin doctors say he wasn’t indicted or convicted. But no rational individual would forfeit $460,000 of his hard-earned money, especially when linked to drug trafficking, without fighting to clear his name.

By having a “drug related seizure of property” recorded against his name, Tinubu is seriously tainted as a presidential candidate, and would cause Nigeria huge embarrassment if he became president....

"Tinubu as president? Buhari must really hate Nigeria"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2022/11/tinubu-as-president-buhari-must-really-hate-nigeria/amp/

I read something pertaining to the forfeiture and was like how will any sane individual follow a candidate like this. It's true that in this our modern day Nigeria, many are mad but few are roaming the streets.

PassingShot:
Common sense should tell you that their charges were filed separately and being handled by different judges and different courts. As such, determination/conclusion of all the cases won't happen same time.

Another lie from the pit of hell. By the way, when will Gandollar ever be investigated??
Dude was recorded live collecting dollar bribes and hiding it inside his babariga.

BAZ001:
Only in Nigeria will you steal 200 million and pay 13 million as fine and go free.
But if they catch one hungry boy stealing yam or rice dey will send him to kirikiri prison

Btw dis man na obesity or transgender see breast and fat tommy ?

The greatest way to fool many Nigerians is by putting your idea/agenda/scheme in writing. He was convicted of money laundering and not stealing Bobo.

Dybala11:
The greatest way to fool many Nigerians is by putting your idea/agenda/scheme in writing. He was convicted of money laundering and not stealing Bobo.

Hmmm
so what’s the difference between money laundering and stealing ?

What’s the difference between embezzling and stealing ?

You want to use English to confuse us the more
Stealing = ole , Ba ra wo, onye oshi….. thief na thief

BAZ001:
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Hmmm
so what’s the difference between money laundering and stealing ?

What’s the difference between embezzling and stealing ?

You want to use English to confuse us the more
Stealing = ole , Ba ra wo, onye oshi….. thief na thief

Jesus, wallowing in ignorance and not knowing it, is as good as being dead o. The question should have been what is the meaning of money laundering bro. At least understand the meaning of words before you start disgracing yourself on a public forum like this.
Lemme give you a scenario to explain the difference between the two. Let's say for instance that I'm the richest man alive and as a Nigerian, I wanted to use just ₦5 million to sort something out. If I go ahead to pay the money in cash then it's an act of money laundering. Will you now imply that I stole money??
I just pray you understand the simple example given o.

BAZ001:
Hmmm
so what’s the difference between money laundering and stealing ?

What’s the difference between embezzling and stealing ?

You want to use English to confuse us the more
Stealing = ole , Ba ra wo, onye oshi….. thief na thief

Well on your last statement, I agree with you though. All Nigerian politicians, BAT, Atiku and Obi, are thieves.

Dybala11:
Well on your last statement, I agree with you though. All Nigerian politicians, BAT, Atiku and Obi, are thieves.

Gbam…
100% right
And I agree with you too

But obi-dients won’t like that how can you say obi is a thief?
Where is the proof that he stole ?

Obi is a saint

Dybala11:
Jesus, wallowing in ignorance and not knowing it, is as good as being dead o. The question should have been what is the meaning of money laundering bro. At least understand the meaning of words before you start disgracing yourself on a public forum like this.
Lemme give you a scenario to explain the difference between the two. Let's say for instance that I'm the richest man alive and as a Nigerian, I wanted to use just ₦5 million to sort something out. If I go ahead to pay the money in cash then it's an act of money laundering. Will you now imply that I stole money??
I just pray you understand the simple example given o.

Sir the money in question was traced from government to you ? Did you work for the money ?
If yes why are you carrying it in cash and not right means ?

Money laundering is money that is not declared or hiding ?

If you money is clean u will not launder it. What you described up there is not true , if you are a business man or musician you will declare that you taking dis money in cash for any reason.
Not hide it .

So you will hold bill gate for carry cash or even dangote or wiz kid ?
Ordinary zazuu will not be charged for carry cash

BAZ001:
Sir the money in question was traced from government to you ? Did you work for the money ?
If yes why are you carrying it in cash and not right means ?

Money laundering is money that is not declared or hiding ?

If you money is clean u will not launder it. What you described up there is not true , if you are a business man or musician you will declare that you taking dis money in cash for any reason.
Not hide it .

So you will hold bill gate for carry cash or even dangote or wiz kid ?
Ordinary zazuu will not be charged for carry cash

Did EFCC try to investigate whether he used the money for what he said he used it for??
Was he convicted for embezzling or diversion of government funds??
The headline of his conviction says he committed a crime of money laundering and that's all.
Bros, that's the provision of the law, as funny as it may be. That's exactly why I can't help but feel that it's a political move. Cos this is a law that is flouted almost on a daily basis. They have to wait until elections are near to sentence someone of that offence while some others that did the same act were not charged cause they've joined the ruling party. Common, it's a very bold statement bros.

BAZ001:
Sir the money in question was traced from government to you ? Did you work for the money ?
If yes why are you carrying it in cash and not right means ?

Money laundering is money that is not declared or hiding ?

If you money is clean u will not launder it. What you described up there is not true , if you are a business man or musician you will declare that you taking dis money in cash for any reason.
Not hide it .

So you will hold bill gate for carry cash or even dangote or wiz kid ?
Ordinary zazuu will not be charged for carry cash

By the way, he said he was given the money to sort out specific issues o. Proving that he either diverted the fund or that it was not his place to get funds to sort out what he's claiming he was told to do should be the way forward o.
Wait, you were referring to Peter Obi in one of your comments bah. Nigerian politicians can't fool me twice at all.

BAZ001:
Sir the money in question was traced from government to you ? Did you work for the money ?
If yes why are you carrying it in cash and not right means ?

Money laundering is money that is not declared or hiding ?

If you money is clean u will not launder it. What you described up there is not true , if you are a business man or musician you will declare that you are taking dis money in cash for any reason.
Not hide it .

So you will hold bill gate for carry cash or even dangote or wiz kid ?
Ordinary zazuu will not be charged for carry cash

Hiding it or not doesn't make you less guilty of money laundering bros, once you handle and process cash of about ₦5 million and above as a citizen or you handle and process cash of ₦10 million as a corporate body, for a transaction without using a financial institution as a go-between, then you've committed the act of money laundering bro. The justification for doing that can constitute a separate crime though.

You will need to read the judgement very well before jumping into abysmal conclusion.

Note: he was not convicted for the purpose and usage of the money rather, he was convicted for the means used in collection the money (cash). Mind you, the president approved the money for him but instead of collecting through the bank he collected cash instead

Racoon:
Not good enough.Now he goes free. There ought not to be any shitty option of bail, fine or plea bargain as far as corruption is concerned in Nigeria given that all these have simply been leeways these highly placed but indicted crooks used to escape justice.

There is serious need for the legislation to upgrade this punishment to outright capital punishment of death by hanging or firing squad. This is the only option that will really instill sense and fear in the future aspiring corrupt people especially politicians.

xratedxG:
The money was authorized for him by the then president. So it's not illegal money per se
Where he fell short of the law is the mode of collection

But not in cash ,to the tune of ₦20,000,000.00
Twenty million naira, who does that