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LegalWolf:
Like the stray advocatejare, you want to stray from the question! You CANNOT answer because you do not have an answer.

Think TenQ !!!!!!!!!!!!! And know that it is absolutely inconceivable for Jesus to be god. God of who and where? He is just like you and I with the only difference that GOD, THE ALMIGHTY gave him bigger powers than us. Outside that, Jesus is absolutely not different from me!

MrCodeSolo:
this is real translation:

Mufti Taqi Usmani

O our people, respond to Allah’s herald, and believe in him, and (once you do that,) Allah will forgive your sins for you, and will save you from a painful punishment.

LegalWolf:
Potential Thief TenQ

There is another question troubling my soul on salvation and would you do me the favour of answering it? Unlike this stray advocatejare, please do not stray away from the question.

Is that a promise I can rely on?

TenQ:
Sorry, You've missed your chance until you CHANGE!

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LegalWolf:
Lol. Are you ashamed of your religion that you cannot defend it? We do not need you to stray like the stray advocatejare…just one question.


Okay please TenQ I am tempted to say Bingo eat bone pleaseeeeee. But I won’t!

….Just one question

TenQ:
Are you saying that the post below is summarised by your translation above?

If you ask any Muslim the Question:
"Who has the power to forgive sins?", The obvious response would be Allah only!
AND
If you ask any Muslim the Question:
"Who has the power to admit people into paradise"? , The obvious response still would be Allah only!

HOWEVER:
Evidence from the Shahada:
1. We know that it is impossible for anyone now to become a Muslim WITHOUT reciting the shahada pledging a belief in both Allah and Mohammed.

2. Evidence from the Qur'an
Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah’s summoner and believe in Him. He will forgive you some of your sins and guard you from a painful doom.

Observations:
1. Muslims are enjoined by Allah to have faith in Mohammed
2. Mohammed has the power to forgive sins of Muslims AND
3. save them from painful hellfire
4. HOWEVER, It seems UNLIKE Allah, Mohammed can only forgive SOME of Muslim's sins.

This is also confirmed in the next Quranic verse
Qur'an 4:64
We sent no messenger save that he should be obeyed by Allah’s leave. And if, when they had wronged themselves, they had but come unto thee and asked forgiveness of Allah, and asked forgiveness of the messenger, they would have found Allah Forgiving, Merciful.

We can see two personalities who can forgive sins
1. Allah
2. Mohammed the Messanger

3. Evidence from the Hadith
To make it more clear, we can check the Hadiths (the hadith is long but you can read the full text in www.sunnah.com

Sahih Bukhari 7410
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah will gather the believers on the Day of Resurrection in the same way (as they are gathered in this life), and they will say, 'Let us ask someone to intercede for us with our Lord that He may relieve us from this place of ours.' ..
...
They will go to Jesus who will say, 'I am not fit for this undertaking, but you'd better go to Muhammad whose sins of the past and the future had been forgiven (by Allah).' So they will come to me and I will ask the permission of my Lord, and I will be permitted (to present myself) before Him. ..... O Muhammad! Raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to; and ask, for you will be granted (your request); and intercede, for your intercession will be accepted.' I will then raise my head and praise my Lord with certain praises which He has taught me, and then I will intercede. Allah will allow me to intercede (for a certain kind of people) and will fix a limit whom I will admit into Paradise.

The story starts from Adam, then to Noah, then to Abraham, then to Moses and eventually to Jesus who would ALL reject the assignment because they are UNFIT for it.

It is amazing that even though Jesus didn't have any excuse for being UNFIT, he recommends Mohammed as the one that is perfect for the assignment.

To cut the long story short, we can see that Mohammed would be the one to ADMIT people into paradise and NOT Allah.

Yet, Muslims try to convince everyone that only Allah can admit people into paradise.

QUESTIONS:
1. Since we can see that Mohammed can forgive Sins like Allah AND he is the one to Admit Muslims into paradise; What are the explanations you have that Mohammed is not a PARTNER with Allah?
2. What are the kinds of sins Mohammed cannot forgive?

MrCodeSolo:
1 Mufti Taqi Usmani
We did not send any Messenger but to be obeyed by the leave of Allah. Had they, after having wronged themselves, come to you and sought forgiveness from Allah, and had the Messenger prayed for their forgiveness, they would certainly have found Allah Most-Relenting, Very-Merciful.

TenQ:
The worst of the heathens shouldn't do some of the things Mohammed did...like flirting with and finally marrying the young wife of his adopted son.
And when even the heathen Arabs complained, he fabricated some ayahs for it in the Qur'an.

Mohammed's followers accused him of stealing a red velvet cloth. He quickly fabricated a Qur'an as a rebuttal!

How Muslims accept the man as the best of mankind is unbelievable!

BJanta:
They're beguiled by satan. That's
why they're always violent. The one
they call allahu is the religion demon
in charge of islam.

TenQ:
Muslims tell BIG lies whenever they try to cover up the misnomers in their Quran, Hadiths and Tafsirs especially when doing translation. I have helped you to break it down: you can confirm.

Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah’s summoner and believe in Him. He will forgive you some of your sins and guard you from a painful doom.
Arabic
يَـٰقَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ دَاعِىَ ٱللَّهِ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍۢ ٣١

and believe in him= وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ
he will forgive you =بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم
of your sins =مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ

Qur'an 4:64
We sent no messenger save that he should be obeyed by Allah’s leave. And if, when they had wronged themselves, they had but come unto thee and asked forgiveness of Allah, and asked forgiveness of the messenger, they would have found Allah Forgiving, Merciful.
Arabic
وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا مِن رَّسُولٍ إِلَّا لِيُطَاعَ بِإِذْنِ ٱللَّهِ ۚ وَلَوْ أَنَّهُمْ إِذ ظَّلَمُوٓا۟ أَنفُسَهُمْ جَآءُوكَ فَٱسْتَغْفَرُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَٱسْتَغْفَرَ لَهُمُ ٱلرَّسُولُ لَوَجَدُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ تَوَّابًۭا رَّحِيمًۭا

ask forgiveness of Allah = جَآءُوكَ فَٱسْتَغْفَرُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ
and ask forgiveness of the messanger = وَٱسْتَغْفَرَ لَهُمُ ٱلرَّسُولُ
they would have found allah forgiving merciful = لَوَجَدُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ تَوَّابًۭا رَّحِيمًۭا


Your Translation is VERY WRONG Sir!


Mohammed forgives sins of Muslims!

Mufti Taqi Usmani
We did not send any Messenger but to be obeyed by the leave of Allah. Had they, after having wronged themselves, come to you and sought forgiveness from Allah, and had the Messenger prayed for their forgiveness, they would certainly have found Allah Most-Relenting, Very-Merciful.

MrCodeSolo:
semantic loss in the Holy Qur’an Translation,
there seems to exist either frequent partial or complete semantic loss of meanings mostly due to mistranslations, semantic complexity of the vocabularies, and culture. Both Arabic and English languages have differences in form, and they both make different distinctions in meaning. For example, the plurality in the Holy Qur’an does not serve only for a grammatical purpose; it adds extra meaning that sometimes gives the opposite connotations. The Arabic word الريح [alreeh] “wind,” which is singular, has punishment meaning. Whereas the second word الرياح [alriah], which is plural, has a blessing and bounty meaning.

English lacks a specific term hyponym. something like pigeon, crow, eagle, and seagull are all hyponyms of bird, an Arabic lexical item may have many hyponyms, whereas the English linguistic system does not have equivalent lexical items for the Arabic hyponyms and the list goes on and on.
Like some culture-specific terms and concepts in the two languages, Like most arabic terms that are not properly lexicalized in English, let alone the conspicuous differences between Arabic and English in expressive meaning, etc.

one of the difficulties in translating the Holy Qur’an is that some lexicons are Qur’an specific? However, for a text such as the Holy Qur’an, which conveys the words of Allah the Almighty, translating it poses lots of difficulties and quandaries for early translators. Once again, this is a proper English translation:

TenQ:
It is a lame excuse to blame the LANGUAGE of transmission!
Hebrew and Arabic are from the same Semitic Language group: have you ever heard Christians complaining that the language cannot be translated ?