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forgiveness:
Has Messi won 3 world cups?

In 1958, he scored in knockout stages including hattrick in the final at 17 years old yet he was carried. The best young player of the tournament (he was actually the best).

In 1962, he played the 2 matches before he was taken off due to injury.

1970, the best player of the tournament.

Yet, he was carried.

Na only WC una fit dey rate Pele. Show us his personal awards like best player in the same WC, and you all will go into hiding.

Golden Boot in WC = ZERO
Golden ball in WC = ZERO
Best playmaker = ZERO
Highest assist = ZERO
Enter Europe and test the water level = ERROR

How can a guy score over 1000 goals and you aren't the highest goal scorer or best player in any WC you played?
SCAM!!!

Debroslink:
Pele was playing in the farmer's league when Di Stefano was winning UCL 5 times in a row. Baba no get liver come Europe. He dey form goat for farmer's league.

A goat who hasn't tested water depths of Europe can't be called the GOAT

Oga the Brazilian government declared Pele a national treasure and Santos was the strongest team in the world then.

Know your history

busquet that has jorginho vibes ,no thank you

A40:
Imagine thinking Pele won't dominate this era as well.

I don't want to get into these GOAT arguments anymore. They are forever subjective

If you say it's Messi. Fine

If you say it's Pele. Fine

If you say it's Ronaldo. Fine

It’s always been Ronaldo against the world!!!

Ibime:
Rubbish. Nothing you posted refers to Pele

In fact no reputable football organisation is yet to put him above PELE in any ranking

The same reputable organisation that said this after Ronaldo won his 2nd international trophy while Messi had zero

Debroslink:
Pele was playing in the farmer's league when Di Stefano was winning UCL 5 times in a row. Baba no get liver come Europe. He dey form goat for farmer's league.

A goat who hasn't tested water depths of Europe can't be called the GOAT

Remember farmer's league player smashed UEFA Champions wotowoto.

Joezinho:

It’s always been Ronaldo against the world!!!

Not Euros.. The UNL.

He won it earlier that month, later that month goal tweeted this.. July Messi and Argentina lost to Brazil in the copa semis

donstan18:
No more World CUP pictures to post?

Wow! That was quick!!

So show us where Messi outplayed Mbappe in his life and I’ll show you where Ronaldo outplayed every existing player ever.

Anything Messi, this is going to be your reply...

If you like shalaye from now till the end of time.

This is it...

1 world cup>>>>>>Infinity stones

I await thy mentions

Ballzproblem2:
busquet that has jorginho vibes ,no thank you

Gbasquet.. . Barka clowns will say he carried the team to win the WC.

Debroslink:
Pele was playing in the farmer's league when Di Stefano was winning UCL 5 times in a row. Baba no get liver come Europe. He dey form goat for farmer's league.

A goat who hasn't tested water depths of Europe can't be called the GOAT

Ignorance on marble

Brazil NT players were banned from playing abroad and Pele was råping your UCL winners in Intercontinental Cup while South American teams dominated Intercontinental Cup

Who will go to Europe while playing in better competitions and being the highest paid athlete in the World in his own hometown

Europe ko, Europe ni

liveLongNprospa:
Oga the Brazilian government declared Pele a national treasure and Santos was the strongest team in the world then.

Know your history

Santos, strongest team? Di Stefano will slap you for this crap you just said.

He "conquered" Latin America. Oya come Europe, baba japa to USA. You will soon tell us New York Cosmos was the strongest team in the world too.

Pele fan base is growing all thanks to Messi, NTA, YouTube and Wiki

Ibime:
That one no consign me

Whoever is struggling for data to follow their passion and understand it should answer their father name

Some of us grew up reading World Soccer Magazine every month for over a decade which gives you concise historical breakdowns, we watched all FIFA world Cup documentaries, many Pele documentaries etc

Some people football ends at the viewing centre. Some people football is ingrained over decades of knowledge, writings and videos, knowing the key events, personalities and import of occasions in an era. These have been in my library over a decade and a half, I can't find the Pele one. I must not watch Pele live to know he was far more dominant and acclaimed than someone relying on Goalkeeper for penalties just like someone 59 years from now must not watch Messi live to appreciate him. The A in GOAT stands for ALL time, and nobody is alive for all time.

Boss this one na long talk na. They is a big difference between reading magazines and all of that and watching a player play live on your TV set or physically in the stadium week in and week out.

Debroslink:
Santos, strongest team? Di Stefano will slap you for this crap you just said.

He "conquered" Latin America. Oya come Europe, baba japa to USA. You will soon tell us New York Cosmos was the strongest team in the world too.

Why do you think Pele didn't come to Europe at the peak of his powers?

liveLongNprospa:
The same reputable organisation that said this after Ronaldo won his 2nd international trophy while Messi had zero

You think GOAL is a reputable organisation. GOAL that we wrote articles for while still in Uni?

Learn to diffentiate between Twitter handlers tweeting out for engagement and organisations official positions. France football magazine can tweet anything but when they do serious awards (eg Balon d'Or), that's a different thing

Ibime:
You think GOAL is a reputable organisation. GOAL that we wrote articles for while still in Uni?

Learn to diffentiate between Twitter handlers tweeting out for engagement and organisations official positions. France football magazine can tweet anything but when they do serious awards (eg Balon d'Or), that's a different thing

I'm trying to further prover your point.. None is reputable to me.

Everybody get their bias

Debroslink:
Na only WC una fit dey rate Pele. Show us his personal awards like best player in the same WC, and you all will go into hiding.

Golden Boot in WC = ZERO
Golden ball in WC = ZERO
Best playmaker = ZERO
Highest assist = ZERO
Enter Europe and test the water level = ERROR

How can a guy score over 1000 goals and you aren't the highest goal scorer or best player in any WC you played?
SCAM!!!

He be like say you dey live for Pluto.

Pele was 1970 wc Golden ball winner. Olodo.

Intercontinental cup all time highest goalscorer.

See as he test the water level with the current European cup Champions Benfica but dem collect wotowoto.

Expert17:
Pele fan base is growing all thanks to Messi, NTA, YouTube and Wiki

All because of a single picture

Joezinho:
Gbasquet.. . Barka clowns will say he carried the team to win the WC.

him and jorginho no difference,they contribute absolutely nothing to the team ,lanky,no pace , simple pass ,so no

Expert17:
Pele fan base is growing all thanks to Messi, NTA, YouTube and Wiki

If someone can be dragging with you 60 years later, just know he is eternal

Give it ten years, all the euphoria will be gone and they will be putting Messi in his proper position, assessing his contributions clinically in relation to others

When Iniesta was winning WC and Euros, he was the greatest AM ever according to the euphoria of the day, just 5 years later he was being dragged for Modric and others

Messi that won just last week with high in-game emotions is dragging with Pele. What of 60 years from now when no one gives a fúck about the minute details of the game. Pele is eternal

Ballzproblem2:
busquet that has jorginho vibes ,no thank you

Zubimendi ? Lol

If you know that player you will be happy

He is not even similar to busquets

But this is what you get when you take so many fake news serious

Ibime:
If someone can be dragging with you 60 years later, just know he is eternal

Give it ten years, all the euphoria will be gone and they will be putting Messi in his proper position, assessing his contributions clinically in relation to others

When Iniesta was winning WC and Euros, he was the greatest AM ever according to the euphoria of the day, just 5 years later he was being dragged for Modric and others

Messi that won just last week with high in-game emotions is dragging with Pele. What of 60 years from now when no one gives a fúck about the minute details of the game. Pele is eternal

Then we will look at people topping charts like goals scored

Joezinho:
Gbasquet.. . Barka clowns will say he carried the team to win the WC.

Talk about Messi you shameless man

You wanna cover up with busquets ?

Pele now has fans

Shameless people

SCAM everywhere... Dem dey mention Benfica as if Benfica is a true elite European club.

Paolo Guerrero from Corinthians defeated Chelsea (defending UCL champions) at CWC 2012.

Let's add Guerrero to the GOAT talk then

Nonsense Pele "fans"

Messi is eternal and bigger than any player in football history.

Know this and know peace

andrewbaba44:
Pele now has fans

Shameless people

Fans that watched 5 mins highlights against farmers in Brazil league.

Expert17:
Messi is eternal and bigger than any player in football history.

Know this and know peace

What do you think of Martinez penalty stopping styles where he follows the ball most times instead of gambling

Even the kicks Mbappe scored he followed them

forgiveness:
Has Messi won 3 world cups?

In 1958, he scored in the knockout stages including a hattrick in the final at 17 years old yet he was carried. Won the best young player of the tournament (he was actually the best).

In 1962, he played the 2 matches before he was taken off due to injury.

1970, the best player of the tournament.

Yet, he was carried.

Your first point, you don’t use one game to win wc. Messi has been best player in two wc. He was carried to two of his wc which is fact. Brazil is the biggest footballing nation. On individual level, messi is the greatest footbalrt of all time.

Expert17:
Fans that watched 5 mins highlights against farmers in Brazil league.

Expert17:
Messi is eternal and bigger than any player in football history.

Know this and know peace

I know a GOAT who played in 1524, I dey try remember his name.
I will tell you when a recall.

Expert17:
Messi is eternal and bigger than any player in football history.

Know this and know peace

Make them dey play

raumdeuter:
What do you think of Martinez penalty stopping styles where he follows the ball most times instead of gambling

Even the kicks Mbappe scored he followed them

Are you for or against messi being the best player this game have ever had.