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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:16pm On Dec 22, 2022
Nigeria has the highest % per adult population on Crypto transactions globally.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:19pm On Dec 22, 2022
rvp20182:
You are world leader in minerals..but you're lucky to have stupid south Africa.. elsewhere you would in holland driving your bicycle now
OK and? grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:28pm On Dec 22, 2022
jl115:
OK and? grin grin
No hunting in Holland!! grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:04pm On Dec 22, 2022
And south african blacks should be rich - and you should be in holland driving your bicyle if it was anywhere else in africa - but you have subdued the Khoisans - the weakest of black race after Ghanians.

Now the majority blacks fair no better than barren resource dry kenya - yet nature has blessed them with incredible mineral resources.

South Africa is Saudi Arabia of minerals.

jl115:
OK and? grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:08pm On Dec 22, 2022
Doesnt look plausible or credible. I guess they have taken e-naira to be crypto currency
GeneralDae:
Nigeria has the highest % per adult population on Crypto transactions globally.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae:
rvp2018:
Doesnt look plausible or credible. I guess they have taken e-naira to be crypto currency
Bloomberg is not plausible or credible?
Enaira has not even gained traction and people's love for cryptocurrency is one of the major reasons.
You are fvcking hilarious.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:18pm On Dec 22, 2022
rvp2018:
And south african blacks should be rich - and you should be in holland driving your bicyle if it was anywhere else in africa - but you have subdued the Khoisans - the weakest of black race after Ghanians.

Now the majority blacks fair no better than barren resource dry kenya - yet nature has blessed them with incredible mineral resources.

South Africa is Saudi Arabia of minerals.
Ghanaians remain the strongest.
Rant all you want

Don't worry, together with the South Africans, we prefer donkeys grin grin

We won't ever be weaklings to be disposed of lands or be castrated. grin

I like the way you wish your country resources will attract investments for development. To be able to do that require great minds which Kenya doesn't have
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 10:25pm On Dec 22, 2022
rvp2018:
And south african blacks should be rich - and you should be in holland driving your bicyle if it was anywhere else in africa - but you have subdued the Khoisans - the weakest of black race after Ghanians.

Now the majority blacks fair no better than barren resource dry kenya - yet nature has blessed them with incredible mineral resources.

South Africa is Saudi Arabia of minerals.
An average Ghanaian is richer than an average kenya . An average Ghanaian enjoys basic of social life than a middle income kenya earner . More socialize as well and well open up to the global world . We aren't a villager here.remember many Kenya are largely in rural area , that is about 70 percent.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:46pm On Dec 22, 2022
rvp2018:
And south african blacks should be rich - and you should be in holland driving your bicyle if it was anywhere else in africa - but you have subdued the Khoisans - the weakest of black race after Ghanians.

Now the majority blacks fair no better than barren resource dry kenya - yet nature has blessed them with incredible mineral resources.

South Africa is Saudi Arabia of minerals.
jeezez why you Kenyans always resort to race when you lost a debate ? grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:13am On Dec 23, 2022
That 63 million Nigeria makes regular crypto transaction is implausible. That is my own take based purely on common sense and heavy dose of distrust of cryptos generally.

GeneralDae:
Bloomberg is not plausible or credible?
Enaira has not even gained traction and people's love for cryptocurrency is one of the major reasons.
You are fvcking hilarious.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:27am On Dec 23, 2022
Why is race not an issue when we are talking south africa economy? It's the elephant in the room. You've had centuries of privelege sitting on the poor weak Khoisan and the data speak for itself.

South Africans blacks unemployment is almost 50% - the Boer unemployment is 7%. The income disparity staggering.

Here you're ordering a custom-made sprinter while your friend is stuck in soweto slums without much upward mobility.

jl115:
jeezez why you Kenyans always resort to race when you lost a debate ? grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:30am On Dec 23, 2022
With all your gold since 15th century and now oil, you should be way richer but every time I check the data - I dont see any much difference with kenya - the per capita is almost the same at 2,200usd.

There are countries that I respect like Botswana and Namibia - those are middle class - Ghana - please pay debt first. You dont impress me at all.

vaxx:
An average Ghanaian is richer than an average kenya . An average Ghanaian enjoys basic of social life than a middle income kenya earner . More socialize as well and well open up to the global world . We aren't a villager here.remember many Kenya are largely in rural area , that is about 70 percent.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:33am On Dec 23, 2022
You are not at South African level. Stop being delusional. Now with bankruptcy you need another 50yrs to get to South Africa level. Kenya just need 15yrs.
Just30:
Ghanaians remain the strongest.
Rant all you want

Don't worry, together with the South Africans, we prefer donkeys grin grin

We won't ever be weaklings to be disposed of lands or be castrated. grin

I like the way you wish your country resources will attract investments for development. To be able to do that require great minds which Kenya doesn't have
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:04am On Dec 23, 2022
rvp2018:
Why is race not an issue when we are talking south africa economy? It's the elephant in the room. You've had centuries of privelege sitting on the poor weak Khoisan and the data speak for itself.

South Africans blacks unemployment is almost 50% - the Boer unemployment is 7%. The income disparity staggering.

Here you're ordering a custom-made sprinter while your friend is stuck in soweto slums without much upward mobility.
You talk down on black SAns as if you yourself are in a better position.....the fact is a black SAn is twice as well of as a Kenyan, so while you try and degrade black SAns just remember you are beneath wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:05am On Dec 23, 2022
rvp2018:
You are not at South African level. Stop being delusional. Now with bankruptcy you need another 50yrs to get to South Africa level. Kenya just need 15yrs.
Kenya isn't catching SA in our lifetime
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 8:23am On Dec 23, 2022
rvp2018:
That 63 million Nigeria makes regular crypto transaction is implausible. That is my own take based purely on common sense and heavy dose of distrust of cryptos generally.
So Bloomberg gives a report based on the number of crypto transactions in the last month, you are saying we should reject their report and believe you?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:25am On Dec 23, 2022
I dont talk down blacks - I want them to prosper in a country that is two in one - one part developed - the other undeveloped. That undeveloped part should adopt stuff like cheap motor cycles. That was the debate.
jl115:
You talk down on black SAns as if you yourself are in a better position.....the fact is a black SAn is twice as well of as a Kenyan, so while you try and degrade black SAns just remember you are beneath wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:26am On Dec 23, 2022
I am saying I dont believe it. I didnt tell you how to react to it.
GeneralDae:
So Bloomberg gives a report based on the number of crypto transactions in the last month, you are saying we should reject their report and believe you?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 8:31am On Dec 23, 2022
rvp2018:
I am saying I dont believe it. I didnt tell you how to react to it.
Okay, I thought you were saying your feeling is the truth.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:36am On Dec 23, 2022
Most of the time - my gut feeling is very close to the truth.
GeneralDae:
Okay, I thought you were saying your feeling is the truth.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:42am On Dec 23, 2022
The best predictor of the future is the past;
15yrs ago - kenya gdp per capita was not even 700 - now it's 2100 - 3 times.
15yrs ago - South Africa gdp was exactly where it is now - around 6500usd
One is growing very fast - the other is stuck in a middle class rut.
One is adopting ASIAN model of growth based on human capital investment- one is on the LATAM minning then chaos, crime, drugs path to nowhere.

Kenya right now need to just double it's GDP per capita to be like south africa - upper middle class.

That will happen in a decade or even less.

jl115:
Kenya isn't catching SA in our lifetime
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:47am On Dec 23, 2022
rvp2018:
I dont talk down blacks - I want them to prosper in a country that is two in one - one part developed - the other undeveloped. That undeveloped part should adopt stuff like cheap motor cycles. That was the debate.
but that underdeveloped part is twice as developed as your country?? So what puts you in the position to say anything?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 8:47am On Dec 23, 2022
rvp2018:
With all your gold since 15th century and now oil, you should be way richer but every time I check the data - I dont see any much difference with kenya - the per capita is almost the same at 2,200usd.

There are countries that I respect like Botswana and Namibia - those are middle class - Ghana - please pay debt first. You dont impress me at all.
same way you caught up to us in HDI?

The game between Kenya 1900 per Capita and Ghana 2400 is huge enough

It gives you a perspective enough
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:48am On Dec 23, 2022
rvp2018:
The best predictor of the future is the past;
15yrs ago - kenya gdp per capita was not even 700 - now it's 2100 - 3 times.
15yrs ago - South Africa gdp was exactly where it is now - around 6500usd
One is growing very fast - the other is stuck in a middle class rut.
One is adopting ASIAN model of growth based on human capital investment- one is on the LATAM minning then chaos, crime, drugs path to nowhere.

Kenya right now need to just double it's GDP per capita to be like south africa - upper middle class.

That will happen in a decade or even less.
And yet the IMF, World Bank, PWC all clearly put SA ahead untill at least 2080 and still far above Kenya wrt GDP capita until.... Eternity I guess
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:50am On Dec 23, 2022
They are parts of kenya that are developed - they are part not developed. They are slums in south africa. They are people living poorly in remote south africa.

They are thousands black kenyans richer than white south africans.

jl115:
but that underdeveloped part is twice as developed as your country?? So what puts you in the position to say anything?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:51am On Dec 23, 2022
GeneralDae:
Nigeria has the highest % per adult population on Crypto transactions globally.
makes sense
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 8:53am On Dec 23, 2022
rvp2018:
You are not at South African level. Stop being delusional. Now with bankruptcy you need another 50yrs to get to South Africa level. Kenya just need 15yrs.
well my country come behind SA in most development so and no one said Ghana was at SA level.

At least we all know that it will take Kenya 50 years to get to Ghana level and an extra 50 years to get to SA level and that is only if both countries decide to be stagnant.

Your delusions alone won't get you there, proper investment in your citizens is what can get you there.

The last time I checked Ghana's investment in bringing up each Ghanaian from childhood to adulthood was still 3 times higher than Kenya.. you won't catch up if that gap still exist.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:53am On Dec 23, 2022
rvp2018:
They are parts of kenya that are developed - they are part not developed. They are slums in south africa. They are people living poorly in remote south africa.

They are thousands black kenyans richer than white south africans.
The average black South African earns twice the average Kenyan and lives in considerably less poverty..... So again, what puts you in the position to say anything about development?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:53am On Dec 23, 2022
They never predicted you will be stuck in middle class the last 15yrs did they.
You're going nowhere because Latin America is good case study for you.
You're stuck in middle class trap.
You're unable to discover the trick South Asians have used to prosper.

One of them is motor cylces smiley
https://unhabitat.org/sites/default/files/2013/06/GRHS.2013.Case_.Study_.Bangkok.Thailand.pdf

See Bangkok - how it look - now.


jl115:
And yet the IMF, World Bank, PWC all clearly put SA ahead untill at least 2080 and still far above Kenya wrt GDP capita until.... Eternity I guess
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:55am On Dec 23, 2022
The fact that they are million south africans living in slums. If you were developed country - I will have no advice for you. Certainly South Africa is ahead of kenya - but remember we are dealing with unequal country.
jl115:
The average black South African earns twice the average Kenyan and lives in considerably less poverty..... So again, what puts you in the position to say anything about development?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:56am On Dec 23, 2022
rvp2018:
They never predicted you will be stuck in middle class the last 15yrs did they.
You're going nowhere because Latin America is good case study for you.
You're stuck in middle class trap.
You're unable to discover the trick South Asians have used to prosper.

One of them is motor cylces smiley
https://unhabitat.org/sites/default/files/2013/06/GRHS.2013.Case_.Study_.Bangkok.Thailand.pdf

See Bangkok - how it look - now.
so the PWC report released a couple of years ago didn't take considerations into account that you claim have existed for 15 years??

Do you not sometimes read your posts and conclude how utterly ridiculous they are?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:58am On Dec 23, 2022
Again after Mercer QOL - here we go with PWC.
People who work in PWC - are you and me.
You can make your prediction based on sound reasoning.

Who awarded PWCs the prediction honours - as far as I know they are bean counters.

They are not prominent economists - I would rather read something from even Economist Intelligence Unit - than PWC crap.

Prediction is hard - and so give it your own short - convince us how in 10yrs south africa will turn around it fortune - and how kenya will stop growing.

I have done a simple - projection myself.

jl115:
so the PWC report released a couple of years ago didn't take considerations into account that you claim have existed for 15 years??

Do you not sometimes read your posts and conclude how utterly ridiculous they are?
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