**EGBEMA THE SINGLE LARGEST IJAW CLAN OUT OF THE 86*
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*HISTORY OF EGBEMA KINGDOM*



The ancient Kingdom of Egbema is politically split into Edo and Delta States of Nigeria. Egbema Kingdom is bounded on the north by the Olodiama of Edo State and the Itsekiri of Delta State, west by the Arogbo Kingdom of Ondo State, east by Gbaramatu Kingdom and the Itsekiri of Delta State and South by the Ilaje of Ondo State and the Atlantic Ocean.

The Egbema people are the most likely Ijo sub-group to which the allegation of Ijo piracy on the Benin River could have been made. The only other sub-group with access to the Benin River are the Gbaramatu.

Egbema traditions, in fact, give indirect evidence of their predatory activities in the region of the Benin River. While they refer to the Oba of Benin as Ugbo Pere (lord of the hinter lands), the priest king of Egbema was Bini Pere (lord of Waters). Apart from cultural and other relations with other Ijo groups, therefore, Egbema history was affected by relations with the Benin Empire to the North, and with the Itsekiri to the south and with white traders in slaves on Benin river and its estuaries.

The dual relationship with the Edo and the Itsekiri is now reflected in the demarcation of the Egbema into the administrative areas of the Benin Division and Warri Division.

Origin and Settlement:
According to Pere G.O.E Tiemo, The AGADAGBA OF EGBEMA KINGDOM BINI PERE III (2006), there are nine traditional towns in Egbema known as Egbema Isenabiri, namely – Ofiniama, Ajakurama, Abere, Gbeuba, Bolou Jamagie/Abadigbene, Opuama/Polobubo, Ogbinbiri, Ogbudugbudu and Tu-Jamagie. In addition there are over Three hundred and fifty villages and hamlets. The people are fishermen, hunters, canoe builders, distillers of local gin and farmers.

Alagoa (1972) states that the earliest settlement of Ofiniama was founded by two traders Alopomini and Opiti from the Mein town of Gbekebo (patrilineal) in the Western Delta. They used to stop at the site to shoot birds (ofini) for food on their way to Ukuroama, Iko, Eko or Lagos.

The founders of Ajakurama, Gbeoba, Abere and Opuama/Polobubo first lived at Ofiniama for some time before they settled in their present site. The fifth settlement, Gbolukangan, was founded by settlers from Gbeoba. A new group of immigrants came from Operemo in the Western Delta and founded the settlement of Jamagie. The founders of Opuama, Ogbudugbudu and Ogbinbiri were also migrants from the Western Delta – apparently from Amatu in Iduwini ibe. The only unifying force in Egbema tradition was the common worship of Egbesu (Alagoa 1972:42-46).

Egbesu was the symbol of the unity of all Egbema and the Pere served as the human embodiment of that unity. But the very importance of Egbesu resulted in disputes over the control of the shrine and over the priesthood. Such disputes were avoided among sub-groups with traditions of common origin, where there was a recognised seniority among the towns, and within the town founded by the common ancestor, the lineage of that ancestor would be accorded right to the priesthood.

In Egbema, Ofiniama acquired de facto primacy as the most ancient settlement. But the founders of Ofiniama (Alopomini and Opiti) were never priests of Egbesu. Even the shrine, said to have been originally sited at Ofiniama is now at Ajakoroama.

According to the Pere Obula, the original location of Egbesu in Egbema was Bolou-Jamagie from where it was removed, first to Ogun-Ode at Ofiniama and finally to Ajakuroma. It was never “stolen” but carried to these places by agreement of all Egbema because of threats by first Olomu of the Itsekiri and later of his son Nana, to steal Egbesu and wage war against the Egbema.

The Egbema people collaborated in the installation of a Pere. Ofiniama put the sacred chalk on the new Pere (tori pu), the chief of Ogboinbiri served the wine (wuru tua) and the closest to the Pere. This need for a wide consensus must have helped to produce long periods without a Pere. It may be noted that the national god of the Mein (from whose territory Ofiniama was founded) is Mein Dirimegbeya, and not Egbesu, and that it is at Ekeremo of the Operemo from where Jamagie migrated that an Egbesu is to be found. These facts suggest that the Egbema may represent a case where political power and ritual authority were separated. That is, that although the temporal rulers of Ofiniama and its related settlements held political power, the source of spiritual authority appears to have come originally from elsewhere; although the ritual centre was eventually moved to Ajakoroama, an offshoot of Ofiniama (Alagoa 1972).

Trade and External Relations:
Egbema traditions give prominence to trade and contact with neighbouring groups and even the traditions of origin characterise the founders of Ofiniama as traders to Ukuroama or Iko. Ofiniama, like Arogbo, is situated on the modern route from the Western and Eastern Delta to Lagos. The traditions names two commodities used by the Ofiniama in this trade, namely camwood (Isele) and big canoes. Egbema traditions recorded at Ofiniama speak of early contact with Benin. Inabiri, son of Opiti, one of the founding fathers, was already a rich slave, owner when contact was establish with Benin. It was slaves of Inabiri called Okitia, who met some men from Udo.
According to Chief Pius Ikpi, the people of Ofunama through Inabiri made a live covenant with the people of Udo under a tree along the road at present day Arakhuan near UDO as confirmed by the Iyase of Udo in recent times.
That forms the basis for which Inabiri’s men made friends with the men of Udo, and soon Inabiri himself went by way of Udo to Benin where the reigning Oba gave him medicine that helped him get his first child. The road through Udo was closed, for some unknown reason, but a second route to Benin was opened in the life time of Inabiri. A third road through Ikusanghan in Olodiama became the normal route until the colonial period. This third route is to be identified with the road referred to by the records of European visitors.

The people of Egbema claim to have dealt directly with the White traders on the coast and to have supplied Edo traders with foreign goods (cannons, guns, matchets, coral beads). Egbema traditions refer to sailing ships bringing goods to them on the coast, but refer the crew men as dark white men (Dirimo Bekewei), thus implying mulattoes or people of mixed white and black ancestry, but apparently Sierra Leonians or Liberians.

Egbema claims to pre-eminence on the coast and on the Benin River support Itsekiri (and European) reference to Ijo interference with their trade in this area. Traditions of the Egbema in the Benin River area do, in fact, contain accounts of wars and treaties with Itsekiri settlements such as Jakpa, Itebu and others.

Chronology:
Egbema king lists and genealogies do not take their traditions beyond the early eighteen century, but elements in their traditions refer to earlier times.
The official accounts recorded by Alagoa (1972), for example, gave the name of the Oba who administered medicine to Inabiri as EKaladeran, the son of Ogiso. Benin tradition gives the name of the son of the last Ogiso ruler Benin variously as Ekaladerhan and Kaladerhan. These Benin traditions say Ekeladerhan never became Oba, but was exiled South to found the town of Ughoton or Gwato. In any case, the date of about 1170 at which the Ogiso dynasty gave place to the current dynasty is rather thesame period for the Ijo migrations to this corner of the Niger Delta. Other Egbema privately give the amen of the Oba who made medicine for Inabiri as Eware. If this name is identified as Oba Ewuare the Great, who was also a maker of charms and magic according to Benin tradition, it would give us a date for Egbema migrations in the late fifteenth century. It may be noted in addition, that the route to Benin through Ughoton (Kadaderhan’s town) was the last known of the Egbema, and since the Egbema claim to have supplied European goods to the Edo, this must refer to a period after the European factories at Ughoton were removed to locations in the Delta in the mid-seventeenth century. Accordingly, we may date Egebma settlement of the Western Delta limit between the end of the fifteenth and middle of the seventeenth century (Alagoa 1972).

Accounts of early European (Portuguese) trade with some Egbema villages like Arbo, Uloli and Boededoe (Benidodogha or Beninidodoa) provide a basis for claims to Egbema settlement prior to the seventeenth century. Contemporary historians have noted that there were several pirates attacks on Europeans in the course of their expeditions obviously owing to their relationship with the Itsekiris. One of such cases was exemplified in show of solidarity during the capture of Nana to the Gold coast immediately after the deportation of Oba Ovoranmwen from Benin through Gelegele waterside to Calabar. It is on records that the British colonialists took permission by way of right of passage on the water ways so as to avoid confrontations along the Benin river. The port at Binidodogha corrupted to read Binidodoe was under the command of Toni of Binidodo.

Extract from the book: “The Izon of the Niger Delta” Chapter 18 – by E.J Alagoa, E.A Kowei, B.J Owei, J.B Dunu and Chief Pius Ikpi.

Ijaw just keep creating fake kingdoms out of thin air and creating fake history to accompany their fake kingdoms.
You guys are crazy.

Ghostwon82:
Ijaw just keep creating fake kingdoms out of thin air and creating fake history to accompany their fake kingdoms.
You guys are crazy.

say no to ignorance

Captain8:
say no to ignorance

Ignorance is what fuels ijaw and their fake history and fake kingdoms. It is a historical fact that ijaw ancestors were pirates with very little land under their name.
Once Nigeria was created by the British, ijaw started claiming inexistante kingdoms, although you didn't start immediately, you first migrated into the land and some 60 years later, you started creating fake stories and claiming marginalisation and claiming kingdom here and there.

Ekpa

Ghostwon82:

Ignorance is what fuels ijaw and their fake history and fake kingdoms. It is a historical fact that ijaw ancestors were pirates with very little land under their name.
Once Nigeria was created by the British, ijaw started claiming inexistante kingdoms, although you didn't start immediately, you first migrated into the land and some 60 years later, you started creating fake stories and claiming marginalisation and claiming kingdom here and there.

you are the most ignorance person...there is no man in the niger delta that has not heard of Egbema kingdom

FrancescoFarino:
Ekpa

quiet and know history

AdakaBoro8:
you are the most ignorance person...there is no man in the niger delta that has not heard of Egbema kingdom

The problem is not if people have heard of "egbama kingdom", the problem is: since when is there such a thing as "egbama kingdom" ?

What you ijaws seem to ignore is that you can't create a kingdom within a kingdom. And kingdoms of Nigeria are kingdoms which existed before Nigeria was created by the British (by fighting wars against these kingdoms and forcing their land into a British colony). So you can't just wake up one day and claim "kingdom" !

The thing is, as I already said, your ijaw ancestors were pirates who had very little land under their name, most places in which your ancestors found themselves were foreign kingdoms and your ancestors were there as criminals, pirates killing and stealing and raping and being chased away by local armies.

Now that Nigeria exists you took the advantage of freely moving around, and taking refuge in other people's lands with the initial blessing and sympathy of the people of that land, but some 60 years later, you started claiming that land as yours and making up fake history and fake kingdoms.

Did I dumb it down enough for you ?

It is just the same as if Igbos who migrated to kano during the colonial era were suddenly claiming the town in which they reside to be an igbo kingdom and were making a fake history to back it.

Ijaws are the "fulani herdsmen"/bandits of the south. The people who think they can trust the ijaw will only wake up to regret it one day. All the people who have problems with the ijaw today are people who showed sympathy to the ijaw and allowed them in as tenants.
But the tradition of the ijaw is piracy, criminality, it's in their DNA. They can't live by any rules, nor can they give any respect. They are agents of chaos.

Ghostwon82:

The problem is not if people have heard of "egbama kingdom", the problem is: since when is there such a thing as "egbama kingdom" ?

What you ijaws seem to ignore is that you can't create a kingdom within a kingdom. And kingdoms of Nigeria are kingdoms which existed before Nigeria was created by the British (by fighting wars against these kingdoms and forcing their land into a British colony). So you can't just wake up one day and claim "kingdom" !

The thing is, as I already said, your ijaw ancestors were pirates who had very little land under their name, most places in which your ancestors found themselves were foreign kingdoms and your ancestors were there as criminals, pirates killing and stealing and raping and being chased away by local armies.

Now that Nigeria exists you took the advantage of freely moving around, and taking refuge in other people's lands with the initial blessing and sympathy of the people of that land, but some 60 years later, you started claiming that land as yours and making up fake history and fake kingdoms.

Did I dumb it down enough for you ?

It is just the same as if Igbos who migrated to kano during the colonial era were suddenly claiming the town in which they reside to be an igbo kingdom and were making a fake history to back it.

This your write-up just shows the level of your ignorance.

Egbema is an ancient kingdom..not just an ancient kingdom, but mighty kingdom that has fight in every Ijaw and niger delta struggle right from slave capturing and resisting capturing.

Just inquire of the the kingdom Egbema.

Just ask any Ijaw person about the Egbema kingdom, they will tell you.

even government has bombarded the Egbema kingdom for about occasions..

Egbema is the largest kingdom in Ijaw Nation.

Egbema is the largest kingdom in Ijaw land.

Egbema is a father Kingdom that even gave birth to the Egbema in imo and rivers state.

do you think Egbema is a today kingdom?

The Egbema kingdom predate the entire Igbo ethnicity..
Egbema kingdom predate the benin kingdom.

Egbema kingdom has gave birth many kingdoms, such as the Egbema of river and imo state.

Egbema kingdom population is more than the population of the benin kingdom.

Ask itshekiri people, the will tell you about Egbema...

Captain8:
This your write-up just shows the level of your ignorance.

Egbema is an ancient kingdom..not just an ancient kingdom, but mighty kingdom that has fight in every Ijaw and niger delta struggle right from slave capturing and resisting capturing.

Just inquire of the the kingdom Egbema.

Just ask any Ijaw person about the Egbema kingdom, they will tell you.

even government has bombarded the Egbema kingdom for about occasions..

Egbema is the largest kingdom in Ijaw Nation.

Egbema is the largest kingdom in Ijaw land.

Egbema is a father Kingdom that even gave birth to the Egbema in imo and rivers state.

do you think Egbema is a today kingdom?

The Egbema kingdom predate the entire Igbo ethnicity..
Egbema kingdom predate the benin kingdom.

Egbema kingdom has gave birth many kingdoms, such as the Egbema of river and imo state.

Egbema kingdom population is more than the population of the benin kingdom.

Ask itshekiri people, the will tell you about Egbema...

Like many Nigerians you are all talk and no substance.
1) prove what you say rather than shouting it louder as if the level of your voice would prove your claims
2) where is any precolonial map showing "egbama kingdom" ?
3) where is any precolonial text showing "egbama kingdom" ?

You guys believe you can just create "history" out of thin air and everybody is fooled ? I'm not a secondary school drop out!

Precolonial map of Benin Kingdom.
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin%20royaume?rk=107296;4

All of Edo state is converted by it.
Where is "egbama kingdom" ?

Soon we will be talking about pinocchio kingdom, an ancient magical ijo kingdom in Edo-state.

Ghostwon82:
Ijaws are the "fulani herdsmen"/bandits of the south. The people who think they can trust the ijaw will only wake up to regret it one day. All the people who have problems with the ijaw today are people who showed sympathy to the ijaw and allowed them in as tenants.
But the tradition of the ijaw is piracy, criminality, it's in their DNA. They can't live by any rules, nor can they give any respect. They are agents of chaos.

Ijaw and Yoruba are the two oldest ethnicity in this southern part of nigeria..... every other ethnicity met this two ethnicities here..

Ijaws are not piracy people, but Ijaws don't accept oppression.
Ijaws are just freedom fighters and warriors, not pirates or cultists like your people.

Ijaws are the most accommodating people in the world, reason you see Fulanis and hausas doing businesses cow rearing in their communities without even paying for house rents..

Tell me, which ethnicity in this world that will give out beautiful houses to strangers without demanding for rentage? Only Ijaw does.
So we are not violence people, what we hate is oppression or taking advantage of us.

Yes, we Ijaws are not nigerians, so we can never bow to any nigeria constitution..because Ijaw and nigeria nor be mate... The name Name Izon or Ijon has been in far existence before the emergence of nigeria... nigerians should be the ones to bow to the Ijaw constitution and not other.

That's why you always the saying, "(Ijo nor know road to court)". Yes we Ijaws don't do court case with people concerning land..a land that has been far existing before court cannot be decided by court..

we are not Fulanis of south, get this into your head

Captain8:
Ijaw and Yoruba are the two oldest ethnicity in this southern part of nigeria..... every other ethnicity met this two ethnicities here..

Ijaws are not piracy people, but Ijaws don't accept oppression.
Ijaws are just freedom fighters and warriors, not pirates or cultists like your people.

Ijaws are the most accommodating people in the world, reason you see Fulanis and hausas doing businesses cow rearing in their communities without even paying for house rents..

Tell me, which ethnicity in this world that will give out beautiful houses to strangers without demanding for rentage? Only Ijaw does.
So we are not violence people, what we hate is oppression or taking advantage of us.

Yes, we Ijaws are not nigerians, so we can never bow to any nigeria constitution..because Ijaw and nigeria nor be mate... The name Name Izon or Ijon has been in far existence before the emergence of nigeria... nigerians should be the ones to bow to the Ijaw constitution and not other.

That's why you always the saying, "(Ijo nor know road to court)". Yes we Ijaws don't do court case with people concerning land..a land that has been far existing before court cannot be decided by court..

we are not Fulanis of south, get this into your head

Your ancestors were litteraly called "ouyo pirates" !
You don't even know your history.
Here you are confirming that your people do not abide by the law... You are just confirming my claim that you guys have criminality in your DNA.
Like every criminal, you believe your loot is rightfully yours and f*ck the courts. That is the way criminals think. The criminal sees himself as a "freedom fighter" while he is just claiming what doesn't belong to him. Terrorists have the exact same way of thinking.

Ghostwon82:
Precolonial map of Benin Kingdom.
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin%20royaume?rk=107296;4

All of Edo state is converted by it.
Where is "egbama kingdom" ?

this is just an oba self made map. Go check the the original map of edo... Egbema kingdom is in delta and edo. Because state creation divide the kingdom into two states.
Egbema in delta, share warri north LGA with the itshekiri and share ovia south with other Ijaws in edo state..

Captain8:
this is just an oba self made map. Go check the the original map of edo... Egbema kingdom is in delta and edo. Because state creation divide the kingdom into two states.
Egbema in delta, share warri north LGA with the itshekiri and share ovia south with other Ijaws in edo state..

Now you are showing how daft you are, the map in question was made hundreds of years ago by European explorers to our region.
In case you don't know, Edo-state was created in the 1990's, not in the precolonial era.

Ghostwon82:

Your ancestors were litteraly called "ouyo pirates" !
You don't even know your history.
Here you are confirming that your people do not abide by the law... You are just confirming my claim that you guys have criminality I. Your DNA

we have our own rules that guide us.
And that our rules are just like the rules of israel given to them by Jehovah.

If we do not have rules, we would have been killing everybody we see in nigeria, since we have the power, but no, we are been bind by a law of not taking someone's life except in self defense or war..

We have been giving the rule to love whoever we see like ourselves..
That's why we don't collect land fees or house fees from urhobo people farming in our lands,,housas staying in our houses,,,, Fulanis using our forests,,,ibos businessing in our places..

but ignorant ones like you who has never stay with Ijaw will mistaken us for violence people or pirates just because we defend ourselves.

Ghostwon82:

Now you are showing how daft you are, the map in question was made hundreds of years ago by European explorers to our region.
In case you don't know, Edo-state was created in the 1990's, not in the precolonial era.

edo state was created in 1990, is dumb talk.

What you don't know is that, the very land you benins are occupying belong to the Olodiama Okumu kingdom of Ijaw..but we live it for you to stay freely... You people were chased out of ile ife by the Yorubas, but the Ijaw accommodate you.... Now, you here disrespecting them.. ingrates

Captain8:
we have our own rules that guide us.

Every criminal and terrorist has his own rules, that is what makes him a criminal, he refuses to follow common rules, he believes he is above the rules which all others have to follow.
You have the same mindset as a terrorist and you don't even realize it because you are not very smart.
What if everybody decided he had his own rules and didn't need to follow common law ? What type of society would that be ?

Captain8:
edo state was created in 1990, is dumb talk.

What you don't know is that, the very land you benins are occupying belong to the Olodiama Okumu kingdom of Ijaw..but we live it for you to stay freely... You people were chased out of ile ife by the Yorubas, but the Ijaw accommodate you.... Now, you here disrespecting them.. ingrates

You really need some education, that Ife story is a fairytale, I know you ijo have been capitalising on it to claim Benin land.
But I have brought a precolonial map in front of your eyes and it establishes Benin kingdom/empire, and Edo-state is a part of it.
Show me a precolonial map or text which mentions "egbama kingdom" ?
Instead you remove your eyes from evidence and look for safety in fairytales.

Your daftness is beyond repair.
Like every terrorist, you believe other people's lands actually belong to you and the people need your permission to be on their land. I can't make this up.
Nobody will ever accommodate ijo again, you guys just keep exposing your selves.

There is no Ijaw tribe outside Bayelsa state.

Ghostwon82:

Every criminal and terrorist has his own rules, that is what makes him a criminal, he refuses to follow common rules, he believes he is above the rules which all others have to follow.
You have have the same mindset as a terrorist and you don't even realize it because you are not very smart.
What if everybody decided he had his own rules and didn't need to follow common law ? What type of society would that be ?

such area will be nice and peaceful..
Let me burst your little brain.......the people trapped in this nizooria or nigeria were once peaceful.....they stay together, trade together with their respective rules...there was never bloodshed.....but it changes when white came and create an artificial nation for us...

Despite our respective rules, Ijaws, Yorubas, Ibos, Benins etc were trading together in peace, lovin one another... No sane person will see sense in nigeria

Ojiofor:
There is no Ijaw tribe outside Bayelsa state.

what did you smoke?

Captain8:

Despite our respective rules, Ijaws, Yorubas, Ibos, Benins etc were trading together in peace, lovin one another... No sane person will see sense in nigeria

You seem like you are on drugs, your ancestors were pirates ! I am not saying this to insult you, it is a fact your ancestors were called "ouyo pirates", you guys were never in peace with anybody, you were criminals ! And you still are !

Ghostwon82:

You really need some education, that Ife story is a fairytale, I know you ijo have been capitalising on it to claim Benin land.
But I have brought a precolonial map in front of your eyes and it establishes Benin kingdom/empire, and Edo-state is a part of it.
Show me a precolonial map or text which mentions "egbama kingdom" ?
Instead you remove your eyes from evidence and look for safety in fairytales.

Your daftness is beyond repair.
Like every terrorist, you believe other people's lands actually belong to you and the people need your permission to be on their land. I can't make this up.
Nobody will ever accommodate ijo again, you guys just keep exposing your selves.

no one has ever accommodate Ijaw, but Ijaws are the ones accommodating people like father christmas....

And 2nd, we are not terroristz, we are only freedom fighters

Ghostwon82:

You seem like you are on drugs, your ancestors were pirates ! I am not saying this to insult you, it is a fact your ancestors were called "ouyo pirates", you guys were never in peace with anybody, you were criminals ! And you still are !

look at cultist talking.....benin people are the reason the word cultist came about... You cultist

Captain8:

And 2nd, we are not terroristz, we are only freedom fighters

No terrorist considers himself a terrorist, it is the actions of the terrorists which imply he is a terrorist. You guys are clearly pirates with the mindset of terrorists and the lack of education that goes with it. You are basically the same as a guy in the street who sees a beautiful house and claims the house belongs to him and the owner inside is there because you let him.
Keep talking, let everybody in Nigeria finally understand what ijo are all about. You guys make "Fulani herdsmen"/bandits look like boy scouts.

Ojiofor:
There is no Ijaw tribe outside Bayelsa state.

Zombie, there are Ijaw in Ondo, Edo, Delta, Rivers, Bayelsa and AkwaIbom States.

Captain8:
look at cultist talking.....benin people are the reason the word cultist came about... You cultist

Actually cultism was invented by the Yoruba, not by us.
And cultists are actually a very few people in our society whom we are dealing with by helping law enforcement, on the other hand you ijo are all pirates, it is your ancestral tradition. Your mindset is wired like that. Criminality is your religion.

Ghostwon82:

No terrorist considers himself a terrorist, it is the actions of the terrorists which imply he is a terrorist. You guys are clearly pirates with the mindset of terrorists and the lack of education that goes with it. You are basically the same as a guy in the street who sees a beautiful house and claims the house belongs to him and the owner inside is there because you let him.
Keep talking, let everybody in Nigeria finally understand what ijo are all about. You guys make "Fulani herdsmen"/bandits look like boy scouts.

fool, fulanis have been attackin and killin your edo people for years now, and your people you taggin terrorist are the Ijaws who have never kille a fly in your land... Accordin to your understandin those fulanis are the saint...

AdakaBoro8:
fool, fulanis have been attackin and killin your edo people for years now, and your people you taggin terrorist are the Ijaws who have never kille a fly in your land... Accordin to your understandin those fulanis are the saint...

There have been "Fulani herdsmen" attacks in our lands, and there have been ijo attacks in our lands that includes Gele Gele. The f"ulanis herdsmen" have been removed , the ijo are still on our lands. I guess you think you are in competition with each other and I am supposed to speak kindly of you because you kill less according to you.
Why am I even talking to you uneducated criminal minded people ?