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Just30:
he's Kenyan

those guys have

rvp2018:
Russia went to war because Ukraine wanted to Join EU and eventually NATO.
They think Ukraine is their colony.

This is the genesis of Ukraine-Russia war since 2003/4 Orange revolution.

Ukrainians want to align more with Western Europe for the obvious economic benefits like other former USSR countries
But Russia see that as sacrilegious.

Ukraine win this war because they are motivated enough to fight for their better future as independent country.

Russia was okay with Ukraine deciding to join EU but will not allow it into NATO and that is what this war is about.

Russia is not even interested in taking Ukrainian lands, they are saying since Ukraine can't live harmoniously with ethnic Russians in the East who control Ukraine entire economy, they should give them semi autonomy so those guys can live on their own to some extent.

Zelensky himself run on the ticket of ending the war and giving eastern Ukraine some form of autonomy then azoz and NATO threaten to take him out If he does it.

This war did not start today, it is a war that has been brewing from 1994 when the Americans set out to make Ukraine a torn in the flesh of Russia. But currently it has rather become a torn in the flesh of Europe.

rvp2018:
Dont dream of ever educating me on any subject.

I don't dream but I have to educate you everyday because you're really dumb on all things here

Do you even know Ukraine?

ariesbull:
those guys have

them no get sense

Let the credit rating know this information mad cow. They should make kenya junk and Ghana B. Now Ghana is D.

Just30:


Ghana debt has reduced further to just 38 billion dollars and Ghana payment for next year is only 3.5 billion dollars.

Kenya debt is 80 billion dollars and you need 12 billion next year to pay and another 12 billion dollars to finance the hole in your budget.
At this point no one is willing to have Kenya money... Even your T-bills are under subscribed

Ukraine became independent on 1991 but bitter Russian didnt get the memo.
Now they are luckly - they are motivated and have somone picking their war taps.
Russia have no option except accept reality that NATO will now encircle Russia.
NATO has not sought to expand.
It countries that want to be part of it as they see Putin aggression coming their way.

The alure of US and Western Europe democracy with high standard of living compared to Russia dictatorship & 3rd world QOL.

Russia cannot win until it reform and make people want to be part of it because it's progressive.

Just30:
Russia was okay with Ukraine deciding to join EU but will not allow it into NATO and that is what this war is about.

Russia is not even interested in taking Ukrainian lands, they are saying since Ukraine can't live harmoniously with ethnic Russians in the East who control Ukraine entire economy, they should give them semi autonomy so those guys can live on their own to some extent.

Zelensky himself run on the ticket of ending the war and giving eastern Ukraine some form of autonomy then azoz and NATO threaten to take him out If he does it.

This war did not start today, it is a war that has been brewing from 1994 when the Americans set out to make Ukraine a torn in the flesh of Russia. But currently it has rather become a torn in the flesh of Europe.

rvp2018:
Let the credit rating know this information mad cow. They should make kenya junk and Ghana B. Now Ghana is D.

Ghana credit rating currently has nothing to do with it debt ... It's mostly politics base on Ghana not willing to be blackmailed by EU ESG nonsense.

As for Kenya you're only prime for more default

rvp2018:
Ukraine became independent on 1991 but bitter Russian didnt get the memo.
Now they are luckly - they are motivated and have somone picking their war taps.
Russia have no option except accept reality that NATO will now encircle Russia.
NATO has not sought to expand.
It countries that want to be part of it as they see Putin aggression coming their way.

The alure of US and Western Europe democracy with high standard of living compared to Russia dictatorship & 3rd world QOL.

Russia cannot win until it reform and make people want to be part of it because it's progressive.

NATO will not be allowed to have Ukraine just like Russia prevented NATO from having Georgia...
The Russians drew the line there and as smart as the Georgians were, they accepted neutrality to preserve their beautiful country .
The comedian in Ukrainian foolishly got that beautiful country destroyed.

Russia is even more free a society than the US is. So I'm wondering what you mean by Russia is dictatorial when the US is more dictatorial than Russia.

Russia does not need people to be part of it, they are okay with what they have but will not tolerate anyone jeopardizing their security by allowing the US and it Monroe doctrine closer to it borders.

Russia was not the aggressor but the US

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rvp20182:
I will try to write a simple version..no wonder you have a problem with hunter...btw we are in agreement.. Russia who I initially backed are fuckefd

No wonder you always have a problem with the Ghanaian. If we are in agreement then what are you saying again? You made it sound like Russia could easily win the war by taking Kiev. That's the idea I'm laughing at.

You don't seem to know much about international affairs. For you to understand why Russia could never defeat Ukraine easily you need to go far back in time or at least to 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea.

The Ghanian is slightly worse than you.
So why was Putin going to war if he couldn't defeat Ukraine.
Putin went for Kiev but failed.
That can only mean he underestimated Kiev.
And he has been running since then.
And soon NATO went in - and now Putin Russia is totally scre.wed.
That is all see now.

Obaaderemi2:
No wonder you always have a problem with the Ghanaian. If we are in agreement then what are you saying again? You made it sound like Russia could easily win the war by taking Kiev. That's the idea I'm laughing at.

You don't seem to know much about international affairs. For you to understand why Russia could never defeat Ukraine easily you need to go far back in time or at least to 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea.

Yes, it so democratic Putin has ruled it for 30yrs with ironfist.
Few want to be part of Russia.
People are queing in million to go USA and EU.
Russia gdp is barely 12K usd....US now is almost 70K.
That mean average person in US - is almost 7 times better.
The same for most of Western Europe.
That prosperity is what makes Ghanians trek through the Sahara and swim across the mediterrian
Ukraine wants to similarly do so...trade and work with richer nations.
Russia wants to keep them in their poverty and dictatorship.
Now they are fighting for their right to join EU/NATO and succeeding.

Just30:
NATO will not be allowed to have Ukraine just like Russia prevented NATO from having Georgia...
The Russians drew the line there and as smart as the Georgians were, they accepted neutrality to preserve their beautiful country .
The comedian in Ukrainian foolishly got that beautiful country destroyed.

Russia is even more free a society than the US is. So I'm wondering what you mean by Russia is dictatorial when the US is more dictatorial than Russia.

Russia does not need people to be part of it, they are okay with what they have but will not tolerate anyone jeopardizing their security by allowing the US and it Monroe doctrine closer to it borders.

Russia was not the aggressor but the US

rvp2018:
Yes, it so democratic Putin has ruled it for 30yrs with ironfist.
Few want to be part of Russia.
People are queing in million to go USA and EU.
Russia gdp is barely 12K usd....US now is almost 70K.
That mean average person in US - is almost 7 times better.
The same for most of Western Europe.
That prosperity is what makes Ghanians trek through the Sahara and swim across the mediterrian
Ukraine wants to similarly do so...trade and work with richer nations.
Russia wants to keep them in their poverty and dictatorship.
Now they are fighting for their right to join EU/NATO and succeeding.

And since when was democracy reduced to how long a person govern?
All the Russians want to be part of Russia ... No one is queing in their millions to go to EU or US, Russians enjoy going on tours in Europe especially during the summer.

Yes 16k of a real economy and not a phantom debt and financial instrument economy. This is the reason why none of the US sanctions has had an effect on the Russian economy. They under estimated the size and capability of the Russian economy.

Ukraine was already trading and working with Europe but the Europeans did not want them or their goods hence Russia was their biggest trading partner because only the Russians wanted whatever they had to trade.
Russia even did not want to invest in their Agriculture sector just so they can have a Market for Ukrainian goods. But after 2014, Russia massively invested in it Agriculture sector and today they are almost self sufficient.

On average, the Russian economy/productivity is comparable to that of Germany. You don't seem to know anything about Russia but for the nonsense that the west feeds you

When are Ghanian flocking to Russia.

Just30:
And since when was democracy reduced to how long a person govern?
All the Russians want to be part of Russia ... No one is queing in their millions to go to EU or US, Russians enjoy going on tours in Europe especially during the summer.

Yes 16k of a real economy and not a phantom debt and financial instrument economy. This is the reason why none of the US sanctions has had an effect on the Russian economy. They under estimated the size and capability of the Russian economy.

Ukraine was already trading and working with Europe but the Europeans did not want them or their goods hence Russia was their biggest trading partner because only the Russians wanted whatever they had to trade.
Russia even did not want to invest in their Agriculture sector just so they can have a Market for Ukrainian goods. But after 2014, Russia massively invested in it Agriculture sector and today they are almost self sufficient.

On average, the Russian economy/productivity is comparable to that of Germany. You don't seem to know anything about Russia but for the nonsense that the west feeds you

rvp2018:
When are Ghanian flocking to Russia.

if you're referring to Ghanaian students then the answer is never .. they need to participate in globe changing R & D.
It's not our fault that Kenyans can't afford such kind of education.
Start fixing your economy

When are Kenyans going to stop slaving themselves in Arabia

rvp2018:
The Ghanian is slightly worse than you.
So why was Putin going to war if he couldn't defeat Ukraine.
Putin went for Kiev but failed.
That can only mean he underestimated Kiev.
And he has been running since then.
And soon NATO went in - and now Putin Russia is totally scre.wed.
That is all see now.

Isn't this exactly what I said?
You are worse than the Boer.

He underestimated Ukraine and the powers funding it. If it was just Ukraine vs Russia, Ukraine would have become dust by now.

Now we are in agreement.
I also initially thought Ukraine was fu.cked
I imagine Russia forces would knock Kiev out in morning, Putin would have his lunch there and appoint a governor in the evening.
But I am suprised by how weak and disorganized Russia army really is.
It appears not have made much progress from USSR era.
Their underbelly is now exposed.

Obaaderemi2:
Isn't this exactly what I said?
You are worse than the Boer.

He underestimated Ukraine and the powers funding it. If it was just Ukraine vs Russia, Ukraine would have become dust by now.

Apart from Belarus (under dictatorship) - all Soviet Union countries - want out 3rd world Russia - so they can join NATO.
Your fellow mad man Putin is down and out.
Some military general should put him out of his misery.
He miscalculated big time.
And someone should also yank the internet from you.
And keep you in mental asylum.

Just30:
if you're referring to Ghanaian students then the answer is never .. they need to participate in globe changing R & D.
It's not our fault that Kenyans can't afford such kind of education.
Start fixing your economy

When are Kenyans going to stop slaving themselves in Arabia

rvp2018:
Apart from Belarus (under dictatorship) - all Soviet Union countries - want out 3rd world Russia - so they can join NATO.
Your fellow mad man Putin is down and out.
Some military general should put him out of his misery.
He miscalculated big time.
And someone should also yank the internet from you.
And keep you in mental asylum.

Fortunately the Russians love Putin but the Ukrainians are rather threatening Zelensky that he and his generals should hope that the Russians get to Kiev and put them in prison before they the Ukrainians get there.

Your lunacy knows no bounds .. Ukraine has one future and it was with Russia as their largest trading partner and now they have none... Russia will just pummel their beautiful country and take care of the autonomous Regions which are ethnic Russians and leave the rest for the wolves to share.

Putin is in a better economy strong and a lot self sufficient, that is capable of producing anything they want.
That what an economy is

Just30:
them no get sense

very neocolonialistic in thinking....backward lots

Just30:
if you're referring to Ghanaian students then the answer is never .. they need to participate in globe changing R & D.
It's not our fault that Kenyans can't afford such kind of education.
Start fixing your economy

When are Kenyans going to stop slaving themselves in Arabia

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rvp2018:
Now we are in agreement.
I also initially thought Ukraine was fu.cked
I imagine Russia forces would knock Kiev out in morning, Putin would have his lunch there and appoint a governor in the evening.
But I am suprised by how weak and disorganized Russia army really is.
It appears not have made much progress from USSR era.
Their underbelly is now exposed.

It's bad. The fire Putin started in Ukraine is right now moving close to his own home.

Obaaderemi2:
It's bad. The fire Putin started in Ukraine is right now moving close to his own home.

The myth that Russia was at most a military superpower has been shattered.Now they are back to the exact spot they were before the war... behind their own eastern rebels trenches..the rebels they started financing in 2014.At this point Putin stay in power is no longer tenable.His own military will finish him and negotiate.Russia will pay heavy reparations to repair Ukraine and will be lucky to keep Crimea

rvp20182:
The myth that Russia was at most a military superpower has been shattered.Now they are back to the exact spot they were before the war... behind their own eastern rebels trenches..the rebels they started financing in 2014.At this point Putin stay in power is no longer tenable.His own military will finish him and negotiate.Russia will pay heavy reparations to repair Ukraine and will be lucky to keep Crimea

You reading it wrong

Where is it wrong.
2014 - Pro-Western/EU/NATO leadership is elected. Defeated Pro-Russia leaders run to Russia.
2014 - Ukraine civil war starts in Russian speaking Crimea, Donbas and Luhansk.
2014 - Russia invade Ukraine & annex Crimea. Western nations start sanction Russia.

Btw 2014/2022 - Civil war ensures btw seperatist Pro-Russia forces in Donbas & Luhansk & Ukraine military.

2022 - Russia invade Ukraine with aim of overthrowing Ukraine gov & returning pro-Russia back to power.

2022 Feb - Russia forces invade from North, South and East - commandos land in Kiev airport - and tanks are deployed to outskirts of KIEV.

2022 Summer - Russia forces are beaten - driven from outskrits of Kiev and whole of the north - towards the East and South.

2022 Nov - Last month Russia loses the only major city - of 600k people - they had won - Kherson - and retreat further back in Donbas and Luhasnk.

Now - as we speak - Russian are battling exactly where Ukraine seperatist rebels were battling Ukraine army,

In short - we are back to the stalemate that had endured from 2014-2022.

And with major changes
1) Russia superpowerness has been exposed to be a fraud. They took Crimea without firing a shot in 2014 - because Ukraine feared them. Now in 2022 Russian ability to attack Ukraine has been degraded - and they are digging trenches like rebels. Ukraine no longer fear Putin or Russia - ever since they gave them hiding in KIEV and got them running. Big mistake for Putin.

2) Ukraine that for long time have been prevented from arming - as deal btw Russia and NATO - can now arm themselves - and are receiving tonnes of weapons from NATO allies - mostly the USA. Russia attacking Ukraine in 2014 gave Ukraine the right to arm themselves and build their defense...now they can even get nuclear if they want.

The future.
1) Stalemate in East and South Ukraine continues - as Ukraine forces battle Russia - if Russia can afford to keep the war going. It highly likely they wont be able to afford to fight Ukraine backed by NATO. The sanctions will continue being added.

2) Russia overthrow Putin and initiate talks on Donbas/Luhasnk - and agree to pay for damages they have caused. Like Germany are yet to finishing paying for WWII - Russian maybe need 50yrs to rebuild Ukraine and pay the damages they caused throwing bombs carelessly & aimlessly while mostly drunk on vodka.

In both scenarios - Russia is finished as super-power. USA and her NATO allies now can focus on poor CHINA. Russia capitulation is bad news for global politics - and we now go back to another post 1990 USSR collapse - USA will run the world. Putin it appears had used his charisma to project power on a country that is rotten and drunk like Russia and this war has exposed them to ridicule and defeat.

AfriqueDuZuid:
You reading it wrong

rvp20182:
The myth that Russia was at most a military superpower has been shattered.Now they are back to the exact spot they were before the war... behind their own eastern rebels trenches..the rebels they started financing in 2014.At this point Putin stay in power is no longer tenable.His own military will finish him and negotiate.Russia will pay heavy reparations to repair Ukraine and will be lucky to keep Crimea

keep playing with human life

Ukraine sowed the wind and are now reaping the whirlwind.

The Russians are coming for them and they know it, that's why they are asking for negotiation by February.


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rvp2018:
Where is it wrong.
2014 - Pro-Western/EU/NATO leadership is elected. Defeated Pro-Russia leaders run to Russia.
2014 - Ukraine civil war starts in Russian speaking Crimea, Donbas and Luhansk.
2014 - Russia invade Ukraine & annex Crimea. Western nations start sanction Russia.

Btw 2014/2022 - Civil war ensures btw seperatist Pro-Russia forces in Donbas & Luhansk & Ukraine military.

2022 - Russia invade Ukraine with aim of overthrowing Ukraine gov & returning pro-Russia back to power.

2022 Feb - Russia forces invade from North, South and East - commandos land in Kiev airport - and tanks are deployed to outskirts of KIEV.

2022 Summer - Russia forces are beaten - driven from outskrits of Kiev and whole of the north - towards the East and South.

2022 Nov - Last month Russia loses the only major city - of 600k people - they had won - Kherson - and retreat further back in Donbas and Luhasnk.

Now - as we speak - Russian are battling exactly where Ukraine seperatist rebels were battling Ukraine army,

In short - we are back to the stalemate that had endured from 2014-2022.

And with major changes
1) Russia superpowerness has been exposed to be a fraud. They took Crimea without firing a shot in 2014 - because Ukraine feared them. Now in 2022 Russian ability to attack Ukraine has been degraded - and they are digging trenches like rebels. Ukraine no longer fear Putin or Russia - ever since they gave them hiding in KIEV and got them running. Big mistake for Putin.

2) Ukraine that for long time have been prevented from arming - as deal btw Russia and NATO - can now arm themselves - and are receiving tonnes of weapons from NATO allies - mostly the USA. Russia attacking Ukraine in 2014 gave Ukraine the right to arm themselves and build their defense...now they can even get nuclear if they want.

The future.
1) Stalemate in East and South Ukraine continues - as Ukraine forces battle Russia - if Russia can afford to keep the war going. It highly likely they wont be able to afford to fight Ukraine backed by NATO. The sanctions will continue being added.

2) Russia overthrow Putin and initiate talks on Donbas/Luhasnk - and agree to pay for damages they have caused. Like Germany are yet to finishing paying for WWII - Russian maybe need 50yrs to rebuild Ukraine and pay the damages they caused throwing bombs carelessly & aimlessly while mostly drunk on vodka.

In both scenarios - Russia is finished as super-power. USA and her NATO allies now can focus on poor CHINA. Russia capitulation is bad news for global politics - and we now go back to another post 1990 USSR collapse - USA will run the world. Putin it appears had used his charisma to project power on a country that is rotten and drunk like Russia and this war has exposed them to ridicule and defeat.

post Ukrainian war settlement will look like this..

Russia will make LPR, DPR, Zaporizhzhia, Kharkov, Kherson and their last coastal town Odessa independent republics.
Crimea will be none negotiable.

Then Russia will guarantee their security together with the US ... Just like it was before.

Ukraine will accept neutrality and that will end the NATO nonsense

rvp2018:
Where is it wrong.
2014 - Pro-Western/EU/NATO leadership is elected. Defeated Pro-Russia leaders run to Russia.
2014 - Ukraine civil war starts in Russian speaking Crimea, Donbas and Luhansk.
2014 - Russia invade Ukraine & annex Crimea. Western nations start sanction Russia.

Btw 2014/2022 - Civil war ensures btw seperatist Pro-Russia forces in Donbas & Luhansk & Ukraine military.

2022 - Russia invade Ukraine with aim of overthrowing Ukraine gov & returning pro-Russia back to power.

2022 Feb - Russia forces invade from North, South and East - commandos land in Kiev airport - and tanks are deployed to outskirts of KIEV.

2022 Summer - Russia forces are beaten - driven from outskrits of Kiev and whole of the north - towards the East and South.

2022 Nov - Last month Russia loses the only major city - of 600k people - they had won - Kherson - and retreat further back in Donbas and Luhasnk.

Now - as we speak - Russian are battling exactly where Ukraine seperatist rebels were battling Ukraine army,

In short - we are back to the stalemate that had endured from 2014-2022.

And with major changes
1) Russia superpowerness has been exposed to be a fraud. They took Crimea without firing a shot in 2014 - because Ukraine feared them. Now in 2022 Russian ability to attack Ukraine has been degraded - and they are digging trenches like rebels. Ukraine no longer fear Putin or Russia - ever since they gave them hiding in KIEV and got them running. Big mistake for Putin.

2) Ukraine that for long time have been prevented from arming - as deal btw Russia and NATO - can now arm themselves - and are receiving tonnes of weapons from NATO allies - mostly the USA. Russia attacking Ukraine in 2014 gave Ukraine the right to arm themselves and build their defense...now they can even get nuclear if they want.

The future.
1) Stalemate in East and South Ukraine continues - as Ukraine forces battle Russia - if Russia can afford to keep the war going. It highly likely they wont be able to afford to fight Ukraine backed by NATO. The sanctions will continue being added.

2) Russia overthrow Putin and initiate talks on Donbas/Luhasnk - and agree to pay for damages they have caused. Like Germany are yet to finishing paying for WWII - Russian maybe need 50yrs to rebuild Ukraine and pay the damages they caused throwing bombs carelessly & aimlessly while mostly drunk on vodka.

In both scenarios - Russia is finished as super-power. USA and her NATO allies now can focus on poor CHINA. Russia capitulation is bad news for global politics - and we now go back to another post 1990 USSR collapse - USA will run the world. Putin it appears had used his charisma to project power on a country that is rotten and drunk like Russia and this war has exposed them to ridicule and defeat.

Russia never wanted to throw over ukrain government, they wanted to liberate the Dombas region, which is predominantly Russian, culture, language, etc

Ukraine government was trying to annailate the Russian culture in the Dombas region, leadership of the region asked help from Russia. That is why the war is in the Eastnor the entire country.

Russia was never about distroying Ukraine, as those people living in Dombas are Russian. All that needs to happen is to give people in that region a chance to decide their own fate.... But the west wanna settle a score with Russia using a puppet president from Ukraine