₦airaland Forum

Ruggedniggaone:
Structure is necessary to win presidential election in Nigeria and that's where pdp and apc have advantage over labour party, only pdp and apc have ward party chairmen in every nook and cranny of Nigeria,Nigeria presidential candidate can not be everywhere but their Structure will reach every villages and towns to campaign for there candidates.go to every villages both in the south and northern part you will realise that only pdp and apc are known there.i went to one village in ondo in 2019 it located deep inside the forest but they still have pdp and apc party chairman and ward excos,Atiku and Tinubu may not these places but those ward excos will work for the victory of their party in those villages so if you don't have that how do you plan to reach those area? they have no light, no network or any road it was like 3 hours journey to the highway,do you think those people will leave pdp or apc presidential candidate to votes for someone they never heard or known his party before? the answer is No. so only structure can win you general election don't be surprised that some villages do not know obi or Labour party in the south east and they won't vote for Peter obi.

We have debunked this your lie many months ago. There is no village or rural area in this Naija that will tell you that they have not heard of Peter Obi. Anyway I can't wait for February to come walahi.

tolue42:
Is it only LP that'll use BVAS Will BVAS makes LP votes in the whole of southeast more than APC votes in South West and NORTH Una no get the population.. larger percent of South South will still vote APC.
You guys may be ignorance of what BVAS is all about self..

You're bragging of NORTH when two popular northern candidates are on the ballot.

1Dray:
You're bragging of NORTH when two popular northern candidates are on the ballot.

NORTH don't have problem voting for Asiwaju, why not focus on Obi who doesn't have ally in the North.

tolue42:
NORTH don't have problem voting for Asiwaju, why not focus on Obi who doesn't have ally in the North.

Yeah, but you sincerely believe they will abandon their brothers to vote Tinubu? My question is, why are you bragging with northern votes that will be splitted in bits?

tolue42:
Is it only LP that'll use BVAS Will BVAS makes LP votes in the whole of southeast more than APC votes in South West and NORTH Una no get the population.. larger percent of South South will still vote APC.
You guys may be ignorance of what BVAS is all about self..

You are wrong sir. I see religion determining the choice of the electorate more than even political structure, competence, tribe or party affiliation. Most Christians, including Yorubas are going to prove a point with this 2023 election that Nigeria is not a Muslim country. They are voting massively for Peter Obi of the Labour Party. Majority of the Muslim votes will be shared by Atiku, Tinubu and Kwankwaso. Thus I see Obi of the LP winning the presidency in the first ballot.

Workch:
I thought much, sincerely.
Do you think BVAS how somehow lessen the potency of this structure?

Might be

Workch:
I see a lot of PDP and APC guys depending on existing rigging structures to win this election. A lot them do not really believe that the will of the people is going to make any difference but I want to know what they mean by structure.

Thr structure that I know of is a political presence that not really try to passively convince people to vote them but try and buy voters, snatch ballot boxes, buy INEC staffs to help them overthumbprint ballot papers and bribe INEC preciding officers to help them manipulate incident forms.

Except, I don't know a lot again, what other thing do you think this structure can help you to do now other than just buying votes?

Whether or not we like it, the electoral reform Buhari passed has weakened these structures significantly and there is really much they can do now other than buying votes and maybe mobilizing grassroots campaign, which doedt really convince a lot of people anymore because they already made up their minds. If I am wrong, I want APC and PDP guys do educate me.

It's the reason your party's rallies are always empty.

LegendHero:
Lol. Obiidiots believe that no other party have supporters and because of BVAS, that automatically mean no other party can win. Mass delusion.

—BVAS was used in Ekiti election and APC won
—BVAS was used in Osun election and PDP won

I’m sure there might have been other house or rep election and no unpopular party ever won.

Maybe BVAS is for labour party and Peter Obi.

Waterysperm:
We have debunked this your lie many months ago. There is no village or rural area in this Naija that will tell you that they have not heard of Peter Obi. Anyway I can't wait for February to come walahi.

there is I was in Saki in Oyo state 5 days ago... Just a poster of P.O I no see....na only urban area know of P.O

1Dray:
Yeah, but you sincerely believe they will abandon their brothers to vote Tinubu? My question is, why are you bragging with northern votes that will be splitted in bits?

Split or no split, what's your headache with that

We are not politically naive like you guys.
ASIWAJU can not win presidency without some votes from north and south south..

By the way,alot of northerners are in APC (they have stakes) ,so they will all lose relevances because Atiku and Kwankwaso is on the ballot

Una no understand how this things works brother...

FreedomfromtheT:
You are wrong sir. I see religion determining the choice of the electorate more than even political structure, competence, tribe or party affiliation. Most Christians, including Yorubas are going to prove a point with this 2023 election that Nigeria is not a Muslim country. They are voting massively for Peter Obi of the Labour Party. Majority of the Muslim votes will be shared by Atiku, Tinubu and Kwankwaso. Thus I see Obi of the LP winning the presidency in the first ballot.

Oga I am a Yoruba Christian, so stop all this Yoruba Christian nonsense of a thing. I don't see Tinubu as a Muslim or a Christian, all I see is a competent aspirant..

Go and ask Simon Ekpa.

Workch:
Tinubu will be beaten silly in the north and there is nothing APC can do about it.

He will also be beaten silly in Southeast and southsouth, nothing APC cna do about it.

Tinubu is the least likely to be president, better don't deceive yourself

u are just emotional n not logical


So a local government chairman that belongs to apc n he knows for sure if tinubu wins presidency that’s automatic win for him n he knows what is in stock for him

Same with his numerous supporters who ave been dere for 8 years n they know what is in stock for them in terms of appointments n other gains

So u will just go to that local government n tell them u want to uproot apc just like that?

I even pity many of u in oyo state where I live cos pdp is too strong there with their auxiliary thug n also folarin the apc candidate too na mad man n it’s fight to finish

I wonder how u intend to cope in oyo state

BATified2023:
u are just emotional n not logical


So a local government chairman that belongs to apc n he knows for sure if tinubu wins presidency that’s automatic win for him n he knows what is in stock for him

Same with his numerous supporters who ave been dere for 8 years n they know what is in stock for them in terms of appointments n other gains

So u will just go to that local government n tell them u want to uproot apc just like that?

I even pity many of u in oyo state where I live cos pdp is too strong there with their auxiliary thug n also folarin the apc candidate too na mad man n it’s fight to finish

I wonder how u intend to cope in oyo state

if Tinubu win Atiku for north and Obi for southeast and southsouth, I go bend. It's the reason why Tinubu will be disgraced. I can't wait for February

Thedon22:
Is Osun election the only time opposition party will defeat the rulling party ? Under Obasanjo didn't ACN repeatedly win Lagos? Didn't Mimiko win PDP under Labour Party and most importantly didn't Buhari defeat Jonathan the incumbent? Was these BVAS then ? So Osun APC loss has other issues at play, not BVAS. The main help for PDP in Osun was the rift between Oyetola and Aregbesola and not your BVAS.

many igbos don’t understand what happened in osun

They just believe it’s cos of tinubu

1Dray:
Yeah, but you sincerely believe they will abandon their brothers to vote Tinubu? My question is, why are you bragging with northern votes that will be splitted in bits?

what about when northerners voted abiola instead of tofa?

What about when they voted Jonathan instead of other northerners?

tolue42:
Split or no split, what's your headache with that

We are not politically naive like you guys.
ASIWAJU can not win presidency without some votes from north and south south..

By the way,alot of northerners are in APC (they have stakes) ,so they will all lose relevances because Atiku and Kwankwaso is on the ballot

Una no understand how this things works brother...

How has their stakes help stop the poverty, hunger and starvation up north? I'm in the north, BTW, I know what is happening here.

tolue42:
Oga I am a Yoruba Christian, so stop all this Yoruba Christian nonsense of a thing. I don't see Tinubu as a Muslim or a Christian, all I see is a competent aspirant..

many igbos shouting Yoruba Christian’s have never been to d south west


Emeka wey dey sell cloth for dugbe no fit talk am cos e don see reality n those in Lagos can’t talk that thrash but u see those in d village, they don’t understand anything

I wonder what they will call a man bearing Ahmed victor?

Workch:
if Tinubu win Atiku for north and Obi for southeast and southsouth, I go bend. It's the reason why Tinubu will be disgraced. I can't wait for February

tinubu doesn’t need to win all

Election is won strategic places n u get it


Imagine peter obi wining in south east n losing in the north

Don’t forget only borno n yobe votes can cancel d whole south east votes

What politicians do is to look for ways to cancel their opponent votes

Imagine if tinubu north west votes cancel obi south east votes?

Imagine if tinubu north east votes cancels obi south south votes?

Imagine if they share north central

Just think of tinubu upper hand in the south west?

That’s how it is mapped out, you look for ways to neutralize your opponent strength when u can’t win

Hope u are getting d picture? N that’s y tinubu is doing more in the north cos he want to cancel whatever obi n atiku have to offer

BATified2023:
what about when northerners voted abiola instead of tofa?

What about when they voted Jonathan instead of other northerners?

It's a different scenario here. There was no hunger and starvation caused by SDP, but now we have hunger and starvation caused by APC. So you expect people that are starving to vote the same party that caused the poverty, hunger and starvation. Please come to North and see what I'm talking about. The people I asked none have really shown interest in voting APC. Forget what you see in the rallies, they were mobilized with sums as much as 10k each. The APC women for Tinubu that took place in Maiduguri, I know some women that were mobilized to attend. They said were paid 10k each. And most of the still said they won't vote Tinubu. So don't let rallies make you think they will vote Tinubu because they attended the rallies as they were paid to attend. There will be a lot of shocks and surprises after this coming election.