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Motorcycle debate - they cannot understand the nexus btw land and their immediate problems. If land is non issue - why is Boer sitting on it.Ideally because most boers can get formal jobs - you should leave land to unskilled africans to forage, hunt, gather and farm it. It requires no skills..you're very skilled and can hack urban living.

jl115:
I'm also sure they don't agree with it, you are right! .......... however having a job, not being killed or raped and not being robbed, seemed more important than land when they were asked that question.

rvp2018:
You think DA/ASA will have numbers to form gov? That would take ANC capitulation. Most likely scenario ANC will lose that 5% of moderate to DA/ASA but will remain with hardliners who will go to bed with Malema...driving South Africa to a ditch.

After Ramaphosa the ANC is practically finished, the ANC are polling around 40% now,of that 40% 35% said they will not vote ANC if Ramaphosa is not the President, the ANC will be a non factor by 2029.

Also ASA is not just taking the moderate vote its also climbing into a lot of EFF vote,who's voters have become disillusioned with the party because of its open border policy, ActionSA took nearly 3% of the national vote during the previous yet only contesting 6 municipalities... They will be up around 6-8% in 2024 and after that probably around 17-19% in 2029

rvp2018:
Motorcycle debate - they cannot understand the nexus btw land and their immediate problems. If land is non issue - why is Boer sitting on it.Ideally because most boers can get formal jobs - you should leave land to unskilled africans to forage, hunt, gather and farm it. It requires no skills..you're very skilled and can hack urban living.

How much total land do whites own? Give me a figure then we see if Boere really are sitting on all the land

Copied - these are realistic scenarios in 2024.

ANC gets close to 50, but just below, and doesn’t work with anyone and forms a minority government;
ANC gets into the mid-40s and works with the EFF of Julius Malema to form a government;
ANC gets into the mid-40s and works with the DA to form a government;
ANC gets in the low 40s and the opposition, with the backing of the EFF, forms an alternative government.

I think you'll be with ANC for at least another decade. It will keep losing urban support but will keep rural poor south africa bedrock. If you dont improve the fortunes of the poor - they will drag your country down by supporting a corrupt ANC. You will wish you gave them motor cycles to swap them with wheelbarrows.

jl115:
After Ramaphosa the ANC is practically finished, the ANC are polling around 40% now,of that 40% 35% said they will not vote ANC if Ramaphosa is not the President, the ANC will be a non factor by 2029.

Also ASA is not just taking the moderate vote its also climbing into a lot of EFF vote,who's voters have become disillusioned with the party because of its open border policy, ActionSA took nearly 3% of the national vote during the previous yet only contesting 6 municipalities... They will be up around 6-8% in 2024 and after that probably around 17-19% in 2029

First Google results -70% despite being 10%.

The growing fight in South Africa over land and identityhttps://abcnews.go.com › International › story
10 Apr 2019 — Whites in South Africa own over 70% of the farm and agricultural holdings in the country despite people of color making up 90% of the population

jl115:
How much total land do whites own? Give me a figure then we see if Boere really are sitting on all the land

rvp2018:
First Google results -70% despite being 10%.

The growing fight in South Africa over land and identityhttps://abcnews.go.com › International › story
10 Apr 2019 — Whites in South Africa own over 70% of the farm and agricultural holdings in the country despite people of color making up 90% of the population

Where did it state that they own 90% of land like you said before?

It's only agric land and at best is as 70%

Slumdog with strawman arguments to deflect the elephant in the room.
I actually had to search few pages just to be sure I did not make such a boneheaded statement.
I always know it's 70%.

You need that agriculture farm to save yourself from that slum.
70% for people who are 10% of the population is a problem.

I support Malema and EFF on land issue.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Where did it state that they own 90% of land like you said before?

It's only agric land and at best is as 70%

rvp2018:
First Google results -70% despite being 10%.

The growing fight in South Africa over land and identityhttps://abcnews.go.com › International › story
10 Apr 2019 — Whites in South Africa own over 70% of the farm and agricultural holdings in the country despite people of color making up 90% of the population

I'm talking about total land my friend....67% of South Africas population is urban

rvp2018:
Slumdog with strawman arguments to deflect the elephant in the room.
I actually had to search few pages just to be sure I did not make such a boneheaded statement.
I always know it's 70%.

You need that agriculture farm to save yourself from that slum.
70% for people who are 10% of the population is a problem.

I support Malema and EFF on land issue.

Boere are good commercial farmers, just like they are good at Rugby, it's not surprising that the majority of commercial farmers are Boer.... I mean its in the name... Boer means farmer

And during the first land redistribution process only 8% of applicants actually chose land above compensation.... So this again proves that SAns don't want land

rvp2018:
Slumdog with strawman arguments to deflect the elephant in the room.
I actually had to search few pages just to be sure I did not make such a boneheaded statement.
I always know it's 70%.

You need that agriculture farm to save yourself from that slum.
70% for people who are 10% of the population is a problem.

I support Malema and EFF on land issue.

Where I live is not of no importance in a faceless platform, whether Sandton or Alexandra, farm or village, estate or town or estate. Where one works or how much wealth one has.

If you looking for those look me up in linkedin, or Google scholar for my articles.

People hae land to farm on plenty of it, don't worry about who farms in SA how much one farm is least of South Africans worries.

Again you supporting EFF /MALEMA is of no essence, it's useless. South Africans don't he's on a decline just like the ANC. It's future diminishing

jl115:
Boere are good commercial farmers, just like they are good at Rugby, it's not surprising that the majority of commercial farmers are Boer.... I mean its in the name... Boer means farmer

Just like its ancestors in France and Netherlands

Infact boere translates to farmer, evident to good farming practices

jl115:
Boere are good commercial farmers, just like they are good at Rugby, it's not surprising that the majority of commercial farmers are Boer.... I mean its in the name... Boer means farmer

Rugby must be from the French ancestry of the boere

AfriqueDuZuid:
Just like its ancestors in France and Netherlands

Infact boere translates to farmer, evident to good farming practices

exactly besides being a commercial farmer is a very very sh1t job....much different to just being a subsistence farmer which has a lot less stress.

announced the preferred bidder for the 4th mainland bridge project, Special Adviser, Mr. Ope George announced Messrs CCECC-CRCCIG CONSORTIUM as the preferred bidder

68816419:
announced the preferred bidder for the 4th mainland bridge project, Special Adviser, Mr. Ope George announced Messrs CCECC-CRCCIG CONSORTIUM as the preferred bidder

Fish design looks cool with lights on

lets' THE COMPETITION BEGIN
The year that the USA broke ground on what will be its biggest Consulate in the world, in Lagos, Nigeria; and China broke ground on the HQ Complex it is donating to West African regional body ECOWAS, in Abuja, Nigeria.

jl115:
exactly besides being a commercial farmer is a very very sh1t job....much different to just being a subsistence farmer which has a lot less stress.

True

AfriqueDuZuid:
Fish design looks cool with lights on

This bridge would be longest in Africa ,The bridge is expected to span about 37 kilometres,

jl115:
Boere are good commercial farmers, just like they are good at Rugby, it's not surprising that the majority of commercial farmers are Boer.... I mean its in the name... Boer means farmer

And during the first land redistribution process only 8% of applicants actually chose land above compensation.... So this again proves that SAns don't want land

Xhosas seems to be doing very well in rugby ie Mampimpi, Xolisi, lukhanyo Am etc

68816419:
This bridge would be longest in Africa ,The bridge is expected to span about 37 kilometres,

That's great deserves to be celebrated

While others choose negativity I choose positivity

68816419:
lets' THE COMPETITION BEGIN
The year that the USA broke ground on what will be its biggest Consulate in the world, in Lagos, Nigeria; and China broke ground on the HQ Complex it is donating to West African regional body ECOWAS, in Abuja, Nigeria.

Instead of celebrating this

Others will want to counter with something else, chest pains I tell you.

68816419:
This bridge would be longest in Africa ,The bridge is expected to span about 37 kilometres,

some East African will soon try to compare

68816419:
announced the preferred bidder for the 4th mainland bridge project, Special Adviser, Mr. Ope George announced Messrs CCECC-CRCCIG CONSORTIUM as the preferred bidder

kul

jl115:
exactly besides being a commercial farmer is a very very sh1t job....much different to just being a subsistence farmer which has a lot less stress.

Small holders can become commercial..see Kenya..we already beat boer in milk production..we evertook them in avocado's..name any fruits and vegies.. name it..Kenya tea is on the back of smallholder farming..the smallholder organised into cooperative can beat large farms.The southern Africa negros needs to realise it can be done ...the idea that only white commercial can farm is silly..boer has land in entire white world..USA,Australia, Brazil are rolling carpets for them...a black south Africa only land is their ancestors land..they cannot be allowed to farm in rural Georgia without getting shot by white racist boys

AfriqueDuZuid:
Xhosas seems to be doing very well in rugby ie Mampimpi, Xolisi, lukhanyo Am etc

definitely!!! Rugby and Cricket seem to be over taking soccer in Xhosa communities.

rvp2018:
Small holders can become commercial..see Kenya..we already beat boer in milk production..we evertook them in avocado's..name any fruits and vegies.. name it..Kenya tea is on the back of smallholder farming..the smallholder organised into cooperative can beat large farms.The southern Africa negros needs to realise it can be done ...the idea that only white commercial can farm is silly..boer has land in entire white world..USA,Australia, Brazil are rolling carpets for them...a black south Africa only land is their ancestors land..they cannot be allowed to farm in rural Georgia without getting shot by white racist boys

- South Africa doesn't have an environment which is conducive for dairy cattle, we have a lot of diseases and low waterfall and cattle need to be resistant to that, unfortunately dairy cattle are soft hence why SA has never been a large dairy producing country. Avocado's need a lot of water... Thus again only a few farmers grow them... Kenya in general is wetter than SA so no surprise you are growing more avocado's.

- Some black South Africans have formed partnerships and are doing very well for themselves

- I never said Boere are the only ones that can farm Commercially.... What I said was a great number more Boere want to be commercial farmers than Black South Africans... My grandfather had a commercial dairy farm, its a sh1t job, so much so that not one of his sons decided to carry on with it and he sold his farm.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Instead of celebrating this

Others will want to counter with something else, chest pains I tell you.

rvp2018:
Small holders can become commercial..see Kenya..we already beat boer in milk production..we evertook them in avocado's..name any fruits and vegies.. name it..Kenya tea is on the back of smallholder farming..the smallholder organised into cooperative can beat large farms.The southern Africa negros needs to realise it can be done ...the idea that only white commercial can farm is silly..boer has land in entire white world..USA,Australia, Brazil are rolling carpets for them...a black south Africa only land is their ancestors land..they [b]cannot be allowed to farm [/b]in rural Georgia without getting shot by white racist boys

another lie

jl115:
- South Africa doesn't have an environment which is conducive for dairy cattle, we have a lot of diseases and low waterfall and cattle need to be resistant to that, unfortunately dairy cattle are soft hence why SA has never been a large dairy producing country. Avocado's need a lot of water... Thus again only a few farmers grow them... Kenya in general is wetter than SA so no surprise you are growing more avocado's.

- Some black South Africans have formed partnerships and are doing very well for themselves

- I never said Boere are the only ones that can farm Commercially.... What I said was a great number more Boere want to be commercial farmers than Black South Africans... My grandfather had a commercial dairy farm, its a sh1t job, so much so that not one of his sons decided to carry on with it and he sold his farm.

He tends to think every shoe fits everywhere

jl115:
definitely!!! Rugby and Cricket seem to be over taking soccer in Xhosa communities.

It has indeed also boxing


Each tribe has its strong points

jl115:
- South Africa doesn't have an environment which is conducive for dairy cattle, we have a lot of diseases and low waterfall and cattle need to be resistant to that, unfortunately dairy cattle are soft hence why SA has never been a large dairy producing country. Avocado's need a lot of water... Thus again only a few farmers grow them... Kenya in general is wetter than SA so no surprise you are growing more avocado's.

- Some black South Africans have formed partnerships and are doing very well for themselves

- I never said Boere are the only ones that can farm Commercially.... What I said was a great number more Boere want to be commercial farmers than Black South Africans... My grandfather had a commercial dairy farm, its a sh1t job, so much so that not one of his sons decided to carry on with it and he sold his farm.

He tends to think every shoe fits everywhere

68816419:
lets' THE COMPETITION BEGIN
The year that the USA broke ground on what will be its biggest Consulate in the world, in Lagos, Nigeria; and China broke ground on the HQ Complex it is donating to West African regional body ECOWAS, in Abuja, Nigeria.

Nice.