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Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by OJEEMAH(m): 10:58am On Dec 30, 2022
do4luv14:
I hear say them want return Copa America back to its former format,
Take a good look at the screenshots.

Conmebol never had a defined format

Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Kingcalls: 11:13am On Dec 30, 2022
OJEEMAH:
You never had a problem when Kane scored 4penalties in 2018 World Cup.

You never had a when problem Ronaldo scored 3 penalties out of 5goals in Euro2020

You never had a problem when Greizmann banged 4 Penalties in 2018 World Cup.

What exactly did they do?

Did FIFA tell Dutch players to make sure their penalties were saved by Martinez right

Did FIFA also tell Coman and other French players to make sure their penalties were caught?

Since you knew what they did, where did you get so much confidence that Argentina would not go beyond round of 16/quarter finals?

You claim Argentina cannot play any European country cos they lost to France and Croatia in the last World Cup.

Shortly before the World Cup, you were all over the place saying Argentina will be taught how to play football by small Poland.

After they dealt with Poland, you had so much confidence Argentina will not escape Netherlands .

Unfortunately, Argentina thwarted your hope then you switched to Croatia thinking its 2018 when they humiliated Argentina.

Have you forgotten how you underrated, maligned and slandered South American countries cos Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay struggled against small European countries like Iceland and Switzerland in the last World Cup?

Did you complain when they awarded 2 penalties against Argentina in the final?

Did you complain when they gave 10mins additional time against Netherlands?

How about when they cancelled 3 goals against Saudi Arabia?

Even you can’t deny the fact that Argentina dominated and played better than Netherlands, Croatia and France.
Kate had he's in the group stages against teams they wud hv beaten with or without penalties.... Argentina got in the quarters semis and final...all dubious ... we saw the jne they gave him against Poland, all fake penalties...all fixed games ....we know what they did

The 3 goals they cancelled against Saudi were jut goals ...it was easier for them to steal and fix games thru penalties than to use offside goals due to var cos they were all clear offsides ...if VAR dint exist , they wud hv used offside goals instead of penalties to give then the WC ... this WC was fixed for Argentina and the media were in on it
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by robosky02(op): 11:51am On Dec 30, 2022
Jokerman:
Pele is the greatest.

A black man who transcended all obstacles at such a time as his

My all time list

Pele
Maradona

CRonaldo
Pessi
Zidane
Delima
Cruyff
Beckenbauer
Platini
Ronaldinho
Maldini
Be real naa

Where is messi?
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by OJEEMAH(m): 11:57am On Dec 30, 2022
Kingcalls:
Kate had he's in the group stages against teams they wud hv beaten with or without penalties.... Argentina got in the quarters semis and final...all dubious ... we saw the jne they gave him against Poland, all fake penalties...all fixed games ....we know what they did

The 3 goals they cancelled against Saudi were jut goals ...it was easier for them to steal and fix games thru penalties than to use offside goals due to var cos they were all clear offsides ...if VAR dint exist , they wud hv used offside goals instead of penalties to give then the WC ... this WC was fixed for Argentina and the media were in on it
Fixed yet they gave 10 additional mins against Netherlands even though Argentina dey lead at the time.

Fixed yet France got 2 penalties in the final and on both occasions, Argentina were leading.
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Jokerman(m): 12:07pm On Dec 30, 2022
robosky02:
Be real naa

Where is messi?
Pessi is there grin
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by mayor1814: 1:03pm On Dec 30, 2022
Jokerman:
Pele is the greatest.

A black man who transcended all obstacles at such a time as his

My all time list

Pele
Maradona

CRonaldo
Pessi
Zidane
Delima
Cruyff
Beckenbauer
Platini
Ronaldinho
Maldini
It's very clear to everyone that Messi is far better and far ahead of Tapnaldo. Anyway if placing Tapnaldo ahead of Messi makes u happy, good for you. But everyone knows the truth. It's crystal clear.
grin
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by maxwell530(m): 1:21pm On Dec 30, 2022
OJEEMAH:
You never had a problem when Kane scored 4penalties in 2018 World Cup.

You never had a when problem Ronaldo scored 3 penalties out of 5goals in Euro2020

You never had a problem when Greizmann banged 4 Penalties in 2018 World Cup.

What exactly did they do?

Did FIFA tell Dutch players to make sure their penalties were saved by Martinez right

Did FIFA also tell Coman and other French players to make sure their penalties were caught?

Since you knew what they did, where did you get so much confidence that Argentina would not go beyond round of 16/quarter finals?

You claim Argentina cannot play any European country cos they lost to France and Croatia in the last World Cup.

Shortly before the World Cup, you were all over the place saying Argentina will be taught how to play football by small Poland.

After they dealt with Poland, you had so much confidence Argentina will not escape Netherlands .

Unfortunately, Argentina thwarted your hope then you switched to Croatia thinking its 2018 when they humiliated Argentina.

Have you forgotten how you underrated, maligned and slandered South American countries cos Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay struggled against small European countries like Iceland and Switzerland in the last World Cup?

Did you complain when they awarded 2 penalties against Argentina in the final?

Did you complain when they gave 10mins additional time against Netherlands?

How about when they cancelled 3 goals against Saudi Arabia?

Even you can’t deny the fact that Argentina dominated and played better than Netherlands, Croatia and France.
You should not be replying that troll, you should've get used to his BS by now.
before the tournament started,He was all over nairaland with 100% assurance Argentina will not top their group. The clown came up with his conspiracy how Argentina has been avoiding European teams grin grin grin


I pity who still engage him Sha
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Kingcalls: 1:30pm On Dec 30, 2022
OJEEMAH:
Fixed yet they gave 10 additional mins against Netherlands even though Argentina dey lead at the time.

Fixed yet France got 2 penalties in the final and on both occasions, Argentina were leading.
10 additional minutes...was it the only game that got 10?? 80% of games got that , so what's the fuzz ....maybe that y they even suspended the ref after the game cos he almost scattered fifas plans .... the thing with u Messi people is that u will see black and call it white ....
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by KnowledgeIsVast(m): 1:31pm On Dec 30, 2022
Why cryuff and maradona go de with Messi and Ronaldo for same category abeg muna go de watch football well ewwwww
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Madups(m): 2:34pm On Dec 30, 2022
Amotolongbo:
They are all great

Pele is the icon of football.

Now that Cristiano has dropped out of the GOAT race with Messi, majority of his fans would prefer to name Pele as the GOAT.
out of the race.. You mean the one in your dream? Thank God say this one no dey look our G.O.A.T in the night again.
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by OJEEMAH(m): 2:55pm On Dec 30, 2022
Kingcalls:
10 additional minutes...was it the only game that got 10?? 80% of games got that , so what's the fuzz
Exactly my point but you still dey contradict yourself. If you claim the World Cup was rigged, why didn’t FIFA end the match since Argentina was already winning?
maybe that y they even suspended the ref after the game cos he almost scattered fifas plans
nobody was suspended. Before the World Cup, FIFA had drawn their timetable and games that will be officiated by different referees. Stop creating false a narrative…… was he the only ref that left? After the group games, number of referees were trimmed and as the tournament progresses, more and more referees were sent home as their services would no longer be required.
the thing with u Messi people is that u will see black and call it white ....
This is common among Ronaldo fans and that’s why most of you guys have decided to back Pele & even small
Mbappe against Messi.
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by OJEEMAH(m): 3:20pm On Dec 30, 2022
maxwell530:
You should not be replying that troll, you should've get used to his BS by now.
before the tournament started,He was all over nairaland with 100% assurance Argentina will not top their group. The clown came up with his conspiracy how Argentina has been avoiding European teams grin grin grin


I pity who still engage him Sha
Bro I just tire for Ronaldo fanboys.

European teams really disappointed him. When Argentina lost to Saudi, he was still bragging and slandering South American Countries.

The guy had so much confidence on Portugal. Little did he know that Morocco will be their nightmare and it was at that point, they all decided to switch the narrative so they can come up with this lame excuse incase Argentina emerges champions.

It’s funny how someone who thinks the tournament was rigged for Argentina had so much confidence Netherlands, Croatia or France would stop them.
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Kingcalls: 3:23pm On Dec 30, 2022
OJEEMAH:
Exactly my point but you still dey contradict yourself. If you claim the World Cup was rigged, why didn’t FIFA end the match since Argentina was already winning? nobody was suspended. Before the World Cup, FIFA had drawn their timetable and games that will be officiated by different referees. Stop creating false a narrative…… was he the only ref that left? After the group games, number of referees were trimmed and as the tournament progresses, more and more referees were sent home as their services would no longer be required. This is common among Ronaldo fans and that’s why most of you guys have decided to back Pele & even small
Mbappe against Messi.
Are u saying that Messi is better than Pele.... u call comparing Messi with mbappe an insult and u dare call mbappe that's carrying Messi at psg small ...but at the same time Messi no small compared to Pele... the hypocrisy stinks to the high heavens .... it dint take Pele or mbappe 5 world cup attempts to win it
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Amotolongbo(f): 4:11pm On Dec 30, 2022
Vinnie2000:
If Messi leaves PSG to Man City or Another Big club, Mbappe's career will Crash! sad

Have you seen Any Player or Striker winning UEFA Champions league all on his own? huh

Benzema needed Vinicius to win the UCL.
Ronaldo need Gareth Bale to win it in 2014.
Ronaldihno need Samuel Eto in 2006.

If he allows dat his Foolish and Childish Pride to becloud his reasoning, his Career will turn Average like Neymar. undecided
throw away that bolded.

Was Messi in French squad when France reached two World Cup final twice?

Was Messi in the PSG two seasons ago when PSG reached the UCL final?
Was Messi in Monaco where Mbappe exhibited the prodigy in him?

Yet we know Mbappe carried Messi last season contributing almost more than half of Messi’s goal
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by robosky02(op): 4:23pm On Dec 30, 2022
Amotolongbo:
throw away that bolded.

Was Messi in French squad when France reached two World Cup final twice?

Was Messi in the PSG two seasons ago when PSG reached the UCL final?
Was Messi in Monaco where Mbappe exhibited the prodigy in him?

Yet we know Mbappe carried Messi last season contributing almost more than half of Messi’s goal
That line seems like an insult


Messi legacy, mbappe may never reach it in life
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Amotolongbo(f): 4:29pm On Dec 30, 2022
robosky02:
That line seems like an insult


Messi legacy, mbappe may never reach it in life
This is not about legacy.

Please read what you bolded and quoted once again
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by robosky02(op): 4:36pm On Dec 30, 2022
Amotolongbo:
This is not about legacy.

Please read what you bolded and quoted once again
Messi doesn't need mbappe, but mbappe needs to learn from messi
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Amotolongbo(f): 4:46pm On Dec 30, 2022
robosky02:
Messi doesn't need mbappe, but mbappe needs to learn from messi
You obviously don’t understand what you’ve read and responded to.

What were Messi and Mbappe’s goal stats last season?
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Counteryou: 4:47pm On Dec 30, 2022
Kingcalls:
Are u saying that Messi is better than Pele.... u call comparing Messi with mbappe an insult and u dare call mbappe that's carrying Messi at psg small ...but at the same time Messi no small compared to Pele... the hypocrisy stinks to the high heavens .... it dint take Pele or mbappe 5 world cup attempts to win it
The one thing that’s making me so happy recently is that Messi succeeded in making sure you stopped comparing him to Ronaldo, now Mpape is the new sherif in town. Your arguments on FIFA rigging the cup for Messi is laughable, guy wake-up ure no more in kindergarten, these are the kind of discussion kids would sit and be having, maybe you watch too much cartoon. Thank God Mpape shoulder is too tiny to carry Messi in this World Cup atleast we can see who is carrying the other. Let me even remind you that I saw a video where FIFA officials were having meeting with all media houses and referees to make sure Messi wins the World Cup, I saw a leaked memo from FIFA asking some players to foul Argentina players and cause penalties and to intentionally lose penalties when playing shootout with Argentina. I actually know how you feel right now and I don’t want to be in your shoe bro! If Ronaldo had won this World Cup I would have atleast left the country for consolation, guy right now I can bet it with you that no fan of Messi care anymore, because football has finished the moment Messi won that cup.
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by akpenlegedu: 4:47pm On Dec 30, 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbAXGDQQ9UM

Brazil In Mourning For ‘King Of Football’ Pele
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by OJEEMAH(m): 4:59pm On Dec 30, 2022
Kingcalls:
Are u saying that Messi is better than Pele.... u call comparing Messi with mbappe an insult and u dare call mbappe that's carrying Messi at psg small ...but at the same time Messi no small compared to Pele... the hypocrisy stinks to the high heavens .... it dint take Pele or mbappe 5 world cup attempts to win it
No reasonable person will ever compare Mbappe and Messi at this stage of his career.

And aside winning 2018 World Cup with France, is there any area Mbappe can be compared to Messi?

Messi is a 7x Balon D’or winner
Messi is a 6x European Golden Boot winner.
3 times UEFA Player of the Year
6 times UCL Top Scorer

I can justify calling Mbappe small before Messi with the few achievements I listed above.

That’s how you claim Xavi & Iniesta carried Messi and he played 2 World Cup finals/did a whole lot without them.

Did Mbappe also carry Messi in the World Cup or did Mbappe play for Argentina when Messi gave them qualification hope with a screamer against Mexico?

Mbappe helped Messi score the opening goal against Australia in the round of 16?

Was it Mbappe that helped Messi supply that defence splitting pass and assist against Netherlands in the Quarter Finals?

Or Mbappe helped Messi with Argentina’s third goal in the final against France?

Whether you like it or not, Messi is more decorated than Pele. The fact is Messi has a World Cup winners medal. It doesn’t matter how many he won.

Messi broke and surpassed Pele’s goal records.
Messi won trophies and awards Pele never had.
Messi conquered Europe(UCL, La liga, Ligue 1, Copa Del Rey, UEFA Super Cup & U20 World Cup in Netherlands)
Messi conquered Asia( FIFA Club World Cup, Olympics 2008 & 2022 World Cup)
Messi conquered South America( Copa America)
Finally, he conquered the world(World Cup)

Tell me….. on what ground is Pele better than Messi?
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by OJEEMAH(m): 5:01pm On Dec 30, 2022
Counteryou:
The one thing that’s making me so happy recently is that Messi succeeded in making sure you stopped comparing him to Ronaldo, now Mpape is the new sherif in town. Your arguments on FIFA rigging the cup for Messi is laughable, guy wake-up ure no more in kindergarten, these are the kind of discussion kids would sit and be having, maybe you watch too much cartoon. Thank God Mpape shoulder is too tiny to carry Messi in this World Cup atleast we can see who is carrying the other. Let me even remind you that I saw a video where FIFA officials were having meeting with all media houses and referees to make sure Messi wins the World Cup, I saw a leaked memo from FIFA asking some players to foul Argentina players and cause penalties and to intentionally lose penalties when playing shootout with Argentina. I actually know how you feel right now and I don’t want to be in your shoe bro! If Ronaldo had won this World Cup I would have atleast left the country for consolation, guy right now I can bet it with you that no fan of Messi care anymore, because football has finished the moment Messi won that cup.
Apt!
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Kingcalls: 6:05pm On Dec 30, 2022
Counteryou:
The one thing that’s making me so happy recently is that Messi succeeded in making sure you stopped comparing him to Ronaldo, now Mpape is the new sherif in town. Your arguments on FIFA rigging the cup for Messi is laughable, guy wake-up ure no more in kindergarten, these are the kind of discussion kids would sit and be having, maybe you watch too much cartoon. Thank God Mpape shoulder is too tiny to carry Messi in this World Cup atleast we can see who is carrying the other. Let me even remind you that I saw a video where FIFA officials were having meeting with all media houses and referees to make sure Messi wins the World Cup, I saw a leaked memo from FIFA asking some players to foul Argentina players and cause penalties and to intentionally lose penalties when playing shootout with Argentina. I actually know how you feel right now and I don’t want to be in your shoe bro! If Ronaldo had won this World Cup I would have atleast left the country for consolation, guy right now I can bet it with you that no fan of Messi care anymore, because football has finished the moment Messi won that cup.
Ronaldo is still greater and better than Messi...7 games wey dem use free penalties ontop every match for Argentina no follow ...no b so how other legends win am... Ronaldo win champions league with 2 teams still win best player In the top 3 best leagues in the world... dem no born Messi to do am

Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by OJEEMAH(m): 8:33pm On Dec 30, 2022
Kingcalls:
Ronaldo is still greater and better than Messi...7 games wey dem use free penalties ontop every match for Argentina no follow ...no b so how other legends win am... Ronaldo win champions league with 2 teams still win best player In the top 3 best leagues in the world... dem no born Messi to do am
headlines can be misleading.

See his exact words….. what Iniesta said is exactly what you guys are doing.

Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Kingcalls: 8:35pm On Dec 30, 2022
OJEEMAH:
headlines can be misleading.

See his exact words….. what Iniesta said is exactly what you guys are doing.
Football is political...we know they fixed the WC for Messi.... the number of Ronaldo fans even increased after the world cup.... Ronaldo still remains the greatest, wc dint change it...and I believe if Ronaldo was the one that won it, Messi fans will still regard Messi as the greater one ...
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by OJEEMAH(m): 8:39pm On Dec 30, 2022
Kingcalls:
Football is political...we know they fixed the WC for Messi.... the number of Ronaldo fans even increased after the world cup.... Ronaldo still remains the greatest, wc dint change it...and I believe if Ronaldo was the one that won it, Messi fans will still regard Messi as the greater one ...
With or without the World Cup, Messi has always been regarded by serving and ex players and coaches, pundits and other football professionals as the greatest ever.

See tweets….it’s not just about World Cup. Messi is miles ahead

Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by OJEEMAH(m): 8:47pm On Dec 30, 2022
Kingcalls:
Football is political...we know they fixed the WC for Messi.... the number of Ronaldo fans even increased after the world cup.... Ronaldo still remains the greatest, wc dint change it...and I believe if Ronaldo was the one that won it, Messi fans will still regard Messi as the greater one ...
One fact is, you and I do not know football better than these professionals.

Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Kingcalls: 8:49pm On Dec 30, 2022
OJEEMAH:
One fact is, you and I do not know football better than these professionals.
That's their opinion....70% of retired footballers claimed Ronaldo as well...we know Rooney has always been jealous of Ronaldo and carager is a hater , always hating ....
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Stephenabudu960(m): 9:19pm On Dec 30, 2022
Respectfullly speaking NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE should compare messi,Ronaldo to PELE

A Man that was great on and off the field
A man that had impact on and off the field
A man who has received accolades from Presidents both dead and alive
A Man who stopped a war


PELE will always remain the GREATEST OF ALL TIME
PELE is to football what M.Ali is to Boxing
PELE is to football what the Beethoven is to Music
Its simply UNCOMPARABLE

Your GOAT will always remain in the SHADOW of THE ULTIMATE GOAT
...stop the unnecessary and childish comparison

[center]RIP to the KING of FOOTBALL[/center]

Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by OJEEMAH(m): 10:07pm On Dec 30, 2022
Kingcalls:
That's their opinion....70% of retired footballers claimed Ronaldo as well...we know Rooney has always been jealous of Ronaldo and carager is a hater , always hating ....
retired and active footballers that regard Ronaldo as GOAT are not upto or more than 40%

Long before now, Messi have always be regarded as the greatest ever including some in Ronaldo’s camp
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Counteryou: 10:07pm On Dec 30, 2022
Stephenabudu960:
Respectfullly speaking NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE should compare messi,Ronaldo to PELE

A Man that was great on and off the field
A man that had impact on and off the field
A man who has received accolades from Presidents both dead and alive
A Man who stopped a war


PELE will always remain the GREATEST OF ALL TIME
PELE is to football what M.Ali is to Boxing
PELE is to football what the Beethoven is to Music
Its simply UNCOMPARABLE

Your GOAT will always remain in the SHADOW of THE ULTIMATE GOAT
...stop the unnecessary and childish comparison

[center]RIP to the KING of FOOTBALL[/center]
Bros which one is no one should be compared with Pele. Tell me which president Ronaldo and Messi wan see wey them no go see. Pele is not more influential than any of them, just that Pele is older and people seems to respect his age other wise on and off field Pele did not wield their influences individually. Is it because you see fan talk down on them on nairaland on daily basis? Don’t be deceived by exaggerated history, Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are more influential than Pele both on and off field today.

Messi/ Ronaldo are super great on and off the field ( Ask Addidas, Nike, instagram and all brands associated with them)
Messi/ Ronaldo also have super impact on and off the field ( Ask Coca-Cola)
Messi/ Ronaldo has also received accolades from several Presidents both dead and alive
There can also be 48hours cease fire because of Messi/ Ronaldo ( they share billions of football fan between them). Abeg stop that myth of no man should not be compared to Pele.
Re: Who REALLY Is The Best Ever: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi Or Ronaldo? by Kingcalls: 10:12pm On Dec 30, 2022
OJEEMAH:
retired and active footballers that regard Ronaldo as GOAT are not upto or more than 40%

Long before now, Messi have always be regarded as the greatest ever including some in Ronaldo’s camp
Story.... those that hv always believed that Ronaldo is the greatest still think so....
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