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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:42pm On Jan 01, 2023
Obama
Nobel Laurate Martha Wangari - 1st African woman to win a Nobel

Notable recipients include Kenya's Wangari Maathai, the first African female and first environmentalist to win the Nobel Prize; Mahmoud Mamdani, a prominent Ugandan academic listed in the top 100 list of public intellectuals by Prospect Magazine; and George Saitoti, a former vice president of Kenya. Other notable recipients include[3][4][5][6][7]

Academia and education
Prof. Leah Marangu (Former Vice Chancellor of African Nazarene University)
Prof. Mahmoud Mamdani (Prominent Ugandan author and academic. Director of Makerere Institute of Social Research)
Prof. Miriam Were (Chancellor, Moi University. Winner of the Hideyo Noguchi Africa Prize)
Dr. Nathan K. Saziru (Former Professor, Ohio State University. Alumnus of Stanford University, University of Oxford)
Diplomatic service
Pamela Odede Mboya (Former Kenyan representative to UN Habitat)
Hon. Simon Thuo Kairo (First Kenyan ambassador to China)
Prof. Washington Aggrey Okumu (Kenyan diplomat, economist and politician)
Environmentalism and conservationism
Hon. Wangari Maathai (First African female and first environmentalist Nobel Prize winner)
Journalism, writing and media
Maina wa Kinyatti (Kenyan Author and Mau Mau historian. Winner of the PEN freedom to write award)
Politics, trade unionism and civil rights
Hon. Arthur Magugu (Kenyan politician and former cabinet minister)
Prof. George Saitoti (Mathematician. Former Vice President of Kenya)
Hon. Ochola Ogaye Mak'Anyengo (Kenyan trade unionist and politician)
Hon. Wilson Ndolo Ayah (Kenyan politician and former cabinet minister)
Dr. Zachary Onyonka (Kenyan politician and former cabinet minister)
Science, technology and medicine
Prof. Miriam Were (Prominent A.I.D.S. researcher. Chancellor, Moi University. Winner of the Hideyo Noguchi Africa Prize)
Dr. Ng'endo Mwangi (First Kenyan female physician. First black African student at Smith College in Massachusetts and the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York)
Prof Reuben Olembo (Kenyan scientist and environmentalist. Former Deputy Director of UNEP)

Just30:
running away with his tail in-between his legs grin grin

So nothing came out of Kenya Ivy league educationist ? grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:44pm On Jan 01, 2023
rvp2018:
There is no medicine she is studying assumging she in harvard.
you're mad
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Obaaderemi2: 9:44pm On Jan 01, 2023
rvp2018:
They just didnt lose - they lost at preliminaries - kenya teams won all quarters, semi-finals and finals; only Ibandan fluked through once. The rest was all kenya all the time...from quarters.
They beat your University 720 against 610, over a hundred points and you call that a fluke. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:46pm On Jan 01, 2023
The next year they didnt even get thro the prelimanires - Egerton won it again in 2010. They had done it in 2008 then 2010. It really was competition btw kenya universities. Ibandan fluked through - quick on the buzzer.

And kenya best university remain UON = the mother and father of all universities in kenya.

Obaaderemi2:
They beat your University 720 against 610, over a hundred points and you call that a fluke. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:47pm On Jan 01, 2023
rvp2018:
Obama
Nobel Laurate Martha Wangari - 1st African woman to win a Nobel

Notable recipients include Kenya's Wangari Maathai, the first African female and first environmentalist to win the Nobel Prize; Mahmoud Mamdani, a prominent Ugandan academic listed in the top 100 list of public intellectuals by Prospect Magazine; and George Saitoti, a former vice president of Kenya. Other notable recipients include[3][4][5][6][7]

Academia and education
Prof. Leah Marangu (Former Vice Chancellor of African Nazarene University)
Prof. Mahmoud Mamdani (Prominent Ugandan author and academic. Director of Makerere Institute of Social Research)
Prof. Miriam Were (Chancellor, Moi University. Winner of the Hideyo Noguchi Africa Prize)
Dr. Nathan K. Saziru (Former Professor, Ohio State University. Alumnus of Stanford University, University of Oxford)
Diplomatic service
Pamela Odede Mboya (Former Kenyan representative to UN Habitat)
Hon. Simon Thuo Kairo (First Kenyan ambassador to China)
Prof. Washington Aggrey Okumu (Kenyan diplomat, economist and politician)
Environmentalism and conservationism
Hon. Wangari Maathai (First African female and first environmentalist Nobel Prize winner)
Journalism, writing and media
Maina wa Kinyatti (Kenyan Author and Mau Mau historian. Winner of the PEN freedom to write award)
Politics, trade unionism and civil rights
Hon. Arthur Magugu (Kenyan politician and former cabinet minister)
Prof. George Saitoti (Mathematician. Former Vice President of Kenya)
Hon. Ochola Ogaye Mak'Anyengo (Kenyan trade unionist and politician)
Hon. Wilson Ndolo Ayah (Kenyan politician and former cabinet minister)
Dr. Zachary Onyonka (Kenyan politician and former cabinet minister)
Science, technology and medicine
Prof. Miriam Were (Prominent A.I.D.S. researcher. Chancellor, Moi University. Winner of the Hideyo Noguchi Africa Prize)
Dr. Ng'endo Mwangi (First Kenyan female physician. First black African student at Smith College in Massachusetts and the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York)
Prof Reuben Olembo (Kenyan scientist and environmentalist. Former Deputy Director of UNEP)
so basically none achievers
No wonder
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:49pm On Jan 01, 2023
The airlift education scholarship that changed the world.

This is where the story of America's first black president, Barack Obama, begins.

The Kenyan trade unionist turned politician Tom Mboya, who studied at Ruskin College, Oxford, wanted members of his country's government to be adequately prepared for a post-colonial Kenya.

He recognised quite early on that there were not enough professional Africans to run an efficient civil service.

To make up the shortfall, he set up a scholarship fund that would take young bright Africans to the US and Canada.

The idea was for them to acquire the necessary skills and come back to help build a new country when the white civil servants packed up and returned to Europe.

One of those students was one Barack Obama from Kogelo, near the port city of Kisumu on the shores of Lake Victoria.
Just30:
so basically none achievers
No wonder
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by cossano(m): 9:54pm On Jan 01, 2023
Did Ghana exist in 1800?!!
Just30:
Before you sent your first 3,000 which only few ended up at ivy league schools, Ghana had already used 70 years to send more than 40,000 to it
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30:
rvp2018:
The airlift education scholarship that changed the world.

This is where the story of America's first black president, Barack Obama, begins.

The Kenyan trade unionist turned politician Tom Mboya, who studied at Ruskin College, Oxford, wanted members of his country's government to be adequately prepared for a post-colonial Kenya.

He recognised quite early on that there were not enough professional Africans to run an efficient civil service.

To make up the shortfall, he set up a scholarship fund that would take young bright Africans to the US and Canada.

The idea was for them to acquire the necessary skills and come back to help build a new country when the white civil servants packed up and returned to Europe.

One of those students was one Barack Obama from Kogelo, near the port city of Kisumu on the shores of Lake Victoria.
How did Obama change the world ? The man responsible for the deaths happening in Ukraine and the one responsible for the destruction of Libya and Syria.

First off, he's not Kenyan. That's how come he became US president.
Which part of his education did he have in Kenya again? grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:59pm On Jan 01, 2023
cossano:
Did Ghana exist in 1800?!!
Yes
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx:
rvp2018:
Is she in Harvard or not.
Is she studying medicine or not.
Is she studying pre-med or not.
Is she studying biology or chemistry.

Look here slowpoke - in US pre-med is only done after you have Bsc in Biology or Chemistry.

Bottomline - if she in harvard - she is studying for biology or chemistry or some science.

Then optionally she can go for pre-med or just post-grad medicine degree.
You are indeed daft and a stubborn lover of ignorance who never wish you subject your already faulty knowledge with the right one.Pre medic program aren't a a standard degree courses or a degree qualifications, it is a foundational training that trains and equip you with medicinal degree concept. You aren't getting any award for studying premedic program , you are only getting equiped for the medicine degree training ahead. You will be learning various combine subject of what comprises medicine at its foundation.

Biological sciences or chemistry degree as a whole is a post first degree qualifications not a premedic program you idiot .
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:32pm On Jan 01, 2023
vaxx:
You are indeed daft and a stubborn lover of ignorance who never wish you subject his already faulty knowledge with the right one . Pre medic program aren't a postgraduate courses or a degree qualifications , it is a foundational training that that trains and equip you with medicinal degree . You aren't getting any award for studying premedic program , you are only getting equiped for the medicine degree
training ahead . You will be learning various combine subject of what comprises medicine at its foundation.

Biological sciences or chemistry degree as a whole is a post first degree qualifications not a premedic program you idiot .
grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 10:38pm On Jan 01, 2023
rvp2018:
We had Airtel/Zain African Challenge.
No Single Ghanian university made to semifinal. - quarters
One-year Ibandan university fluked through and won.
The rest of years - kenyans dominated
It was all kenyan team from quarter finals for donkey years.

Try something else. Kenya kids are extremely smart.
it is easy to identify our product . Some of the top finest brain from africa are Ghanaian . Be it in science or art related decipline. Apart from us having the current fourth best university in africa currently . ( This in itself placed us ahead of any Kenyan university , we are only top by egypt and south africa. Remember this is a country with only just 16 public universities and less than half of your population and we are doing wonders.

Naturally Kenyan kids lacks the correct nutritional food that will have reshaped and fashioned up their brain for future challenge but there isn't much food for such development. There is food crisis in your country which proportionally leads to stunted educational performance . We eat well here and deliver exceptional academic quality . At least UCC recent fourth best africa university point out to this.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 10:41pm On Jan 01, 2023
Just30:
grin grin
I am just suprised he is not willing to accept he is not getting it .
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30:
vaxx:
I am just suprised he is not willing to accept he is not getting it .
He's confuse by how confusing the US system can be. Pre - med is the fastest way to entering med program. Do your O-chem 1 and 2 and Physics to strengthen your application.
Get your MCAT and a good application and get into Harvard medical school

A few episodes of Grey's Anatomy could have helped him
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx:
Just30:
He's confused by how confusing the US system can be. Pre - med is the fastest way to entering med program.

A few episodes of Grey's Anatomy could have helped him
another thing is , he taught pre- med program is a full fledged four years decipline major like the normal degree. Thinking you will be getting a degree award for it. Infact in usa, it is possible to study business administration and run a medicine program as post first degree, even any courses. just a matter of some little foundational pre-medic will just kick start your efforts. And likewise you can go straight for a pre medic program just after college.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 5:04am On Jan 02, 2023
You and fellow madman keep ranting on and on. What sold you out is the allegation s/he was doing medicine in harvard as undergrad.

If he or she is in harvard - cant be studying anything pre-med or med before s/he get a first degree

https://extension.harvard.edu/academics/programs/premedical-program/#content-1
You are eligible to apply if you meet the following criteria:

Have completed a bachelor’s degree from an accredited institution.
Are a US citizen or permanent resident.
Have English language proficiency.

vaxx:
another thing is , he taught pre- med program is a full fledged four years decipline major like the normal degree. Thinking you will be getting a degree award for it. Infact in usa, it is possible to study business administration and run a medicine program as post first degree, even any courses. just a matter of some little foundational pre-medic will just kick start your efforts. And likewise you can go straight for a pre medic program just after college.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 5:06am On Jan 02, 2023
Kenya has 87 universities. Again Nigeria the main zoo represent the small zoo in west africa. Stop struggling to compete with big countries.

Kenya public sector education.

Ruto said that there are 32,594 primary schools, 10,482 secondary schools, 12 national polytechnics, 259 technical and vocational training institutions and 87 universities which shows progress in improving academic standards in the country.

vaxx:
it is easy to identify our product . Some of the top finest brain from africa are Ghanaian . Be it in science or art related decipline. Apart from us having the current fourth best university in africa currently . ( This in itself placed us ahead of any Kenyan university , we are only top by egypt and south africa. Remember this is a country with only just 16 public universities and less than half of your population and we are doing wonders.

Naturally Kenyan kids lacks the correct nutritional food that will have reshaped and fashioned up their brain for future challenge but there isn't much food for such development. There is food crisis in your country which proportionally leads to stunted educational performance . We eat well here and deliver exceptional academic quality . At least UCC recent fourth best africa university point out to this.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30:
rvp2018:
You and fellow madman keep ranting on and on. What sold you out is the allegation s/he was doing medicine in harvard as undergrad.

If he or she is in harvard - cant be studying anything pre-med or med before s/he get a first degree

https://extension.harvard.edu/academics/programs/premedical-program/#content-1
You are eligible to apply if you meet the following criteria:

Have completed a bachelor’s degree from an accredited institution.
Are a US citizen or permanent resident.
Have English language proficiency.
cry

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30:
rvp2018:
Kenya has 87 universities. Again Nigeria the main zoo represent the small zoo in west africa. Stop struggling to compete with big countries.

Kenya public sector education.

Ruto said that there are 32,594 primary schools, 10,482 secondary schools, 12 national polytechnics, 259 technical and vocational training institutions and 87 universities which shows progress in improving academic standards in the country.
I know Kenyan high school graduates will fail this first exam of first year high school in Ghana, including you. They have to answer 5 or 6 of these multi loaded questions in 2 hours.

Next time don't compare your zoo to any country in education


There are 70,000 Basic schools in Ghana
59% are govt owned.

900 secondary schools

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Obaaderemi2: 7:52am On Jan 02, 2023
rvp2018:
The next year they didnt even get thro the prelimanires - Egerton won it again in 2010. They had done it in 2008 then 2010. It really was competition btw kenya universities. Ibandan fluked through - quick on the buzzer.

And kenya best university remain UON = the mother and father of all universities in kenya.
Beating someone 720 to 610 is no fluke. And that was the first time they took part. If the show had continued, the pattern would have changed.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:51am On Jan 02, 2023
So all the ululations were because of she aced foundation courses smiley
Just30:
cry
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:52am On Jan 02, 2023
The show continued for another year.
Ibandan got whalloped by some dunderheads in Ghana.
Kenya won everything from quarters.
I know you come from a society a zoo really where lying is a virtue.


This was final show 2010
After fifteen weeks of intense brain-racking academic exercise, Egerton University of Kenya walked away with pride as the undisputed champions of the 2010 Zain Africa Challenge competition, Africa's top television quiz show

Apart from 2009 when Ibandan fluked through kenya won everything from Quarters allmost for rest of years.

Almost all finals were kenyan affair

Nairobi — It will be an all-Kenyan final at the ongoing Zain Africa Challenge.

Debutant Africa Nazarene University has already secured a slot in the final and will battle for the top position with the winner of the Sunday semi-final duel that will pit Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology against Egerton University.


Obaaderemi2:
Beating someone 720 to 610 is no fluke. And that was the first time they took part. If the show had continued, the pattern would have changed.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Obaaderemi2: 9:00am On Jan 02, 2023
rvp2018:
The show continued for another year.
Ibandan got whalloped by some dunderheads in Ghana.
Kenya won everything from quarters.
I know you come from a society a zoo really where lying is a virtue.


This was final show 2010
After fifteen weeks of intense brain-racking academic exercise, Egerton University of Kenya walked away with pride as the undisputed champions of the 2010 Zain Africa Challenge competition, Africa's top television quiz show
What lie? That your education in Kenya has failed or that the program was cancelled in 2010?

Why didn't egerton or any Kenyan University walk away with pride in 2009 when Ibadan destroyed them?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:06am On Jan 02, 2023
Show started as Celtel Africa Challenge in 2007 - The inaugural Celtel Africa Challenge ended in a photo finish with Egerton University beating Kenyatta - both are kenyan universities
2008 - kenya won - all kenyan final
Zain (Kuwait telcom) bought Celtel from the Sudan-Briton Mo Ibraham.
2009 - Ibandan won - with kenya second
2010 - kenya won - all kenyan final

Bharti Airtel (india) buys Zain Africa - and stop the shows in 2011 .

It was really embarrassing for 16 africa teams to always have kenya teams from quartes - all kenya quarters/ semi finals/ finals.

The gulf btw kenya education and Sub Sahara Africa is HUGE

Obaaderemi2:
What lie? That your education in Kenya has failed or that the program was cancelled in 2010?

Why didn't egerton or any Kenyan University walk away with pride in 2009 when Ibadan destroyed them?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:07am On Jan 02, 2023
rvp2018:
So all the ululations were because of she aced foundation courses smiley
Cry

She aced it because she had done all those things in high school here. Half of pre med school drop this class before the exams
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:08am On Jan 02, 2023
That makes her achievement even more remarkable smiley smiley
Just30:
Cry

She aced it because she had done all those things in high school here
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:09am On Jan 02, 2023
rvp2018:
That makes her achievement even more remarkable smiley smiley
half of pre med school drop the class before even the exams starts.
It takes good grounding
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:13am On Jan 02, 2023
Definitely if they are airheads from Ghana.
Just30:
half of pre med school drop the class before even the exams starts.
It takes good grounding
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:15am On Jan 02, 2023
rvp2018:
Definitely if they are airheads from Ghana.
well the are not but they drop out of it because it is too rigorous grin grin
No wonder Kenyans steer far away from it for concert programs
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:22am On Jan 02, 2023
https://www.kensap.org/harvard-college

KenSAP helps high-achieving, low-income Kenyan high school graduates gain admission to the most selective colleges and universities in North America, all with full financial aid. Since its founding in 2004, the organization has placed 259 students at the institutions listed below.

259 ADMISSIONS
Harvard (25), Yale (16), Princeton (13), U. Penn (13), Brown (11), Middlebury (11), Amherst (9), Cornell (9), Dartmouth (cool, Williams (cool, Bowdoin (6), Tufts (6), Wesleyan (6), Lehigh (6), MIT (6), Smith (6), Stanford (6), Colby (5), Hamilton (5), Northwestern (5), Brandeis (4), Duke (4), Bates (4), Davidson (4), Bryn Mawr (3), Columbia (3), U. Toronto (3), Barnard (2), Haverford (2), Kenyon (2), Mt. Holyoke (2), Pomona (2), St. Lawrence (2), Swarthmore (2), Vassar (2), Carleton (1), Connecticut Col. (1), Gettysburg (1), Johns Hopkins (1), Macalester (1), McGill (1), Michigan State (1), NYU (1), Oberlin (1), Rhodes (1), Rice (1), U. Chicago (1), U. Rochester (1), U. Wisconsin (1), Vanderbilt (1), Wellesley (1), Wooster (1)

Just30:
well the are not but they drop out of it because it is too rigorous grin grin
No wonder Kenyans steer far away from it for concert programs
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Obaaderemi2: 9:24am On Jan 02, 2023
Just30:
well the are not but they drop out of it because it is too rigorous grin grin
No wonder Kenyans steer far away from it for concert programs
grin
Kenyans are not good at science subjects.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:25am On Jan 02, 2023
What is the basis of this claim?
Obaaderemi2:
grin
Kenyans are not good at science subjects.
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