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It is good to know the history behind December 25th festivities. History is very, very important. Knowing the past helps you forge ahead successfully towards the future.

The history behind December 25th confirms the fact that Jesus wasn't born on that day. However, it is okay to celebrate his birth on any day you choose. *But please, don't you think it is better to know his actual birthday? Would you not want to know your own actual birthday?* This is where the beauty of the revelations in the Urantia Book comes in. *Jesus was born at noon, August 21, 7 BC.* (See Paper 122:8.1) ��✨���

NB:
7 BC is used because the date was backdated 7 years. Those who came up with the BC and AD timeline missed the calculation by 7 years. This is why the Revelators of the Urantia Book had to backdate the Master's birthday to fall in line with the actual year he was born.

*In other words, Jesus was actually born 7 years before the date (or year) that the Roman Catholic Church selected - The date they selected based on their research. They missed it by 7 years.*[24/12, 19:45] +1 (301) 806-0911: *The Birth of Jesus*

All that night Mary was restless so that neither of them slept much. By the break of day the pangs of childbirth were well in evidence, and at noon, August 21, 7 b.c., with the help and kind ministrations of women fellow travelers, Mary was delivered of a male child. Jesus of Nazareth was born into the world, was wrapped in the clothes which Mary had brought along for such a possible contingency, and laid in a near-by manger.

In just the same manner as all babies before that day and since have come into the world, the promised child was born; and on the eighth day, according to the Jewish practice, he was circumcised and formally named Joshua (Jesus).

*Source:* Part IV of the Urantia Book, "The Life and Teachings of Jesus", Paper 122:8.1-2
[24/12, 19:48] +1 (301) 806-0911: Now, someone may ask me: Do you celebrate Christmas on the 25th of December? �

My response is simple: I celebrate the birth of Jesus on the 21st of August. However, on the 25th of December, I celebrate � with those who celebrate on that day. ✨���

Celebrate lies as the truth is unknown!

michael132:
In just the same manner as all babies before that day and since have come into the world, the promised child was born; and on the eighth day, according to the Jewish practice, he was circumcised and formally named Joshua (Jesus).

*Source:* Part IV of the Urantia Book, "The Life and Teachings of Jesus", Paper 122:8.1-2
[24/12, 19:48] +1 (301) 806-0911: Now, someone may ask me: Do you celebrate Christmas on the 25th of December? �

My response is simple: I celebrate the birth of Jesus on the 21st of August. However, on the 25th of December, I celebrate � with those who celebrate on that day. ✨���

So long as Jesus Christ never commanded your celebration, what you do is pagan in origin. The date isn't what is pagan. Instead, the practice is, and given that Jesus Christ never asked His disciples to use His name for such celebration, you sin against God when you pretend your celebrations honors God.

Merry Christmas!

Kobojunkiee:
So long as Jesus Christ never commanded your celebration, what you do is pagan in origin. The date isn't what is pagan. Instead, the practice is, and given that Jesus Christ never asked His disciples to use His name for such celebration, you sin against God when you pretend your celebrations honors God.

Merry Christmas!

what if the practice is not in line with pegan practice..but purely practice of a Christian like nature..

michael132:
what if the practice is not in line with pegan practice..but purely practice of a Christian like nature..

So long as a practice does not originate from God Himself it is Pagan. Your celebration of Jesus Christ's birthday is Pagan because God never asked you to do any such thing --- there is nothing of God or godly of it, even if in your mind you choose to pretend there is.

Kobojunkiee:
So long as a practice does not originate from God Himself it is Pagan. Your celebration of Jesus Christ's birthday is Pagan because God never asked you to do any such thing --- there is nothing of God or godly of it, even if in your mind you choose to pretend there is.

I think as a free will spirit..we have the gift to choose..even God sometimes expect us to decide n follow what it good.

michael132:
I think as a free will spirit..we have the gift to choose..even God sometimes expect us to decide n follow what it good.

You are free to choose but you are not free to use God's name as endorsement for your freedoms. That is why God gave you His Law, Jesus Christ, to define what you can or can't do in His name.

Kobojunkiee:
You are free to choose but you are not free to use God's name as endorsement for your freedoms. That is why God gave you His Law, Jesus Christ, to define what you can or can't do in His name.

where do you worship ? U are sound .

michael132:
where do you worship ? U are sound .

To worship/serve God simply means to live one's life in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments in Jesus Christ. That is the mandate given by God to man, this since even the time of Adam. And since Jesus Christ made it known that God is the only teacher to those who belong to Him, I am not bound to any man or organization out there. Wherever I go, He is with me and He teaches me His Law and Truth, freeing me from the religion of men which only serves to keep men shackled to their fellow men.

[Like wise me .am adherent to d grail message quote author=Kobojunkiee post=119450802] To worship/serve God simply means to live one's life in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments in Jesus Christ. That is the mandate given by God to man, this since even the time of Adam. And since Jesus Christ made it known that God is the only teacher to those who belong to Him, I am not bound to any man or organization out there. Wherever I go, He is with me and He teaches me His Law and Truth, freeing me from the religion of men which only serves to keep men shackled to their fellow men. [/quote]

michael132:
what if the practice is not in line with pegan practice..but purely practice of a Christian like nature..

Do you expect masqueraders to be practice of Christian like nature?

Well if God's servants don't celebrate birthdays then birthday celebration in itself is pagan custom!

michael132:
[Like wise me .am adherent to d grail message

How do you figure that the grail message is the same message that is Jesus Christ?

Is the same message ..I have read and examined it myself

Kobojunkiee:
How do you figure that the grail message is the same message that is Jesus Christ?

michael132:
Is the same message ..I have read and examined it myself

What same message? How did you "examine it"?

michael132:
Is the same message ..I have read and examined it myself

By what parameters where you able to conclude they are one and the same message?

Celebrate if you want, the Bible didn't noted it that such day is a sub or must not be celebrated. Not everything is written in the book anyways...

If you have a problem with it, rest! I have seen the past, and if you don't believe it, rest...

Stephenmoka4:
■Celebrate if you want, the Bible didn't noted it that such day is a sub or must not be celebrated. Not everything is written in the book anyways...

■If you have a problem with it, rest! I have seen the past, and if you don't believe it, rest...

1. So never mind the fact that Jesus Christ condemns the use of His name for that which He has not commanded, you are saying instead it is OK to go ahead and celebrate a pagan holiday using the name of Jesus Christ?

2. So, because you believe you have seen the past, it is then OK for people to disobey Jesus Christ's commands?

Kobojunkie:
1. So never mind the fact that Jesus Christ condemns the use of His name for that which He has not commanded, you are saying instead it is OK to go ahead and celebrate a pagan holiday using the name of Jesus Christ?

2. So, because you believe you have seen the past, it is then OK for people to disobey Jesus Christ's commands?

Were someeone not among his 12 preaching in his name! There is time for everything? Did he say we all shouldn't? We celebrate him everyday, Is he the first person that has done his birthday? did God punish or disband anyone who did? if you don't like it, pass...

Stephenmoka4:
■ Were someeone not among his 12 preaching in his name! There is time for everything?
■Did he say we all shouldn't? We celebrate him everyday,
■Is he the first person that has done his birthday?
■ did God punish or disband anyone who did? if you don't like it, pass...

1. Again, you are telling people that it is OK to use the name of Jesus Christ for that which has nothing to do with Jesus Christ and His teachings and commandments?

2. According to Jesus Christ, the only way you can celebrate Him is to trust and obey His actual commandments and teachings. What you are saying is that Jesus Christ was wrong and that people should engage in pagan rituals using His name.

3. So, because God's judgment will not come on those who disobey His Law, Jesus Christ, until after Jesus Christ returns, you are saying it is then OK to disobey Jesus Christ?

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, you are telling people that it is OK to use the name of Jesus Christ for that which has nothing to do with Jesus Christ and His teachings and commandments?

2. According to Jesus Christ, the only way you can celebrate Him is to trust and obey His actual commandments and teachings. What you are saying is that Jesus Christ was wrong and that people should engage in pagan rituals using His name.

3. So, because God's judgment will not come on those who disobey His Law, Jesus Christ, until after Jesus Christ returns, you are saying it is then OK to disobey Jesus Christ?

It is very much okay, Jesus did not say otherwise. I am not saying he is wrong, you are... And God is not against it either.

Stephenmoka4:
It is very much okay, Jesus did not say otherwise. I am not saying he is wrong, you are... And God is not against it either.

Jesus Christ cursed all those who will come using His name to sell lies, going as far as to label them thieves who come to steal, kill and destroy. Are you saying Jesus is right, but I am wrong for asserting that which Jesus Christ said? Are you saying that God is not against either what Jesus Christ said, and that which is against Jesus Christ which you instead stand for? Please, see the meaning of confusion!