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Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Shyne2019(m): 7:58am On Jan 06, 2023
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Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Timothyoj(m): 8:04am On Jan 06, 2023
HydraFeeds:
In as much as I detest debt ,it’s not really a bad thing if the money borrowed is invested on infrastructure that’s capable of generating returns.

USA is a model country but with a debt of 31 trillion dollars .

China debt is about 24 trillion dollars.
But their infrastructure and fast development shows and proves the worth of the borrowing unlike Nigeria.....!
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by fizzy6341: 8:05am On Jan 06, 2023
NL is so biased towards APC and PDP...Great move from OBidients
daisidgreat72: Monopoly of Nairaland is finally over

Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Tony4000: 8:13am On Jan 06, 2023
Naija politics be like comedy show.. even Abia state follow day on debt..wetin Okezie Okpeazu and his predecessors use d money do abeg.. lol
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Jking20(m): 8:18am On Jan 06, 2023
What else do one expect if not all the G-5 Governors
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by HydraFeeds(m): 8:33am On Jan 06, 2023
Timothyoj:
But their infrastructure and fast development shows and proves the worth of the borrowing unlike Nigeria.....!
Nigeria debt is about 44 trillion Naira and we’re a developing country while USA debt is about 31 trillion dollars and a developed country . Maybe by the time we borrow up to 31 trillion dollars our country would have been developed as theirs as well . Just saying .
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Echoban: 8:35am On Jan 06, 2023
another1:
Nigeria as a country has a long way to go.
What's lagos government doing with all the taxes here and there for God sake.
Same thing USA is doing with her taxes. So as lagos dey u no dey see wetin Demn dey use money do. Just tell us ure zombidence without telling us .
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by freemanq(m): 8:36am On Jan 06, 2023
Set of bad leaders stealing mass fund and thought their household will enjoy the money they stole
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Skty: 8:37am On Jan 06, 2023
udeh3:
Don't mind them. Lagos is owing over 1tr debt cumulatively. Lagos has no domestic airport, no standard stadium, no too many good state owned hospitals with that number of population, etc. Thank God for Ambode. He never took any foreign loan, yet, his projects were massive and most were executed, but was kicked out cos he's not servicing some persons. Meaning BAT, Fashola and Sonwolu compounded those debt. With the massive debt, Lagos has the least roads in Nigeria

It's takes an economic genius to run a state without borrowing, not to talk of savings. This is what Obi did. Obaseki is following the trend.
U said it all......don't have anything to add.
And these urchins will be hyping nonsense

Obaseki's state not there.. the man na technocrat
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Henryfortune(m): 8:40am On Jan 06, 2023
Akfrenzy:
grin The data further shows that Lagos has the highest debt, with N877.04bn domestic debt and $1.27bn foreign debt.

It is followed by Kaduna, with a domestic debt of N86.86bn and external debt of $586.78m.


They'll still have the Temerity to tell u to go and vote another CALAMITY bcuz they see Nigerians as brain dead people and 3rd world country mentality is really playing a huge factor



LET'S VOTE WISELY 2023 ,a new Nigeria is POssible
Did you also forget to add this or you just want to be like this.... Lagos is not good yet you still refused to relocate back to your own state...



“Apart from that, people say Lagos State debt is high but the problem is not the high domestic or foreign debts but what they are used for. The United States of America has the highest debt profile in the world, yet many are flocking there. To borrow money to pay salaries is bad but to borrow it to fund projects that will generate revenue and provide jobs is good...
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Crownhome(m): 9:30am On Jan 06, 2023
Thank God oooh
Ondo state no dey do borrow borrow
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Reference(m): 9:35am On Jan 06, 2023
Focusmind:
There is nothing wrong with borrowing. When I was in the banking industry, I fought for my bank to approve N3.5m for my cousin in 2009, who was struggling in his business at Tradefair complex. Within a period of one year, he paid off the loans and interest and scaled up his business big time. He is doing extremely well now, with two personal houses at Amuwo Odofin, Lagos. He doesn't joke with me as I was instrumental to his success.

However, in Nigeria, the value for money borrowed is nothing to write home about. The value of physical projects and what the loans were used falls short of the total loans.

Most of all these gigantic loans were used to build public toilets, low quality primary health centers, recurrent expenditure and white elephant projects.
This is not what credible and responsible citizenship should say particularly in a country like Nigeria where leadership qualities are severely lacking and at this time when the nation is in a debt crises. The leaders simply read into this and progress in error.

For this country at this time we the people should be resisting collectively and absolutely so that leaders start to think outside the box on how to run the economy, so that they consider other ways and means and so that they reconsider the way they presently spend which is not entirely transparent and prudent.

In other climes expenditure is watched at every instance and big budget projects (whether recurrent or capital) are thoroughly debated and vetted by parliament on behalf of the people before considerations are made to put the taxpayer under more burden. They don't just give their leaders and governments blank cheques to borrow wily-nily because they know the implications on inflation (which borrowing stokes) and thus the devaluation of assets, rising domestic interest rates, job losses and poverty.

I think the more the citizens are burdened and impoverished, the more they will have to learn and educate themselves on how economies work and thus how to better direct government and select leadership that take these things with utmost seriousness.

Till today and just weeks to a general election not a single candidate for the 2023 presidency has suggested not to talk of profered detailed solutions to our steaming macro economic challenges. It appears (like we always do) we will elect leadership that will come to 'learn on the job'.
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by HellVictorinho6(m): 9:55am On Jan 06, 2023
HydraFeeds:
In as much as I detest debt ,it’s not really a bad thing if the money borrowed is invested on infrastructure that’s capable of generating returns.

USA is a model country but with a debt of 31 trillion dollars .

China debt is about 24 trillion dollars.
But this is Nigeria
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by HellVictorinho6(m): 10:01am On Jan 06, 2023
Reference:
This is not what credible and responsible citizenship should say particularly in a country like Nigeria where leadership qualities are severely lacking and at this time when the nation is in a debt crises. The leaders simply read into this and progress in error.

For this country at this time we the people should be resisting collectively and absolutely so that leaders start to think outside the box on how to run the economy, so that they consider other ways and means and so that they reconsider the way they presently spend which is not entirely transparent and prudent.

In other climes expenditure is watched at every instance and big budget projects (whether recurrent or capital) are thoroughly debated and vetted by parliament on behalf of the people before considerations are made to put the taxpayer under more burden. They don't just give their leaders and governments blank cheques to borrow wily-nily because they know the implications on inflation (which borrowing stokes) and thus the devaluation of assets, rising domestic interest rates, job losses and poverty.

I think the more the citizens are burdened and impoverished, the more they will have to learn and educate themselves on how economies work and thus how to better direct government and select leadership that take these things with utmost seriousness.

Till today and just weeks to a general election not a single candidate for the 2023 presidency has suggested not to talk of profered detailed solutions to our steaming macro economic challenges. It appears (like we always do) we will elect leadership that will come to 'learn on the job'.
I honestly can't say you're saying anything but pure nonsense


The more the poverty.......,say no more.



Poverty is useless.


There's nothing like learning how anything works through poverty.

The necessity to learn because of poverty is not what is required to leave poverty.

To leave poverty...., the necessity has to be destroyed.


Poverty has to be destroyed.

Nothing useful happens through poverty.

The necessity is worthless.


If you like ....., consider this as an empty response,

If you like.. .,threaten to arrest me or kill me,



If you like.....,call this a joke,


Whatever you do

Whatever will happen


Poverty is useless


If you're not just hopelessly confused..., you won't continue to see poverty as necessary for whatever reason.

Damn,!!!!!
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Coolgent(m): 10:06am On Jan 06, 2023
Banbutton:
I see bastards coming here to blame our incoming president ASIWAJU BOLA AHMED TINUBU...
Lagos will always be a class on its own.
The USA of the world.

Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by nairamaniac: 10:07am On Jan 06, 2023
HydraFeeds:
In as much as I detest debt ,it’s not really a bad thing if the money borrowed is invested on infrastructure that’s capable of generating returns.

USA is a model country but with a debt of 31 trillion dollars .

China debt is about 24 trillion dollars.
See, I actually believe that USA is misleading the entire world to follow their path of borrowing money excessively.


USA may not have needed these funds as borrowed funds.

This is a country that seems to have dollars as an Export -commodity. Also, they actually print dollars to inject into their economy when needed.

Somethings don't seem to add up here concerning
USA debt, borrowing and how flexible their economy-policies are.
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Banbutton: 10:08am On Jan 06, 2023
[quote author=Coolgent post=119763731][/quote]Your head is there
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Sonn(m): 10:17am On Jan 06, 2023
When you talk about Lagos' BAT supporters comes after you taking it personal without adequate comprehension, Lagos State is still the richest state in Nigeria, the money generated by the state on daily basis is more than what a particular state can generates in a month, but here they are as biggest debtor, Lagos is so rich that it can carry the burdens of the whole of South-west region if property and judiciously managed, but someone somewhere is milking the state and people are okay with that, Lagos that is supposed to be a money lender to other states, we are crying about the situation of things in our country whereas we are not even ready to fix the country, no wonder a man once said that' NIGERIANS DOESN'T HATE BAD LEADERS' THEY ONLY WANT THE BAD LEADERS TO COME FROM THEIR TRIBE...
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Sonn(m): 10:19am On Jan 06, 2023
post=119758262:
There was a nation!!!
my bro, is that all you can say?
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by HydraFeeds(m): 10:22am On Jan 06, 2023
nairamaniac:
See, I actually believe that USA is misleading the entire world to follow their path of borrowing money excessively.


USA may not have needed these funds as borrowed funds.

This is a country that seems to have dollars as an Export -commodity. Also, they actually print dollars to inject into their economy when needed.

Somethings don't seem to add up here concerning
USA debt, borrowing and how flexible their economy-policies are.
the truth is that there are many governments actions that we do not know their end points but I don’t think a reasonable man will burn his own house just to spite the visitor or cut his head off just to spite headache .

USA embarked on a lot of “do and let them see me “ projects like NATO armaments and Uncle Sam behaviors as a superpower to many smaller countries like installation of Africom in Africa . USA was literally handing checks to their citizens during Covid 19 and still give disable people upkeep checks . The funds will come from somewhere .

About export of Dollars ,there are many people involved in arbitration that’s why Nigeria banks stopped foreign used of their cards . And printing of more dollars will lead to inflation.
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by ZooOga: 10:30am On Jan 06, 2023
Good luck to my fellow researchers looking to verify Punch's newspaper estimates via the Debt Management Office. The stats that they reference are not readily located on - https://www.dmo.gov.ng/ huh

https://www.dmo.gov.ng/
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by HydraFeeds(m): 11:04am On Jan 06, 2023
HellVictorinho6:
But this is Nigeria
Nigeria debt is just 44 trillion Naira compared to 31 trillion dollars of USA
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by nairamaniac: 11:09am On Jan 06, 2023
HydraFeeds:
the truth is that there are many governments actions that we do not know their end points but I don’t think a reasonable man will burn his own house just to spite the visitor or cut his head off just to spite headache .

USA embarked on a lot of “do and let them see me “ projects like NATO armaments and Uncle Sam behaviors as a superpower to many smaller countries like installation of Africom in Africa . USA was literally handing checks to their citizens during Covid 19 and still give disable people upkeep checks . The funds will come from somewhere .

About export of Dollars ,there are many people involved in arbitration that’s why Nigeria banks stopped foreign used of their cards . And printing of more dollars will lead to inflation.
That's the point, at first bolded. They are not burning their house at the end of the day.
They are doing just very well upon the excessing borrowings and debts.

At second bolded, some countries especially US can get away with printing of more dollars and getting away with it.

Have you heard of QUANTITATIVE EASING(QE)?

It has to do with some policies&activities by the federal government that indirectly leads to printing of dollars to ease things up in USA.

It's one of the policies Tinubu has been talking about as at years ago.
But he has never mentioned it again from the moment he started campaigning.
Perhaps he doesn't want to received the backlash he received then when he talked about implementing it if he becomes the president.

The US Can get away with it very very well.

Dollars is a Scarse commodity in third world countries. Nigeria just recently joined those countries during Buhari's regime.

Also the opec is obligated to trade their crude oil in DOLLARS. Even to non-dollar buyers if the crude oil.


It was a past signed between USA and Saudi Arabia many many years ago.

See, the USA would never crash no matter how much dollar they print, as long as they regulate it's SENSIBLE USAGE and POLICIES to Avoid SIDE EFFECTS.
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by HydraFeeds(m): 11:35am On Jan 06, 2023
nairamaniac:
That's the point, at first bolded. They are not burning their house at the end of the day.
They are doing just very well upon the excessing borrowings and debts.

At second bolded, some countries especially US can get away with printing of more dollars and getting away with it.

Have you heard of QUANTITATIVE EASING(QE)?

It has to do with some policies&activities by the federal government that indirectly leads to printing of dollars to ease things up in USA.

It's one of the policies Tinubu has been talking about as at years ago.
But he has never mentioned it again from the moment he started campaigning.
Perhaps he doesn't want to received the backlash he received then when he talked about implementing it if he becomes the president.

The US Can get away with it very very well.

Dollars is a Scarse commodity in third world countries. Nigeria just recently joined those countries during Buhari's regime.

Also the opec is obligated to trade their crude oil in DOLLARS. Even to non-dollar buyers if the crude oil.


It was a past signed between USA and Saudi Arabia many many years ago.

See, the USA would never crash no matter how much dollar they print, as long as they regulate it's SENSIBLE USAGE and POLICIES to Avoid SIDE EFFECTS.
I see sense in the US Quantitative Easing though it didn’t work in other countries like Japan ,UK and Switzerland but the problem is why loan if government can run a surplus budget ?
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Nobody: 11:36am On Jan 06, 2023
When you take away the consequences of decision making , making any bad decision becomes very easy. The ways and means system of advances to govt is the catalyst fueling these high debts in the country. The new finance act empowers govts to borrow without accountability, we shall see more debts pilling up.
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by nairamaniac: 11:54am On Jan 06, 2023
HydraFeeds:
I see sense in the US Quantitative Easing though it didn’t work in other countries like Japan ,UK and Switzerland but the problem is why loan if government can run a surplus budget ?
To encourage others to loan and become indebted and inferior.

That's the answer.


USA can pay up those loans within 30years.
They didn't even need to have owed that much in the first place.
The money they make alone from countries they protect in lieu of NATO and EU is enough to have prevented them from needed those loans.

They are the biggest contractors in a lot of countries just becos of WORLD POWER presence in those countries.
I'm telling you, alot of things here don't add up with US, the debts and what they actually can do.
This is beyond the fundamental arbitrage.
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by HellVictorinho6(m): 12:02pm On Jan 06, 2023
HydraFeeds:
Nigeria debt is just 44 trillion Naira compared to 31 trillion dollars of USA
No need for comparing Naija to US


On top wetin?

What economics?

Which politics?
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by HydraFeeds(m): 12:36pm On Jan 06, 2023
nairamaniac:
To encourage others to loan and become indebted and inferior.

That's the answer.


USA can pay up those loans within 30years.
They didn't even need to have owed that much in the first place.
The money they make alone from countries they protect in lieu of NATO and EU is enough to have prevented them from needed those loans.

They are the biggest contractors in a lot of countries just becos of WORLD POWER presence in those countries.
I'm telling you, alot of things here don't add up with US, the debts and what they actually can do.
This is beyond the fundamental arbitrage.
it’s a credible hypothesis but still a hypothesis.
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by OVB123: 2:54pm On Jan 06, 2023
another1:
Nigeria as a country has a long way to go.
What's lagos government doing with all the taxes here and there for God sake.
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by Poleski:
There's nothing wrong with borrowing, but the problem is that crooked Nigerian politicians usually start useless projects to steal money, and they usually inflate the cost of the projects by three to have a lot to loot. For instance, if a project were to cost ₦2 billion, they would inflate it to ₦8 billion or more!

We should stop supporting criminals to rule us. We need to vote wisely this time! Peter Obi is the best candidate for a better Nigeria. He's the only politician in Nigeria who didn't steal while in office and has challenged anyone who thinks otherwise to provide evidence, and if the evidence is legit, he'll end his campaign. Tinubu and Atiku can't do this because they're very corrupt!

Peter Obi is the only politician in the history of this country who rejected his pension and gratuity after leaving office. Tinubu and his kids have been milking Lagos financially since he left office. Atiku has been receiving his pension as a former VP.

The difference is very clear. Vote wisely!
Re: 28 Governors Pile Up ₦‎5.8 Trillion Debts For Incoming Governments by udeh3(m):
Skty:
U said it all......don't have anything to add.
And these urchins will be hyping nonsense

Obaseki's state not there.. the man na technocrat
I was in Edo State throughout the Christmas period. There's a gas power station built and fully functional in Ologbo to generate and supply power to the people of Edo State constantly. They're churning out transformers.

There's now what is called 'CENTRAL PARK'. He built a central park system where all route and location anywhere in Benin can be accessed even if it's your first time in the state.

Our problem is, we're use to bad government and when we see those who are really working and focusing on people's oriented projects, we barely acknowledge them. Just like people don't understand what Obi did in Anambra state, because he didn't build flyovers that don't give employment but ego to the governor, or didn't commission markets, rather focused on education and health care

The numbers of employment the Edo State government made were very encouraging. The process was almost perfect. The requirements was decent too

I grew up in Benin, but left for Lagos many year ago, coming back, I'm impressed, but a lot still needs to be done

I can't even talk about my own state, Delta State. The government is almost a curse to Deltans
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