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POKUASI2:
so much money yet his mom was homeless not long ago and was crying for help..
The father had so much money that he was in a single with no toilet and linking his girlfriend to men to sleep with for survival.

These deluded slugs here with degraded intellect think they're they smartest ..
See the same poor hungry some mumu claim his father is rich

I actually told you I don't do bedroom woman gossips. Shatta wale is from a wealthy background, but a street boy from beginning. If you doubt , read about his father . It is available online .

When it comes to drama , the stage drama existed in Ghana way before Nigeria and there are some historical fact to back it up. Home video cinema started in Nigeria .

This is herbert ogunde( one of the known Nigeria Yoruba oldest poineer stage actor) he came to Ghana and was highly influence by the culture that he has to include it in his drama and music concept .


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Shaytun:
I don’t subscribe to this thought of downgrading our own homegrown genre and elevating a foreign genre.

Rap is a foreign genre, no matter how talented African Rapper are, they can never surpass the American.

I really don't care. raps belong to Black americans hence africans . If you are not cherokee Americana , every blacks in america are africans by heritage.

We are in a globalized village , everybody can copy anything and master it better . The gun bullet was introduced in china but america had perfected it better than them .

IGpro1:
Imagine! What got me really pisse.d was the way the Vaxx guy took the record label thing as if na record label they sing. Went as far as saying, our musicians that became popular had one or two Ghanians helping them.
Such baseless claims.

it is because you are blind reader, there is no place I made mentioned in my write up that Ghanaian are helping Nigeria musicians . I only made mentioned that many known stars in Nigeria had a serious collaboration with Ghanaian counterpart.

Talent exist but it is record label that will identify you and brush up your talent in a multi talented country like Nigeria .

When it comes to musical talent , it is very noticeable among rappers than afropop singers . It is not easy to twist tongues and have lots of bars coming out in a nano time

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Shaytun:
The issue of building factory’s and stimulating the production economy should be left to the private sector.

Government have no business building factories.

Government role is to create an enabling environment, when you have an enabling environment, private sector will blossom , it’s the law of the universe.

Government need to build those roads, they need to build that rail, they need to solve the electricity issue and ensure security of lives.

They need to do away with contradicting policies.

The rest will fall into place, the revolution in the telecommunications and banking sector was not because the government invested into it, it was because they made the right policies and everything else follows. The private sector will pick up the slack, Nigeria 200 million population is a huge market be it for production or consumption, let the government create an enabling environment and watch a renaissance happen to the economy.

First of all, establishing an industry is different from building factories.

When Morroco was going to start pulling itself out of poverty, the king and his cabinet focused on certain industries, real estate and textiles were among. Same goes for Bangladesh especially. Nigeria can do same. Not building factories but stimulating capacity in certain industries. The government can create a hub, invite major international players in such industries such as clothing and shoes mass production, and take stakes in such companies through investments arranged through commercial banks or through such sweetness as tax exemptions for a certain period of years. To put up basic facilities for such hubs would cost money but not as high as building a bridge we could ill afford, thereby digging ourselves into debts and still failing to create jobs or grow the economy. With time you'll see how well developed the economy and society would be when such industries take on a life of their own.

Even if you create an enabling environment in a place like Nigeria the private sector would still move slowly because of paucity of funds unless the government stimulate certain industries it has picked with funds.

Let me give you the example of South Korea. The chaebols which later became the big multinationals you see today were all tiny family businesses beforer the Korean war. With American aid and grants after the war the government invested in those companies. Some went into electronics, others into car manufacturing. Samsung was a playing card business until then I think.
The government gave Hyundai money and pushed its owner into building ships which it had never done until then, today it's one of the biggest in that industry.

Or is it the Chinese phone and electronics companies we want to talk about? It is heavily government influenced. Why can't we do similar things in Africa?

I go to places like Osun state and I see shiny new roads and structures that would soon become descrepit with billions wasted while their people are hungry and jobless. Seyi Makinde spent #28bn naira providing street lights in Oyo State powered with diesel. One year after it's hardly functioning. Now imagine if he had spent#14bn creating a food processing and packaging hub in Oyo State. YNorth is a small shoemaking business in Ibadan. The guy's shoes and shirt rival what we import from Italy. Why not create a hub for such people and invest heavily in their businesses. Now the governor has started work on a 110km Ibadan Circular Road.
And we keep complaining about lack of jobs. All the roads Aregberascal built in Osun, how have they stimulated growth of Osun?

Or should I give you the example of Volkswagen which is today Europe's biggest carmaker and how Hitler started it by deducting workers salaries? (Hitler madman)

We don't have the luxury of the American model to follow in Africa. America has a rich private investment culture that Africa and Asia lack. That's why China and Korea didn't follow such models at the initial stage. If Africa is going to rise the government has to be involved in industries, not just trying to create enabling environments and then sitting on their dicks waiting for investors to come. The government's business must be business.

vaxx:
When it comes to drama , the stage drama existed in Ghana way before Nigeria and there are some historical fact to back it up. Home video cinema started in Nigeria .

This is herbert ogunde( one of the known Nigeria Yoruba oldest poineer stage actor) he came to Ghana and was highly influence by the culture that he has to include it in his drama and music concept .


Ghanaian are the only type of people with
this kind of drums

Obaaderemi2:
First of all, establishing an industry is different from building factories.

When Morroco was going to start pulling itself out of poverty, the king and his cabinet focused on certain industries, real estate and textiles were among. Same goes for Bangladesh especially. Nigeria can do same. Not building factories but stimulating capacity in certain industries. The government can create a hub, invite major international players in such industries such as clothing and shoes mass production, and take stakes in such companies through investments arranged through commercial banks or through such sweetness as tax exemptions for a certain period of years. To put up basic facilities for such hubs would cost money but not as high as building a bridge we could ill afford, thereby digging ourselves into debts and still failing to create jobs or grow the economy. With time you'll see how well developed the economy and society would be when such industries take on a life of their own.

Even if you create an enabling environment in a place like Nigeria the private sector would still move slowly because of paucity of funds unless the government stimulate certain industries it has picked with funds.

Let me give you the example of South Korea. The chaebols which later became the big multinationals you see today were all tiny family businesses beforer the Korean war. With American aid and grants after the war the government invested in those companies. Some went into electronics, others into car manufacturing. Samsung was a playing card business until then I think.
The government gave Hyundai money and pushed its owner into building ships which it had never done until then, today it's one of the biggest in that industry.

Or is it the Chinese phone and electronics companies we want to talk about? It is heavily government influenced. Why can't we do similar things in Africa?

I go to places like Osun state and I see shiny new roads and structures that would soon become descrepit with billions wasted while their people are hungry and jobless. Seyi Makinde spent #28bn naira providing street lights in Oyo State powered with diesel. One year after it's hardly functioning. Now imagine if he had spent#14bn creating a food processing and packaging hub in Oyo State. YNorth is a small shoemaking business in Ibadan. The guy's shoes and shirt rival what we import from Italy. Why not create a hub for such people and invest heavily in their businesses. Now the governor has started work on a 110km Ibadan Circular Road.
And we keep complaining about lack of jobs. All the roads Aregberascal built in Osun, how have they stimulated growth of Osun?

Or should I give you the example of Volkswagen which is today Europe's biggest carmaker and how Hitler started it by deducting workers salaries? (Hitler madman)

We don't have the luxury of the American model to follow in Africa. America has a rich private investment culture that Africa and Asia lack. That's why China and Korea didn't follow such models at the initial stage. If Africa is going to rise the government has to be involved in industries, not just trying to create enabling environments and then sitting on their dicks waiting for investors to come. The government's business must be business.

I agree the Government must be involved in the industry too and that is the socio-capitalist system or PPP (if you prefer). However, in this PPP you'll also agree that the private sector should dominate either at the onset or most importantly after the simulation of the Federal Government.
Federal Government should however dominate in the areas of Road, Electricity, and stuff like that to make the environment conducive for investors.

Obaaderemi2:
First of all, establishing an industry is different from building factories.

When Morroco was going to start pulling itself out of poverty, the king and his cabinet focused on certain industries, real estate and textiles were among. Same goes for Bangladesh especially. Nigeria can do same. Not building factories but stimulating capacity in certain industries. The government can create a hub, invite major international players in such industries such as clothing and shoes mass production, and take stakes in such companies through investments arranged through commercial banks or through such sweetness as tax exemptions for a certain period of years. To put up basic facilities for such hubs would cost money but not as high as building a bridge we could ill afford, thereby digging ourselves into debts and still failing to create jobs or grow the economy. With time you'll see how well developed the economy and society would be when such industries take on a life of their own.

Even if you create an enabling environment in a place like Nigeria the private sector would still move slowly because of paucity of funds unless the government stimulate certain industries it has picked with funds.

Let me give you the example of South Korea. The chaebols which later became the big multinationals you see today were all tiny family businesses beforer the Korean war. With American aid and grants after the war the government invested in those companies. Some went into electronics, others into car manufacturing. Samsung was a playing card business until then I think.
The government gave Hyundai money and pushed its owner into building ships which it had never done until then, today it's one of the biggest in that industry.

Or is it the Chinese phone and electronics companies we want to talk about? It is heavily government influenced. Why can't we do similar things in Africa?

I go to places like Osun state and I see shiny new roads and structures that would soon become descrepit with billions wasted while their people are hungry and jobless. Seyi Makinde spent #28bn naira providing street lights in Oyo State powered with diesel. One year after it's hardly functioning. Now imagine if he had spent#14bn creating a food processing and packaging hub in Oyo State. YNorth is a small shoemaking business in Ibadan. The guy's shoes and shirt rival what we import from Italy. Why not create a hub for such people and invest heavily in their businesses. Now the governor has started work on a 110km Ibadan Circular Road.
And we keep complaining about lack of jobs. All the roads Aregberascal built in Osun, how have they stimulated growth of Osun?

Or should I give you the example of Volkswagen which is today Europe's biggest carmaker and how Hitler started it by deducting workers salaries? (Hitler madman)

We don't have the luxury of the American model to follow in Africa. America has a rich private investment culture that Africa and Asia lack. That's why China and Korea didn't follow such models at the initial stage. If Africa is going to rise the government has to be involved in industries, not just trying to create enabling environments and then sitting on their dicks waiting for investors to come. The government's business must be business.

We are making the same salient point here, Stimulating capacity is the same thing as creating enabling environment, Enacting good policy and bailing out distress company, those should be the main focus of the government.

It's the people that establish an industry not the government, look at some of the most successful industry in Nigeria today, Tech and Entertainment, it was the ingenuity of the citizen that led to the success of this industry, there was minimal government involvement. That cloth manufacturing is doing well in morocco does not mean it will do well here in Nigeria.

Once government start playing an active role in building business, just because of the success of such business in other climes, it's a prelude to disaster, that such business succeed in other clime does not mean it will succeed here.

Not all countries will be good in tech, that does not mean such countries will not be good and successful in other stuff, if the government of such countries decide to invest heavily in tech, they will be going against the flow of their people innate creativity, and the industry will never blossom no matter how much money is invested into it.

The success of an industry should be determined by the citizen, let the people venture into business that they think will bring them profit, the government role here is to monitor the rise of such budding industry and help propel it along towards greatness.

The YNorth example you gave, was it not a citizen ingenuity? The best thing Ibadan or Ogun state government could have done is provide access to cheap loan at a very low interest rate to this entrepreneurs, then watch how this entrepreneurs create a successful industry by themselves.

The Chaebol of south korea were the one developing new industries not the government, General park chung hee created new policies centered around "The First Five year Economic plan" , which basically granted the Chaebols unlimited loans from the bank and access to stolen foreign technology at basically no cost. That's what led to the explosive growth of the chaebols. The government didn't create any industry in Korea, the Chaebol did, the Government only provided the blue print. The Government of Korea never invested in the chaebols.

You make a good point by saying the private sector will move slowly because of lack of funds, yes, that's true, lack of funds is the death of ideas, that's why the government need to make available cheap loans at low interest rate to the private sector. All the Successful industry in Nigeria today were created and run by the private sector, all the failed industry in Our country today were created by the Government.

QuietMynd:

You only quote me with a laugh emoji, I hope you are not disturbed with factual evidence.

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Even if all your veteran actors gather to tell you that Ghana started movies before Nigeria you will still deny so you don't surprise me one bit

From your own words Nigeria cinema started in 1926 yet you still believe that you started before Ghana that started cinema in 1900

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgkPVXvgkQ0

Shaytun:
There has never been a time in history where Nigerian filmmaker went to Ghana to learn filmmaking, it never happened.

Nigeria has the earliest cinema in Africa, earlier than even South Africa!!

That version of history where Ghana help Nigeria develop the entertainment industry only exist in the mind of deluded Ghana, stop trying to attach yourselves to every success story, it makes you look bizarre and greedy.

Create and develop your own industry, others people success is not a result of your own hard work.

No Nigerian will claim that the success of the year of return has anything to do with Nigeria, stand on your own two feet, stop attaching yourself to others, and stop listening to all those failed star in your country who thinks Nigeria is responsible for their failure.

Kazikazi:
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Fake statistics from useless sites

IGpro1:
Bro, you can't imagine, they go as far as showing them on air, some will cover a box do some juju, open it and begin to pour out money.
All they advertise is herbal mixtures and horrible tumours,sickness
Their Adverts are very primitive, you'd just see illitracy written all over.

When I visit my mum and see her watching a Ghanian TV channel It irritates me,
Everything is either
blood money
Herbal mixtures
Shrine
Or poor visual Ghanian movies.
And some very few decent ones

Anything good you get to watch, is a Nigerian content.

Ofcos your mum will watch, is she not into juju and evil stuffs. Why is it that only Nigerians watch those channels when in Ghana? Even me a Ghanaian I can't watch those channels for 5 minutes let alone watch their programmes.

In Ghana we have over 150 Tv channels
We have the Top Tv channels
We have faith based channels thus those operated by Christians, Muslims and other beliefs so if out of over 150 channels your mum decides to watch mallams/fetish channels who's fault is it? is she herself not a lover of fetish activities?

And let me correct you on this one also,
Ghana practices an Integrated healthcare system so the Herbal medicines you see on Tv have gone through all necessary processes and have been certified and approved. Maybe in your country herbal medicines are seen as some substandard medicines but here in Ghana they are certified

Show evidence
We all know Ghana started cinema and movies long before Nigeria and that's fact

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgkPVXvgkQ0

Obaaderemi2:
The Nigerian guys are actually telling you the truth. Cinema and filmmaking are older in Nigeria than in Ghana. If you are talking about the colonial Cinema, it started here in 1903 at Glover Hall and it was even a Nigerian, Herbert Macaulay who started it when he invited a Spanish film group to show their work here in Lagos for the colonial masters and a few elite Nigerians. Films were made in Nigeria as far back as 1926 featuring Nigerian actors with Nigerian storylines.

Don't even talk about independent filmmaking. Ola Balogun and Ogunde were doing that long before Ghanaians. Ghanas first independent film was in 1981 or something.

Those ones you call veteran Nigerian actors are actually baby actors. The veterans were Ogunde, Afolayan and Baba Sala. They're dead and long buried. Not the ones that started acting in the 80s and 90s.

I'm not saying Ghanaians learnt anything from Nigerians in terms of entertainment but this idea of trying to equate Ghana's history of entertainment with Nigeria's is not going to ever fly. Good morning.

To cut long story short this is when Ghana started cinemas, when did Nigeria also start?

Na for your head cinema or movies means Television?

If you want to talk Television fine but what we are discussing here is Cinema and movies not Television

POKUASI2:
PIP: In 1959, the regional government of Western Nigeria established the 1st television station in Nigeria and in Africa. Even though it promoted the station as a means to educate the people about development and the world, it initially served as a means for an opposition leader to address the people of Western Nigeria. The regional governments of Eastern and Northern Nigeria and the federal government in Lagos followed and started their own TV stations in the early 1960s. All 4 of these stations basically existed to serve partisan political objectives for the various governments. Any stations established after these 4 continued this same political and regionalistic heritage.

These are history that predates some of these dense children of the IMF born in witch camps..
How do you teach a people who have been doing original theater production showcasing their culture how to make films for crying loud.
A country that had a terrestrial TV station 6years before you know what TV is..

Shaytun:
I’m surprised by the Ghanaians, where are they getting all these fantasy from? Imagine believing you founded Rap music.

No Ghanaian is having a fantasy
It's rather you Nigerians that are distorting facts and we ain't taking any of that from you

History needs to be respected and protected

QuietMynd:
U re funny.
Which kind of deal will he get from Nigeria by insulting Ghanaian.
I will like to know

He is getting exactly what he is getting now "Attention". Even BBC posted his insults on their social media platforms

For the past 4 years he Shatta doesn't get much attention whenever he release a music so the only option left for him is to insult Ghanaians and everything that will get him the attention

Just30:
Just a little education for you
This means Ghana had a tv station 10 years plus before Nigeria. Don't let it infringe on your pride, it's just the fact that at the time, to really begin something you had to be in Ghana.

I like how you Nigerians like to claim the successes of others
You've moved from Afrobeat to how Ghana taught you production of movies to now tv ?

I'm sure the first tv station in Africa will probably be in Egypt or somewhere up north.

Now stop misquoting Reg on his hip hop claim and get it in the right context. Everyone knows the Reg started the Hip hop movement in Ghana and Jay z and Beyonce credit him for that.

You don't have to be desperately ignorant all the time... But I don't expect much from children of poverty Born in Baby Making Factories..... Ain't that poetic justice

I find it difficult to understand why Nigerians "the current generation" most especially those 30years and below have so much misinformation running through their minds.
To them they are Giant so every history should be twisted in their favor forgetting that other countries also have reciept and records for everything that happens in their country

They should allow their old generation to sit them down and teach them history and they will know how Great the country Ghana is