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Regardless of who wins the coming elections, is nigeria's current tsunami of crisis even salvageable? Buhari seems to be in a competition to sink the country even worse then were GEJ left off, the political elite seem content with carrying on their usual practice of chop and quench while the average nigerian deals with economic maladies that will even scar their unborn grandchildren. The population itself just seems ignorant and desperate, even working against their own interests when the elite drop a few crumbs to sate the hunger they've imposed on the country. How can any of the candidates we have even approach this

God bless Nigeria.

I will make NIGERIA UNGOVERNABLE AFTER me.
Now, I have turned the CBN into a MAGICIAN and a LYING VAULT.
The LEGISLATURES are even more confused now.

Nigeria is gone.

which country? be specific.

The only hope its peterobi the manager if we want to restore the country back

superCleanworks:
which country? be specific.

Another sad example of the countries failing literacy, i will pray for you

Structural problem is what Nigeria has. No country can be successfully run with everything centralized, tribal people can't be ruled like immigrants. Nigeria is not going to survive the problems ahead if a president like Tinubu does not swing into action immediately and bring back the 1962 constitution with just a single amendment to remove queen Elizabeth's name wherever it's found.

Maazieze:
Regardless of who wins the coming elections, is nigeria's current tsunami of crisis even salvageable? Buhari seems to be in a competition to sink the country even worse then were GEJ left off, the political elite seem content with carrying on their usual practice of chop and quench while the average nigerian deals with economic maladies that will even scar their unborn grandchildren. The population itself just seems ignorant and desperate, even working against their own interests when the elite drop a few crumbs to sate the hunger they've imposed on the country. How can any of the candidates we have even approach this

Bonesbreaker:
The only hope its peterobi the manager if we want to restore the country back

How exactly? I dont see him being greatly exceptional and the only advantage i can get from obidients is his relatively clean track record and average governorship in anambra( the details of which idk too well).

Maazieze:
Regardless of who wins the coming elections, is nigeria's current tsunami of crisis even salvageable? Buhari seems to be in a competition to sink the country even worse then were GEJ left off, the political elite seem content with carrying on their usual practice of chop and quench while the average nigerian deals with economic maladies that will even scar their unborn grandchildren. The population itself just seems ignorant and desperate, even working against their own interests when the elite drop a few crumbs to sate the hunger they've imposed on the country. How can any of the candidates we have even approach this

Nigeria has long gone past the point of being saved and is heading for disintegration, regardless of who wins

ycat:
Structural problem is what Nigeria has. No country can be successfully run with everything centralized, tribal people can't be ruled like immigrants. Nigeria is not going to survive the problems ahead if a president like Tinubu does not swing into action immediately and bring back the 1962 constitution with just a single amendment to remove queen Elizabeth's name wherever it's found.

What incentive does tinubu have to reverse the constitution? And what of the issues of the 3 regions? I i know the states currently as they are, are so small they cant effectively produce revenue unless their oil producing or a globalised city like lagos.(the states themselves lack constitutions so the affairs of LGAs are often at the whim of the state government).
Idk how well the parliamentary system works as im not knowledgeable so ill look it up later.

gidgiddy:
Nigeria has long gone past the point of being saved and is heading for disintegration, regardless of who wins

I desperately don't want to accept that is the case, if disintegration occurs it will be more akin to the yugoslav wars, it wouldnt be like the biafran war with just one secessionist region, but the entire country on fire and their is no guarantee the states that are born out of the turmoil will be better then nigeria.

Maazieze:
I desperately don't want to accept that is the case, if disintegration occurs it will be more akin to the yugoslav wars, it wouldnt be like the biafran war with just one secessionist region, but the entire country on fire and their is no guarantee the states that are born out of the turmoil will be better then nigeria.

Not really, who would be fighting who? Not every union will last, some will end in seperation or divorce

Nigeria has not worked as a nation, things will only get worse. It is time for us to shake hands, go our seperate ways and manage our individual lands just as we did before the British came to lump us all together in their colonial project called Nigeria

gidgiddy:
Not really, who would be fighting who? Not every union will last, some will end in seperation or divorce

Nigeria has not worked as a nation, things will only get worse. It is time for us to shake hands, go our seperate ways and manage our individual lands just as we did before the British came to lump us all together in their colonial project called Nigeria

The emergent conflicts would be border disputes and ethnic conflict, often secession would be based on an ethnic group(Nations) secceding, if total disintegration occurs i cant imagine a breakup that wont have a decade of war following it, over claims of ethnic unification, resource control and revenge for crimes against humanity.

Maazieze:
Another sad example of the countries failing literacy, i will pray for you

Another woeful example of a shattered & over serious mind. I am not the cause of your problems.
See the wholesale fool can't even spell correctly and he is talking about literacy?
Pray for who? Be specific.

Maazieze:
The emergent conflicts would be border disputes and ethnic conflict, often secession would be based on an ethnic group(Nations) secceding, if total disintegration occurs i cant imagine a breakup that wont have a decade of war following it, over claims of ethnic unification, resource control and revenge for crimes against humanity.

And that is why there is something called referendum where everyone, every ethnic nationality will choose where they want to be, to avoid conflict. The alternative is to keep fighting each other in Nigeria as armed ethnic militias rise up everywhere against government.

Nigeria might have worked had the country been restructured into a loose federation where everyone controlled their resources, progressed at their own pace without the overbearing influence of a federal government. But some people who believe that they own Nigeria refused, and want to keep the current system that is reduces some to slaves and elevates others to masters. Where there is injustice, there is never peace, nor progress

superCleanworks:
Another woeful example of a shattered & over serious mind. I am not the cause of your problems.
See the wholesale fool can't even spell correctly and he is talking about literacy?
Pray for who? Be specific.

i am glad you regained some limited capacity to read, i will direct you to read the title post and see where i mentioned the country of interest, which is Nigeria.

Maazieze:
i am glad you regained some limited capacity to read, i will direct you to read the title post and see where i mentioned the country of interest, which is Nigeria.

Which Nigeria? Be specific you fool.

Tinubu as an elected president has all it takes to reverse the unconstitutional system put in place by dictators that suspended the original constitution and system of govt. 3 regions system was convenient at the time before it later became 4, the only reason it wasn't 6 at the time was that only Yoruba allowed the minorities midwest to leave. Igbos and the north refused to let their minorities go. So it's a good thing that we now have the 6 geopolitical regions. I guess you can't stop people from leaving when they make up their minds. States or regions can't stay on feeding bottles forever, God has given every nation something for survival and people just have to look inward rather than panhandling. There are many countries with no oil but use what God gave them to bring in the money they need. There's no such thing as globalized Lagos, it's some people's homeland. All states don't have to be like Lagos, regions just need to create the enabling environment for people to come. Some claim to be industrious in Nigeria, nothing stops them from turning their land to manufacturing hub of Africa. The people with expanse of land can feed the world through agriculture. In my own, ive been saying it forever that Yoruba should bulldoze all the concrete slabs in Lekki/Ajah all the way to Epe, replace them with palm trees and turn it to a resort paradise in addition to other resources like our waterways. Parliamentary system is the govt all multi-ethnic countries all over the world use, including the Britain that created Nigeria, even Ghana because that's how different cultures and tribes can be truly represented. Nigeria is a fake country that won't last forever and the earlier people start looking to use what they have in their land rather than waiting for free money, the better shape they will be.

Maazieze:
What incentive does tinubu have to reverse the constitution? And what of the issues of the 3 regions? I i know the states currently as they are, are so small they cant effectively produce revenue unless their oil producing or a globalised city like lagos.(the states themselves lack constitutions so the affairs of LGAs are often at the whim of the state government).
Idk how well the parliamentary system works as im not knowledgeable so ill look it up later.

ycat:
Tinubu as an elected president has all it takes to reverse the unconstitutional system put in place by dictators that suspended the original constitution and system of govt. 3 regions system was convenient at the time before it later became 4, the only reason it wasn't 6 at the time was that only Yoruba allowed the minorities midwest to leave. Igbos and the north refused to let their minorities go. So it's a good thing that we now have the 6 geopolitical regions. I guess you can't stop people from leaving when they make up their minds. States or regions can't stay on feeding bottles forever, God has given every nation something for survival and people just have to look inward rather than panhandling. There are many countries with no oil but use what God gave them to bring in the money they need. There's no such thing as globalized Lagos, it's some people's homeland. All states don't have to be like Lagos, regions just need to create the enabling environment for people to come. Some claim to be industrious in Nigeria, nothing stops them from turning their land to manufacturing hub of Africa. The people with expanse of land can feed the world through agriculture. In my own, ive been saying it forever that Yoruba should bulldoze all the concrete slabs in Lekki/Ajah all the way to Epe, replace them with palm trees and turn it to a resort paradise in addition to other resources like our waterways. Parliamentary system is the govt all multi-ethnic countries all over the world use, including the Britain that created Nigeria, even Ghana because that's how different cultures and tribes can be truly represented. Nigeria is a fake country that won't last forever and the earlier people start looking to use what they have in their land rather than waiting for free money, the better shape they will be.

The only candidate ive heard talk of restructuring the states according to the 6 geopolitical states is atiku, i havent heard any even talk about shifting to parliamentary government. Also when i described lagos as globalised i didnt intend to imply it wasnt part of yoruba land, i meant that it was such a large center of trade it is important from a global perspective like tokyo or florida.

On another point of discussion, what if their are disputes within either of the 6 geopolitical regions, especially those that arent composed of any majority ethnic nationality, we would still get the calls of state creation that lead us where we are. Mayhaps if the 6 regions have a fair system of internal conflict resolution. Another pet peeve of mine with the nigerian governmental system is "regional rotation", optimally it should be whoever best appeals to better the country regardless of tribe, but the electorate is ethnically/regionally polarised and demand some arbitrary rotation of seats regardless of the candidates actual qualifications, since its not a rule of the constitution and cant be enforced their is bound to be tension amd conflict as people feel left out of the "national pie" like as if the country exists simply just to be looted

That Atiku is talking about it does not mean he will "restructure" whatever that means. Atiku hasn't said anything about taking the country back to the regional system. Every region will have its own problem just like every family does, but it will be manageable. That's why it's important to be with people of the same culture, tradition and language, people with the same values will agree on most things. Minorities of the former West and later Midwest got along better when they before the original system was suspended, that was why they agreed to go together, the structure of Nigeria today is what is causing problems between them. The regions can then create as many states as they want since they would be funding it by themselves. But i can bet anything that there won't be more states created once every region is taking care of itself, the nanny system of Abuja is what is driving more states creation. It's like a case of two poor couples of the same background that one is getting N1million every month and the other is working 12 hours everyday to bring home N50,000 to survive, which one can afford to have a baby and bring in relatives to to stay with them? That's how life is in Nigeria, the system is not encouraging regions to do well. Going regional system of govt will make the regions of Nigeria compete with hidden resources. If Nigeria can start by having police serve only in their home regions and then fix eletricity problem, Nigeria would change in 3 years. With good security and electricity, people would back home with their money and set up businesses.

Maazieze:
The only candidate ive heard talk of restructuring the states according to the 6 geopolitical states is atiku, i havent heard any even talk about shifting to parliamentary government. Also when i described lagos as globalised i didnt intend to imply it wasnt part of yoruba land, i meant that it was such a large center of trade it is important from a global perspective like tokyo or florida.

On another point of discussion, what if their are disputes within either of the 6 geopolitical regions, especially those that arent composed of any majority ethnic nationality, we would still get the calls of state creation that lead us where we are. Mayhaps if the 6 regions have a fair system of internal conflict resolution. Another pet peeve of mine with the nigerian governmental system is "regional rotation", optimally it should be whoever best appeals to better the country regardless of tribe, but the electorate is ethnically/regionally polarised and demand some arbitrary rotation of seats regardless of the candidates actual qualifications, since its not a rule of the constitution and cant be enforced their is bound to be tension amd conflict as people feel left out of the "national pie" like as if the country exists simply just to be looted

Bonesbreaker:
The only hope its peterobi the manager if we want to restore the country back

What is Obi's track record in Anambra?

Abeg forget the hype....Obi is the most clueless of all candidates

your english is poor. it is "if there any hope for nigeria"