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timbros:
The only extraordinary thing we saw in Liverpool vs Tottenham final is Alisson 8 saves (a record) and Matip 14 interceptions.

Did Jorginho play only final in the UCL?

😄

Ok let's say your Jorginho flopped in the final, tell us what he did extraordinarily in the Semifinal.

airmark:
Na to go and look at stats Timbros sabi. He can't remember anything. 😄

Na to only select picture of VVD and falling Spurs player you sabi. When stats dey tell you say na Allison and Mario do the whole work for that final.

airmark:
😄

Ok let's say your Jorginho flopped in the final, tell us what he did extraordinarily in the Semifinal.

You and who say Jorginho flopped in the final? Does UCL start and end in semi and final?

lordfalcao:
you told us spineless DMs are meant to conceede cricket scorelines, while robust DMs put the team in good solid defensive shape.


What was mr Robust doing to conceede 7 goals and to be bundled out after half time

Conceded 5 at 45mins half time, playing at home

airmark:
Timbros is ridiculously ignorant. I have decided not to educate him. 😄

I didn't expect it from him tbh

raumdeuter:
Conceded 5 at 45mins half time, playing at home

I never see where they gave footballer a rating of 1 abi 2..

Only MR Robust

timbros:
You and who say Jorginho flopped in the final? Does UCL start and end in semi and final?

Since you couldn't find any tangible thing Jorginho did in the final, it means he flopped. Now tell us what he did extraordinarily in the Semifinal.

Jorginho is a small game player - Timbros, 2023.

airmark:
Since you couldn't find any tangible thing Jorginho did in the final, it means he flopped. Now tell us what he did extraordinarily in the Semifinal.

First answer me if it's only semi and final Chelsea played in UCL then I'll tell you the extra ordinary thing he did.

Leyqute:
I didn't expect it from him tbh

Timbros can be disappointing.

timbros:
First answer me if it's only semi and final Chelsea played in UCL then I'll tell you the extra ordinary thing he did.

Those are the two biggest matches in the tournament, where big players prove themselves.

Now tell me what he did extraordinarily in those matches.

timbros:
Can a player with lesser minutes "carry" a player with more minutes over the cause of a tournament?

Player A played 3 matches and scored a goal in all the matches. 3 matches 3 goals. 100% goal record. (Per 90)

Player B played 6 matches and scored hat trick in 3 matches and blank in 3 matches. 50% goal record. (Per 90)

Who is better?

Present your hypothesis in a per 90 mins format and I'll give you an answer.

Per 90 stat evaluates players based on how long they stay on the pitch, not if they played a match or not.

It gives better accuracy on player evaluations although it's only effective when there isn't a massive difference between number of minutes played- like 200 vs 2000.

Leyqute:
I didn't expect it from him tbh

Understand the context of a discussion before jumping into conclusion.

How can you bring a per 90 metric when we are discussing a player being carried in a tournament? Can a player with lesser minute carry an ever present member of the squad? What does per 90 mins got to do with this? I don't argue ignorantly.

If Kante carried Jorginho, he must have played more minutes. How can you carry someone from the bench or from the hospital bed or from suspension? Imagine being injured and Jorginho is there on the pitch doing his thing and you want to use per 90 to calculate both players contribution over the course of the season?

Dey reason well na.

Leyqute:
Present your hypothesis in a per 90 mins format and I'll give you an answer.

Per 90 stat evaluates players based on how long they stay on the pitch, not if they played a match or not.

It gives better accuracy on player evaluations although it's only effective when there isn't a massive difference between number of minutes played- like 200 vs 2000.

Context again.

So if a player played one match or two, you will use his performance against a player that played across the 13 matches of the competition? So he carried the other player just in that 2 matches he played?

airmark:
Those are the two biggest matches in the tournament, where big players prove themselves.

Now tell me what he did extraordinarily in those matches.

Atletico was a small match abi? Porto was a small match too?

Dey play. Just dey play.

Suddenly ibime no remember Alisson saves in the final, but he remember all Donnaruma PK saves

Agenda can be really funny.

timbros:
Understand the context of a discussion before jumping into conclusion.

How can you bring a per 90 metric when we are discussing a player being carried in a tournament? Can a player with lesser minute carry an ever present member of the squad? What does per 90 mins got to do with this? I don't argue ignorantly.

If Kante carried Jorginho, he must have played more minutes. How can you carry someone from the bench or from the hospital bed or from suspension? Imagine being injured and Jorginho is there on the pitch doing his thing and you want to use per 90 to calculate both players contribution over the course of the season?

Dey reason well na.

You don't have to play more minutes to carry someone along, you only have to be more effective whenever you're on the pitch with them.

And UCL is not a 3 game tournament. To get to the final, you'll play about 14 games. That's almost half of the whole league campaign in Germany. So Per 90 stats count.

Leyqute:
You don't have to play more minutes to carry someone along, you only have to be more effective whenever you're on the pitch with them.

And UCL is not a 3 game tournament. To get to the final, you'll play about 14 games. That's almost half of the whole league campaign in Germany. So Per 90 stats count.

Smh.

Ok.

Even say UCL na 14 game tournament

timbros:
Context again.

So if a player played one match or two, you will use his performance against a player that played across the 13 matches of the competition? So he carried the other player just in that 2 matches he played?

That's why I said this

Leyqute:
Present your hypothesis in a per 90 mins format and I'll give you an answer.

Per 90 stat evaluates players based on how long they stay on the pitch, not if they played a match or not.

It gives better accuracy on player evaluations although it's only effective when there isn't a massive difference between number of minutes played- like 200 vs 2000 mins.

Per 90 stat counts when the difference isn't massive - which is true in this context.

timbros:
Atletico was a small match abi? Porto was a small match too?

Dey play. Just dey play.

But why is it difficult for you to tell us what Jorginho did in those big games? 😄😄😄😄

Leyqute:
That's why I said this



Per 90 stat counts when the difference isn't massive - which is true in this context.

Jorginho played 1031 mins.

Kante played 708 mins.

Difference of 323 mins.

Do you know that 323 mins in football is 3 and half matches? The difference isn't massive.

airmark:
But why is it difficult for you to tell us what Jorginho did in those big games? 😄😄😄😄

Why is it difficult for you to tell us if UCL is only semi and final? Do you just wake up and play semi finals and final?

timbros:
Smh.

Ok.

Even say UCL na 14 game tournament

LoL. Don't twist my words.

I didn't say UCL is 14 games. I said you'll play about 14 games to get to the UCL final.

And if you're in the playoffs, it's more. Ajax played more than 15 games to get to the semi final in 2019.

That's more than enough games to make evaluations on a per 90 basis.

timbros:
Suddenly ibime no remember Alisson saves in the final, but he remember all Donnaruma PK saves

Agenda can be really funny.

In your whoscored rating, you see VVD was among the top 3 performers in the final. Now, let's check how your Jorginho performed according to whoscored below.

No wonder City said only Kante stopped them in the middle. Jorginho was the 2nd poorest performer for us on the pitch. A big flop in the biggest game of Ucl.

airmark:
Why was he shipped away to Arsenal and getting benched now at Arsenal?

Because he is aged.

Salahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Leyqute:
LoL. Don't twist my words.

I didn't say UCL is 14 games. I said you'll play about 14 games to get to the UCL final.

And if you're in the playoffs, it's more. Ajax played more than 15 games to get to the semi final in 2019.

That's more than enough games to make evaluations on a per 90 basis.

Are we talking of Ajax or Chelsea here? Did Chelsea play 14 games to reach the final?

airmark:
In your whoscored rating, you see VVD was among the top 3 performers in the final. Now, let's check how your Jorginho performed according to whoscored below.

No wonder City said only Kante stopped them in the middle. Jorginho was the 2nd poorest performer for us on the pitch. A big flop in the biggest game of Ucl.

Wow! The almighty unreliable site!

Airmark. You are confused. Take a rest.

Do You wake up and play semi finals in UCL? Is Atletico and Porto small games?

raumdeuter:
Salahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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8 seconds after hitting the bar at the other end....

timbros:
Wow! The almighty unreliable site!

Airmark. You are confused. Take a rest.

Do You wake up and play semi finals in UCL? Is Atletico and Porto small games?

Since you used it as your authoritative site, so I used it to show you that your Jorginho wasn't rated by your site in the final.

If Kante and others were as useless as Jorginho in that final, would Chelsea have won the title? That's why you couldn't point to one tangible thing the spineless DM did when it mattered most.

airmark:
Since you used it as your authoritative site, so I used it to show you that your Jorginho wasn't rated by your site in the final.

If Kante and others were as useless as Jorginho in that final, would Chelsea have won the title? That's why you couldn't point to one tangible thing the spineless DM did when it mattered most.

Did Chelsea wake up one morning and just played Semi final and qualified for final?

No wonder you can't give me another site to compare Pulisic and Jorginho

timbros:
Jorginho played 1031 mins.

Kante played 708 mins.

Difference of 323 mins.

Do you know that 323 mins in football is 3 and half matches? The difference isn't massive.

For a bench warmer like Jorginho at Arsenal who plays maybe 20 mins every matchday, 323 mins is like 16 matches. So, what are you talking about?

You calculate the difference between the two players in relation to the competition they're playing.

Jorginho: 1031mins, which is 88% of the 1170 mins Chelsea played tl get to UCL final.

Kante: 708- 61% of the whole minutes.

So, Kante played 61% of the games, which is about 70% of J5's total minutes.

How massive is that difference now? Per 90 stats count.

timbros:
Did Chelsea wake up one morning and just played Semi final and qualified for final?

No wonder you can't give me another site to compare Pulisic and Jorginho

Look at your Jorginho and his poor rating by your site below, among all the Chelsea players. No wonder he has been thrown away to Arsenal. 😄