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TenQ:
A few days ago , I came across these verses in the Quran and maybe it is my understanding that is incomplete: hence I wish all muslims and the scholars will help me comprehend the CLEAR Words of Allah without Addition or Subtraction.

Quran 6:7
وَلَوْ نَزَّلْنَا عَلَيْكَ كِتَـٰبًۭا فِى قِرْطَاسٍۢ فَلَمَسُوهُ بِأَيْدِيهِمْ لَقَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓا۟ إِنْ هَـٰذَآ إِلَّا سِحْرٌۭ مُّبِينٌۭ
Had We sent down to you (O Prophet) a revelation in writing and they were to touch it with their own hands, the disbelievers would still have said, “This is nothing but pure magic!”
Quran 6:8
وَقَالُوا۟ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ عَلَيْهِ مَلَكٌۭ ۖ وَلَوْ أَنزَلْنَا مَلَكًۭا لَّقُضِىَ ٱلْأَمْرُ ثُمَّ لَا يُنظَرُونَ
They say, “Why has no angel come with him?” Had We sent down an angel, the matter would have certainly been settled , and they would have never been given more time ˹to repent˺.
Quran 6:9
وَلَوْ جَعَلْنَـٰهُ مَلَكًۭا لَّجَعَلْنَـٰهُ رَجُلًۭا وَلَلَبَسْنَا عَلَيْهِم مَّا يَلْبِسُونَ
And if We had sent an angel, We would have certainly made it ˹assume the form of˺ a man—leaving them more confused than they already are.
Quran 6:10
وَلَقَدِ ٱسْتُهْزِئَ بِرُسُلٍۢ مِّن قَبْلِكَ فَحَاقَ بِٱلَّذِينَ سَخِرُوا۟ مِنْهُم مَّا كَانُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَسْتَهْزِءُونَ١
Other˺ messengers had already been ridiculed before you ˹O Prophet˺, but those who mocked them were overtaken by what they used to ridicule.


So, Lets begin:
1. In verse 10: Allah seem to accept the fact that Mohammed is ALSO a Messenger (as other messengers have been sent before Mohammed who also have been ridiculed)
2. In verse 7: Allah said that he DID NOT send the revelations to Mohammed as a printed book from heaven, as the disbelievers would regard it as just magic (they wouldn't still believe anyways)
3. In verse 8: Allah says that he DID NOT send an Angel to Mohammed (even though these disbelievers ask why no angel has been sent to him) because IF he did, their judgement would have been concluded and thus cannot repent again
4. In verse 9: Allah says that IF HE DID SEND an Angel, the Angel would have come in the form of an ordinary Man which would even leave the disbelievers more confused. i.e. Allah DID NOT send any Angel even in form of a Man (not to even think as an Angel)


My Questions:
In Quran 6:7-10 it seems Allah is saying in no ambiguous terms that he DID NOT send any Angel to Mohammed either as an Angel (spirit being) or as a Man (physical being).
However, Islamic TRADITIONS say that the Angel Jibril was the one who always brought the Quran to Mohammed. There is even the elaborate story of Jibril's first encounter with Mohammed where he was squeezed and commanded to Recite!

1. Is there any other verse(s) in the Quran that says clearly that an Angel was sent to Mohammed?
2. Who do you think we should believe in this case, the almighty Allah OR Islamic Traditions ?

Thank you.

TenQ:
In my last post, I gave you opportunities to ASK me Any Question regarding the Gospel of our Salvation after I had explained it. I will thus like to say a big thank you to those who responded constructively


To my friends and others on NL, Above for your consideration and necessary action. I am basing my thesis and question on
Quran 41:3
A Book whereof the Verses are explained in detail; A Qur'an in Arabic for people who know

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LegalWolf:
I’ll assume that the texts are clear enough for people to understand. And I think your explanation is a little bit stretched than what an objective mind should draw…

I’m tempted to break it down to you. But knowing you and with my strong negative/loathsome
bias towards you, I’ll just let it pass. For those who may not share my negative sentiments, I’ll let them do explanation.

Finally, would have called you a potential thief like I so much love to. Or a armed robber in the making. But you’ve kept your question civil [of course, that in no way detract from the fact that I can revert to status quo]

Cc: TenQ

LegalWolf:
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LegalWolf:
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drlateef:
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TenQ:
Okay.

I deliberately included the Arabic script so that no one will say what the plain language did not say so

There are just two questions.


1. Is there any other verse(s) in the Quran that says clearly that an Angel was sent to Mohammed?

2. Who do you think we should believe in this case, the almighty Allah OR Islamic Traditions ?

Thank you.

TenQ:
No need to reserve space sir!
Good morning

LegalWolf:
Hehehehe potential thief 🤣

LegalWolf:
Freedom of speech man…freedom is 🔑

TenQ:
Of course, freedom of speech but beyond the speech is the mind.
What have we fed our mind?


1. Is there any other verse(s) in the Quran that says clearly that an Angel was sent to Mohammed?

2. Who do you think we should believe in this case, the almighty Allah OR Islamic Traditions ?

Any OTHER clear verse(s) that will show me that an angel was sent to Mohammed in the Qur'an will shut my mouth up with regards to this observation of mine.

LegalWolf:
LOL, I would not aid your hallucination potential thief. Nahhhhhhhhh, I would not.

TenQ:
Just check the Qur'an for the answer. If Allah says no Angel was sent to Mohammed and Islamic narratives say otherwise, which of the two positions is TRUE and which is FALSE!

Let me brief you of the implication
1. If Allah did not send an angel to Mohammed, where did he then receive the Qur'an?
2. If Allah sent an Angel to Mohammed, then Allah contradict himself and therefore the whole Qur'an become void!

TenQ:
Hello
I am also frantically looking for verses where Allah says that he sent an angel to Mohammed, I am yet to find one:

Maybe you can help me find at least one verse

[i]Cc:
Legal_Wolf


I'm sure you'll agree with me that some things do not scale through scrutiny.

LegalWolf:
LOL! Potential thief

LegalWolf:
LOL! Is it salvation through human sacrifice that 'scale through scrutiny'?

TenQ:
Why are you disturbed with the truth staring down at your neck?

Just check the Qur'an for the answer. If Allah says no Angel was sent to Mohammed and Islamic narratives say otherwise, which of the two positions is TRUE and which is FALSE!

Let me brief you of the implication
1. If Allah did not send an angel to Mohammed, where did he then receive the Qur'an?
2. If Allah sent an Angel to Mohammed, then Allah contradict himself and therefore the whole Qur'an become void!


Are you saying you can't find any such tale in the Qur'an?

TenQ:
The WORD became flesh!

I asked you a question:
When Jubril came to Mary as a perfect man, did he loose his status as an Angel?

Sorry for you
Instead of looking at WHY Islamic Narratives many times go AGAINST Allah himself, you are fighting those who care about you.


Like I said,
I am also frantically looking for verses where Allah says that he sent an angel to Mohammed, I am yet to find one:

Maybe you can help me find at least one verse

WHO MANUFACTURED THIS STORY!?
Was it the Jews?

LegalWolf:
Hahahaha potential thief 😝😝😝😝

LegalWolf:
Po po po… potential thief 💃🏽💃🏽

TenQ:
My dear LegalWolf,
If Allah claimed not to have sent an Angel to Mohammed, where did the story of Jubril emanate from?

LegalWolf:
Hehehehe future thief 😜😜😜😜

TenQ:
The Question in summary:


There are just two questions.
1. Is there any other verse(s) in the Quran that says clearly that an Angel was sent to Mohammed?
2. Who do you think we should believe in this case, the almighty Allah OR Islamic Traditions ?


Thank you.





HERE Again

A few days ago , I came across these verses in the Quran and maybe it is my understanding that is incomplete: hence I wish all muslims and the scholars will help me comprehend the CLEAR Words of Allah without Addition or Subtraction.

Quran 6:7
وَلَوْ نَزَّلْنَا عَلَيْكَ كِتَـٰبًۭا فِى قِرْطَاسٍۢ فَلَمَسُوهُ بِأَيْدِيهِمْ لَقَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓا۟ إِنْ هَـٰذَآ إِلَّا سِحْرٌۭ مُّبِينٌۭ
Had We sent down to you (O Prophet) a revelation in writing and they were to touch it with their own hands, the disbelievers would still have said, “This is nothing but pure magic!”
Quran 6:8
وَقَالُوا۟ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ عَلَيْهِ مَلَكٌۭ ۖ وَلَوْ أَنزَلْنَا مَلَكًۭا لَّقُضِىَ ٱلْأَمْرُ ثُمَّ لَا يُنظَرُونَ
They say, “Why has no angel come with him?” Had We sent down an angel, the matter would have certainly been settled , and they would have never been given more time ˹to repent˺.
Quran 6:9
وَلَوْ جَعَلْنَـٰهُ مَلَكًۭا لَّجَعَلْنَـٰهُ رَجُلًۭا وَلَلَبَسْنَا عَلَيْهِم مَّا يَلْبِسُونَ
And if We had sent an angel, We would have certainly made it ˹assume the form of˺ a man—leaving them more confused than they already are.
Quran 6:10
وَلَقَدِ ٱسْتُهْزِئَ بِرُسُلٍۢ مِّن قَبْلِكَ فَحَاقَ بِٱلَّذِينَ سَخِرُوا۟ مِنْهُم مَّا كَانُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَسْتَهْزِءُونَ١
Other˺ messengers had already been ridiculed before you ˹O Prophet˺, but those who mocked them were overtaken by what they used to ridicule.


So, Lets begin:
1. In verse 10: Allah seem to accept the fact that Mohammed is ALSO a Messenger (as other messengers have been sent before Mohammed who also have been ridiculed)
2. In verse 7: Allah said that he DID NOT send the revelations to Mohammed as a printed book from heaven, as the disbelievers would regard it as just magic (they wouldn't still believe anyways)
3. In verse 8: Allah says that he DID NOT send an Angel to Mohammed (even though these disbelievers ask why no angel has been sent to him) because IF he did, their judgement would have been concluded and thus cannot repent again
4. In verse 9: Allah says that IF HE DID SEND an Angel, the Angel would have come in the form of an ordinary Man which would even leave the disbelievers more confused. i.e. Allah DID NOT send any Angel even in form of a Man (not to even think as an Angel)


My Questions:
In Quran 6:7-10 it seems Allah is saying in no ambiguous terms that he DID NOT send any Angel to Mohammed either as an Angel (spirit being) or as a Man (physical being).
However, Islamic TRADITIONS say that the Angel Jibril was the one who always brought the Quran to Mohammed. There is even the elaborate story of Jibril's first encounter with Mohammed where he was squeezed and commanded to Recite!

1. Is there any other verse(s) in the Quran that says clearly that an Angel was sent to Mohammed?
2. Who do you think we should believe in this case, the almighty Allah OR Islamic Traditions ?

Thank you.


Cc:
LegalWolf

LegalWolf:
Hehehehe potential thief 😂😂😂😂😜😜

TenQ:
So, how is it that the followers of the Religion of the almighty Allah completely disregard him to peddle their own fabrications?

LegalWolf:
Hehehehe potential thief with thieving logic 😂😂😂😂😜😜

TenQ:
I guess you NOW understand HOW and WHY Islam is called the religion of lies