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OVA200:
I'm not arguing the importance of goal in football with you but outside goals football still got a lot to offer.

One thing in football is winning is important and goals give you that but remember you can't always win.
Goal is important but how you play to score that goal is also important, what you do when looking for that goal is also important.
Their is a reason footballer can win an award by not winning the competition.
You can't tell me you've not enjoy a football match of goaless draw.


Lionel Messi will be in the GOAT conversation without is goals.
Tell me how many goals Zidane and Ronaldinho have to be in the GOAT debate.

I want you ask one question, what is the work of a striker??

OVA200:
Okay

If I may ask you between frank lampard, Zidane, Iniesta, Xavi and Paul scholes who is your greatest Midfielder?

Answer the question and put an end to the debate.

What all these players you mentioned did on the field of play is to make sure there teams won either by scoring, assisting and helping there teams win in the biggest stage. They all are winners and that all that matters. WINNING

timbros:
Dude is using only their Spurs job to compare them. Who does that? Na wao.

That's the only club both coached at. So should he use their Juve job or what

Borntosmoke:
I want you ask one question, what is the work of a striker??

I will answer your question with a question.

Is goal the only work of a striker?

Ellexy:
What all these players you mentioned did on the field of play is to make sure there teams won either by scoring, assisting and helping there teams win in the biggest stage. They all are winners and that all that matters. WINNING

I know they're winners but their contribution to the winning is different.

So please rank them according to their greatness in your book.

andrewbaba44:
Won’t forget when gbanaldo fans was dreaming of winning the World Cup after defeating Switzerland 6-1

What's the obsession of this racist pix of Junior. Of all his photos he look good na this one people used to racially abuse him be your bread and butter

OVA200:
I know they're winners but their contribution to the winning is different.

So please rank them according to their greatness in your book.

The contribution to the winning is the key point here not subjective rankings. Some might have more goals than others, more assists, more chances created, more defensive tackles, more skills, more dribbles etc. It's all for one purpose and that is winning.

There is more to a striker than scoring goals depending on the structure and tactical demands of a team. In 2012/2013 Bayern treble winning season despite the goalscoring prowess of Mario Gomez, Mario Mandzukic was preferred ahead of him because of the latter's pressing game and involvement in buildup play.

Sportsweb:
What's the obsession of this racist pix of Junior. Of all his photos he look good na this one people used to racially abuse him be your bread and butter

Dey find talk ,you no go see am

Rest

Oga ova200 is Haaland struggling?
(Simple yes or no.)

Amoto94:
There is more to a striker than scoring goals depending on the structure and tactical demands of a team. In 2012/2013 Bayern treble winning season despite the goalscoring prowess of Mario Gomez, Mario Mandzukic was preferred ahead of him because of the latter's pressing game and involvement in buildup play.

If I am not mistaken Mario Gomez suffered injuries that season ,that was the reason mandzukic was playing more minutes than him

Eazzii:
Oga ova200 is Haaland struggling?
(Simple yes or no.)

You won’t get the answer you want

E no Dey hard to fish out amala turners

popizaino:
There are some light that not even the combine principalities and powers of Ekiti and ikwere can dim 😂. If you know you know.

Airmark will come and tell me sky sport is not credible enough😂😂

Jorginho too would have loved Sarri to return, while at Chelsea. No biggie.

Imagine a useless Pochettino that didn't know how to bring the best out of Messi, want to come and do that on Ikebe Sterling. Thunder wan fire you and your Pochettino abi? 😄

Ellexy:
The contribution to the winning is the key point here not subjective rankings. Some might have more goals than others, more assists, more chances created, more defensive tackles, more skills, more dribbles etc. It's all for one purpose and that is winning.

Bro you are spinning this thing now.

You said outside goal nothing matter for football again because goals give win.
And I tell you their is a lot football offers outside goals.

Now you are mentioning chance created, more skill, more dribble, more tackles remember all this can happen in a match and their will still be no goal.

Stick to goals is all football get to offer mantra no amala turning.
You can have goal and still not win.

This is so easy to see and you are only trying to be smart by half.

If you're ever in need of very ridiculous opinions about football, just enter Chelsea thread..

Today's own be say, the only primary thing about a striker, which is scoring, is considered secondary ..

OVA200:
I will answer your question with a question.

Is goal the only work of a striker?

Is it only goal that halland use to score?? What of pressing??

OVA200:
Bro you are spinning this thing now.

You said outside goal nothing matter for football again because goals give win.
And I tell you their is a lot football offers outside goals.

Now you are mentioning chance created, more skill, more dribble, more tackles remember all this can happen in a match and their will still be no goal.

Stick to goals is all football get to offer mantra no amala turning.
You can have goal and still not win.

This is so easy to see and you are only trying to be smart by half.

So to summarize your point Sir, if you were to be a manager you'll prefer Firmino to Haaland as your top 9?

CrystalTiger:
If you're ever in need of very ridiculous opinions about football, just enter Chelsea thread..

Today's own be say, the only primary thing about a striker, which is scoring, is considered secondary ..

. I swear bro. Some wack analyst. That just started watching ball in 2019

andrewbaba44:
You won’t get the answer you want

E no Dey hard to fish out amala turners

As in I go dey wonder how some people dey reason?? . Someone that have about 4 hatricks this season is struggling in man city.

The striker who is the highest goal scorer in EPL is struggling despite spending the first season in the league.

Some tripe you read on Nairaland. He's struggling in the EPL like Osimhen, who is the highest scorer in Serie A, is also struggling.

Lols. Apart from scoring goals, I guess a striker also has to help the team defend and do some midfield work.

What's the primary job of a striker if not to score goals?

Any other thing is jara

Eazzii:
Oga ova200 is Haaland struggling?
(Simple yes or no.)

Try to understand or go back and follow the Convo from the beginning.

The phrase that folks are prying on is outside goals halland offer city nothing hence the reason city is struggling this season compare to the previous years.

Halland is poacher and without service they tend to suffer but their some striker can build up play with team like benzema, lewandowski Kane etc.

Halland with his goals will be useless but those three up there without goals will be useful.

This Chelsea thread is full of shocking takes, wey go won run u mad with laugh

CrystalTiger:
So to summarize your point Sir, if you were to be a manager you'll prefer Firmino to Haaland as your top 9?

Firmino is mid at best.

But I will prefer Harry Kane, benzema or lewandowski in my team ahead of halland, lukaku, Ibrahimovic.

Borntosmoke:
Is it only goal that halland use to score?? What of pressing??

Good we are getting somewhere.

At least you agree that after goals their something else a striker should do.

Halland pressing is good but not top level yet.

OVA200:
Good we are getting somewhere.

At least you agree that after goals their something else a striker should do.

Halland pressing is good but not top level yet.

Just see your takes. Halland is just 22 and you're comparing him with much older and more experienced players like Benzema, Harry Kane who have developed many aspects of their game over the years.

Who told you those strikers had all the aspects of their game you see today developed at that top level when at Haaland's age?

All these funny takes on this thread just like the one with the brain and ball problem.

andrewbaba44:
Won’t forget when gbanaldo fans was dreaming of winning the World Cup after defeating Switzerland 6-1

Is this picture real or photoshopped??

OVA200:
Good we are getting somewhere.

At least you agree that after goals their something else a striker should do.

Halland pressing is good but not top level yet.

Halland at 22 has managed to nearly perfect the art of goal scoring. Plus he's showcasing this on a regular in the best league in the world. That's a feat that is extremely rare in football.

Most top-tier strikers don't reach this scary level until their mid twenties.

At 22, every other skill can still be learnt and added to the package.

People are getting this so wrong.

You should endeavors to know the genesis of a discussion before rushing to enter.

Nobody said Halland is struggling at city.

Someone raise the point that without his goals he offer nothing to city and that affect their offerall play.
Which is true.

So that makes some people ask for a strikers role aside scoring.

So to clarify:
Goals are the primary duty of a striker.
So from that statement then their is secondary roles of a striker as well.
If a striker is good in only scoring and lack considerably in other aspect then without his goal he will useless and can only play in some system or team e.g lukaku.

But if a striker is lacking at his primary role and very good at his secondary roles then it at best he convert back to another role because he won't achieve much and will also hinder the team.

But the best type of strikers are the ones that are good at the primary duties and still good or above average at their secondary roles because they fit into any system or teams. e.g lewandowski Kane Suarez etc.

This is the factors that differentiate average, good and phenomenal strikers.

Shalom.

CrystalTiger:
If you're ever in need of very ridiculous opinions about football, just enter Chelsea thread..

Today's own be say, the only primary thing about a striker, which is scoring, is considered secondary ..

A lorry of budweiser for you.
If no be potter is better than tuchel without trophies, na ziyech should start ahead of any chelsea left winger or Haaland is struglling with 27 in 25 games.
I could go on but hand dey pain me.

He dey mention Kane, Suarez, Benzema in comparison with a 22-year-old to show those strikers are better than Haaland yet he failed to tell us which of those strikers scored the highest goals in their first season in the best league in the world at the age 22.

nateevs:
Halland at 22 has managed to nearly perfect the art of goal scoring. On to of this, he's doing it on a regular in the best league in the world. That's a feat that is extremely rare in football.

Most top-tier strikers don't reach this scary level until their mid twenties.

At 22, every other skill can still be learnt and added to the package.

Good.
I like people that can contribute intelligently not those loud-mouthed empty drums.

Halland is phenomenal goal scorer and it's scary what he is doing at his age.
It's good you agree their some other aspect of his game he needs to develop.

Most top strikers today don't reach this level at 22 truly but they showed sign early on.
Lewandowski has been slick with his close control, powerful shot with both legs, good passing range, dribbling, press resistance right from the first moment I set my eyes on him in 2012. Not at today's level but it's glaring then; Same with benzema, Suarez, mbappe etc.

IF he can develop other aspect then he will be in tier above his peers but if he can't then it will lower his peak ceiling.

A001:
Just see your takes. Halland is just 22 and you're comparing him with much older and more experienced players like Benzema, Harry Kane who have developed many aspects of their game over the years.

Who told you those strikers had all the aspects of their game you see today developed at that top level when at Haaland's age?

All these funny takes on this thread just like the one with the brain and ball problem.

Good angle.

But please read my reply to nateev I think it answer this.