₦airaland Forum

Nemesis4you:
Chin... churn out ships like pancakes , at this rate they will be bigger than all others combined

Exnavyboy62:
The P@k!st@n! airforce inducts the new, cutting edge, 4.5 generation JF-17C block 3. The aircraft is reported to have the DNA of the Chengdu J20 and it is made up of 50% composite material.

Nemesis4you:
Yes and no

Incase you didn't know IAF pilots annual flight hours is higher than that of USAF pilots

Avionics and muntions advantage definitely USAF

But than IAF gets to work with Russian , Israeli, French and Ind... avionics & muntions , if one was to consider it worthwhile then ok, otherwise also ok

Tactics USAF is own while IAF tactics are own mixed with which it considers best of both western and eastern world , introduces unpredictability in my opinion

Yet still USAF have been the trend setters for long and invested in tactics for long so I will give them the advantage



I can't say who will kill whom bec as I always say things like this are unpredictable, so no point speculating

But as far as I know kinematic performance of Su30 is good, su30 is both a bomb/missile truck + dogfighter , but to enter dogfight it will need to sacrifice some of its heavy load

In theory atleast it makes sense detect first shoot first in bvr engagement bec u r not factoring in the jammers, su30 employs Israeli DRFM based jammers which will negate that advantage, WSO in the rear needs to earn his pay

As for AWACS depends on the what either side employs , phalcons with Israeli radar is no slouch



1st kinematic performance is related to the payload especially sustained turn rate and acceleration

I am not aware of F15c kinematic specs and bec many of those specs are variable depending on the load , in my opinion it will be a exercise in futility to compare them with another aircraft, but than I leave it to u to decide

Tvc brings in lot of capabilities which in the right hands will be handful



Su30 had hmd for donkey years , even the k versions
And on top of that IRST is organic to Su30

But than again I can't say whose is better , I will give the benefit of doubt to F15C atleast on paper


Missiles advantage I will give it to US atleast on paper, but than again it's easy bec it's not my ass or your ass in the line , russian philosophy of bvr engagement is unique they try to engage adversary by mixing up the shots with multiple types and su30mki will further complicate things by employing Iderby, Asraam ir guided which can be fired at bvr ranges , Astra series, python 5 which can hit targets behind the aircraft and even more funnier if they integrate mica series

Exnavyboy62:
The P@k!st@n! airforce inducts the new, cutting edge, 4.5 generation JF-17C block 3. The aircraft is reported to have the DNA of the Chengdu J20 and it is made up of 50% composite material.

Exnavyboy62:
Honestly speaking you are right, it's seems like China prints out it's defence equipments like paper. Always launching brand new weapons in multitude every year in, year out.

Nemesis4you:
DNA of j20

And previously I read in twitter DNA of j10

Nemesis4you:
Dhruvs in INS vikrant

Tochex101:
onee-chan, arigato for the write up.

davefurn:
Hmm, alright

Exnavyboy62:
Well this is insightful. I guess North Korea did commit some atrocities that made Japan view them with a negative lens.
Though I think we shouldn't use the actions of Kim Jong Un's grandfather and the North Korea of then
(who committed the crime of kidnapping Japanese nationals and forcing them to act as spies), to judge Kim Jong Un and North Korea of present.

Nevertheless the fact that North Korea has nuclear weapons that can reach as far as Japanese waters and beyond, that's just enough to send chills down the spine of anyone within the strike zone. And I understand that a lot of Japanese don't want to go through the horrors of conflict again after witnessing that of WW2, but just as the saying goes; "If you want peace, prepare for war".

I wish you and all of Japan peace, hopeful that you don't get caught in the Super Powers tussle(God have mercy on Ukraine) cause Japan is one of the largest manufacturing hubs in the world. I wonder what the world will be like without Japan. No electronic devices, No vehicles, no industrial equipments, what else could ever go wrong??

peacefull:
Hello! I hope this is to me.
Thank you so much for writing Japanese!
And Onee chan!
I'm feeling like young lady now
I appreciate you!!

In fact, I'm a Obaa chan!

Tochex101:
Ganbatte Kudasai.....little Japanese i pick up from the animes I watch and enjoy.

Exnavyboy62:
Honestly speaking you are right, it's seems like China prints out it's defence equipments like paper. Always launching brand new weapons in multitude every year in, year out.

Nemesis4you:
In UAE for exercise

Exnavyboy62:
Is that a JF-17 aircraft beside the HAL Tejas or are my eyes deceiving me??