₦airaland Forum

Coldie:
After seeing what happened at the February 2023 elections, and what's currently going on right now in Lagos, I have come to the conclusion that Nigeria is bad because the kind of an average Nigerian is full of wickedness and evil.

We have Apc, Pdp and now Labour party, all had their various presidential candidates from different sections of the country, Labour Party won the elections and was rigged out openly.

Apc supporters are saying igbos are not wise in politics, igbos will learn, this and that.

Nigerian politics is a dirty game fueled by evil, selfishness and greed, Chibuike Amaechi was one of the founders of Apc, he supported Buhari and allowed the SW get VP slot on the hope that after they had their 8years he will be considered for the next 8years.

How did it play out, did Chibuike Amaechi not do anything right? Apc was willing to do a Muslim Muslim ticket to further their agenda.

To me Multi party system in Nigerian politics has failed whole fully, if igbos say they won't support Apc despite the fact that it's a known fact that Apc has failed whole fully, they are seen as enemies of Nigeria, but if core northerners say they are not supporting labour party it's ok.

If supporting another political party is a taboo in Nigeria, where people threaten violence and bad intentions against you why not we collapse this multi party system and we become a one party state where power is rotated amongst the 6 geopolitical zones?

waynetee:
You are contradicting yourself, you said they rigged peter obi, you also said the north didn't vote for Peter obi.

What is then rigged if they didn't vote for him?

Peter obi didn't get vote in the north because he wasn't popular there, thats it.

Coldie:
Tinubu is from osun state and then u said is he not a Nigerian but same u people saw a Nigerian called Rhodes Victor and said he can't rule Lagos because he is half Igbo half Yoruba. Is GRV also not human abi is he a ghost?

If Peter obi is power drunk he would have installed his wife as senator the way Tinubu did, he would also appoint his children into political offices all over anambra. Which political office in Nigeria or anambra can u point that Peter obi installed his children in?

Coldie:
For 8years Buhari was in power, Tinubu was close to not just Buhari but the corridors of power he visits Buhari regularly to advise him, what changed? The country became worse.

As at 1991 before FCT was moved to Abuja Lagos was already the most developed state in Nigeria, when u are already the most developed state in Nigeria, all u need to do is add some finishing touches to cement it, that's all Tinubu did.

Even with all the finishing touches Lagos still has 4th world mentality, if somebody like Mc oluomo can be elevated to power, anybody who thinks Tinubu is coming to perform miracle in Nigeria is wasting his time.

Chinese would come build roads, bridges, buildings, economy will still be zero, security zero, corruption zero. At the end of the 8years he will tell u he tried his best that he won't kill himself, then they will appoint another person to take over then rig him into power.

In Nigeria there has never been an election where the rigging was this obvious.

Coldie:
For 8years Buhari was in power, Tinubu was close to not just Buhari but the corridors of power he visits Buhari regularly to advise him, what changed? The country became worse.

As at 1991 before FCT was moved to Abuja Lagos was already the most developed state in Nigeria, when u are already the most developed state in Nigeria, all u need to do is add some finishing touches to cement it, that's all Tinubu did.

Even with all the finishing touches Lagos still has 4th world mentality, if somebody like Mc oluomo can be elevated to power, anybody who thinks Tinubu is coming to perform miracle in Nigeria is wasting his time.

Chinese would come build roads, bridges, buildings, economy will still be zero, security zero, corruption zero. At the end of the 8years he will tell u he tried his best that he won't kill himself, then they will appoint another person to take over then rig him into power.

In Nigeria there has never been an election where the rigging was this obvious.

Kasdat5:
Who are the "we" you are always refering too ??
It's only an inexposed fellow that will fault someone on his identity . Obama's origin was Kenya & for once , no one brought it up , it's only in 9ja ,& we are quick to condemn xenophobic attack , racism metted on us .

It's in Nigerians constitution to vote & be voted for , once you meet the requirements . Bush senior was a president , 8 years later his son Bush Jnr became a president too , no one cried installation .
Explain how Tinubu installed his relation as you said , if not through due process .
Like I earlier said , only working together will make Nigeria move forward .

9japride:
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It's quite unfortunate. Even a dummy will perform well in Lagos will all the available infrastructure on ground. Those who are product of thugs and religious fanatics are the major problem in this country. Tilibu just need the post of president as a retirement home. I won't be surprised if urchins make up a lack chunk of the special to the president elect. Just imagine the kind of shallow and bigoted advice they will be dishing out to the president

Coldie:
My point is why are u giving Tinubu benefits of doubts but u guys can't fir GRV?

Coldie:
After seeing what happened at the February 2023 elections, and what's currently going on right now in Lagos, I have come to the conclusion that Nigeria is bad because the kind of an average Nigerian is full of wickedness and evil.

We have Apc, Pdp and now Labour party, all had their various presidential candidates from different sections of the country, Labour Party won the elections and was rigged out openly.

Apc supporters are saying igbos are not wise in politics, igbos will learn, this and that.

Nigerian politics is a dirty game fueled by evil, selfishness and greed, Chibuike Amaechi was one of the founders of Apc, he supported Buhari and allowed the SW get VP slot on the hope that after they had their 8years he will be considered for the next 8years.

How did it play out, did Chibuike Amaechi not do anything right? Apc was willing to do a Muslim Muslim ticket to further their agenda.

To me Multi party system in Nigerian politics has failed whole fully, if igbos say they won't support Apc despite the fact that it's a known fact that Apc has failed whole fully, they are seen as enemies of Nigeria, but if core northerners say they are not supporting labour party it's ok.

If supporting another political party is a taboo in Nigeria, where people threaten violence and bad intentions against you why not we collapse this multi party system and we become a one party state where power is rotated amongst the 6 geopolitical zones?

Coldie:
I don't fear the shallow and bigoted thinking I fear 8year, because I know since inec has declared him president and unseating him is between 8 to 100% chabcs. 8years is a long time. Nigeria has suffered too much.

In Nigeria people are looking for me because I was a full time Buhari supporter, now they are all blaming me for their suffering's. Last time u called an old friend he was blaming me, I thought it was just blame until my area that u thought it was a full blown estate was atta jed by armed robbers and they came to only my house, I excelled in life but it had nothing to do with Buharis government but they are hell bent on blaming and fvcking me up for supporting Buhari

Coldie:
U are an Apc supporter so am not surprised u can't speak the truth, if u can say 2023 elections was free and fair, u saying Peter obi is greed power drunk and cunny I won't be surprised.

A greedy man that's from osun state that was given the opportunity to lead a state that's not he's but converts it into his personal business, or the power drunk fellow that instead of him to test how much his people love him he is instead deploying touts to threaten steal ballot boxes, a cunny man that him and his party made us beleive bvas will stop rigging in Nigeria only for on that day they turned off their own bvas and started writing the results themselves.

Coldie:
Tinubu is from osun state and then u said is he not a Nigerian but same u people saw a Nigerian called Rhodes Victor and said he can't rule Lagos because he is half Igbo half Yoruba. Is GRV also not human abi is he a ghost?

If Peter obi is power drunk he would have installed his wife as senator the way Tinubu did, he would also appoint his children into political offices all over anambra. Which political office in Nigeria or anambra can u point that Peter obi installed his children in?

9japride:
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8 years is no beans, even 4 years if not properly managed by our political leaders can have a negative effect on the economy. The post of Nigeria president is very powerful due to our weak institution. Though, PDP messed up and were too proud and they never saw reasons to change for the better.
I never expected any improvement on APC in 2015, because their flag bearer was not properly equipped for leadership position. Though, you are lucky that Nigerians are not violent like other countries in the world were their citizens work in unity in achieving anything.
Our problem is mainly tribalism spiced with religious fanaticism. Now a large number of people have voted Tilibu, I hope they all have their special market, banks, industries, housing estates and other reserved benefits? The hate in this country will one day be over full and everyone will answer him papa name.
A lot of people are just naturally wicked and most of them carry their attitude to foreign countries. It's difficult to relate with a fellow countryman smoothly in foreign country without being suspicious of one another.
I see those fellow countrymen who use to say that Igbos can never be president as wild animals to be avoided. They are capable of ensuring that the Igbo race get's wiped out from the Nigerian space. Our value system needs to be reconsidered, a lot of people thrive in envy, bitterness and wickedness. No patriotism in the country, it's all about selfish interest. They are the wicked people that eventually gets into leadership positions. Just imagine those urchins who are usually listed here in nairaland, get's into leadership positions in country? They will carry on with their wicked and bigoted attitude by implementing archaic and vindictive policies in order for their perceived enemies (Igbos) to suffer.
And yet on Sundays/Fridays they all go to their various religious centres to pretend as religious things.
I have tried a lot to let people understand their choices of selection of political leaders have a major impact in the day to day activities of their lives. I will need to chill for a while, since tribalism/religious fanaticism has fried a lot of people's brains and they will never see reasons to stop it. Experience is the best teacher. We just hope for the best.

BentizilL:
Stop lying, TINUBU can rule because he's Yoruba not Nigerian... Be truthful, will you accept someone like chinedu that's openly anti Igbo to rule in Anambra?

Don't be unfortunate with your rubbish and improper analysis..🧏
How will People believe in Peter Obi children or wife when he failed them as a governor?... He simply cannot because he was failure whose children and wife can't win anything. If not Igbo tribalism, how will you want to force a failure like Obi on Nigeria..

Coldie:
Peter obi won Akwa ibom, Bayelsa and Rivers state clear, theres a reason y at first Atiku was protesting the results but decided to back out from the court proceedings, cause he knows if they decide to scrutinize the voting of those 3 states Peter obi won clearly, Tinubu passed Obi with just 2million votes, if they decide to scrutinize the election of those 3 states once they remove rivers where Apc won Apc votes would reduce by over 1million, once they remove the ones for Rivers and Akwa ibom pdp own would reduce by over 1million toeing them with labour party.

And I know even if u sleep wakeup pdp or Apc can never win those 3states. There governors know this even Inec Chairman knows this, that's y he is frustrating the court process.

If una beleive una weight why una dae fear?

Vinnie2000:
Dat's it, Bro.

40% of Atiku's votes are actually for PETER OBI. 😏

INEC Stole Akwa-Ibom, Bayelsa, Taraba votes and gave it to Atiku/PDP.
And Then Benue, Kogi and Kwara to APC/Tinubu.

The Evil INEC chairman, Yakubu did this to drag OBI to 3rd place.

But Obi will get his PRESIDENTIAL mandate back. 😎

Johnjustice:
Sore loosers. INEC should allow people vote in their states only, in next governorship elections.

Johnjustice:
Edo, Efik, Igbo, yorubas, Hausa, we are one Nigeria, we all share this space called Nigeria, let us build it, let us love and appreciate one another. We all are strong, industrious, and resilient.

If we unite as a people, we will achieve economic and social freedoms from the Western Europeans neo colonialists.

Coldie:
I try not to be trubalistic but this is the reason y people who know and see truth would always respect an Igbo man, we are straight forward. If we like u or hate u, u would know. We don't act a fake friend waiting for opportunity to stab u. Same u advocating division and people to vote only in their state of origin. Same u is advocating for Nigerian unity here:



U people are never straight forward, just full of deception

Coldie:
2050 I won't be surprised if police still stand on the road collecting money, I won't be surprised if 2050 we still have nepa problem, I won't be surprised if by then they are still snatching ballot boxes at polling units.

I only pity this country

The military gave us the constitution that we are killing to defend today, so why demonizing the military?
The military handed over to politicians who asked for democracy. Yet these 'quasi-democrats' cannot manage a simple election that other democratic countries organise without rancour and rigging. They claim to be democrats but threaten other Nigerians from freely voting their choice. They kill, they maim, they mutilate results and steal people's votes.

Nigeria's election swallows 300 billion Naira every four years, voting is done on a flimsy paper and fake results are manually mutilated and written in the bedroom of politicians after collation at the polling stations. Are the voters who stand in the rain and sunshine that worthless?

Political thugs are everywhere threatening and killing people who want to vote their choice. How is that different from the Liberian war where people's hands were cut off to prevent them from voting?

The Solution
In the event that judiciary becomes too cowardly to call a spade a spade and end rubber-stampping this open electoral heist that has negated every norms of democratic process, the military must must not hesitate to save the country from being thrown into anarchy by politicians who do not believe in the rights of others in a free democracy.

How will they do this? An interim government should take charge and fix the electoral system to ensure that minimal or zero human interference is allowed in our electoral system.

A 100% electronic voting system is what is needed now. Voters get accredited with their voter's card ONLY ONCE, and then vote in a paperless electronic manner, the votes are recorded and sent directly to the server and seen on the INEC IREV in REAL-TIME.
It has to be transparent, so that losers and winners will agree with the results.

Rigging of elections usually happens between when ballots are counted and when the votes are collated by INEC. That is usually when the results are mutilated or destroyed and the fake ones recorded..That should be stemmed in the tide by e-polling and e-collation and e-transmission of votes. A lot of money will be saved from printing worthless ballot papers that can be snatched anytime by political thugs trying to subvert the process.

Politicians who have vested interests cannot give us a perfect electoral system. When the debate for BVAS and IreV was brought up on the floor of the Senate last year, many sitting politicians afraid of loss of popularity back home, opposed the inclusion of clause 'INEC shall transmit electronically', this has given INEC and politicians the wherewithal to claim 'there is no network, we will transmit the votes when we get to the office', allowing the sustenance of an electoral system that is fraught with heavy irregularities.

Videos abound of INEC presiding officials who have been bribed by politicians telling the voters 'we will not upload until we get to the office', of course we know that once they get to their office (or the sitting rooms of politicians), the results are mutilated or changed outrightly. That's an insult to the Nigerian voters.

No politician will allow such reform to happen, not even Tinubu will let that happen. Only a dispassionate interim military government can institute an electoral reform that will be fair to all and hand it over to Nigerians.
We need to consider this a surgical procedure that will strengthen true democracy in the aftermath.

Johnjustice:
Though one nations but different state, idiot. The terms of our nationhood, is every state, then nation. Being one means tolerating each other,. living on peaceful coexistence. Ipob chasing out non igbos, making southeast unliveable is non tolerance, igbos trying to snatch another man's state, is calling for problem. Maybe you no understand English, the fact say we be friends or neighbors no mean say you go thief my house, or control my family. Ole.

rinzaugustine:
The embassies need to tighten visa rules so that they face the consequences of their actions of supporting bad governance because a lot of them have no trade or skills to improve themselves in Nigeria

AdaojoTheUrchin:
Nigeria is not ripe for a true democracy until education and electoral reforms are taken seriously.

Johnjustice:
Nnamdi Azikiwe was the first president of Nigeria, yet 3 years down the line, as soon as Ahmadu bello, and tafawa balewa entered power, igbos, emeka Nzeogwu and chinedu launched a coup, killing Ahmadu Bello, Sardauna,.and South South and southwest leaders, no Igbo leader was killed. You people are half smart, everyone sees your deception, this is why you will never get presidency. You igbos were cheering ESN and IPOB today they are enslaving you, see all your choices, see where it has landed you today. No sense.

Coldie:
I used to post on Nairaland alot, but the tribalism here drove me away.

Alot of Nigerians are moving to Twitter, but them don carry their wickedness go there