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Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Biodun556(m): 12:09pm On May 08, 2023
Nigeria bought 24 alpha jets in 1980s, ever since, the jets have been serving as major back bone of Nigerian airforce.
Since 1991, Dassault had stop producing the jet which is now obsolete, no longer in use in most countries that are operating it.

The fight against Boko Haram exposed Nigeria air force and alpha jet inability to cope in the modern war fare. Boko Haram shot down the plane, Nigeria air force could not provide support for the ground forces resulting in high casualties and made the war last longer than expected.

However, Nigeria air force can not transit to 4th and 5th generation fighter jets with alpha jet experience which is second generation. The air force personnel have to do it gradually. This is the reason why Nigeria ordered for 24 Italian M346 fighter jet.

There is M346 FT and M346 FA, Nigeria ordered M346 FA

The M346 is purposely built as a light attack and as a trainer for modern fighter jets like SU 57, F 35 etc. This could be the reason why Nigeria bought only 3 JF17 (4.5 gene.) to gradually make the air force acquire more experience and transit smoothly to modern air fighter.

Advance and security conscious country always go for latest fighter jets and military equipments even without war to make their armed forces constantly in tune with modern technology

Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Biodun556(m): 12:10pm On May 08, 2023
. undecided
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by muykem: 12:13pm On May 08, 2023
Buhari actually did a lot of work on Nigeria military, Tinubu administration should continue from there.
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Jennymine(f): 12:15pm On May 08, 2023
Seriously
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Mynd44: 12:21pm On May 08, 2023
Ask Putin to sell SU-35 class fighters to you and hear what he will sau
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Biodun556(m): 12:21pm On May 08, 2023
muykem:
Buhari actually did a lot of work on Nigeria military, Tinubu administration should continue from there.

If his predecessors have been doing that periodically, there won't be Boko Haram by now

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Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Biodun556(m): 1:14pm On May 08, 2023
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Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Biodun556(m): 2:07pm On May 08, 2023
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Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Biodun556(m): 5:55pm On May 08, 2023
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Biodun556(m): 8:05pm On May 08, 2023
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Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Parachoko: 8:19pm On May 08, 2023
Biodun556:


The M346 is purposely built as a light attack and as a trainer for modern fighter jets like SU 57, F 35 etc. This could be the reason why Nigeria bought only 3 JF17 (4.5 gene.) to gradually make the air force acquire more experience and transit smoothly to modern air fighter.



I disagree

NAF do not have the money to spend on a fighter jet like the F 35 and I strongly doubt the US will even sell it to Nigeria.

If toh say NAF get the money to spend on the jet, officers will be perfectly trained on how to operate the aircraft

JF 17 is cheap and very cheap to maintain, that's why we bought it.

Nigeria do not also need a F35 right now, who we wan use am oppress? Benin, Cameroon, Liberia abi nah Togo? grin

With our 3 JF 17 and our Super Tucanos, and other numerous aircraft, the NAF is the most powerful in West Africa.

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Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by baralatie(m): 8:27pm On May 08, 2023
How much does a fifty gen fighter jet cost
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Biodun556(m): 8:30pm On May 08, 2023
Parachoko:
I disagree

NAF do not have the money to spend on a fighter jet like the F 35 and I strongly doubt the US will even sell it to Nigeria.

If toh say NAF get the money to spend on the jet, officers will be perfectly trained on how to operate the aircraft

JF 17 is cheap and very cheap to maintain, that's why we bought it.

Nigeria do not also need a F35 right now, who we wan use am oppress? Benin, Cameroon, Liberia abi nah Togo? grin

With our 3 JF 17 and our Super Tucanos, and other numerous aircraft, the NAF is the most powerful in West Africa.


Nigeria has the money. The air force is technically not fit to operate 5th generation fighters
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by baralatie(m): 8:37pm On May 08, 2023
F 35 costs a whooping $120 million for just one o

Abeg make una manage
Third gen first

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Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by helinues: 8:45pm On May 08, 2023
The op is probably in Military

If I am not mistaken, you are the one who suggested the lowering of flag when Attahiru had helicopter crash
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Parachoko: 8:46pm On May 08, 2023
Biodun556:



Nigeria has the money.
grin

How much is Nigeria Defense Budget for year 2023 make we compare am with that of Algeria defense Budget since you said Nigeria have the money.

Algeria Defense Budget for 2023 is about $18,000,000,000. That figure is just about 10% of their 2023 Budget.

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Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by helinues: 8:47pm On May 08, 2023
Parachoko:
grin

How much is Nigeria Defense Budget for year 2023 make we compare am with that of Algeria defense Budget since you said Nigeria have the money.

Algeria Defense Budget for 2023 is about $18,000,000,000. That figure is just about 10% of their 2023 Budget.

If we stop the wastage, we can do better than what our current budget on defence is
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Parachoko: 8:49pm On May 08, 2023
muykem:
Buhari actually did a lot of work on Nigeria military, Tinubu administration should continue from there.
You're absolutely right

Buhari spent $4.7 billion on the military in 2021, that's the highest amount of money budgeted for the military since 1960.

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Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Parachoko: 8:53pm On May 08, 2023
helinues:


If we stop the wastage, we can do better than what our current budget on defence is
We must also find a way to generate more income

Government should also expand the tax bracket instead of just increasing and increasing tax.

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Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by helinues: 8:55pm On May 08, 2023
Parachoko:
We must also find a way to generate more income

Government should also expand the tax bracket instead of just increasing and increasing tax.

If all those loans we have been obtaining are being utilized for the meant project, the government tax income should have improved more than this. But when the loan is inflated, you can never get value for your money. Funnily, I just created a thread about our debt ceiling
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Biodun556(m): 9:13pm On May 08, 2023
Parachoko:
I disagree

NAF do not have the money to spend on a fighter jet like the F 35 and I strongly doubt the US will even sell it to Nigeria.

If toh say NAF get the money to spend on the jet, officers will be perfectly trained on how to operate the aircraft

JF 17 is cheap and very cheap to maintain, that's why we bought it.

Nigeria do not also need a F35 right now, who we wan use am oppress? Benin, Cameroon, Liberia abi nah Togo? grin

With our 3 JF 17 and our Super Tucanos, and other numerous aircraft, the NAF is the most powerful in West Africa.

It's not about oppressing and it is not about now. If Egypt is able to afford such jet, why can't Nigeria do same

One F 35 cost 75 million dollars and Nigeria paid 800 million dollars for 12 super tucano
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Biodun556(m): 9:31pm On May 08, 2023
baralatie:
How much does a fifty gen fighter jet cost

F 35 cost 75 million dollars
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by LordAdam16: 9:39pm On May 08, 2023
Parachoko:
I disagree

NAF do not have the money to spend on a fighter jet like the F 35 and I strongly doubt the US will even sell it to Nigeria.

If toh say NAF get the money to spend on the jet, officers will be perfectly trained on how to operate the aircraft

JF 17 is cheap and very cheap to maintain, that's why we bought it.

Nigeria do not also need a F35 right now, who we wan use am oppress? Benin, Cameroon, Liberia abi nah Togo? grin

With our 3 JF 17 and our Super Tucanos, and other numerous aircraft, the NAF is the most powerful in West Africa.

Agree with most of what you said except the bolded.

No country of Nigeria's stature whether at war or in peacetime has an anemic military.

Do not compare us to the forgettable misfits we call neighbors. Compare us with our "mates".

We cannot be competing for a UN Permanent Security Council Seat with the likes of Germany, India, South Africa, Japan and want to make do with 3 JF 17 and Super Tucanos. Make una try buy shame.

Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, and even Egypt have done well to limit the activity of extremists in their respective territories.
The entire Sahel is our responsibility. Yet, we're getting smoked, while those aforementioned countries have much lower population density.
The entire Western Coast of the continent is our responsibility.
We should be a respectable middle power adding some teeth to maintaining global stability. We should be assigning our fleets and squadrons to freedom of navigation missions and joint patrols led by superpowers; not only token peacekeeping missions and exercises.

The sorry state of our military is a 21st century rehash of why sub-Saharan Africa failed to develop an epoch-defining civilization since the dawn of time. Lack of natural enemies makes you content to be an unsophisticated brute. What happens if the current world order collapses and conquests become geopolitically acceptable? The Europeans and Maghrebites will coast in and shiv us thoroughly like their forbears did.

Or do you think the current plebiscite will last forever?

Powerful members of the ruling classes in the Middle East are funding Islamist extremists in Nigeria and we can't cough. The US/UK and co can undermine our security posture without response. Obama stationed warships before the 2015 election to intimidate GEJ. SA did as well during the Gbagbo incident. We had no countermeasure.

What happens when someone motivated enough decides it is in their best interest to back one of our many separatist groups?

At what point would it become practical for us to build a military that matches our geopolitical aspirations? Is it after the US has built off world transport infrastructure in the solar system securing near-exclusive access to resources in the Asteroid Belt? Or after China has started mining the moon? Or after India blankets the entire planet in new-gen satellites?

But sure, compare yourself with Benin and Liberia. Says a lot about how you appraise yourself and Nigeria's stature on the world stage. Nigeria, by the way, that'd become the third most populous country by the turn of the century only behind the tre comma club members--India and China.

Congo is literally right there with tons of resources that we can gatekeep from the global economy and extract substract major economic advantages. We can literally establish a base there, cordon a section off from the warring oafs, and become a dominant player in the global green energy revolution. But according to your royal f*ckness, Togo is our competition.

#endofrant

-Lord

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Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by onumadu: 9:40pm On May 08, 2023
Naive question.
The Russians who built SU-57 haven't even fielded it verifiably in war theaters, but you in Nigeria want to have it.
You think money is everything. lol

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Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Biodun556(m): 12:28am On May 09, 2023
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Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Biodun556(m): 6:37am On May 09, 2023
baralatie:
F 35 costs a whooping $120 million for just one o

Abeg make una manage
Third gen first

And Nigeria purchased 12 super tucano with 800 million dollars
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Sltp: 6:45am On May 09, 2023
muykem:
Buhari actually did a lot of work on Nigeria military, Tinubu administration should continue from there.
Keep deluding yourself. Under Buhari, insecurity rose to an unprecedented level across the country.

Before Buhari insecurity and terrorism was restricted to about 3 local government but immediately he entered, he empowered his footsoldiers to terrorize the whole country
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by tishbite42: 7:42am On May 09, 2023
No be only 5th gen
Na 6th gen
Even the 2nd gen jets una no dey use am well

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Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by backtovillage: 7:49am On May 09, 2023
You funny sha. You didn't say fourth-gen fighter. How many countries are making the fifth gen fighter?
The only fifth gen fighter available for sale is the F-35, and you should know how much it cost.
China and Russia are not ready to sell their fifth -gen fighter for now.

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Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by backtovillage: 7:53am On May 09, 2023
Sltp:
Keep deluding yourself. Under Buhari, insecurity rose to an unprecedented level across the country.

Before Buhari insecurity and terrorism was restricted to about 3 local government but immediately after he entered, he empowered his footsoldiers to terrorize the whole country
TBH Buhari equipped the military. But what they fail to understand is that the insecurity we have has nothing to do with the military(external security) but the police(internal security). Even if Buhari gives the military 10000 tanks it wouldn't solve the problem
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by Cooleasy(m): 8:42am On May 09, 2023
LordAdam16:


Agree with most of what you said except the bolded.

No country of Nigeria's stature whether at war or in peacetime has an anemic military.

Do not compare us to the forgettable misfits we call neighbors. Compare us with our "mates".

We cannot be competing for a UN Permanent Security Council Seat with the likes of Germany, India, South Africa, Japan and want to make do with 3 JF 17 and Super Tucanos. Make una try buy shame.

Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, and even Egypt have done well to limit the activity of extremists in their respective territories.
The entire Sahel is our responsibility. Yet, we're getting smoked, while those aforementioned countries have much lower population density.
The entire Western Coast of the continent is our responsibility.
We should be a respectable middle power adding some teeth to maintaining global stability. We should be assigning our fleets and squadrons to freedom of navigation missions and joint patrols led by superpowers; not only token peacekeeping missions and exercises.

The sorry state of our military is a 21st century rehash of why sub-Saharan Africa failed to develop an epoch-defining civilization since the dawn of time. Lack of natural enemies makes you content to be an unsophisticated brute. What happens if the current world order collapses and conquests become geopolitically acceptable? The Europeans and Maghrebites will coast in and shiv us thoroughly like their forbears did.

Or do you think the current plebiscite will last forever?

Powerful members of the ruling classes in the Middle East are funding Islamist extremists in Nigeria and we can't cough. The US/UK and co can undermine our security posture without response. Obama stationed warships before the 2015 election to intimidate GEJ. SA did as well during the Gbagbo incident. We had no countermeasure.

What happens when someone motivated enough decides it is in their best interest to back one of our many separatist groups?

At what point would it become practical for us to build a military that matches our geopolitical aspirations? Is it after the US has built off world transport infrastructure in the solar system securing near-exclusive access to resources in the Asteroid Belt? Or after China has started mining the moon? Or after India blankets the entire planet in new-gen satellites?

But sure, compare yourself with Benin and Liberia. Says a lot about how you appraise yourself and Nigeria's stature on the world stage. Nigeria, by the way, that'd become the third most populous country by the turn of the century only behind the tre comma club members--India and China.

Congo is literally right there with tons of resources that we can gatekeep from the global economy and extract substract major economic advantages. We can literally establish a base there, cordon a section off from the warring oafs, and become a dominant player in the global green energy revolution. But according to your royal f*ckness, Togo is our competition.

#endofrant

-Lord
You are a deep thinker.
Re: Why Nigeria Airforce Can't Use 5th Generation Fighter Jets by baralatie(m): 8:53am On May 09, 2023
Biodun556:


F 35 cost 75 million dollars

It Costa way more than $75 million except you want a water down.
And there are conditions attached which automatically does not allow Nigeria to buy,own or borrow the cheapest f35

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