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Samantha124:
Basically, yes.

I know one Nigerian married to one SA girl with 3 different baby daddies and all those 3 baby daddies are still alive.

She's a retired street girl..😂😂😂

But why lose your appetite?🤣🤣🤣🤣

I lost my appetite because there are fresh no baby mama beautiful young ladies in droves here in Nigeria in all the regions why go to SA and chase after street left overs isn't that a mess? Samantha say the truth .That's so upsetting to me though.

Lionessza6:
6. Where did you get the the percentages of our different bloodlines ? Who did this massive genetic testing and when ? What was their intention or Agenda ? Did they have anything to lose if these results didn't come up this way , or were those who funded this research going to be happy if the outcome was to the contrary?

Read the articles carefully. You will find your answers here. Take your time neh, its a lot to take in. Scientist and geneticist in general have no hidden agendas. They just run research and come up with findings. The data is the data and the interpretations are only that interpretations. Don't get too caught up with racist agendas or you will miss the real information.

The genetic evidence continues to point to the fact that though Bantu groups undoubted have Khoisan ancestry in them, they are and continue to be predominantly in terms of genetics Bantu. As far as how long they have been in Southern African spaces well that is in contention because as far as we know we cannot tell which groups splintered first and at what specific times they started moving

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature08795

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/873636#:~:text=By%20sequencing%20the%20complete%20mitochondrial%20genomes%20%E2%80%93%20which,lineages%20in%20some%20Bantu-speaking%20groups%20predominantly%20from%20Zambia.

Lionessza6:
7. Then you said
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only a small percentage of Khoisan can be found within our genes.. Maybe those living in the Northern Cape can be found with the high percentage of the Khoisan genes because they live amongst them, but as for the rest of the black South Africans, the Bantu genes dominate."

Now I'm going to take everyone reading for a ride around Mzantsi.

I will be posting famous people who have an average South African look, the looks you are mostly likely to find than others. You are free to correct me and point out the SA on my list that dont represent the average or the likely to encounter .

1. Exhibit 1:
Malema and his sidechick Ndlozi .

Malema: is on the darker side by complexion, he is of average height; I'd attribute this to his Bantu lineage. His face though is oval to roundish, and ofcourse you cannot miss his eyes or that region of his face , those are clearly khoi traits. So sisi, tell me what percentage is of Bantu or Khoe-San lineage is he carrying around ?.

Ndlozi: he has a facial features that could be found anywhere in Africa , but he is very short and with that his hair is not woolly and he obviously has mixed complexion ( normal or predominant among South Africans). Now tell me , is he more of a Bantu or Khoe-San, what percentage of these two groupings would you accord him ?

Exhibit 2: Manaka Ranaka.

She is shot or small( by normal normal* African standards). You cannot mistake her facial features for that of a Zambian lady . Her complexion though is very normal amongst a lot of African people outside of SA and her texture as well. So what percentage of her bloodline is Bantu or Khoe-San from your observation or learned view?

Exhibit 3

Gail Nkoane Mabalane

She has the body type that could be easily found around East Africans . However she is shorter than the average African and has those khoi cheekbones and ofcourse her facial bone structure. Rate her . Don't forget her husband Kabelo as well . His facial structure and eyes. His dark complexion , height and a bit of a bigger bone structure.

4.

Exhibit 4

Zikhona Somdaka ;
She is very tall and has a darker complexion. These are clearly Bantu traits. Her whole facial bone structure though with those high cheekbones and her eyes clearly come from the San( particularly Abathwa a Xhos clan from the San ), and that bone structure is found on almost all Xhosa women ; checkout the likes of Brenda fasie , Miriam Makeba , Ntsiki Mazwai etc.

So a small percentage of a new bloodline doesn't only wash down some features as we see with black Americans but it can also change their phenotype, in not just one or two people but millions ? .

The general South African man doesn't have strong bones like Samuel Eto for instance and neither is he small like the San , but they are generally a cross of the two. That my dear is evolution . The general SA woman is more voluptuous, short and generally on the lighter side complexion -wise compared to our central and West African counterparts . This is not just one or two , millions infact majority of us are like that. That is phenotype , and the SA weather didn't make us that way, but crossing of genes did.

MOST SA CARRY BOTH BLOODLINES IN ONE BODY ...IT COULD BE THE FACE LOOKING MORE SAN-ISH OR THE BODY RESEMBLING WHAT YOU FIND ELSEWHERE OR VICE VERSA. That is why I find it difficult to believe your percentages, how did you end with those?.

THe stupidity of this whole entire analysis is nauseating and pseudo scientific. Having Khoi phenotypes does not indicate the level of Khoi ancestry in a given population of Bantu south africans. Only a sample testing of populations would indicate this and the results continue to point to levels 25% Khoi ancestry in Bantu populations.

Do you know what gene introgression is? No matter how much khoisan females joined the Bantu groups the population would still continue to have higher bantu genes in them because each time they married and bore children the Bantu genes would be reintroduced back into the population or in other words introgressed back into the population.

You really need to stop listening to your old gogo tales neh!

Sepukku:
Read the articles carefully. You will find your answers here. Take your time neh, its a lot to take in. Scientist and geneticist in general have no hidden agendas. They just run research and come up with findings. The data is the data and the interpretations are only that interpretations. Don't get too caught up with racist agendas or you will miss the real information.

The genetic evidence continues to point to the fact that though Bantu groups undoubted have Khoisan ancestry in them, they are and continue to be predominantly in terms of genetics Bantu. As far as how long they have been in Southern African spaces well that is in contention because as far as we know we cannot tell which groups splintered first and at what specific times they started moving

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature08795

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/873636#:~:text=By%20sequencing%20the%20complete%20mitochondrial%20genomes%20%E2%80%93%20which,lineages%20in%20some%20Bantu-speaking%20groups%20predominantly%20from%20Zambia.

1.@ the bolded. Genetic evidence conducted by who , where and when?

2. @the first bolded. LMFAO, was it not scientists and geneticist who claimed we evolved from gorillas? Is this not the same crew who not so long ago drove the world mad, depressing economies trying to get people injected with their vaccine ?.

Researchers go into research to prove a point or something, that is an agenda . Now in most cases those who pay for this research always get the results they want . The research* is then always used as reference to justify the actions of the funder .

Morpheus forgive me for trusting my bantu educated brain and eyes more than I trust the said esteemed*humans .

Haven't you ever wondered why most Nigerian guys would usually say that SA girls are easy and promiscuous?

Because those are the kinds of girls that usually go for them here in SA, street girls.. Already they know that you guys like spending a lot of money on your women... With you guys, they know that they've won a lottery in exchange of giving you guys pussy because you want to have a taste of that famous SA ass, the same ass that SA guys have gotten tired of and trashed aside..

The same girls your brothers reject in Nigeria for being oloshos, they settle for them here.

If you don't believe me, you can feel free to test the waters yourself and good luck.

cejaypriesty:
I lost my appetite because there are fresh no baby mama beautiful young ladies in droves here in Nigeria in all the regions why go to SA and chase after street left overs isn't that a mess? Samantha say the truth .That's so upsetting to me though.

Lionessza6:
1.@ the bolded. Genetic evidence conducted by who , where and when?

Stop asking silly questions. The articles indicate who, where and when these research activity takes place and numerous journals of geneticists also have published articles. You are in denial

Lionessza6:
2. @the first bolded. LMFAO, was it not scientists and geneticist who claimed we evolved from gorillas? Is this not the same crew who not so long ago drove the world mad, depressing economies trying to get people injected with their vaccine ?.

Correction. The theory of human evolution does not state that we evolved from gorrilla but that we have a common ancestor as apes so that clearly shows how read you are on the topic.

Those vaccines work and there is empirical evidence to show this. Yes the corona virus fiasco was blown out of proportion but that's the greedy capitalist side of the medical industry and not the scientists involved in the research. Two different arguments.

Lionessza6:
Researchers go into research to prove a point or something, that is an agenda . Now in most cases those who pay for this research always get the results they want . The research* is then always used as reference to justify the actions of the funder

Data can be "interpreted" differently but the data extrapolated from the analysis continues to remain the same regardless. The data in the amount of Khoi DNA in Bantu continues to be consistent at a 25% basis. What people read from that message, depends.

Case in point. The average African American has btw 1-22 % european DNA when they are sequenced however this does mean they have some how evolved into a new species of Black people. They remain a predominantly African derived population at this point in time. This may change in the future but for now they are at 75% to 98% intervals African derived genetics.

Samantha124:
But she's telling the truth... I'm not trying to bash you guys or anything like that, but I've heard stories of some of those SA girls who have been with Nigerian guys getting rejected by SA guys afterwards.

One SA guy even ended his engagement after finding out that his fiancee was once with a Nigerian.

You guys should make sure you marry them because the chances of them getting rejected within the society after you leave them are very high... A week ago I saw some pictures of this other SA girl going around on YouTube and on social media, she is believed to have been involved with Nigerians, but now they've left her and she's financially down... She has nothing, but no one wants to help her and they keep telling her to go back to those Nigerians she was with and ask them for help.

So it's this bad?

White people do this aswell. Once a white woman has dated- and especially if she has biracial children from a black man- they don't want her back either.


Their logic is that, the reason why you dated outside your community to begin with is because you thought the grass was greener on the other side. Now that you're hurt, why are you coming back?


Most people stick to their own these men here don't get it

Sepukku:
THe stupidity of this whole entire analysis is nauseating and pseudo scientific. Having Khoi phenotypes does not indicate the level of Khoi ancestry in a given population of Bantu south africans. Only a sample testing of populations would indicate this and the results continue to point to levels 25% Khoi ancestry in Bantu populations.

Do you know what gene introgression is? No matter how much khoisan females joined the Bantu groups the population would still continue to have higher bantu genes in them because each time they married and bore children the Bantu genes would be reintroduced back into the population or in other words introgressed back into the population.

You really need to stop listening to your old gogo tales neh!

LMFAO, so I need to stop trusting logic and trust the science right ? . You can get nauseated all you want buddy . South African black people on average show both Bantu and Khoi traits ,this has made us look different or distinguishable from both the Khoi and the Central/ West Africans. What percentage of each bloodline runs through every SA or clan ,I would be sure of that if massive genetics testing was to be done by SA themselves and transparency was exercised. Anything else is BS to me. So there is no use posting articles or academic research for me to go through.......you will be wasting your time and energy really .

Samantha124:
Haven't you ever wondered why most Nigerian guys would usually say that SA girls are easy and promiscuous?

Because those are the kinds of girls that usually go for them here in SA, street girls.. Already they know that you guys like spending a lot of money on your women... With you guys, they know that they've won a lottery in exchange of giving you guys pussy because you want to have a taste of that famous SA ass, the same ass that SA guys have gotten tired of and trashed aside..

The same girls your brothers reject in Nigeria for being oloshos, they settle for them here.

If you don't believe me, you can feel free to test the waters yourself and good luck.

When I lived in SA. I didn't smash no Magoshas. The majority of the ladies I messed with were pretty much from all works and just liked my height, my sweet mouth, the texture of my hair and my long things.

Definitely not my pocket.

At least you and I can agree on something here.

Very valid points you made here... She's just desperate to win the argument and she's willing to do whatever it takes to make sure that she's the last man standing..

I immediately lost interest in the debate when I made a simple joke and the sister came guns blazing..😂😂😂... She's always worked up.

Sepukku:
THe stupidity of this whole entire analysis is nauseating and pseudo scientific. Having Khoi phenotypes does not indicate the level of Khoi ancestry in a given population of Bantu south africans. Only a sample testing of populations would indicate this and the results continue to point to levels 25% Khoi ancestry in Bantu populations.

Do you know what gene introgression is? No matter how much khoisan females joined the Bantu groups the population would still continue to have higher bantu genes in them because each time they married and bore children the Bantu genes would be reintroduced back into the population or in other words introgressed back into the population.

You really need to stop listening to your old gogo tales neh!

1Sharon:
So it's this bad?

White people do this aswell. Once a white woman has dated- and especially if she has biracial children from a black man- they don't want her back either.


Their logic is that, the reason why you dated outside your community to begin with is because you thought the grass was greener on the other side. Now that you're hurt, why are you coming back?


Most people stick to their own these men here don't get it

Please travel to countries like the UK, France, US, Canada and come back again with that statement that most people stick to their own. You will retract it quick quick.

Like I said, there are professional prostitutes..

Sepukku:
When I lived in SA. I didn't smash no Magoshas. The majority of the ladies I messed with were pretty much from all works and just liked my height, my sweet mouth, the texture of my hair and my long things.

Definitely not my pocket.

Lionessza6:
LMFAO, so I need to stop trusting logic and trust the science right ? . You can get nauseated all you want buddy . South African black people on average show both Bantu and Khoi traits ,this has made us look different or distinguishable from both the Khoi and the Central/ West Africans. What percentage of each bloodline runs through every SA or clan ,I would be sure of that if massive genetics testing was to be done by SA themselves and transparency was exercised. Anything else is BS to me. So there is no use posting articles or academic research for me to go through.......you will be wasting your time and energy really .

East Africans are also distinguishable from West Africans and less to Southern Africans. Have you wondered why?
The truth is there waiting for you to embrace. I can't force you. Cognitive dissonance is a hard thing to overcome.

SMH

Samantha124:
Like I said, there are professional prostitutes..

Every woman is at some level a prostitute. I don't know woman alive who has exchanged the coochi 100% completely free of charge.

Sepukku:
There are a class of SA Magosha and loose girls who go for Nigerians with money and there are a class of other types of SA girls who find Nigerian and West African men in general attractive because of what they bring in terms of their cultural nusiance as compared to SA men.

SA women have and continue to experience a lot of the after effects of what apartheid did to their parents in terms of absent fathers who had to leave families to earn a living somewhere else, growing up with their grand mothers out of neglect from mothers who abandoned them, abusive and highly promiscious husbands and boyfriends and general trauma from relationships with men.

This is the primary reason they gravitate to "other" types of African men including Nigerians. This is most evident in college campuses where there is a healthy mix of foreign students.



I have seen SA ladies married to a myriad of types of Nigerian men from broke students without jobs, pastors, Chefs, Lawyers, doctors, businessmen, 419ers and yes all the way down to security guards so that premise does not hold any water. You are not in the community so you wouldn't know.



Those are Magoshas that is their occupation.



This narrative you are peddling is a popular SA one born out of hatred for Nigerians in general and not so much actual fact. THe ladies you are speaking of here are already broken down magosha, alcoholic location type girls who are already bruised and don't do a service to their repuation by hanging out with hustler type Nigerian boys.

Now if a SA man rejects a SA lady who was married or in a relation with a Nigerian Doctor of good means then something is either wrong with their self esteem or they are generally just the usual Nigerian hating SA man.

A South african lady is trying to tell you as it is and you're not having it, straight from the horses mouth.

If she had been saying things you wanted to hear, you would not be going back and forth with her!

This is the same way deluded arrogant Nigerian men thought they were so desired by white women and so were so excited to japa to the US/UK. Only to complain and create topics on how they became incels.

Most people desire their own. This is the case all over the world. Ofcourse people date out, but it doesn't happen generally.

Don't worry once all Nigerian men japa en masses to South Africa thinking South african women will jump at them, there will be other African nationalities around that can ease your sexual tension.

Yep.

And one thing I've noticed about those SA girls that are involved with Nigerian guys is that they end up being corrupted by these Nigerian guys to a point that they would insult SA guys at every chance that they get, hence they end up getting stigmatized and rejected by SA guys afterwards.

They start adopting that culture of insulting their SA guys, the same way Nigerian guys would insult their Nigerian girls whenever they see foreign girls.

I once called an SA gold digger girl to order for insulting SA guys just because she was dating a Nigerian... Things didn't work out between her and the Nigerian guy, and she still hates me up until this day..

1Sharon:
So it's this bad?

White people do this aswell. Once a white woman has dated- and especially if she has biracial children from a black man- they don't want her back either.


Their logic is that, the reason why you dated outside your community to begin with is because you thought the grass was greener on the other side. Now that you're hurt, why are you coming back?


Most people stick to their own these men here don't get it

Sepukku:
Please travel to countries like the UK, France, US, Canada and come back again with that statement that most people stick to their own. You will retract it quick quick.

I was born in the UK. And where are you?

I find it funny that you're arguing with me an SA girl living in SA, just because you were able to stay in SA for a short period of time.

Keep in mind that I said most Nigerian guys, I didn't say all because some come here with their wives and you might have been an exception too.

But 85% of your brothers settle for street girls here just so they could have something to brag about when they go back to Nigeria.

Sepukku:
Every woman is at some level a prostitute. I don't know woman alive who has exchanged the coochi 100% completely free of charge.

1Sharon:
I was born in the UK. And where are you?

I am currently in Nigeria and have lived in multiple countries round the world. I can tell you for a fact that the case of stating that people stick to their own kind is not evident in countries where there are multiple cultures coexisting at one time and South Africa is one of them.

A more appropriate statement would be there are several cultures that intentionally ,create boundaries to deter their "kind" from marrying people outside of the cultures.

Sepukku:
I am currently in Nigeria and have lived in multiple countries round the world. I can tell you for a fact that the case of stating that people stick to their own kind is not evident in countries where there are multiple cultures coexisting at one time and South Africa is one of them.

A more appropriate statement would be there are several cultures that intentionally ,create boundaries to deter their "kind" from marrying people outside of the cultures.

Well I can tell you that you're wrong and deluded.

The UK is a perfect example of 'multiple cultures co-existing at the time' and the white women still prefere men from their race.

Go and look at the statistics. Most people are married to their own. You're just talking based on your emotions. You will learn.

Samantha124:
Yep.

And one thing I've noticed about those SA girls that are involved with Nigerian guys is that they end up being corrupted by these Nigerian guys to a point that they would insult SA guys at every chance that they get, hence they end up getting stigmatized and rejected by SA guys afterwards.

They start adopting that culture of insulting their SA guys, the same way Nigerian guys would insult their Nigerian girls whenever they see foreign girls.

I once called an SA gold digger girl to order for insulting SA guys just because she was dating a Nigerian... Things didn't work out between her and the Nigerian guy, and she still hates me up until this day..

That's the thing. Once they start dating out they start disrespecting men/women from their community.

When they get hurt and things go wrong, the people they mocked and thought they could do better than will in turn mock and reject them back.

If they dated out respectfully and kept quiet they could easily be absorbed back into the community they left.

If the green was greener on the other side, why are you coming back?

Sepukku:
Modern studies indicate that the Bantu popluations have an average of 25% Khoisan genes in their make up while the so called Colored populatons carry them at a 75% percentile.

This would mean that 4 of 10 Bantu people very likely carry some khoisan genes while 7 out of 10 coloreds carry them at a higher frequency.

The porportion of Khoisan ancestry in Bantu is quite similar to that of the amount of European DNA in African Americans, with a conclusion that dilution of genes not enough to significantly change the phenotype of the Bantu.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Yep, but they just can't keep quiet because they have big mouths..

1Sharon:
That's the thing. Once they start dating out they start disrespecting men/women from their community.

When they get hurt and things go wrong, the people they mocked and thought they could do better than will in turn mock and reject them back.

If they dated out respectfully and kept quiet they could easily be absorbed back into the community they left.

If the green was greener on the other side, why are you coming back?

I've never really seen you engaging in any arguments around these nairaland streets.. can you please take over from where I left off with that SA lady..

I'd like to hear what you have to say about the whole thing as a South African.

KingCold:
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Samantha124:
I've never really seen you engaging in any arguments around these nairaland streets.. can you please take over from where I left off with that SA lady..

I'd like to hear what you have to say about the whole thing as a South African.

I am the IronGalaxy

You're who?

So is this your silent account?🤣🤣🤣

KingCold:
I am the IronGalaxy

Samantha124:
I find it funny that you're arguing with me an SA girl living in SA, just because you were able to stay in SA for a short period of time.

Keep in mind that I said most Nigerian guys, I didn't say all because some come here with their wives and you might have been an exception too.

But 85% of your brothers settle for street girls here just so they could have something to brag about when they go back to Nigeria.

A good number of Nigerians who troop to South Africa are usually an underclass of Nigerians who are already used to street girls.

KingCold:
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Counter, don't laugh

Put me to shame will ya. I beg

Samantha124:
You're who?

So is this your silent account?🤣🤣🤣

Lol, no it's not. It's just gets tiring saying the same things sometimes...

1Sharon:
Well I can tell you that you're wrong and deluded.

The UK is a perfect example of 'multiple cultures co-existing at the time' and the white women still prefere men from their race.

Go and look at the statistics. Most people are married to their own. You're just talking based on your emotions. You will learn.

"married to their own". Do you mean in terms of race or culture.

Cause I swear a lot of Polish guys are married to english women from last i checked.

Sepukku:
Counter, don't laugh

Put me to shame will ya. I beg

Had I said Black South Africans don't have khoi blood you would have fought tooth and nail to prove they do.. Your M.O is predictable and tiring
I said my points about Black SAns and their San admixture,they are facts and I have nothing to prove to anyone

1Sharon:
That's the thing. Once they start dating out they start disrespecting men/women from their community.

When they get hurt and things go wrong, the people they mocked and thought they could do better than will in turn mock and reject them back.

If they dated out respectfully and kept quiet they could easily be absorbed back into the community they left.

If the green was greener on the other side, why are you coming back?

Ahhh so this is the reason they are ostracized, because of their big mouths.