₦airaland Forum

Cantonese:
“ In pre-colonial Nigeria and Africa, children were seen as SACRED”.

If children were sacred in Nigeria and Africa, why twins, triplets, etc killed because they were seen as evil?

Can you respond please?

BloomingDale:
Yeah, exactly what you were told so you can beat your children. Westerners don’t beat their children.

Rostikol:
They introduced criminality to you, that is why you need 'prisons' today.

Before they invaded, you did NOT need prisons.

They destroyed your religion which had working punishment and deterrence for crimes.

And then gave you a religion where you can loot 10 billion dollars and go to church the next day to thank God for good fortune.

That is why you have crime and prisons today. No accountability to the Divinity.

In ancient Benin City, 15th century Dutch and Portuguese visitors wrote that it was among the most beautiful cities on Earth, and that the people did not build front doors to their houses because there was no crime and stealing was unheard of.

Do you think such a people would not have developed a culture that surpassed beating up of their kids?

It's because you don't know your history that you're here typing ignorance.

Rostikol:
YES. And Okonkwo was a CRAZY man.

He was even EXILED because of his violence.

Did you see any normal person in that book beat up their children?

Tallesty1:
I didn't refer you to that book for us to question Okonkwo's mental health. I referred you to the book because you said that beating a child was a practice introduced by British colonialists, and I would appreciate it if we could stick to that topic.

In that story, there are laws for everything. In fact, certain words were forbidden, and anyone who broke the laws faced instant punishment. Okonkwo was punished for beating his wife on a sacred day, not for the act itself, but for doing it on the wrong day. He was never punished or even cautioned for beating his children. If beating one's children was foreign, Okonkwo would have been punished or at least made to appease the gods.

Furthermore, in that story, there was a man whose wife ran away after enduring numerous beatings from her husband. The husband was made to pay a fine for breaking one law or so, but nothing was done to him for beating his wife. I'm not even sure if he was advised to stop.

I'm sure you must be wondering where I am going with this.

Here is my point:

Okonkwo wasn't the only one beating people in the story.

What does the beating of a child mean in a community that is silent on beating wives?

Africans have their own flaws and should stop blaming the whites for everything. They can be terrible people in their own way

renderme:
You are right about the bolded. This was the same in yorubLand. My mum said even in the 50s stealing was unheard of. Farmers kept their goods in fromt of their farm wt the amount written. You pick ur foodstuff, leave the money and go. People were so spiritual then too. They believed if someone cursed U, the curse will come to pass, so everyone maintained their lane.

From the old buildings in Oyo, before the colonials came, they didn't have doors in their buildings too.

MasterJayJay:
Ask am if it was the colonial masters that introduced tribal marks. Some people are still using tribal marks to design the faces of their children.

Rostikol:
Dude, there was no LAW against beating your child in pre colonial Africa, just as there was no LAW against stealing, yet people did not steal.

Tallesty1:
You say?

MasterJayJay:
whitemen invented 'Ole' and 'onye ohi', Yoruba and Igbo words for 'thief' respectively. Clap for yourself

MasterJayJay:
A religion that allowed another religion to destroy it is a useless religion.

Cantonese:
“ In pre-colonial Nigeria and Africa, children were seen as SACRED”.

If children were sacred in Nigeria and Africa, why twins, triplets, etc killed because they were seen as evil?

Can you respond please?

Rostikol:
The culture of killing twins was confined to less than 0.0000000000000000000001 of the African population. I personally know of one subset of an Igbo community that engaged in this practice out of all the ethnic groups in Africa. They were outliers, and it was not a common practice AT ALL in Africa.

Rostikol:
The biggest LIE ever told about Nigerian or African culture is that physical discipline of children or anyone at all, is ''part of our culture''.

IT IS NOT.

It was a practice that was introduced by British colonialists.

The saying ''spare the rod and spoil the child'' is an ENGLISH bible proverb with NO African equivalent.

If you know one, I DARE YOU to tell us.

In pre-colonial Nigeria and Africa, children were seen as SACRED.

As the ANCESTORS RETURNED.

How could a sane person be beating up the ancestors?

It was unheard of.

Children were pampered.

They were 'disciplined' through communication.

TALK. Story telling. Preaching. Proverbs. Begging. (You'll be shocked at how well begging a child to behave well actually WORKS if you tried it.)

BUT THEY WERE NOT BEATEN.

It was the European colonialists who introduced corporal punishment (again, no African equivalent of the term) in their missionary schools - flogging and caning was what they did to 'discipline' African children.

THE SAME REASON YOUR PARENTS USED THE SAME CANE AND FLOGGING AGAINST YOU.

It's no coincidence.

It was the ENGLISH that taught them that.

Because the ENGLISH were racist sadists hellbent on creating a society built on hierarchy, fear and intimidation, for their own selfish ends.

THEY HAVE GONE NOW, SO UNLEARN WHAT THEY TAUGHT YOU, AND STOP BEATING YOUR CHILDREN AND HOUSE HELPS.

It is UNAFRICAN.

Meanwhile the British who taught you to beat your kids do not beat their own kids in Britain.

A kid born there can stand up and say what he feels anywhere anytime without fear.

That is how we were before they invaded.

It was THEM who taught us to replace reason and proverbs with fear, beating, and intimidation.

Rostikol:
BULLSHIIIT SAVAGE PROVERB FROM WHITE BARBARIANS.

ivolt:
When you started your post, I thought maybe this one will be different.
But here you are displaying your inbred slavishness by bringing up Sweden.
You probably also believe that the white man teach you how to speak.

Corporal punishment is universal and natural among humans, that is why laws are needed
to combat it.
It has nothing to do with religion.

Now to the issue of Swedes, the Swedes of today are the product of yesterday.
At no time did the Swede sat down and say let us stop beating our kids so they can
be incorruptible.
Nope. Swedes beat kids when other Europeans did and stopped when their neighbours did.
It was even outlawed until 1979.
Are you saying the Swedes became "incorruptible" by then?
BTW, your perfect Sweden is the rape capital of Europe, yes, you
read that right. Maybe it due to lack of beating?

The vices and crimes in a society are a product of income and poverty.
Beating or lack of it is irrelevant.

You are confused about cause and effect.
You need to review whatever is giving you such a ludicrous idea.

Shiver99:
You are completely correct Op, and I have been meaning to begin a thread about this.

Colonists even noted the first Igbo children forced into early missionary schools found it difficult to adjust because of the physical brutality they passed as discipline then. Nigeria's culture of 'discipline' has been largely shaped by poverty, insecurity and decades of living in a callous or unempathetic culture.

But you have to be careful because there are many cultures in this country, particularly Islamic, that historically used these methods to discipline the child.