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Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by Johans2023: 11:04pm On May 23, 2023
I believe that tinubu will want to bribe the judges.
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by seanfer(m):
DaTruths:
The Electoral Law supercedes the APC's domestic laws.
Every party may have their own law and modus operandi, but the electoral Law reigns supreme.

You are just making conjectures.

If APC violates the electoral Law, who do you expect to sue them? Most likely the opposition


Again, if a Nigerian village law doesn't punish Rapists, and someone rapes a lady in that village, then you decide to sue the rapist.

So because you are not from the village, that means, only the villagers reserves the legal right to sue the rapist?

Lastly, because the village law doesn't punish Rapists, it should be uphold over the Nigerian law that punishes Rapists?
If you don't understand this illustration in respect to the electoral Law, then I will leave you to your believe.
You’re getting this wrong or you just chose to believe APC don’t have power to do this.
The electoral act gave the political parties this power.
You’re taking from the view what’s Morally right but unfortunately the current Electoral Act didn’t see it that way.
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by DMerciful(m): 12:41am On May 24, 2023
They're not the same. You can submit names 30 days before election and submit an uodated lists besides there is no punishment prescribed for submitting late. The intent is for INEC to monitor the primaries in the event that direct primary mode is adopted.

Shettima is double nomination, there's punishment for it
seanfer:
Those that pass the section of the law are not only APC members.
I can remember that Obi benefitted from this section of law when another political party APM took him to court last year after Obi became the LP presidential candidate.
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by seanfer(m): 12:53am On May 24, 2023
DMerciful:
They're not the same. You can submit names 30 days before election and submit an uodated lists besides there is no punishment prescribed for submitting late. The intent is for INEC to monitor the primaries in the event that direct primary mode is adopted.

Shettima is double nomination, there's punishment for it
Don’t get me wrong. I never said there’s no punishment for double nomination. The law says the case must be brought to court by a member of that party. If this case is initiated by a APC member then the High court and appeal court won’t dismiss it. And that’s my point.
According to electoral act 2022 PDP can’t sue APC for that.
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by garfield1: 1:21am On May 24, 2023
DMerciful:
They're not the same. You can submit names 30 days before election and submit an uodated lists besides there is no punishment prescribed for submitting late. The intent is for INEC to monitor the primaries in the event that direct primary mode is adopted.

Shettima is double nomination, there's punishment for it
Otti and obi also violated the electoral act
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by ivolt: 2:09am On May 24, 2023
DMerciful:
Binding on that judgement. LP and PDP petitions have multiple angles
This is the strongest part of their petitions.
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by Penguin2: 2:25am On May 24, 2023
Ratello:
The Supreme Court Hearing/Judgement In The Case Of Shettima’s Double Nomination.

Case No. 18.SC/CV/501/2023

PDP (Appellant) Vs INEC and 3 Others (Respondents). (APC, Tinubu and Shettima).

The case was called…

PDP is represented Joe I.B, Mike Ozekhome, and others.

INEC was represented by Isaac Adebiyi,

APC was represented by Babatunde Agana, Bridget Amaemi, Gbenga Benson, Julius Ishola

Third Respondent (Tinubu) Omosonya Popoola

Fourth Respondent (Shettima) Oluronke Adeyemi.

The fourth respondent stated that there is a motion on notice… the motion was filed as a pre-election matters. The application was filed on the 8th of May 2023.

The judge held that it’s a pre-election matters

The fourth respondent withdrew her motion.

The motion of 8th of May 2023 is hereby struck out by the Judges.

According to the second respondent, the appellant is asking the court to hear the matter knowing that it has expired.

According to Joe I B… the appellant filed an appeal against INEC about double nomination, the matter was heard and even the 2nd respondent APC admitted to having double nomination under oath.

According to Joe Gazama, the issue of double nomination has been laid to rest in the case of Uche Nwosu.

APC in responding, stated that the honorable court should dismiss PDP’s appeal.

According to the judge, the Apc admitted to double nomination.

In response, APC stated that they didn’t admit to double nominations indicating that the case of Uche Nwosu we are talking about two party nomination which is Apc and AA… but in this case, the nominations are in the same party with us APC and the positions are presidency and senatorial. He went further to state that the appellant has filed the case in at the tribunal but wanting the Supreme Court to take over the duties of a case being currently tried at the tribunal…

The judge asked if the first respondent APC added it in his address which was an emphatic No…

The appeal was accepted and judgment set aside for 26th of May 2023.
Wahala wahala wahala!

This case is not looking good for Tinubu and APC.

I sense danger ⛔️
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by DMerciful(m): 2:30am On May 24, 2023
What did they violate and what punishment does the law prescribe?
garfield1:
Otti and obi also violated the electoral act
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by DMerciful(m): 2:31am On May 24, 2023
So if the party or no member of the party brings it up then the law can stay broken?
seanfer:
Don’t get me wrong. I never said there’s no punishment for double nomination. The law says the case must be brought to court by a member of that party. If this case is initiated by a APC member then the High court and appeal court won’t dismiss it. And that’s my point.
According to electoral act 2022 PDP can’t sue APC for that.
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by seanfer(m): 2:34am On May 24, 2023
DMerciful:
So if the party or no member of the party brings it up then the law can stay broken?
Attached is a ruling of appeal court.

Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by garfield1: 2:36am On May 24, 2023
DMerciful:
What did they violate and what punishment does the law prescribe?
Obi joined lp 30 days before primaries.lp also didn't submit register 30 days to primaries,a violation of the electoral act.
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by garfield1: 2:40am On May 24, 2023
Penguin2:
Wahala wahala wahala!

This case is not looking good for Tinubu and APC.

I sense danger ⛔️
This is what happened in court that day.why exaggerating? The pdp lawyer himself admitted that 180 days has elapsed.

Assuming that external factors are involved,inyang okoro is close to akpabio.ayade is close to agim,aketi is close to ogunwumiju.
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by garfield1: 2:44am On May 24, 2023
DMerciful:
They're not the same. You can submit names 30 days before election and submit an uodated lists besides there is no punishment prescribed for submitting late. The intent is for INEC to monitor the primaries in the event that direct primary mode is adopted.

Shettima is double nomination, there's punishment for it
Oga,a violation of the constitution or electoral act has punishment mainly disq.the court would have sacked aketi for buni signing his form though the law didn't specify punishment.what saved him was non joinder of buni
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by DMerciful(m): 2:49am On May 24, 2023
Nope, judges cannot manufacture punishment. What is the intent of submitting list 30 days before primaries? So there is no fraud of members if direct primaries is used.

LP submitted a list to INEC even though Obi's name might not be there at the time. But once Obi joined LP and was given waiver, his name was communicated to INEC and they accepted.

So what law was broken?
garfield1:
Oga,a violation of the constitution or electoral act has punishment mainly disq.the court would have sacked aketi for buni signing his form though the law didn't specify punishment.what saved him was non joinder of buni
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by DMerciful(m): 2:50am On May 24, 2023
LP submitted 30 days to primaries. Where did you get this lie?
garfield1:
Obi joined lp 30 days before primaries.lp also didn't submit register 30 days to primaries,a violation of the electoral act.
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by garfield1: 2:54am On May 24, 2023
DMerciful:
LP submitted 30 days to primaries. Where did you get this lie?
Oga,they did not.the court in Kano found them guilty of not submitting so who are you to question the court?
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by DMerciful(m): 2:55am On May 24, 2023
What is the likelihood that someone from the same political party would take another member to court over double nomination? It will be judged as internal party affair so in essence we're saying this particular law is handicapped?

Anyways...its on Friday so lets see what the Supreme Court would say
seanfer:
Attached is a ruling of appeal court.
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by garfield1: 2:56am On May 24, 2023
DMerciful:
Nope, judges cannot manufacture punishment. What is the intent of submitting list 30 days before primaries? So there is no fraud of members if direct primaries is used.

LP submitted a list to INEC even though Obi's name might not be there at the time. But once Obi joined LP and was given waiver, his name was communicated to INEC and they accepted.

So what law was broken?
Where is the waiver? Waiver is part of a party constitution and not electoral act.
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by seanfer(m): 3:15am On May 24, 2023
DMerciful:
What is the likelihood that someone from the same political party would take another member to court over double nomination? It will be judged as internal party affair so in essence we're saying this particular law is handicapped?

Anyways...its on Friday so lets see what the Supreme Court would say
You’re right. The NASS manipulated the law.
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by DMerciful(m): 3:38am On May 24, 2023
The court in Kano did not even have LP lawyers, they gave a judgement without full judicial procedure.

Who was the LP lawyer there? Apapa lawyer meanwhile it was Apapa faction that took the matter to court. Why will LP members take LP to court to annul their elections if both the LP members and Judge are not working for APC...

Dey play
garfield1:
Oga,they did not.the court in Kano found them guilty of not submitting so who are you to question the court?
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by Nobody: 7:56am On May 24, 2023
seanfer:
You’re getting this wrong or you just chose to believe APC don’t have power to do this.
The electoral act gave the political parties this power.
You’re taking from the view what’s Morally right but unfortunately the current Electoral Act didn’t see it that way.
So which party does the electoral act has the jurisdiction over?

Or was the law made only for a particular party?

Who are to observe the law?
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by Nobody: 8:53am On May 24, 2023
soojar:
No need to get overly excited. I hope you know that the Judgement that would be given by the supreme court is not to validate or sack Tinubu? It is only just to rule if PDP has the right to sue APC or not. If the case is ruled in favour of PDP then the case goes back to the high court to be determined, and if not, the case is thrown out.





We learn everyday.
Thanks for the clarification and education. I was initially thinking otherwise.

Indeed we learn everyday.
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by seanfer(m): 9:50am On May 24, 2023
DaTruths:
So which party does the electoral act has the jurisdiction over?

Or was the law made only for a particular party?

Who are to observe the law?
Attached is a ruling of the Appeal Court in January.

Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by seanfer(m): 9:55am On May 24, 2023
Penguin2:
Wahala wahala wahala!

This case is not looking good for Tinubu and APC.

I sense danger ⛔️
They’ve not even start the case. What they’re at the Supreme Court is to ask the court if PDP have the locus standi to sue another party. If the Supreme Court rule in favor of PDP the case will go back to high court and hearing will start.
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by Ratello(op): 1:00pm On May 24, 2023
seanfer:
They’ve not even start the case. What they’re at the Supreme Court is to ask the court if PDP have the locus standi to sue another party. If the Supreme Court rule in favor of PDP the case will go back to high court and hearing will start.
I don't know where you guys keep getting this wrong notion from that if the Supreme Court rules I favour of PDP the case will return to the high court.....wrong bro, I say wrong. This was a case thrown out by the federal high court and court of appeal and now the Supreme Court admits it, meaning the cross examination was done which was not meant to be in the first place so on May 26th, judgment is what Nigeria awaits and you are saying it will return back to High court? Return for what when judgment will be dispensed by the Supreme Court either favourable to APC or not, ditto PDP. Case closed!
Re: PDP Vs APC Supreme Court Judgement Slated For May 26, 2023: Matters Arising by Wahabfuture: 3:10pm On May 24, 2023
Ratello:
*PDP vs APC Supreme Court Judgement slated for May 26, 2023: Matters Arising* .


Today, it seemed as if a sledgehammer had hit the APC camp as they might have been caught napping by the PDP over a case filed at the Supreme Court which came up for hearing today.

The Supreme Court Justices would have given judgment today perhaps but they moved the judgement to Friday, May 26th.

And that day is now probably the most important day in Nigeria since the February 25th Presidential election this year.

Millions of Nigerians also were not aware of the case which came up for judgement at the Supreme Court today. The shenanigans at the Presidential Election Tribunal in the past few days were enough distractions to even imagine that a case of this magnitude was waiting at the Supreme Court.

What is the judgment to be given by the Justices of the Supreme Court , in a nutshell? It is to determine if the APC Presidential running mate, Alhaji Shettima violated Section 35 of the Electoral Act 2022 by having a double nomination, thereby voiding the joint presidential ticket.

There’s been precedence set by the Supreme Court in a similar case like this with Uche Nwosu of Imo State. The Supreme Court ruled against Nwosu and disqualified him. That precedent is what many legal experts are looking at to see if the Justices will rule against Shettima and the APC this Friday.

I have spoken to a few brilliant lawyers and their positions are that Shettima has no hope of dodging this case, with all the facts of the case on ground. A couple more lawyers I asked for a balanced opinion are undecided. They feel it can go either way, since the confidence in the Supreme Court in giving the right and expected legal judgments in the political space has been waning for a couple of years now.

If the Supreme Court rules on Friday that Shettima violated the Electoral Law, it would mean outright disqualification of him and Bola Ahmed Tinubu, since it’s a joint ticket!

If that happens on Friday, it would mean a couple of things might happen, depending on the further judgement given. It might mean that the person whom INEC declared as the second position holder in the Presidential Election would be declared the President-Elect. That would be Atiku Abubakar. If that is the case, then Atiku will likely be sworn in as the President.

However, if the Supreme Court disqualifies both Tinubu and Shettima without making any pronouncement on who should be sworn in, there would likely be an extension for a number of days, of the Buhari presidency. Buhari might continue for not more than six months and if he doesn’t wish to continue in office beyond May 29th, perhaps Vice-President Osinbajo might hold forth for a few more months if he too wishes, until another election holds. These are my own layman’s opinions on what might be the scenario and not cast in stone under any legal framework. So, the reader should take this part about an extension of the Buhari/Osinbajo tenure as hypothetical on my part.

There is another scenario too. If Atiku is declared as the winner and sworn in, the case at the Presidential Election Tribunal asking for the judicial interpretation of the constitution as it concerns the 25% in the FCT will definitely come up.

Now, here’s what I think of that section of the constitution. I believe that for a winner to be declared in any Presidential Election, that person has to win 25% in the FCT. I think it’s a no-brainer. My own understanding tells me that the ‘AND’ in that section of the constitution is not in anyway ambiguous but a conjunctive requirement.

So, if Atiku is declared the winner if the judgement on Friday dismisses BAT and Shettima, it is rather likely that he will still step down when the Tribunal gives a judgment on that 25% in the FCT matter. If that happens, Atiku and Obi will slug it out in a run off election, going by the Electoral law, because BAT and Shettima would have been disqualified from running in that run-off.

So, you now can see why this Friday the 26th of May is an important day for millions of Nigerians.

I can only imagine the kind of pressure the Honourable Justices of the Supreme Court are under right now.

Nigerians can only hope that they give the judgement which satisfies their consciences according to the rule of law.

Cc: Seun, Lalasticlala, O4MJ
Stop wasting your time with Nigeria politic, nothing good will come out of it, Nigeria is highly corrupted more than any country on this earth and every country is aware of this, Tinubu will be president and nothing the judges can do about it, only solution is to divide the country
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