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Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Volksfuhrer(m): 7:02pm On Jun 11, 2023
Brendaniel:
But somehow it was called Lagos airport, why don't Ogun state buid their airport in Ibadan and call it Ogun state airport, Oga your lie has no direction, you cannot even back up your lie with a link or document that says the government ran out of land...
The appellation "Lagos Airport" does not necessarily locate the airport within the boundary of the former federal capital territory. London Gatwick for instance is about 30 miles from the city of London, but the airport is called London Gatwick because it serves London. Lagos Airport could have been located in Sango-Ota, it would still be called Lagos Airport because it serves Lagos.
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 7:17pm On Jun 11, 2023
Volksfuhrer:
The appellation "Lagos Airport" does not necessarily locate the airport within the boundary of the former federal capital territory. London Gatwick for instance is about 30 miles from the city of London, but the airport is called London Gatwick because it serves London. Lagos Airport could have been located in Sango-Ota, it would still be called Lagos Airport because it serves Lagos.
Oga, my point here is Ikeja was already mapped out as part of Lagos as at when the airport was been built in 1940s, which counters their claim that Ikeja was not part of Lagos till 1976, the airport was only used to illustrate and if anyone is to counter my claim he should come up with an article or document to prove otherwise and I will do the same...
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 7:18pm On Jun 11, 2023
Brendaniel:
I only used a landmark project such as the Lagos airport to counter the claim you guys made that Lagos was only the island and other parts like Ikeja were not part of Lagos till Lagos state was created in 1976, please note the dates I was very specific with my dates and my dates did not exceed between 1939 and 1991 which covered the period you guys were using to give credence to your claims.

my points were only raised in regards to the period of time you guys said which is 1976 both before and after, so for you to start talking about protectorate and 1880's is already way of out of when Lagos was even made FCT which is totally out of the range of discussion


Also if Lagos airport you claim was built in Oyo or Ogun please provide a document or article as at the time of it's construction to back up your claim and I will provide mine to prove to to you that it was built in Lagos as part of Lagos and had nothing to do with Oyo or Ogun state

Lastly you are so uncouth, learn to argue without insults....
And that is why I have given you the history lesson

Lagos Colony was only the Island and parts of the Mainland

Ikeja all the way to Oyo were Lagos Protectorate and later on it became known a as Western Region
Ikeja Ikorodu Epe and Badagry were all part of the Western Region under Awolowo in the first republic.Awolowo developed the Industrial park at Ikeja

Lagos The capital city had a Minister under the Federal government just like Abuja today.

That did not include any of Badagry,Epe,Ikorodu or Ikeja .which were added to "Lagos" the Federal capital when Lagos state was created in 1967

One of the Ministers of Lagos was the late YarAdua 's father

So you see the relevance and need for the history lesson


Lagos in ,1898 was
Colony of Lagos and Protectorate of Lagos

The part know. As Colony was the Federa l capital from 1914 after amalgamation till 1991 and The Protectorate of Lagos was later known as the Western Region till 1967 when Badagry,Ikeja,Epe and Ikorodu were excised and merged with the Federal capital to create Lagos State


You been to grasp these elementary facts and stop running your mouth
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 7:23pm On Jun 11, 2023
Gajagojo:
And that is why I have given you the history lesson

Lagos Colony was only the Island and parts of the Mainland

Ikeja all the way to Oyo were Lagos Protectorate and later on it became known a as Western Region
Ikeja Ikorodu Epe and Badagry were all part of the Western Region under Awolowo in the first republic.Awolowo developed the Industrial park at Ikeja

Lagos The capital city had a Minister under the Federal government just like Abuja today.

That did not include any of Badagry,Epe,Ikorodu or Ikeja .which were added to "Lagos" the Federal capital when Lagos state was created in 1967

One of the Ministers of Lagos was the late YarAdua 's father

So you see the relevance and need for the history lesson


Lagos in ,1898 was
Colony of Lagos and Protectorate of Lagos

The part know. As Colony was the Federa l capital from 1914 after amalgamation till 1991 and The Protectorate of Lagos was later known as the Western Region till 1967 when Badagry,Ikeja,Epe and Ikorodu were excised and merged with the Federal capital to create Lagos State


You been to grasp these elementary facts and stop running your mouth
Good, so what state was Ikeja under?
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 7:50pm On Jun 11, 2023
Brendaniel:
Good, so what state was Ikeja under?
when? 1888?
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 7:51pm On Jun 11, 2023
Gajagojo:
when?
1974
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 8:02pm On Jun 11, 2023
Brendaniel:
1974
What is the relevance of that to 1888 census?
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by seeyounow3: 8:09pm On Jun 11, 2023
continue with fake census
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 8:12pm On Jun 11, 2023
Gajagojo:
What is the relevance of that to 1888 census?
The people I mentioned were talking about Lagos in 1976 that Ikeja was not part of Lagos till 1976 and that was my focus and I explained and you countered my claim with history of 1800's and protectorate and I said good and I am asking you now, which state was Ikeja under in 1974 at least 2 years before 1976?
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Heffalump(m): 8:15pm On Jun 11, 2023
Mynd44:
Wait this was not known before?

A lot of people forget that before 1967, most of Lagos was just the island. It was when Lagos state was created that Ikeja, Agege, Mushin, Ikorodu, Epe, Surulere, and Badagry were added after cutting them out of the bold western region.
These areas are actually larger than half Lagos state and these areas were previously in Ogun state.
Anyone who thinks the only indigenous of Lagos state are the Eguns and the Lagos Island folks is just playing around.
This means that the Aworis, Egbas, Ijebu and Oyo who owned farmlands, fishing villages and also generational land in these areas automatically because indigenes of both Ogun and Lagos or Oyo and Lagos.
Examples include Yayi, Obasa and Hamzat.
Maybe me as my family has village in Ogun and also a homestead in Ikeja
From the Census report, it also shows that the Nupes and Hausas also have origin in Lagos and can claim ancestral heritage to Lagos.

The moment other settlers came early to co-habit with the original settlers of Lagos, and both settled seamlessly like the ones from Benin Republic and Togo, one is safe to say that Lagos does not belong to Yoruba alone.
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 8:19pm On Jun 11, 2023
Brendaniel:
The people I mentioned were talking about Lagos in 1976 that Ikeja was not part of Lagos till 1976 and that was my focus and I explained and you countered my claim with history of 1800's and protectorate and I said good and I am asking you now, which state was Ikeja under in 1974 at least 2 years before 1976?
So why did you mention me alongside them?

Are you normal?
I was talking to someone else and you quoted me out of the blue .
I responded to educate you and here you are talking rubbish?
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Creeper(op): 8:23pm On Jun 11, 2023
Heffalump:
From the Census report, it also shows that the Nupes and Hausas also have origin in Lagos and can claim ancestral heritage to Lagos.

The moment other settlers came early to co-habit with the original settlers of Lagos, and both settled seamlessly like the ones from Benin Republic and Togo, one is safe to say that Lagos does not belong to Yoruba alone.
The Nupes and Hausas were slaves and warriors. Slaves can’t claim ownership - same is applicable to warriors who’re part of the army of a Yoruba subgroup.

Anyway, those amongst them who remained in the place have been Yorubanised and they’re Yoruba today.
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 8:36pm On Jun 11, 2023
Volksfuhrer:
The appellation "Lagos Airport" does not necessarily locate the airport within the boundary of the former federal capital territory. London Gatwick for instance is about 30 miles from the city of London, but the airport is called London Gatwick because it serves London. Lagos Airport could have been located in Sango-Ota, it would still be called Lagos Airport because it serves Lagos.
Actually
At that time
Lagos Protectorate was the name of the whole of what we call the SW.today including Badagry,Epe,Ikeja and Ikorodu except Lagos Colony. It later became known as the Western Region

Lagos Colony was the city of Lagos The former federal capital city.
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 8:36pm On Jun 11, 2023
Gajagojo:
So why did you mention me alongside them?

Are you normal?
I was talking to someone else and you quoted me out of the blue .
I responded to educate you and here you are talking rubbish?
Gajagojo:



Lagos State did not exist at that time.
It was created in 1967
I have a right to quote you and also to correct you...
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 8:38pm On Jun 11, 2023
Brendaniel:
I have a right to quote you and also to correct you...
So Lagos state existed in 1888 or what are you correcting?
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by CloudWalker: 8:39pm On Jun 11, 2023
Brendaniel:
Oga, my point here is Ikeja was already mapped out as part of Lagos as at when the airport was been built in 1940s, which counters their claim that Ikeja was not part of Lagos till 1976, the airport was only used to illustrate and if anyone is to counter my claim he should come up with an article or document to prove otherwise and I will do the same...
learn how and when to use been and being
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Christistruth03: 8:42pm On Jun 11, 2023
Gajagojo:
And that is why I have given you the history lesson

Lagos Colony was only the Island and parts of the Mainland

Ikeja all the way to Oyo were Lagos Protectorate and later on it became known a as Western Region
Ikeja Ikorodu Epe and Badagry were all part of the Western Region under Awolowo in the first republic.Awolowo developed the Industrial park at Ikeja

Lagos The capital city had a Minister under the Federal government just like Abuja today.

That did not include any of Badagry,Epe,Ikorodu or Ikeja .which were added to "Lagos" the Federal capital when Lagos state was created in 1967

One of the Ministers of Lagos was the late YarAdua 's father

So you see the relevance and need for the history lesson


Lagos in ,1898 was
Colony of Lagos and Protectorate of Lagos

The part know. As Colony was the Federa l capital from 1914 after amalgamation till 1991 and The Protectorate of Lagos was later known as the Western Region till 1967 when Badagry,Ikeja,Epe and Ikorodu were excised and merged with the Federal capital to create Lagos State


You been to grasp these elementary facts and stop running your mouth
Ikeja was Solid Western Region Territory

Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 8:45pm On Jun 11, 2023
CloudWalker:
learn how and when to use been and being
ok, thanks....
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 8:48pm On Jun 11, 2023
Christistruth03:
Ikeja was Solid Western Region Territory
The area called Western Region was named in 1939 . Previously it was the Protectorate of Lagos from 1897 till 1906 when it was merged with the Eastern provinces to form the Protectorate of Southern Nigeria
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Alaigbomaster: 8:49pm On Jun 11, 2023
id911:
The socalled census you referred to wasn't actually Lagos because Lagos as at then was a very tiny island. It was around 1967 or I think after the war due to state creation that so many independent places were cut and added to what it's now known as Lagos today.
Did dey cut any part of alaigbo to add to Lagos?
No
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 8:49pm On Jun 11, 2023
Gajagojo:
So Lagos state existed in 1888 or what are you correcting?
That Lagos was existing before it was created as a state in 1976, the status was only changed to make it a state having a governor and still remain FCT at the same time, before then it was only FCT and I gave a breakdown on how it was partitioned to be governed both as FCT and state...
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 8:52pm On Jun 11, 2023
Brendaniel:
That Lagos was existing before it was created as a state in 1976, the status was only changed to make it a state having a governor and still remain FCT at the same time, before then it was only FCT and I gave a breakdown on how it was partitioned to be governed both as FCT and state...
did I say that?

Once again
What are you correcting?
I don't think you are normal
Where did I say anything about 1976?
This thread is about census in 1888 and that is what I addressed.
I was not talking to you so where do you get me involved in talking about 1976?
The terminology FCT was never used in relation to Lagos

That was. NEVER used with Lagos city
It was the Federal capital full stop. Nothing like FCT

That term was used only with Abuja
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 9:19pm On Jun 11, 2023
Gajagojo:
did I say that?

Once again
What are you correcting?
I don't think you are normal
Where did I say anything about 1976?
This thread is about census in 1888 and that is what I addressed.
I was not talking to you so where do you get me involved in talking about 1976?
The terminology FCT was never used in relation to Lagos

That was. NEVER used with Lagos city
It was the Federal capital full stop. Nothing like FCT

That term was used only with Abuja
Your statement is attached below, you said Lagos was created in 1967, firstly your date was incorrect, it is 1976, secondly Lagos had been existing before 1976 which ever way you are wrong, I was not here for 1888 census, I was here to counter false claims...

Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 9:29pm On Jun 11, 2023
Brendaniel:
Your statement is attached below, you said Lagos was created in 1967, firstly your date was incorrect, it is 1976, secondly Lagos had been existing before 1976 which ever way you are wrong, I was not here for 1888 census, I was here to counter false claims...
I choose my words with precision

Are you literate?
I said Lagos State Not Lagos
I very rarely use the word Lagos without clarification
Lagos state was created by General Gowon on May 27 1967 along with 11 other states following a stalemate with Ojukwu

You are talking very ignorantly and lying without shame

This thread is about 1888,

Lagos state did not exist at that time it was created in 1967
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 9:38pm On Jun 11, 2023
Gajagojo:
I choose my words with precision
I said Lagos State Not Lagos
I very rarely use the word Lagos without clarification
Lagos state was created by General Gowon on May 27 1967 along with 11 other states following a stalemate with Ojukwu

You are talking very ignorantly and lying without shame
Good, now you are giving information that corresponds with our discussion but the last line is incorrect...
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 9:39pm On Jun 11, 2023
Brendaniel:
Good, now you are giving information that corresponds with our discussion but the last line is incorrect...
what discussion do I have with you?
You are a liar with no integrity
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 9:49pm On Jun 11, 2023
Gajagojo:
what discussion do I have with you?
You are a liar with no integrity
Someone made a post, someone commented and you mentioned the person and I mentioned you, so you want to blame me for mentioning you when you did the same thing to someone else, the forum is opened to everyone...
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Ogene001: 9:59pm On Jun 11, 2023
Gajagojo:
And that is why I have given you the history lesson

Lagos Colony was only the Island and parts of the Mainland

Ikeja all the way to Oyo were Lagos Protectorate and later on it became known a as Western Region
Ikeja Ikorodu Epe and Badagry were all part of the Western Region under Awolowo in the first republic.Awolowo developed the Industrial park at Ikeja

Lagos The capital city had a Minister under the Federal government just like Abuja today.

That did not include any of Badagry,Epe,Ikorodu or Ikeja .which were added to "Lagos" the Federal capital when Lagos state was created in 1967

One of the Ministers of Lagos was the late YarAdua 's father

So you see the relevance and need for the history lesson


Lagos in ,1898 was
Colony of Lagos and Protectorate of Lagos

The part know. As Colony was the Federa l capital from 1914 after amalgamation till 1991 and The Protectorate of Lagos was later known as the Western Region till 1967 when Badagry,Ikeja,Epe and Ikorodu were excised and merged with the Federal capital to create Lagos State


You been to grasp these elementary facts and stop running your mouth
The whole of old Eastern region used to be under Onitsha and Owerri provinces. Does it make someone from Ebonyi or cross River indegenous to Onitsha? We are talking indegenous Lagos people. Being part if old Lagos protectorate doesn't make you Lagos indegenous person
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 10:02pm On Jun 11, 2023
Brendaniel:
Someone made a post, someone commented and you mentioned the person and I mentioned you, so you want to blame me for mentioning you when you did the same thing to someone else, the forum is opened to everyone...
You mentioned me
Nothing wrong with that
That is what the forum is for
But you accused me of what I did not say and insist instead of correcting yourself despite oseveral corrections


That makes you a nuisance and a liar

I said Lagos state did not exist in 1888 when the census was done. It was created in 1967
These is an irrefutable fact
So why are you lying about 1976 and arguing foolishly
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 10:05pm On Jun 11, 2023
Gajagojo:
You mentioned me
Nothing wrong with that
That is what the forum is for
But you accused me of what I did not say and insist instead of correcting yourself despite oseveral corrections


That makes you a nuisance and a liar

I said Lagos state did not exist in 1888 when the census was done. It was created in 1967
These is an irrefutable fact
So why are you lying about 1976 and arguing foolishly
And my claim was that Lagos was already existing before 1967....
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 10:06pm On Jun 11, 2023
Ogene001:
The whole of old Eastern region used to be under Onitsha and Owerri provinces. Does it make someone from Ebonyi or cross River indegenous to Onitsha? We are talking indegenous Lagos people. Being part if old Lagos protectorate doesn't make you Lagos indegenous person
What do you mean by Eastern Region? Be specific what states today would that be and what dates?


I don't know what you mean by LAGOS

can you be more precise in your language to avoid misunderstanding
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 10:12pm On Jun 11, 2023
Brendaniel:
And my claim was that Lagos was already existing before 1967....
What is my business with your claim?
You quoted me out of the blue to talk rubbish that was irrelevant to the quote claiming you are correcting me
What are you correcting?

I am not interested in your confused rants.

I addressed the census of 1888 to relate it to today to make a simple. point

Whatever the 1888 census is about
It was not for Lagos state as we know it now

They are different things
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