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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 8:31pm On Jun 22, 2023
Melvyn11:
Making teams park bus don turn achievement cheesy.
you forget say nah arsenal fan? Arsenal sabi play that nonsense football with little or no achievement......... To Me , Football is Serious business Play rubbish and win Ucl.... Wenger Played Beautiful football but Mourinho won trophies!!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 8:32pm On Jun 22, 2023
Jodera:

Only inferior teams look to nullify style of play through parking the bus.


It's simple!!
This is a delusional statement.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 8:33pm On Jun 22, 2023
andrewbaba44:
This champions league wey apari win pain some people sha grin

Let’s see if the epl farming will continue sha
Oga. E no.pain anybody... Pep worked hard and deserved to win it!!! So Far no be Barcelona win am. We re all happy!!!!!!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ennyjay69(m): 8:34pm On Jun 22, 2023
So will havertz10 move to arsenal’s thread now or we still have to deal with him here?

I must have missed a lot
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 8:34pm On Jun 22, 2023
Melvyn11:

Na you bring the maths baba. Show us how Zidane was eligible for trophies he didn't compete in.
Zidane's RM was eligible for (parenthesis is what was won):

1. La Liga 2015-2018 (1)
2. CDL 2015-2018 (0)
3. UCL 2015-2018 (3)
4. CWC 2015-2018 (3)
5. Spanish Super Cup 2015-2018 (1)
6. UEFA super cup 2015-2018 (2)

Pep's Barca

1. La Liga 2008-2012 (3)
2. CDL 2008-2012 (2)
3. UCL 2008-2012 (2)
4. CWC 2008-2012 (2)
5. Spanish Super Cup 2008-2012 (3)
6. UEFA super cup 2008-2012 (2)

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 8:34pm On Jun 22, 2023
Melvyn11:

This is a delusional statement.
You are wasting your time...... Jodera doesnt understand Parking the bus is also a style of Play!! No wonder. Arsenal can never win the UCL!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 8:42pm On Jun 22, 2023
Melvyn11:

This is a delusional statement.
Lol...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 8:45pm On Jun 22, 2023
Ihebu4chelsea:
You are wasting your time...... Jod.era doesnt understand Parking the bus is also a style of Play!! No wonder. Arsenal can never win the UCL!!
No team will be regarded as great with just parking the bus as their default style of play.

We're talking about great teams here!

Ask Greece!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 8:45pm On Jun 22, 2023
BlueMann:
Callum Hudson-Odoi to Strasbourg, here we go!

Full agreement reached between all parties, Strasbourg set to pay €60m in four installments, Hudson-Odoi joins on a four year deal worth €6m per year.

Medicals scheduled for this weekend in France. Official announcement to come soon after.
Chelsea owner bought the club.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 9:03pm On Jun 22, 2023
andrewbaba44:


You won’t get your right answers from most of them

Some of them will even take Marco Silva over pep grin

Lol Classic case of cutting their nose to spite their face.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 9:18pm On Jun 22, 2023
Melvyn11:

So kindly tell us how Pep Barca performed better than Zidane threepeat Madrid? That's the question none of the Barca fans have answered without descending to incoherent ramblings. We saw the same Pep Barca choking against numerous teams in the champions league but Madrid great versions won't be able to go toe to toe with them . You Barca fans live in your own self delusions cheesy

In 4 years, the major trophies won by Pep were:

2 UCLs
3 La liga
3 Copa del Rey

In the same span, Zizou won 3 UCLs, 1 la liga and 0 CDR - a meagre half of Pep's key trophies haul.

Pep's team was obviously more successful overall. If you see that as incoherent, then the delusions are all yours.

The key indicator to which team was better regarded is that Barca's miss out on 2010 UCL and a three peat was looked at as an anomaly/upset while Madrid's three peat was mostly a surprise for many.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 9:28pm On Jun 22, 2023
I am sure no transfer will beat this engagement till the window ends grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 9:31pm On Jun 22, 2023
ThierryJay:


In 4 years, the major trophies won by Pep were:

2 UCLs
3 La liga
3 Copa del Rey

In the same span, Zizou won 3 UCLs, 1 la liga and 0 CDR - a meagre half of Pep's key trophies haul.

Pep's team was obviously more successful overall. If you see that as incoherent, then the delusions are completely yours.

The key indicator to which team was better regarded is that Barca's miss out on 2010 UCL and a three peat was looked at as an anomaly/upset while Madrid's three peat was mostly a surprise for many.
And as for the controversy crowd, 1 of Inter's 3 goals in their 3-1 win of Barcelona was offside. Then Bojan Krkic scored a neat goal that would have made the 2nd leg 2-0 with Barca going through and most likely beating Bayern FC in the final.

The 1-0 loss to RM in the CDL also came with controversy as Pedro had scored first during regular time what was deemed offside. Replays would show he was not. That could have meant that team won 2 sextuples as they won the other 5 trophies on offer.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:53pm On Jun 22, 2023
ThierryJay:


In 4 years, the major trophies won by Pep were:

2 UCLs
3 La liga
3 Copa del Rey

In the same span, Zizou won 3 UCLs, 1 la liga and 0 CDR - a meagre half of Pep's key trophies haul.

It was not the same span. Zidane did 2.5 years only, January 2016 to May 2018

The 2016 league was already lost by the time he was appointed

Therefore Zidane did 1 LaLiga in 2 available and 3 UCL in 3 available, which is 4/5 or 80% of the major trophies available

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 10:03pm On Jun 22, 2023
Android17:
And as for the controversy crowd, 1 of Inter's 3 goals in their 3-1 win of Barcelona was offside. Then Bojan Krkic scored a neat goal that would have made the 2nd leg 2-0 with Barca going through and most likely beating Bayern FC in the final.

The 1-0 loss to RM in the CDL also came with controversy as Pedro had scored first during regular time what was deemed offside. Replays would show he was not. That could have meant that team won 2 sextuples as they won the other 5 trophies on offer.

Nobody would advocate for Barca after being robbed vs Madrid in that CDR final. Inter qualified through the skin of their teeth. That Barca team was expected to.sweep away any team before them then. They were that good.

3 peat team that didnt even know they were going to.win a 3 peat. Only in 2016/17 were they heads and shoulders above the other teams.

I consider City 2023, Bayern 2020 and Madrid 98 - 2001 as better than the 3 peat team.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 10:10pm On Jun 22, 2023
andrewbaba44:
I am sure no transfer will beat this engagement till the window ends grin
Caicedo to chelsea here we go and mbappe to real madrid here we go are still coming so don't celebrate yet.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 10:16pm On Jun 22, 2023
Ibime:


It was not the same span. Zidane did 2.5 years only, January 2016 to May 2018

The 2016 league was already lost by the time he was appointed

Therefore Zidane did 1 LaLiga in 2 available and 3 UCL in 3 available, which is 4/5 or 80% of the major trophies available



Thank you for pointing this out.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 10:23pm On Jun 22, 2023
Ibime:


It was not the same span. Zidane did 2.5 years only, January 2016 to May 2018

The 2016 league was already lost by the time he was appointed

Therefore Zidane did 1 LaLiga in 2 available and 3 UCL in 3 available, which is 4/5 or 80% of the major trophies available.


Being clever by half right? Major trophies for the season are the UCL, the league and the local cup. Are you saying the FA cup/CDR is not a major trophy or isnt that what Madrid was doing alariwo bus parade for all over the city last month?

Using your logic, in 3 years, Guardiola won 2 UCL, 3 la Liga and 2 CDR which is 7/9 or 78% key trophy wins.

In 3 years, Zizou won 3 UCL and 1 la liga and Zero CDR equating to 4/9 or 44% key trophy wins.

Even if we allocate a weight of 2 league titles as equal to Zizou's extra single UCL (which is very generous by the way), Zizou will still be at 5/9 or 5/8 which is still way below Pep's 78% rate.

The difference could not be clearer. No matter which way you spin it, Guardiola's Barca had a more successful spell than Zidane's pound for pound. He also added the ingenuity and luxury of providing the most beautiful mesmeric football style ever seen to go along with it. Talk about winning with class. Achieving both ain't for all and sundry.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 10:23pm On Jun 22, 2023
WhoDeyHause:

Caicedo to chelsea here we go and mbappe to real madrid here we go are still coming so don't celebrate yet.

Shameless man talking about caceido ,make una do Mumu go over pay like maga

Mbappe should come to Spain ,my real Mallorca boys will give him the Vinicius treatment while he spread his selfishness to the Madrid forward line

I will be there no matter what

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 10:25pm On Jun 22, 2023
Meanwhile I never see who collect L pass igbinme this season ,aka ibime

Messi give am L ,pep give am L

Who will give him another L next season ?

That man should just focus on standing cobhams frauds like galladog

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 10:37pm On Jun 22, 2023
andrewbaba44:


Shameless man talking about caceido ,make una do Mumu go over pay like maga

Mbappe should come to Spain ,my real Mallorca boys will give him the Vinicius treatment while he spread his selfishness to the Madrid forward line

I will be there no matter what
Common keep quiet. It's because he's not available on free transfers that's why it's paining you. Caicedo will be the greatest midfielder in your useless club that's if you can even pay his transfer commissions.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 10:40pm On Jun 22, 2023
ThierryJay:


Nobody would advocate for Barca after being robbed vs Madrid in that CDR final. Inter qualified through the skin of their teeth. That Barca team was expected to.sweep away any team before them then. They were that good.

3 peat team that didnt even know they were going to.win a 3 peat. Only in 2016/17 were they heads and shoulders above the other teams.

I consider City 2023, Bayern 2020 and Madrid 98 - 2001 as better than the 3 peat team.

Enough of this hype abeg,city 2023 shouldn’t be in any of this conversation.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:42pm On Jun 22, 2023
ThierryJay:


Being clever by half right? Major trophies for the season are the UCL, the league and the local cup. Are you saying the FA cup/CDR is not a major trophy or isnt that what Madrid was doing alariwo bus parade for all over the city last month?

Using your logic, in 3 years, Guardiola won 2 UCL, 3 la Liga and 2 CDR which is 7/9 or 78% key trophy wins.

In 3 years, Zizou won 3 UCL and 1 la liga and Zero CDR equating to 4/9 or 44% key trophy wins.

Even if we allocate a weight of 2 league titles as equal to Zizou's extra single UCL (which is very generous by the way), Zizou will still be at 5/9 or 5/8 which is still way below Pep's 78% rate.

The difference could not be clearer. No matter which way you spin it, Guardiola's Barca had a more successful spell than Zidane's pound for pound. He also added the ingenuity and luxury of providing the most beautiful mesmeric football style ever seen to go along with it. Talk about winning with class. Achieving both ain't for all and sundry.


No one cares about your Copa del Rey

You tried to commit fraud by assigning 4 years to Zidanes 3peat team instead of 2.5 years and you've been rumbled

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 10:44pm On Jun 22, 2023
ThierryJay:


Being clever by half right? Major trophies for the season are the UCL, the league and the local cup. Are you saying the FA cup/CDR is not a major trophy or isnt that what Madrid was doing alariwo bus parade for all over the city last month?

Using your logic, in 3 years, Guardiola won 2 UCL, 3 la Liga and 2 CDR which is 7/9 or 78% key trophy wins.

In 3 years, Zizou won 3 UCL and 1 la liga and Zero CDR equating to 4/9 or 44% key trophy wins.

Even if we allocate a weight of 2 league titles as equal to Zizou's extra single UCL (which is very generous by the way), Zizou will still be at 5/9 or 5/8 which is still way below Pep's 78% rate.

The difference could not be clearer. No matter which way you spin it, Guardiola's Barca had a more successful spell than Zidane's pound for pound. He also added the ingenuity and luxury of providing the most beautiful mesmeric football style ever seen to go along with it. Talk about winning with class. Achieving both ain't for all and sundry.
If RM had won the league in 2015-16 it would have counted for Zidane just like the UCL. Imagine someone fibbing that RM that finished 1 point behind Barca were never in contention for that same league by January.

For context Barca had 91 points to RMs 90 yet some how the fact that Zidane did not win the league should not count against him. LOL

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 10:47pm On Jun 22, 2023
popizaino:


Enough of this hype abeg,city 2023 shouldn’t be in any of this conversation.

There is a reason people are hesitant to engage you on this topic. It is because your arguments will be more emotional than factual. There is no world that City 2023 won't be treated as one of the GOAT teams. They tick all the boxes more so than the Bayern team you keep bringing up.

Are you not the one who crowned Ancelotti the best for winning the UCL less convincingly than this same City you now claim are not that good?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 10:48pm On Jun 22, 2023
Ibime:



No one cares about your Copa del Rey

You tried to commit fraud by assigning 4 years to Zidanes 3peat team instead of 2.5 years and you've been rumbled

Lol Madrid obviously cares about winning a Copa Del Rey. Or what was the noise they were making last month about? Between you and Vinicius who should we believe about what matters to Madrid?

Whether 2.5 or 3 years, Pep's Barca still trumps him over that same time span. And if they met each other, Pep's Barca would chew that 3peat team inside out over and over again and have them scurrying off tail between legs.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 10:48pm On Jun 22, 2023
hensben:
Chelsea owner bought the club.
wait o, when was that?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:56pm On Jun 22, 2023
ThierryJay:


Lol Madrid obviously cares about winning a Copa Del Rey. Or what was the noise they were making last month about? Between you and Vinicius who should we believe about what matters to Madrid?

Whether 2.5 or 3 years, Pep's Barca still trumps him over that same time span. And if they met each other, Pep's Barca would chew that 3peat team inside out over and over again.

Your wahala, if you like count Community shield join

For the record, Zidane resigned before contesting the third CWC and European Super Cup he qualified them for having completed work in just 2.5 years. It's not by counting trophies which are foregone conclusions. There are 2 major trophies and Zidane won 80% of them, he is not looking for Principals Cup or Shell Cup to bolster his records. Omo Community shield

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 11:02pm On Jun 22, 2023
Ibime:


Your wahala, if you like count Community shield join

For the record, 2.5 years matters because Zidane resigned before contesting the third CWC and European Super Cup he qualified them for. It's not by counting trophies which are foregone conclusions. Omo Community shield

Failed attempt. Your subjective non-factual opinion doesn't count.

Major trophies are the stand alone trophies club's target at beginning of season. They carry weight, go and ask Vinicius. Go and ask Cristiano whether he doesnt regard the CDR he won in 2011 or Bale about the 2014 one.

Associated trophies are the jaras clubs get to chase by reason of winning major trophies. That's the group the community shields, supercups and the CWCs belong to. Difference dey, no dey use ogboju to drive failed agenda.

In 2.5 years, Pep won more major trophies than Zizou. Shikena.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by omotola90(m): 11:03pm On Jun 22, 2023
WhoDeyHause:

Caicedo to chelsea here we go and mbappe to real madrid here we go are still coming so don't celebrate yet.
gundogan deal right now rates high on social media...sure of mbappe...but caicedo,let's see
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:06pm On Jun 22, 2023
Android17:
If RM had won the league in 2015-16 it would have counted for Zidane just like the UCL. Imagine someone fibbing that RM that finished 1 point behind Barca were never in contention for that same league by January.

For context Barca had 91 points to RMs 90 yet some how the fact that Zidane did not win the league should not count against him. LOL

Thanks for confirming his work

For the record, Zidane played 20 league games in 2015/16, winning 17, drawing 2 and losing just 1. That's 53 points in 20 games.

That would equate to a 101 point season over 38 games, a LaLiga ALL-TIME record, and ten points ahead of Barcas 91 points.

That buttresses the point that 2016 league loss is not part of his records.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:11pm On Jun 22, 2023
ThierryJay:


Failed attempt. Your subjective non-factual opinion doesn't count.

Major trophies are the stand alone trophies club's target at beginning of season. They carry weight, go and ask Vinicius. Go and ask Cristiano whether he doesnt regard the CDR he won in 2011 or Bale about the 2014 one.

Associated trophies are the jaras clubs get to chase by reason of winning major trophies. That's the group the community shields, supercups and the CWCs belong to. Difference dey, no dey use ogboju to drive failed agenda.

In 2.5 years, Pep won more major trophies than Zizou. Shikena.


I couldn't even tell you who won Copa last year or any random year but I can name all UCL winners going back to 1993 and all Prem winners in that time period and probably 70% of LaLiga and Serie A winners

Without Google, I bet you can't tell me who won Italian Cup in 2017.

Rest with your Copa del Alcorcorn agenda.

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