abeg who get connection, i won give government solution to curtail increase in food

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Khyrvxjzy hpost=124118851:
abeg who get connection, i won give government solution to curtail increase in food

ha ve you read what you typed. When hunger is devastating the land you want to curtail food increase?

Hope that's not what you mean

ZKOSOSO:
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1 discouraged local farmers
2 centralized farming
3 farming companies
4 competition

explanation 1 dont make farming interesting to locals, it wont be easy but the only way is to fall price with help of government
2 centralized is giving production to some certain hands(companies)
3 companies packaging product with these it will be easy for government to oversee price
4 competition Making sure lot of companies are into farming
disadvantage of my research 1 a company may seat on price because he is d only one doing it so make lot of companies do this, best solution is government so start the company grow it well, make companies salivate for farming and food den give lot of license


abeg i too get brain who get tinubu phone number



jhoncrazu412...

u can even see i talk about d disadvantage here initially... an i profer solution infact example of the solution is the nnpc(government then) they only have license to import oil, now dem don give license to lot of companies...

so no monopoly

psucc:
ha ve you read what you typed. When hunger is devastating the land you want to curtail food increase?

Hope that's not what you mean

bro i dont understand what u are saying, am saying i won better food security

please make me understand what u mean

ZKOSOSO:
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An Agric expert is in the building 👷‍♂️ 😀

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the only thing remaining is fresh food like fruit

fruit cant be package, so let the company fall price so badly and make sure competition

Read again what you posted. The sentence is incomplete. It is not giving the intended message.

Khyrvxjzy:


bro i dont understand what u are saying, am saying i won better food security

please make me understand what u mean

psucc:
Read again what you posted. The sentence is incomplete. It is not giving the intended message.

i explained up there

Khyrvxjzy:


1 discouraged local farmers
2 centralized farming
3 farming companies
4 competition

explanation 1 dont make farming interesting to locals, it wont be easy but the only way is to fall price with help of government
2 centralized is giving production to some certain hands(companies)
3 companies packaging product with these it will be easy for government to oversee price
4 competition Making sure lot of companies are into farming
disadvantage of my research 1 a company may seat on price because he is d only one doing it so make lot of companies do this, best solution is government so start the company grow it well, make companies salivate for farming and food den give lot of license


abeg i too get brain who get tinubu phone number

Oga even Albert Eisten sef de learn work for where u de

From ya Monica it's obvious the brain is short circuited somewhere. Your written English is for primary school drop out.
Background.....Africa is largely a subsistence farming Continent. It's the job for all villagers. About 70% of us all are farmers. All your points are jaundiced with zero knowledge of the economics of agriculture business.

Take Tinubu no....04067gt987j34hds23k80 call him.

ZKOSOSO:
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Oga even Albert Eisten sef de learn work for where u de

From ya Monica it's obvious the brain is short circuited somewhere. Your written English is for primary school drop out.
Background.....Africa is largely a subsistence farming Continent. It's the job for all villagers. About 70% of us all are farmers. All your points are jaundiced with zero knowledge of the economics of agriculture business.

Take Tinubu no....04067gt987j34hds23k80 call him.

abeg no insult me


70% are farmers how has that help us, food stuff still increase, u cant profer solution and i did u did not even highlight what i said

bros nawa for u ooo

Khyrvxjzy:


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the only thing remaining is fresh food like fruit

fruit cant be package, so let the company fall price so badly and make sure competition

Primary food production is raw farming
Secondary food production is processing n packaging
Tertiary food production is export, distribution n policy formulation up to International trade level.

Each of these is guided by market forces of demand and supply. Price fixing, government regulations and intervention are what dictate what get to everyone.

Subsidizing farm inputs such as seedlings, seed, fertilizers, herbicides and pesticides and mitigation the devastating effects of post harvest losses through glut purchase by government are the immediate steps to boost food production and cushioning the high prices of foodstuffs

ZKOSOSO:


Primary food production is raw farming
Secondary food production is processing n packaging
Tertiary food production is export, distribution n policy formulation at International trade level.

how does this relate to my topic?

bro u just they say lot of things

Khyrvxjzy:



abeg no insult me


70% are farmers how has that help us, food stuff still increase, u cant profer solution and i did u did not even highlight what i said

bros nawa for u ooo

Read further my Oga....

Khyrvxjzy:


how does this relate to my topic?

bro u just they say lot of things

Because It's my field of expertise..

ZKOSOSO:


Because It's my field of expertise..

we are different swear, u dey read book i dey apply wisdom...

subsidize seed etc wont work bro...
companies sud come in, screw locals

same as developed countries

Khyrvxjzy:


1 discouraged local farmers
2 centralized farming
3 farming companies
4 competition

explanation 1 dont make farming interesting to locals, it wont be easy but the only way is to fall price with help of government
2 centralized is giving production to some certain hands(companies)
3 companies packaging product with these it will be easy for government to oversee price
4 competition Making sure lot of companies are into farming
disadvantage of my research 1 a company may seat on price because he is d only one doing it so make lot of companies do this, best solution is government so start the company grow it well, make companies salivate for farming and food den give lot of license


abeg i too get brain who get tinubu phone number

I think this your idea will turn out dangerous on the long run. Not to mention the level of hardship that it will bring to local farmers, who may not be able to adapt to other means of income.

This is what I propose
1. Govt should map out large farm lands in almost every local government area. Interested people will register on a portal, just like people registered for enpower.

Applicants will choose the type of agro they're interested in and the scale they can effectively manage.

2. The govt allocates all the farmlands to qualified candidates for a little fee to boost commitment. With options to buy crops and livestocks from a govt selected agro company at a discount.

3. I've spotted tractors and other agro equipments in almost every local govt secretariat and ministries of agric scattered throughout the nation, just rusting away from disuse. These machines should be moved to those farms estates for hire.

4. With lands, seeds, and machinery available. All major needs have been provided. The farmers will now hire the machineries and pay for all labour requirements.

5. The govt collects lease money every year and use it to create more farmlands, and other agro related infrastructures.

With this. You employ over 10million poor people who really need employment, agro and food processing companies will spring up. They'd be enough food to go round and govt will be generating billions per year from the millions of acres of farmlands.

Tickles001:


I think this your idea will turn out dangerous on the long run. Not to mention the level of hardship that it will bring to local farmers, who may not be able to adapt to other means of income.

This is what I propose
1. Govt should map out large farm lands in almost every local government area. Interested people will register on a portal, just like people registered for enpower.

Applicants will choose the type of agro they're interested in and the scale they can effectively manage.

2. The govt allocates all the farmlands to qualified candidates for a little fee to boost commitment. With options to buy crops and livestocks from a govt selected agro company at a discount.

3. I've spotted tractors and other agro equipments in almost every local govt secretariat and ministries of agric scattered throughout the nation, just rusting away from disuse. These machines should be moved to those farms estates for hire.

4. With lands, seeds, and machinery available. All major needs have been provided. The farmers will now hire the machineries and pay for all labour requirements.

5. The govt collects lease money every year and use it to create more farmlands, and other agro related infrastructures.

With this. You employ over 10million poor people who really need employment, agro and food processing companies will spring up. They'd be enough food to go round and govt will be generating billions per year from the millions of acres of farmlands.

hmmmm i like everything u said here

no 1 i am not heartless i did not mean locals sud become jobless i mean they sud begin work under companies

no 2 my idea is all about price control, how can govt control price wen u plant vegetables at ur backyard

no3 all these pumping money to agric, buying tractors. all these are already happening in Nigeria (buhari tried) just that its not working

bro i don move with people wey dey chop billions untop dis agric and dey no nothing

one oil company i think shell begin cashew or something last year that is what am saying

bro all am saying will even help the local farmers because they even go broke, the gain from increase in food is in d hand of middle men,

and u know nothing like middlemen in companies because companies can take care of transportation

Khyrvxjzy:



hmmmm i like everything u said here

no 1 i am not heartless i did not mean locals sud become jobless i mean they sud begin work under companies

no 2 my idea is all about price control, how can govt control price wen u plant vegetables at ur backyard

no3 all these pumping money to agric, buying tractors. all these are already happening in Nigeria (buhari tried) just that its not working

bro i don move with people wey dey chop billions untop dis agric and dey no nothing

one oil company i think shell begin cashew or something last year that is what am saying

bro all am saying will even help the local farmers because they even go broke, the gain from increase in food is in d hand of middle men,

and u know nothing like middlemen in companies because companies can take care of transportation

I get your view but I think my idea distributes benefits of agriculture to the common man that needs it. Than giving it over to few billionaires that will still strike a deal with the govt and hike prices.

1. Work where? Most of these companies will mechanize everything and the parts that require human labour with certainly be like other factory work in Nigeria. You work like a slave and earn so little that you can't save anything. Have you worked as a labourer in any Nigerian factory? I guess not. And remember the local farmers will never get any juicy position, only the manual labour position.

2. Govt wouldn't need to control the price because the market would regulate itself. Imagine boosting products by more than 50times. What do you think would happen. Prices of food will drop to all time low as local demand is almost lower than the supply. Remember the transportation costs of moving farm produce from north to south becomes well reduced, this means further price drop.

3. I didn't say govt should give money to anyone, it's the farmers that give govt money for the land. Just use the money to map out the already existing land. Like half of the required tractors and machineries have already been bought. Take a walk to ministeries of agric in your area and see new unused equipments.
Buhari gave little money to people with no access to large farmlands and no equipment. How do you think it will work?

Yes. The big companies can get the palm, coconut, cocoa, and cashew plantation. All those types that require long time before profit. But not the everyday food items.

Middle men will be put in their place with my arrangement. With such large farm with motorable roads leading there. Most people will come to the farm to buy things by themselves, and whatever is left the farmer can easily get in town and look for buyers. Middle men come to play when the farm is in a remote place that no one dares to go, too far from town with no public transport serving the area.
Once there's public transport to the farm and it's popular. Middle men will either throw green away or be thrown out of business.

See. If the government will just channel all the funds allocated to ministries of agric into acquisition and clearing of farmlands for just 4years, food will become 5times cheaper without regulating price and the govt rakes in billions every year from little dues. It's a win-win for everyone.

I have something similar for housing too. That will crash the price of getting a befitting accommodation in the country

Tickles001:
I have something similar for housing too. That will crash the price of getting a befitting accommodation in the country

housing hmmmm

i deal with land(farming, real estate) i have always worry about housing future, i stay in lagos and i cry wen people cant stay where they work, some even come from ogun because of house rent and doing that transportation is so much


to me the best way mortage(i dont know if it d right word that where worker will be paying little over some years and the house will be theirs) like the west... that God for tinubu credit system sha


i have nice transportation idea if i can bring alternative to danfo(yellow bus) and make it cheaper) imagine people rushing it... looking at trains etc

Tickles001:


I get your view but I think my idea distributes benefits of agriculture to the common man that needs it. Than giving it over to few billionaires that will still strike a deal with the govt and hike prices.

1. Work where? Most of these companies will mechanize everything and the parts that require human labour with certainly be like other factory work in Nigeria. You work like a slave and earn so little that you can't save anything. Have you worked as a labourer in any Nigerian factory? I guess not. And remember the local farmers will never get any juicy position, only the manual labour position.

2. Govt wouldn't need to control the price because the market would regulate itself. Imagine boosting products by more than 50times. What do you think would happen. Prices of food will drop to all time low as local demand is almost lower than the supply. Remember the transportation costs of moving farm produce from north to south becomes well reduced, this means further price drop.

3. I didn't say govt should give money to anyone, it's the farmers that give govt money for the land. Just use the money to map out the already existing land. Like half of the required tractors and machineries have already been bought. Take a walk to ministeries of agric in your area and see new unused equipments.
Buhari gave little money to people with no access to large farmlands and no equipment. How do you think it will work?

Yes. The big companies can get the palm, coconut, cocoa, and cashew plantation. All those types that require long time before profit. But not the everyday food items.

Middle men will be put in their place with my arrangement. With such large farm with motorable roads leading there. Most people will come to the farm to buy things by themselves, and whatever is left the farmer can easily get in town and look for buyers. Middle men come to play when the farm is in a remote place that no one dares to go, too far from town with no public transport serving the area.
Once there's public transport to the farm and it's popular. Middle men will either throw green away or be thrown out of business.

See. If the government will just channel all the funds allocated to ministries of agric into acquisition and clearing of farmlands for just 4years, food will become 5times cheaper without regulating price and the govt rakes in billions every year from little dues. It's a win-win for everyone.

i applaud you bro, well in this idea the government need to do some monitoring on d release fund cus na some people dey chop am....

i did some survey on grandut oil wen it sold for like refill 60naira, power oil come in then sold at 50naira, now power oil is at 100 to 120 but the refill (local) now over 200... whats your view on this... our bad economy is not reflecting in food eg with our bad economy (dollar and petrol) say food sud be sold at 100 naira(all expenses included) that food with get to final consumer at 200... can can u see that is not the government fault not economy fault, its just some people


its well sha

Tickles001:


I get your view but I think my idea distributes benefits of agriculture to the common man that needs it. Than giving it over to few billionaires that will still strike a deal with the govt and hike prices.

1. Work where? Most of these companies will mechanize everything and the parts that require human labour with certainly be like other factory work in Nigeria. You work like a slave and earn so little that you can't save anything. Have you worked as a labourer in any Nigerian factory? I guess not. And remember the local farmers will never get any juicy position, only the manual labour position.

2. Govt wouldn't need to control the price because the market would regulate itself. Imagine boosting products by more than 50times. What do you think would happen. Prices of food will drop to all time low as local demand is almost lower than the supply. Remember the transportation costs of moving farm produce from north to south becomes well reduced, this means further price drop.

3. I didn't say govt should give money to anyone, it's the farmers that give govt money for the land. Just use the money to map out the already existing land. Like half of the required tractors and machineries have already been bought. Take a walk to ministeries of agric in your area and see new unused equipments.
Buhari gave little money to people with no access to large farmlands and no equipment. How do you think it will work?

Yes. The big companies can get the palm, coconut, cocoa, and cashew plantation. All those types that require long time before profit. But not the everyday food items.

Middle men will be put in their place with my arrangement. With such large farm with motorable roads leading there. Most people will come to the farm to buy things by themselves, and whatever is left the farmer can easily get in town and look for buyers. Middle men come to play when the farm is in a remote place that no one dares to go, too far from town with no public transport serving the area.
Once there's public transport to the farm and it's popular. Middle men will either throw green away or be thrown out of business.

See. If the government will just channel all the funds allocated to ministries of agric into acquisition and clearing of farmlands for just 4years, food will become 5times cheaper without regulating price and the govt rakes in billions every year from little dues. It's a win-win for everyone.

its well, d north have most food companies

Khyrvxjzy:


housing hmmmm

i deal with land(farming, real estate) i have always worry about housing future, i stay in lagos and i cry wen people cant stay where they work, some even come from ogun because of house rent and doing that transportation is so much


to me the best way mortage(i dont know if it d right word that where worker will be paying little over some years and the house will be theirs) like the west... that God for tinubu credit system sha


i have nice transportation idea if i can bring alternative to danfo(yellow bus) and make it cheaper) imagine people rushing it... looking at trains etc

My Idea is somewhat different from that, but it will serve a lot of people in need of proper housing. It will also be beautiful, will drive social development and also a win-win for govt and the citizens.

Housing crisis is silently getting to critical level but no one is talking about it, until it gets beyond redemption.

Khyrvxjzy:



its well, d north have most food companies

Yeah, and most food items cheaper there because production surpass the local demand. That's what I want to replicate everywhere.
It gets expensive after middlemen buys it and transports it to the far south.

Khyrvxjzy:



i applaud you bro, well in this idea the government need to do some monitoring on d release fund cus na some people dey chop am....

i did some survey on grandut oil wen it sold for like refill 60naira, power oil come in then sold at 50naira, now power oil is at 100 to 120 but the refill (local) now over 200... whats your view on this... our bad economy is not reflecting in food eg with our bad economy (dollar and petrol) say food sud be sold at 100 naira(all expenses included) that food with get to final consumer at 200... can can u see that is not the government fault not economy fault, its just some people


its well sha

You're enjoying o. Power oil sells for 200 smallest one and 350 for the other bigger sachet. Remember most of these vegetable oil are more of chemicals than natural, and these chemicals are imported. The natural part of it like kernel are not as many. If we have kernel in surplus, farmers will be forced to sell off at competitive prices, reduces the need for chemical importation. This lowers the production cost that will reflect on the shelf price of finished product.

The reason for the price increase is because local demand is beyond the available raw material. Also the production materials and the oil itself can be stored for a long time. This allows hording, which will be rendered useless if raw materials are in excess.

As for the fund part. My proposal doesn't require govt to release any funds. It's the government that gets paid instead. But the govt can always monitor any office and prevent embezzlement if they really want to. It's the "chop make I chop" syndrome that has infected people at the top that's our problem.

Your analysis highlights the challenges faced by local farmers and proposes solutions such as government intervention, centralized farming, packaging by companies, and promoting competition. By lowering prices through government support, farming can become more appealing to locals. Centralized farming under certain hands can streamline production, while Packaging
by companies can facilitate price regulation by the government. Increasing competition among farming companies can also help drive innovation and efficiency. However, it's important to note that the disadvantages of your research include the potential for a single company to control prices. To encourage more companies to enter the farming sector, government initiatives can play a crucial role. As for your request for Tinubu's phone number, I'm sorry, but I don't have access to personal contact information.

Khyrvxjzy:


1 discouraged local farmers
2 centralized farming
3 farming companies
4 competition

explanation 1 dont make farming interesting to locals, it wont be easy but the only way is to fall price with help of government
2 centralized is giving production to some certain hands(companies)
3 companies packaging product with these it will be easy for government to oversee price
4 competition Making sure lot of companies are into farming
disadvantage of my research 1 a company may seat on price because he is d only one doing it so make lot of companies do this, best solution is government so start the company grow it well, make companies salivate for farming and food den give lot of license


abeg i too get brain who get tinubu phone number



jhoncrazu412...

u can even see i talk about d disadvantage here initially... an i profer solution infact example of the solution is the nnpc(government then) they only have license to import oil, now dem don give license to lot of companies...

so no monopoly

jhoncrazu412...

u can even see i talk about d disadvantage here initially... an i profer solution infact example of the solution is the nnpc(government then) they only have license to import oil, now dem don give license to lot of companies...

so no monopoly

i think u are saying this idea can work

jhoncrazu412:
Your analysis highlights the challenges faced by local farmers and proposes solutions such as government intervention, centralized farming, packaging by companies, and promoting competition. By lowering prices through government support, farming can become more appealing to locals. Centralized farming under certain hands can streamline production, while Packaging
by companies can facilitate price regulation by the government. Increasing competition among farming companies can also help drive innovation and efficiency. However, it's important to note that the disadvantages of your research include the potential for a single company to control prices. To encourage more companies to enter the farming sector, government initiatives can play a crucial role. As for your request for Tinubu's phone number, I'm sorry, but I don't have access to personal contact information.

i talk about disadvantage check up


joking about tinubu number


can my idea work?

Tickles001:


You're enjoying o. Power oil sells for 200 smallest one and 350 for the other bigger sachet. Remember most of these vegetable oil are more of chemicals than natural, and these chemicals are imported. The natural part of it like kernel are not as many. If we have kernel in surplus, farmers will be forced to sell off at competitive prices, reduces the need for chemical importation. This lowers the production cost that will reflect on the shelf price of finished product.

The reason for the price increase is because local demand is beyond the available raw material. Also the production materials and the oil itself can be stored for a long time. This allows hording, which will be rendered useless if raw materials are in excess.

As for the fund part. My proposal doesn't require govt to release any funds. It's the government that gets paid instead. But the govt can always monitor any office and prevent embezzlement if they really want to. It's the "chop make I chop" syndrome that has infected people at the top that's our problem.

cbn do release money, nirsal will provide you with tractors seed etc

Khyrvxjzy:


cbn do release money, nirsal will provide you with tractors seed etc

But it's missing the most important part, land. Cleared land solves 85% of the problem faced by people interested in farming. I just pray govt will repent one day and do the needful.
Most of the CBN and nirsal provision ends on paper for some regions. I'd look into it though, maybe I can make something out of it, luckily.