iLoveYouToo:
What’s he challenging it for? There was a forfeiture for fvck sake, he’s not denying that. It wasn’t a criminal matter

casualobserver:


Why are you people wasting your time? Even if it was a criminal offense and he was guilty, the law clearly states the offense must have been committed in the 10yrs preceding the election. Can you people not read? It’s there in black and white!!!

All the things. You people are fighting for in the petition are non starters.

I have not heard a single attempt at proving you actually won the election!

1. Irev is irrelevant, the Supreme Court ruled in the Osun state case

2. Certificates etc are pre election matters this has been ruled upon many times. In fact only yesterday it was ruled again in the case of Akwa Ibom governor.

3. The only case that needs to be determined in 25% of FCT and anyone with common sense knows that the Supreme Court can never rule that if a man wins 36 states but doesn’t win Abuja he cannot be president.

You people are wasting your time and giving your supporters false hope.

Again I state, you are not even saying you won.

madridguy:
Obi should go and take some rest and allow our president breathhhhhhhh

booblacain:


The question then is, will VIO give you fine for traffic offence, without you committing a traffic offence. That is the bone of contention here.

So, if VIO give you fine for an offence you are sure you did not commit, you will not contest it?

madridguy:
Obi should go and take some rest and allow our president breathhhhhhhh

favor914:
Was he convicted of any crime, Yankee no be Nigeria, so stick to what you know, don’t let bad belle cloud your misconstrued imagination.

SledgeHammerer:
The argument is no longer obi won the election. It's now Tinubu is not qualified. Lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣 eye don dey clear

favor914:
Was he convicted of any crime, Yankee no be Nigeria, so stick to what you know, don’t let bad belle cloud your misconstrued imagination.

1Dray:



Just as your heartless president is allowing the poor masses breath.

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his account. So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

Urheadmaster:
Yes. There's every sense in challenging the order if you are innocent

Ekeneegwu:


I am yet to see an innocent man who would gladly donate/ forfeit $400k+ to a foreign Govt.

nedekid:

Oga why?
So if vio or roadsafety fines you 5m, you will not not challenge it? You will pay the 5m, especially when you know you commited no such offence, even if you did, to challenge the fine as being excessive?
Haba, Let's fear God oh.

nedekid:
Abi oh.
Someone in the uk that does funds transfer had his account blocked by his bank. Why? The source of the customers money had kleg.
They thought my paddy will run, overlook money in his frozen account and move on.
For where, my guy took them to court, won the case, got his account opened.
Why will anyone forfeit close to half a million dollars? He did not even apeal?

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his account. So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

Penguin2:

Yeah.

He just decided to leave it as Father Christmas abi?

Penguin2:

Was he fined or not?

Penguin2:
If Tinubu is innocent of the allegations in the forfeiture order of the US Court of the District of Illinois, why has he not appealed that forfeiture order issued since 1993? Isn’t that what innocent people do?

https://saharareporters.com/2023/07/21/tinubu-hasnt-challenged-us-court-order-forfeiture-460000-narcotics-trafficking-any-court

Sermwell:

If they fine you for traffic offence, that means you committed the traffic offence. If you didn't commit the offence, you have every right to challenge the fine!!

You think everyone here is so daft like you?

BERNIMOORE:
that's a strong point, I think the Obi Lawyers are actually doing a diligent work here, ....I have read over and over again the submission of the Tinubu group about the forfeiture,and I discovered that they have only been flogging over & over again their own interpretation, mere guessing & often imposing their own views on the Matter, but we all know that the case itself, and of course the res of the case, actually originated from a criminal proceeding, and since it hasn't been challenged to mean otherwise by any Court of jurisdiction, it can only humbly concluded that the case still sits on its originating status...that is ''criminal case''

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his account. So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

Lotanna2:


It is not a judgment sir.if you read the charge seat very well,the fbi and dea through the attorney office went to the court to get an order to forfeit temporarily monies in those accounts they believed was linked to narcotics pending when investigation was concluded and tinubu and his lawyers appear in court to show cause why that order will not be permanent.it was an exparte order and tinubu and his lawyers never challenged it.it is the same way efcc gets temporary orders seizing timipre sylva,Donald duke,patience Jonathan properties when court proceedings have not behan or are ongoing...
It can only be a judgment if after a trial is commenced,concluded and a guilty charge is entered and sentenced passed.in this case,a forfeiture motion was sort and granted without formal trial.therefore,it is neither a conviction,fine or punishment

paramakina202:


So traficking narcotics is not criminal and dishonet in nature?
That is the reason why the drug lord should have appealed the forfeiture since he was trading in a legal substance that is not criminal in nature.

Penguin2:

Lol!

You block your brains from objectivity with tribalism which ends up distorting your cognition and reasoning.

Look at Section 137, subsection (d) of the 1999 constitution below. Did you see any mention of 10 years there?

Una go dey alright las las.

paramakina202:


Are you one of the judges at the tribunal?
Why not allow the Judges to decide?

franchasofficia:
They know the truth but their corn filled brain can't let them admit the truth.


Selfish lots forming lovers of Nigeria simply because they want to lay hands on Nigerians commonwealth to loot without working

Penguin2:

Lol!

You block your brains from objectivity with tribalism which ends up distorting your cognition and reasoning.

Look at Section 137, subsection (d) of the 1999 constitution below. Did you see any mention of 10 years there?

Una go dey alright las las.

Kukutente23:

You're confusing the two. There was a first order to close the three accounts linked to Tinubu with citibank, heritage trust and one other bank. That was the order you're referring to as temporary for not filing tax returns on then. It was after Tinubu showed up to make claims that the issue of drugs came up through IRS agent Kevin Moss. It was at that point that the judgement by the 9th Circuit court of illinois was entered to release the other accounts after he was able to prove he held those other monies in trust for his mother and uncle, while that of heritage was forfeited since it was established that Agbele and Adegboyega, who were both in jail for narcotics trafficking made transfers to, and were actually the referees when he opened the account.
Go back and read the court documents.

Lotanna2:


You are going far.obi and atiku are challenging based on that 460,000 dollars forfeiture.they are claiming it is a sentence or fine,they are not talking about the aftermath,they are limiting themselves to that forfeiture entered by the judge and I am also talking based on that that it wasn't a judgment nor a sentence or fine but a temporary order

Lotanna2:


You are going far.obi and atiku are challenging based on that 460,000 dollars forfeiture.they are claiming it is a sentence or fine,they are not talking about the aftermath,they are limiting themselves to that forfeiture entered by the judge and I am also talking based on that that it wasn't a judgment nor a sentence or fine but a temporary order

Penguin2:

Lol!

You block your brains from objectivity with tribalism which ends up distorting your cognition and reasoning.

Look at Section 137, subsection (d) of the 1999 constitution below. Did you see any mention of 10 years there?

Una go dey alright las las.