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| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Shantyken(m): 11:26am On Jul 22, 2023 |
Penguin2:Drugs is a crime so why was he not sentence to jail or his forfeiture to be criminal instead of civil |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Shantyken(m): 11:28am On Jul 22, 2023 |
Kukutente23:Was forfeiture criminal or civil? |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Kukutente23: 11:30am On Jul 22, 2023 |
Shantyken:It was not stated in the court records available, which is why the FBI is being asked to release the records with them which they have refused till now |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Alliswell248: 11:32am On Jul 22, 2023 |
PaellaPaella:Criminal who wasn't sentenced to jail? Criminal who wasn't sacked by his employer..Exxon Mobil? Criminal who was invited to Obama inauguration? Criminal who has been to the US on several occasions? Keep believing what soothe your pain. |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Ekeneegwu(m): 11:32am On Jul 22, 2023 |
favor914:Am not crying am only trying to edify you in something that may be beneficial to us .. since the suffer have doubled since your Drug lord came into power .
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| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by 1Dray(m): 11:36am On Jul 22, 2023 |
favor914:See the jobless poot masses we are fighting asslicking their tormentors. |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Alliswell248: 11:38am On Jul 22, 2023 |
Kukutente23:Obj took the case up in 2003 , and the report was they...US doesn't have any criminal record of Tinubu.... Obidients would soon be tired. |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by franchasofficia: 11:39am On Jul 22, 2023 |
favor914:Owomida BATstards, worst than ISIS ati Barbarians |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by SledgeHammerer: 11:39am On Jul 22, 2023 |
INVINCIBLECSP1:You didn't answer the question. So obi didn't win the election again? Stop running around like a sex starved mosquito. All we were hearing was obi won the election. Suddenly that has been abandoned for lack of evidence. It's now Tinubu is not qualified. Hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣 bloody losers! You have 8yrs to cry. Byeeeeeee oooooooooo Lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Alliswell248: 11:41am On Jul 22, 2023 |
Ekeneegwu:Keep wasting your time looking for what is not missing. Your stolen mandate.... No one gave Obi the mandate in the first instance. He was rejected by we Northerners. |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by valentineuwakwe(m): 11:41am On Jul 22, 2023 |
iLoveYouToo:How is it not a criminal case? So you go part ways with your $400k just like dat if you are innocent n not involve in illegal dealings.... U funny oo |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by ENZOSCIFO1: 11:44am On Jul 22, 2023 |
Penguin2:Tinubu did the right thing by allowing the forfeiture. Firstly, the forfeiture represented just 28% of the total sum in his possession (Accounts). Secondly, the forfeiture was in 2 parts. A $360K that was paid in by his client and $80K that was calculated to be accrued payable tax to the govt. Now, why should any reasonable person challenge any of that? He knew he didn't pay tax on the money in his account. And he also knows he does not know the source of the money paid in by his client/associate. Money meant for trading. So, in other words why would he argue with any of it. When in the real sense all he lost was $80K which is tax he didn't pay. And the $360K wasn't his own. |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by paramakina202: 11:51am On Jul 22, 2023 |
Shantyken:A non drug dealer can't live with drug dealers. Tinubu was deep into gbana runs. |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by smartemperor042: 11:52am On Jul 22, 2023 |
Guy u be fool oh. So Vio can charge you and u go to make the payment in such huge sum when u didn't commit the offense? Go get sense! seunmsg: |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Lotanna2: 11:54am On Jul 22, 2023 |
Kukutente23:There was no judgement,there are four phases Phase one,us attorney Michael j Shepard filed a complaint motion for for forteiture pending procedures. Phase two,us internal revenue agent Kevin moss also filed a motion for seizure pending court proceedings based on his investigation.he confirmed that tinubu worked with Mobil and Deloitte Phase three,judge nordberh clearly identified that it was an exparte motion brought to it by the us attorney and gave the temporary order pending when all parties are served. Phase four,an out of court settlement supervised by the court or compromise agreement was reached where two accounts were unfrozen and one was forfeited which amounted to 460k via civil forfeiture.the judge merely supervised and formalised it,it was not a judgment or sentence or fine.no guilty charge was found.it was just a court supervised agreement akin to a property or marriage case.obi and atiku as usual wasted their time on this |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Kukutente23: 11:54am On Jul 22, 2023 |
Alliswell248:Stop telling lies. OBJ never took up the case. The FBI attaché in Nigeria replied Tafa not OBJ. That said, I don't know why the integrity of the holder of the office of president of your country is for obidients alone. Do you mean you don't care if a criminal rules you? What are you teaching your kids? |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Emekaonline: 11:58am On Jul 22, 2023 |
Penguin2:So why has Obi never challenged the newspapers that exposed his yes daddy video despite threatening to sue them. Yet he denied the audio conversations ever took place |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by StarRiderr: 11:59am On Jul 22, 2023 |
slowice:laugh wan Kee me here ooo ![]() |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Lotanna2: 12:00pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
Kukutente23:Obi and atiku have no case just speculations |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by PlayerMeji: 12:02pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
Klington:
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| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Shantyken(m): 12:05pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
Eriokanmi:Excluding me and my bloodline ooo |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Pray(m): 12:09pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
Money he would have collected back doubled one way or the other. The US property in Atlantic city were they given for free? |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Alliswell248: 12:11pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
Kukutente23:Criminal? Was he sentenced like those in Asia prisons? Anything to soothe your election pain is welcome. |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by aswani(m): 12:12pm On Jul 22, 2023*. Modified: 6:41am On Feb 12 |
Poske95:Which electoral law exactly? Can you at least reference the section and subsection? I am asking because I haven't seen it though I might have missed it in checking. By the way, organisations have spent more on IT related applications that have failed, you can ask NASA about that for starters. Not that it is important to me sha. |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by omooba74(m): 12:12pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
Forfeiture case was civil case not criminal case but cos most of them are ingnorants ,unintelligents and ethnic jingoistic .... |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Kukutente23: 12:13pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
Lotanna2:You're coming around to telling the truth though there are still snippet of lies as is usual with an APC rat. Phase1 Shephard filed the motion for 1m forfeiture based on IRS investigation by Agent Moss. Phase 2 Moss couldn't have filed a motion because he's not an attorney. He was an investigator. He testified against Tinubu. The FBI briefs later showed that the referees for the accounts were indicted for drugs which led Moss to believe the reason why tinubu failed to file tax returns for those accounts was because the were proceeds for the traffickers. He interviewed Mobil who said tinubu was just a junior levering staff on a 2400 salary a month and couldn't have had millions of dollars from his legit earnings. This falsifies the claim tinubu made in an interview with TheNews that he was already a millionaire in dollars while working for Mobil. Mind you, in that interview, he claimed he never worked in Mobil USA but UK. Phase 3 Judge Nordberg never said anything about ex parte order as you claimed. Tinubu who was in Nigeria then, was simply informed of the forfeiture by his banks after which he claimed two of those three accounts contained funds kept in trust for his mum and uncle. Phase 4 No out of court settlement anywhere. Since Tinubu couldn't explain the source of funds of the third account, which is the one Agbele and Adegboyega helped him to open, the judge ordered the funds be forfeited and the judgment entered as final settlement in the matter without any indemnity on future claims concerning the funds. Note that tinubu did not go to the US to claim the funds physically. He only hired a lawyer on his behalf. So i guess, the US authorities thought it will be a waste of time trying to get him to the US without strong evidence linking him to narcotics beyond housing funds. Thus, the decided to take the money and die the matter. So your claim like tinubu sat down to negotiate settlement with IRS is a big lie. |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Alliswell248: 12:14pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
Kukutente23:So, Tafa was acting for himself abi. So FBI attache lied abi... Keep deceiving yourself looking for what is not missing. Is it by force that obi must rule Nigeria? We don't want him. We rejected him Rest pls |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by Shantyken(m): 12:15pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
TheOldGods:And did the US government treat it as criminal offense |
| Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by solreb: 12:16pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
Penguin2:You need to understand the source of the $460k. The funds belonged to his uncle with whom he stayed while in school and new in the USA. That person and others were the ones involved in the narcotics biz. When the funds were traced to Tinubu's account, the authorities seized it. However the investigators did not establish that Tinubu was involved in the narcotics biz in anyway which is why he was jot prosecuted criminally. So, it was up to the uncle and not Tinubu to challenge the seizure. |
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