₦airaland Forum

luluman:
Olodo, just shut up, if you are not guilty you will challenge the VIO.

Correct.

madridguy:
Obi should go and take some rest and allow our president breathhhhhhhh

I laugh Obi and co. Instead of hammering on over voting, rigging and Inec wuruwurus. They are talking about 25% and forfeiture of small US Dollar. Kai, Obi, just be preparing for 2027. I pity u and your mumu lawyers

Lotanna2:
At least,we are in agreement that both obi and atiku have no case.forget the court matter,let us face the 8 years rule for better for worse.but if he fails to perform well by 2027,we can try someone else.shikena

Obi and Atiku have a case and it's in court. It is you nairaland judge that's running wild.
Face the 8 years alone oga. What you don't know is there are folks who don't pay for fuel no matter how costly.

Kukutente23:
Benefit of doubt that what? That he was into drugs? Even he knows he's not clean in that regard. Even his supporters know.
Regarding his performance, well he's already showing you the whole Lagos hype was a farce. When is the ministerial list going to come out?

Let us give him four years and them review him.obi failed woefully in anambra

Alliswell248:
Criminal?
Was he sentenced like those in Asia prisons?

Anything to soothe your election pain is welcome.

So if a criminal escapes, he's less of a criminal compared to those caught. Daft logic

Lotanna2:
Obi and atiku have no case just speculations

Rest. Let the court rule

Inosky:
You're not listening to yourself I swear. He denied and he didn't prove his innocence to clear his name, meaning his denial is useless as he was on paper still attached to the narcotics business dealing and he signed for his money to be taken, a whooping $460k. Use your brain very well, stop reasoning from anus.

President Tinubu doesn't have to prove anything especially when the person that said he was convicted can't prove the conviction.

Lotanna2:
Let us give him four years and them review him.obi failed woefully in anambra

Obi did not fail woefully in Anambra. Obi did not preform worse than Tinubu did in Lagos. The difference is that Obi did not capture Anambra in his pocket and raise an army of jobless youths to whitewash him with his succesor's success.
It's your business if you give him your whole life. You gave Buhari 8 years and after which you were still begging for 1k. Why didn't you review Buhari after four years?

Kukutente23:
Rest. Let the court rule

If you had rested,I won't bother myself

Kukutente23:
Obi and Atiku have a case and it's in court. It is you nairaland judge that's running wild.
Face the 8 years alone oga. What you don't know is there are folks who don't pay for fuel no matter how costly.

True.it is a faceless forum and we don't know who is who

Lotanna2:
If you had rested,I won't bother myself

I never quoted you

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his account. So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

what if you parked your car in your house and VIO came to fine you #5000 for parking in your house will you pay or challenge them?no innocent person will leave #460k dollars without a fight

Shantyken:
Excluding me and my bloodline ooo

I'm not being sarcastic bro and I didn't mean rich Nigerians don't exist. I spent close to that building my house. Don't forget that over half of our population is poor.

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his account. So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

Resulting from a drug trafficking. Don't mislead people.

Kukutente23:
There's so much ignorance in your post. Fayose showed clearly in court that he's the same person who bore Oluwayose.
Buhari fulfilled Constitutional provision by attending secondary school. The constitution never said he must possess a certificate. That was the interpretation of online lawyers and opposition.
Dino never forged anything. ABU came out to defend him that he indeed graduated from the school.
As for Salisu Buhari the Toronto man, he was never charged to court. I'm sure if his fate befalls Tinubu the opposition will be satisfied

I'm not so much going to join issue with you except on Fayose's case. He never ever proved himself to be the same person. It was his father's oral evidence that that was taken as bona-fide ground to judge the case in his favour because he was in the ruling party. Now , how can you take an oral evidence to judge a case where documentary evidence in the form of a court affidavit is expressly required? Or did bring any affidavits to support his claim. Can that privilege be granted to you or me? Just wait and see or believe whatever you choose to.

Eriokanmi:
I'm not being sarcastic bro and I didn't mean rich Nigerians don't exist. I spent close to that building my house. Don't forget that over half of our population is poor.

Am among the rich bro

Penguin2:
Was he fined or not?

We get fined everyday it is not a big thing.. Redlight, train without ticket, wrong parking etc.. Even ur obi i am sure has been fined..

madridguy:
Obi should go and take some rest and allow our president breathhhhhhhh

Blind maggot..."your drug baron president", shame suppose dey catch you, at your old age, you still dwell in foolery.

Kukutente23:
So if a criminal escapes, he's less of a criminal compared to those caught. Daft logic

A criminal who was never declared wanted.
A criminal Obama invited for his Presidential inauguration.
A criminal who has entered the US not a number of a occasions and wasn't arrested.

Keep deceiving yourself.

Lotanna2:
Don't mind that misguided,attention seeking bloke.the fine contemplated by the constitution must be borne out of a judgment or a guilty charge or a sentence and in Nigeria.the constitution went further to say a fine or sentence involving dishonesty or fraud which is criminal in nature.is narcotics fraud or dishonesty?

You sound dumb, I am just being honest.

madridguy:
Obi should go and take some rest and allow our president breathhhhhhhh

Who is your president?

basseeafricana:
I laugh Obi and co. Instead of hammering on over voting, rigging and Inec wuruwurus. They are talking about 25% and forfeiture of small US Dollar. Kai, Obi, just be preparing for 2027. I pity u and your mumu lawyers

Obi knows he has no figures anywhere to manufacture to prove anything.

He just wants to discredit the election and the winner, that’s all.

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his account. So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

You sabi the difference btw civil and criminal case?

Shantyken:
Then read e and f of that same chapter/section u quote again

Do I need to remind you that each of those subsections are independent?

You can’t lump the provision of subsection “e” on subsection “d”.

Are you wiser than the framers of the constitution?

casualobserver:
People see me see trouble o! I was going to search the web to post the relevant section but the slowpoke above didn’t even realize it is there in the portion of the constitution he posted.

Oga please just cast your eyes down to section E of what you posted and read.

Section D is “under sentence”. That means you are currently serving a sentence I.e community service, imprisonment etc and you have not finished or completed your sentence. Under sentence means your sentence hasn’t been carried out, I.e your prison term has not been served, your fine has not been paid And if you were sentenced to death, you have not been executed. Even if a fine was the sentence once you have paid it, you are no longer under sentence.

Section d and E together means you must not have been convicted and sentenced in the last 10 years (Section E) and any sentence due to a conviction must have been served (section D)


The problem with many of you is English. Something is right in front of you in black and white and you can’t even connect the dots….na wah oh! Your brains are dead…kaput!!!! Unfortunately I don’t think you people will ever be allright.

My friend know this and know peace, If you were convicted for murder 11 years ago and you were sentenced to 10yrs in prison and a fine of N1m. Once you have served your prison sentence ( even if you were released early for good behaviour like Ibori) and paid your fine in full as at the date of filling your forms you can contest for president. It’s there in black and white, thank God na you post the relevant section of the constitution with your own hand.

Go back and read that subsection D. This time read it to the end.

How many “OR” can you see? Did you see “any court”?

You can’t read the constitution in piecemeal just to extract the narrative you think suits you.

And whatever is provided for subsection E cannot apply to Subsection D. These subsections are independent and of equal weight.

Penguin2:
No. Narcotics is not fraud, narcotics is powder🤓

In fact, it’s dusting powder😎

Una go defend defend defend tire. Tribunal go still sack Tinubu.

Narcotics na Agbado salt, it's used in cooking red oil soup in Southwest

favor914:
Blind Hypocrite Penguin 🐧.

Look at Section 137, subsection (e) of the 1999 constitution as posted by yourself. Did you not see any mention of 10 years there?

More so Section 137, subsection (d) that you are hinging your hopes upon, refers to convictions by a tribunal or court in Nigeria.

Playing smart, but not been clever, more so it refers to conviction & fines by a Nigerian Court.

Go back and finish the subsection D.

How many “OR” can you see?

Penguin2:
Go back and read that subsection D. This time read it to the end.

How many “OR” can you see? Did you see “any court”?

You can’t read the constitution in piecemeal just to extract the narrative you think suits you.

And whatever is provided for subsection E cannot apply to Subsection D. These subsections are independent and of equal weight.

A court in Nigeria qualifies section D.the sentence must be conviction or something equivalent involving fraud or dishonesty.it says death sentence or imprisonment or sentence of fine which means conviction because when you are convicted,you must be imprisoned or alternatively fined.there is no such thing against tinubu

SledgeHammerer:
The argument is no longer obi won the election. It's now Tinubu is not qualified. Lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣 eye don dey clear

And how are BOTH mutually-exclusive?!
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Lotanna2:
Was it in Nigeria? Was it a sentence? A sentence comes when you are found guilty

Look again…

Can you see “any court”?

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his account. So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

This case was related to narcotics and money laundering. I hope you know what that means

Penguin2:
Look again…

Can you see “any court”?

Of law or tribunal in Nigeria and all the sentences equals conviction