₦airaland Forum

royalfly:
What standard are you talking about. You all talk but know nothing about what you talk. Nigerian students after studies here always leave the country to other so called better places and doing better. Cozy class room is not quality education. If you ask nicely I will tell u why we always do better. See, the quality is what the government wants to kill and exchange it for ac class rooms and painted walls. Most Government secondary schools still produce the best students, go and find out despite all the big money paying schools around. Please try and find out the true meaning of quality education

Which government university can match Covenant university? Oh! Should I be telling you school is already building a niche for itself when it comes to academic excellence.

You mentioned Nigerians going abroad and performing well, even illiterates travel abroad and also make it. Nigerians are good competitors cos we would accept anything, just like Indians

Very few and minute graduates can compete with their counterparts around the world, and those few did not get such knowledge directly from their school, they personally educated themselves to be that good. More than half of what we even call universities shouldn’t be called such names.

What are you trying to hype about Nigerian university’s? What quality or standards are in those schools and how has it impacted Nigeria? The fact that we keep churning out half baked graduates is why we are where we are today. Innovation and research is DEAD!

HacheNoire:
Waste of time!

No going back!

Tertiary education is not for all. Only those who can afford it should be in the university.

If NANS needs bribe, they should come out clear, instead of using protest to threaten the government.

It’s glaring that, if Nigerian universities want to compete and attain standards, the government can NEVER fund it.

When things are good, people would praise the government but when things are bad, they reprimand them and when this happens, nobody should see it as witch-hunt. Its part of democracy. Your notion that tertiary institutions or public university can't be funded by government isnt good enough. If in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, public universities were well funded by the federal government with lots of encouragement on their part to get Nigerians educated, nothing should change now. Many of those in govt today were beneficiaries of the govt's well-funded universities in their time, including the 100% tuition free declared by awolowo.

The situation is still the same in many countries of the world today, who want something good for their people. Public schools are almost free in many countries and they see the results on their economy, development, etc today. In America, education is free in the public schools up to a certain level, regardless of your citizenship status. It's heavily funded by the govt. In some countries,its 50% free while international students only bear the burden. My cousin attended a public university in Russia. It was almost free. Russian govt funds them. Why is Nigeria an exception? How many people were going to private universities in those days? Did we even have one? What has changed....its bad leadership.

Why would people who are less than 1000 in population share over 75bn naira in the national assembly when ASUU was only asking for so little, part of which was for the development of unis in the country? Why not reduce the number of lawmakers and use the money to fund education? If you check the budget on education each year, you'd feel sorry for Nigerians. The result is where we are as a nation today...unemployment,.insecurity, yahoo yahoo, ritual killings, economic woes, etc.

What will end this nonsense is revolution. Sadly, our people forget things easily. Endsars is still fresh. Nobody ever knew it would happen. All tribes participated in it. They should prevent something worse by doing the needful. They're the ones taking the lion share in our annual budget.

Does NANS still exist? Funny!
The government is far better than NLC,TUC or NANS.
Join them I won’t need to tell you the rest.

Tinubuderanged:
They were hailing the drug lord because of a loan that non of them can make up the condition before the loan. Now Tinubu has shown them Shege.

This one na shege banza pro max, the next one will be Dan buro uba.

Eriokanmi:
When things are good, people would praise the government but when things are bad, they reprimand them and when this happens, nobody should see it as witch-hunt. Its part of democracy. Your notion that tertiary institutions or public university can't be funded by government isnt good enough. If in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, public universities were well funded by the federal government with lots of encouragement on their part to get Nigerians educated, nothing should change now. Many of those in govt today were beneficiaries of the govt's well-funded universities in their time, including the 100% tuition free declared by awolowo.

The situation is still the same in many countries of the world today, who want something good for their people. Public schools are almost free in many countries and they see the results on their economy, development, etc today. In America, education is free in the public schools up to a certain level, regardless of your citizenship status. It's heavily funded by the govt. In some countries,its 50% free while international students only bear the burden. My cousin attended a public university in Russia. It was almost free. Russian govt funds them. Why is Nigeria an exception? How many people were going to private universities in those days? Did we even have one? What has changed....its bad leadership.

Why would people who are less than 1000 in population share over 75bn naira in the national assembly when ASUU was only asking for so little, part of which was for the development of unis in the country? Why not reduce the number of lawmakers and use the money to fund education? If you check the budget on education each year, you'd feel sorry for Nigerians. The result is where we are as a nation today...unemployment,.insecurity, yahoo yahoo, ritual killings, economic woes, etc.

What will end this nonsense is revolution. Sadly, our people forget things easily. Endsars is still fresh. Nobody ever knew it would happen. All tribes participated in it. They should prevent something worse by doing the needful. They're the ones taking the lion share in our annual budget.

How many countries are tertiary education free and inexpensive? What was our population in the 60’s and 80’s compared to what we have now? The financial burden on the government at this point, does not allow such any longer.

We cannot even fund the public primary and secondary schools to standard, all is in shambles, and here we are again, still canvassing for government funding for the tertiary institutions. Such funds should be channeled to primary and secondary education, that’s the basics that is required of the government.

It’s not feasible except we just want to keep issuing certificates and mass producing half baked graduates, who at the end of the day, practically have nothing to compete with. The UNILAGS, OAU, UI and UNIBEN are all living on old glory, as the schools are drowning and decaying, which is all as a result of funds. Both lecturers and student have completely lost it, and no one cares, cos at the end of the day, they will get the peanuts. Motivation, zeal and passion has left academics.

The government should focus on basic education, tertiary is not for all.

AsomughaChuks05:
Nobody should pay NANS any attention. They are crooks looking for settlement. See their mouths like threaten

How? Have you forgotten nans supported Tinubu's election? Google is your friend. So, when some things aren't right , those who voted their leaders shouldn't protest abi? The federal government knows what to do, if they really mean well for Nigeria. Imagine only the NA sharing over 75bn naira, a less than 1k population? Common! Check the percentage of the annual budgets on education with countries and compare it with Nigeria's. Its like nothing.

Education is the future of any nation. When pa Awolowo was sending people into homes and buying sweets for the children just to encourage them to follow those people to school which was also free( the govt bought everything), a particular region back then said, it was a waste of money and education can't be free. Which region is the most educated today? Which region is the most developed today? Which region is most peaceful today in Nigeria? You can answer that yourself. That's what education can do whennthe govt is fully involved. The region that said it can't be free back then is worse by all manner of vices and poverty today. The few among them who are leaders today either schooled here or they attended missionary schools in their regions which was also free back then.

Where education can't be free, it should be well run and funded by the government. Most of our people running overseas to study do go to public institutions. Education and Healthcare are Well funded over there. Inschooled in a public institution over there. Imagine German universities offering almost 100% tuition free in scholarship to our people. A friend's brother benefited from this. What do you now think they'd do to their own people? Nobody knew covenant, bowen, babcock, ajayi Crowther, etc back then. Our universities ranked among the best globally cos government was fully involved and cared for the people. They weren't the best because people paid high fees back then.

In the 70s up until early 90s, our tertiary institutions were well funded. I used to see foreigners in UI back then, schooling. UCH was the best hospital in africa and 4th in commonwealth back then. Patients were being flown into Nigeria from as far as Egypt. Let the govt invest in education instead of unleashing hardship on Nigerians. That's why they're in government, not about sharing money. Imagine one accountant general stealing over 100bn naira? That's just one person who was exposed. Maybe he didn't settle people well cos there are lots of them like that who have not been caught yet

Education is the back bone and future of every nation

HacheNoire:
How many countries are tertiary education free and inexpensive? What was our population in the 60’s and 80’s compared to what we have now? The financial burden on the government at this point, does not allow such any longer.

We cannot even fund the public primary and secondary schools to standard, all is in shambles, and here we are again, still canvassing for government funding for the tertiary institutions. Such funds should be channeled to primary and secondary education, that’s the basics that is required of the government.

It’s not feasible except we just want to keep issuing certificates and mass producing half baked graduates, who at the end of the day, practically have nothing to compete with. The UNILAGS, OAU, UI and UNIBEN are all living on old glory, as the schools are drowning and decaying, which is all as a result of funds. Both lecturers and student have completely lost it, and no one cares, cos at the end of the day, they will get the peanuts. Motivation, zeal and passion has left academics.

The government should focus on basic education, tertiary is not for all.

You said... How many countries are tertiary education free and inexpensive? What was our population in the 60’s and 80’s compared to what we have now? ...now let me ask you these questions too?

What's the population of China in the 60s and what is it now? Why did Chinese govt spend so much on education and research? We're over 200m population today Whereas, China is 5 times more populated than us. Population isn't the issue but leadership.

What's the Indian population today? The last time I checked, they'd soon overtake China yet, their government never stopped funding education and research. Nigerians are there schooling. Up to 90s, we had Indians schooling here. Now, you can't find any. The government had improved so well on their education sector.

Sadly,.only in Nigeria do we give excuses instead of blaming bad leadership on our woes. During my schooling in US, I didn't see a single Chinese in my department. Those few seen had their parents living there as citizens. Some still preferred sending their children home to school. Why is Nigeria mata come dey different? Our growing population shouldn't be an excuse because budget in the 60s isn't also same as now, so also are revenues generated by the govt. No excuse at all. If Awolowo could build one of the best universities in their time with revenues from cocoa, what happens to revenues from crude oil, customs duties, taxes, royalties from telecommunications, just name it? How many public universities do we even have,.compared to China and India who are 5 times our population? Make una try to dey read and go out small, small so you guys can stop defending the indefensible.

An accountant general stole over 200bn naira when ASUU, a nationwide body was asking for something smaller...the man is still walking freely today. What of the 75bn to be voted to national assembly who are not up to 1000 people? The government knows what to do but I doubt they'd go that route.

The day we end bad leadership is when we'd begin to get it right in Nigeria. There are millions of non-citizens in America today whose children are enjoying free education. When you want to destroy a country's future, just discourage education and you'd win. Enough said!

phorget:
Those with higher qualifications have not gotten any job either.

That's the real problem we're having. On a normal level, people should be able to earn decent living with O'level.

ivolt:
Is this not the dumb group who hailed the "loan" scheme they didn't understand?
They even went to swap pictures in Aso Rock to celebrate their boundage.

God bless who might have written this comments,I wondered why they are crying now ?the same set of fools who went to celebrate scam at Aso Rock with the drug Lord .It’s a pity this nation has no future.

Eriokanmi:
How? Have you forgotten nans supported Tinubu's election? Google is your friend. So, when some things aren't right , those who voted their leaders shouldn't protest abi? The federal government knows what to do, if they really mean well for Nigeria. Imagine only the NA sharing over 75bn naira, a less than 1k population? Common! Check the percentage of the annual budgets on education with countries and compare it with Nigeria's. Its like nothing.

Education is the future of any nation. When pa Awolowo was sending people into homes and buying sweets for the children just to encourage them to follow those people to school which was also free( the govt bought everything), a particular region back then said, it was a waste of money and education can't be free. Which region is the most educated today? Which region is the most developed today? Which region is most peaceful today in Nigeria? You can answer that yourself. That's what education can do whennthe govt is fully involved. The region that said it can't be free back then is worse by all manner of vices and poverty today. The few among them who are leaders today either schooled here or they attended missionary schools in their regions which was also free back then.

Where education can't be free, it should be well run and funded by the government. Most of our people running overseas to study do go to public institutions. Education and Healthcare are Well funded over there. Inschooled in a public institution over there. Imagine German universities offering almost 100% tuition free in scholarship to our people. A friend's brother benefited from this. What do you now think they'd do to their own people? Nobody knew covenant, bowen, babcock, ajayi Crowther, etc back then. Our universities ranked among the best globally cos government was fully involved and cared for the people. They weren't the best because people paid high fees back then.

In the 70s up until early 90s, our tertiary institutions were well funded. I used to see foreigners in UI back then, schooling. UCH was the best hospital in africa and 4th in commonwealth back then. Patients were being flown into Nigeria from as far as Egypt. Let the govt invest in education instead of unleashing hardship on Nigerians. That's why they're in government, not about sharing money. Imagine one accountant general stealing over 100bn naira? That's just one person who was exposed. Maybe he didn't settle people well cos there are lots of them like that who have not been caught yet

Education is the back bone and future of every nation

The Accountant General was caught when and under whose administration Saint Buhari isn't
Una never serious🤠

NLegendforte:
You are wrong, relative to the earnings of average Nigerians I don't think we are paying paltry sums. Stop comparing us with other countries with bigger advanced economy

Let's be honest with ourselves. you can't sustain a University system when students are paying 100k per session. You can't, unless you're subsidizing it. Our education system is heavily subsidized.
KWASU students were paying as high as 100k, some higher, as at 2017, and I can tell you for free that the total couldn't cover Lecturers salary in a year(you have to pay these people well if you intend to keep capable hands) . No mention of other non-academic staff or other expenses yet. Many capital projects are there too.
If you doubt it, just imagine how Covenant University would be if the students are paying 50k annually.

I think the FG should divert the resources going to tertiary institutions to primary and secondary educations. Universities and others should be allowed to run independently, but monitor their spendings. You'll see a huge difference in 10 years.

In the advanced world you talked about, most people who are in the universities are not paying out of pocket. Most can't afford it with their level of income. They take student loan.
The recent bill about student loan won't help in this regard. It's too lacking.
Universities should partner with Banks directly to fashion out a better package that suits their needs.
I took a student loan in millions of Naira for a one year training, and I'm glad I did.

Eriokanmi:
Where education can't be free, it should be well run and funded by the government. Most of our people running overseas to study do go to public institutions. Education and Healthcare are Well funded over there. Inschooled in a public institution over there. Imagine German universities offering almost 100% tuition free in scholarship to our people. A friend's brother benefited from this. What do you now think they'd do to their own people? Nobody knew covenant, bowen, babcock, ajayi Crowther, etc back then. Our universities ranked among the best globally cos government was fully involved and cared for the people. They weren't the best because people paid high fees back then.

Germany also has a higher tax to gdp ratio than we do (22.7%) , a higher GDP, a higher tax rate, a higher tax uptake and a diversified, exporting economy that exports manufactured goods.

Nigeria has a low tax to gdp, a revenue dependent on oil, a population that is more than twice that of Germany, and a poorly diversified economy, and a much lower tax rate. Our gdp is 440 billion naira, compared to Germany's 4.3 trillion dollars. Percapita is even worse.

And while tuition is free in Germany., ye have to pay for living expenses, which can be costly.

I hate to sound like I am defending government, and I wish things were otherwise....but we cannot fund unis like we did in the good old days, because numbers have grown , while our income has not kept pace. Infact, the foreigners were already leaving in the 1980's self.

I effing understand the anger of many on this thread..I really wish we could make it that fees cost N1000 per student at all universities self,...but right now, if we want quality education, we have to pay for it.

Heck, until 1990, entering university was not that easy...you had to pass 0 levels, then enroll for two years of A levels, pass that, pass JAMB, and you were a student.

DeOTR:
Let's be honest with ourselves. you can't sustain a University system when students are paying 100k per session. You can't, unless you're subsidizing it. Our education system is heavily subsidized.
KWASU students were paying as high as 100k, some higher, as at 2017, and I can tell you for free that the total couldn't cover Lecturers salary in a year(you have to pay these people well if you intend to keep capable hands) . No mention of other non-academic staff or other expenses yet. Many capital projects are there too.
If you doubt it, just imagine how Covenant University would be if the students are paying 50k annually.

I think the FG should divert the resources going to tertiary institutions to primary and secondary educations. Universities and others should be allowed to run independently, but monitor their spendings. You'll see a huge difference in 10 years.

In the advanced world you talked about, most people who are in the universities are not paying out of pocket. Most can't afford it with their level of income. They take student loan.
The recent bill about student loan won't help in this regard. It's too lacking.
Universities should partner with Banks directly to fashion out a better package that suits their needs.
I took a student loan in millions of Naira for a one year training, and I'm glad I did.

In addition, those who have free education in the developed world, they pay for it at tax rates that if we brought it to Nigeria, we would scream

royalfly:
What standard are you talking about. You all talk but know nothing about what you talk. Nigerian students after studies here always leave the country to other so called better places and doing better. Cozy class room is not quality education. If you ask nicely I will tell u why we always do better. See, the quality is what the government wants to kill and exchange it for ac class rooms and painted walls. Most Government secondary schools still produce the best students, go and find out despite all the big money paying schools around. Please try and find out the true meaning of quality education

may God continue to bless you in all your way, with this explanation.

successnwa:
https://punchng.com/nans-condemns-tuition-hike-in-tertiary-institutions-threatens-protest/?amp

Tinubu should train special army to flog any student that misbehave.

nairalanda1:
Germany also has a higher tax to gdp ratio than we do (22.7%) , a higher GDP, a higher tax rate, a higher tax uptake and a diversified, exporting economy that exports manufactured goods.

Nigeria has a low tax to gdp, a revenue dependent on oil, a population that is more than twice that of Germany, and a poorly diversified economy, and a much lower tax rate. Our gdp is 440 billion naira, compared to Germany's 4.3 trillion dollars. Percapita is even worse.

And while tuition is free in Germany., ye have to pay for living expenses, which can be costly.

I hate to sound like I am defending government, and I wish things were otherwise....but we cannot fund unis like we did in the good old days, because numbers have grown , while our income has not kept pace. Infact, the foreigners were already leaving in the 1980's self.

I effing understand the anger of many on this thread..I really wish we could make it that fees cost N1000 per student at all universities self,...but right now, if we want quality education, we have to pay for it.

Heck, until 1990, entering university was not that easy...you had to pass 0 levels, then enroll for two years of A levels, pass that, pass JAMB, and you were a student.

You had a point but funding education by any reasonable government shouldn't be a rocket science, i maintain. They just deliberately allow the monies they should have spent on education go the wrong route. Have you forgotten the accountant general who single handedly stole over 100bn naira? He returned a paltry sum and was let alone. That's just one individual.

Do you know how many of his likes who were never caught? Maybe the guy was too greedy and was exposed that way. He would have been executed if he were a Chinese, likewise most of those in government today and we'd have had a progressive and prosperous nation. You and i were in this country when presidential candidates of leading political parties were dashing out 50kusd, 25kusd to buy delegates votes. It can't happen in any reasonable countries with serious-minded leaders. These are the people myopic nigerians are defending.

Do you know how much ASUU was asking for? There's this 75bn which the fed govt kept mum about, which is to be shared by the NA. Why didn't NA, the highest paid in the world say they'd give part of it to educatiin which most of them in the NA were beneficiaries of...or the federal government advised them to do so? At the state level, former governors receive huge amount of pensions, they just allocate money to themselves anyhow after the sitting governors must have stolen more than enough and left crumbs for education at state level. It's really very hard to defend these moronz in government.

Leadership is our problem, not whether there's enough funds to vote for education or not. They're just too corrupt. I always talk of India who rose from nothing to something, despite their huge population and lean natural resources...about becoming the world most populous nation. Our government lacks discipline. They pretend to be patriotic when they're not. If we keep defending them, they'd continue to rubbish the citizens and things would get worse. Where were the likes of UAE in those days of Pa Awo? Who even wanted to go abroad for whatever reason? We had almost all here. You may say our gdp was low back then and so also our population. Our earnings today aren't so lean as we had in those days as well. Population had also grown vis a vis, our GDP.

Tell them to cut government spending, stop corruption and vote what they stole on education and you'd see their wrath.

Give them money and it will over.

DeOTR:
Let's be honest with ourselves. you can't sustain a University system when students are paying 100k per session. You can't, unless you're subsidizing it. Our education system is heavily subsidized.
KWASU students were paying as high as 100k, some higher, as at 2017, and I can tell you for free that the total couldn't cover Lecturers salary in a year(you have to pay these people well if you intend to keep capable hands) . No mention of other non-academic staff or other expenses yet. Many capital projects are there too.
If you doubt it, just imagine how Covenant University would be if the students are paying 50k annually.

I think the FG should divert the resources going to tertiary institutions to primary and secondary educations. Universities and others should be allowed to run independently, but monitor their spendings. You'll see a huge difference in 10 years.

In the advanced world you talked about, most people who are in the universities are not paying out of pocket. Most can't afford it with their level of income. They take student loan.
The recent bill about student loan won't help in this regard. It's too lacking.
Universities should partner with Banks directly to fashion out a better package that suits their needs.
I took a student loan in millions of Naira for a one year training, and I'm glad I did.

How much is the minimum wage of the parents. What's the condition of the nation's economy

NLegendforte:
How much is the minimum wage of the parents. What's the condition of the nation's economy

I believe children of the poor, who are bright enough to pass University entrance exams, should have access to study, irrespective of whether they have a kobo or not. That's where a proper education funding comes into play.
I mentioned I went for a training. It was an all expense paid training. Tuition, feeding and monthly allowance. Something similar can be adopted.
It's only in Nigeria you'll people paying hospital bills, tuition fees, and buying cars mostly out of pocket.