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TheFacelessMan:
Nigeria...Africa MUST be fixed.

Caucasians and Asians sacrificed to fix their homes. Germany and Japan were in ruins after World War. Russia and China suffered famine to the extent people cannibalized each other. Where are all these countries today?

Yet Africans want to just "japa" and go benefit from the fruits of the labour of those guys. They aren't idiots.

If UK as small as it was in size practically colonized most of the world, just know they are smart enough to ALWAYS be 1trillion steps ahead.

Don't be surprised if these folks too are like people in diaspora who love to say "Nigeria can never be good". Welcome home

MODIFIED : Just read their denigrating comments about Edo, Nigeria. So if Germans still refuse their return.... what will they do? Die or Adapt?

Edo is full with criminals and not good for human living. the same Edo that they "Japad" from 9 years ago. You make alot of sense.

FreeStuffsNG:
According to the Spiegel, the city of 1.5 million people is notorious for being a center of human trafficking and forced prostitution and is considered to be one of the most dangerous places in Nigeria.


The family is still trying to fight for their return with help of Osa and a lawyer, but a final decision could take months. Until then, they have to live in fear of facing assaults, contagious diseases and, above all, uncertainty.

Chai. Benin done cast.

Calitoscassius:
Edo is full with criminals and not good for human living. the same Edo that they "Japad" from 9 years ago. You make alot of sense.

You sef see am.

Cromagnon:
they're illegal immigrants
They follow rules there, that's why you run there. If not there would be like here

True but most of them don't see it from this point of views.

You guys are welcomed!

Major7:
It's really unfair the way these whites communities treats our people and they come and go freely here in our African countries doing their trades and the likes. I blamed our failed leadership for these things else why the need to search for greener pastures if home is well taken care of.

They have laws, if u dont take ur own laws seriously, they do.. You can't build anything on nothing.. Get the right papers people wont hear. Germany is about having right papersand making urself useful.. I can bet this woman is not working but on social benefits even after how many years? If u come to Germany 5 years is enough for u to give back, by paying taxes..
Learn the language and be hardworking that all the want n be honest..

abba190:
good. so that these obese children will now be in a good shape

And you know that God in heaven is seeing what you just typed.

the asylum format is one of the worst gambles in immigration..

if your case is rejected.. are very close to a 95% chance of being deported..

If u want to japa, please use the legal and proper route..

why not use tourist visas to countries that allow u to convert legally after meeting some conditions,
instead of asylum..; even though both are risky..

but the advantage of a tourist visa (to a country that allows conversion) is that the govt, is not spending on ur head.. unlike asylum where the govt. must take care of u.. and when there is a budget cut, u re the first to go.

Just look at the ugly things calling my sweet Nigeria evil. They are not any bit appealing to the eyes of the black man talk more of a white man

Calitoscassius:
This is the message Europe is trying to send to africans trying to cross to Europe risking their lives, the message is, don't do it! You would be deported when you get here. Because what these people do is once they are lucky and gets into Europe they would tell the others look we are here in Europe and then the others starts risking their lives to come.

……Then a trickle becomes a flood!

Their actions may seem harsh but at the end of the day it IS there country and they have to send out a strong message that illegal immigration into their country will not be tolerated!

abba190:
good. so that these obese children will now be in a good shape

Fear God nau 🤠

That's why when i hear Nigerians saying please is it better to stay in nigeria or to relocate, I always ask this question in there any western country waiting for Nigerians to migrate apart from some doctors and qualified nurses go to UK and canada, if you sell your land go Germany 80 % say they fit deport you

BigDawsNet:
God of host... where the family won start from... and our dear country is not in good shape at the moment..

has it ever been in a good shape?

At least they are back home in their own homeland in the Nigeria borderline.
I have tried to enter the US and was detained at the border.
The so called white man can say he doesn't want you in his countries.
So what are you going to do then?
You just have to go back home when the time comes.
Entering a country illegally can create a lot of problems and stress.
For example:
The Nigerians trying to get to Italy through Libya. How many of these Nigerians in Libya have been murdered or enslaved?
Think about it. It is better to be a free man/woman/child than to be a slave in a foreign country.
A live dog is better than a dead lion. Ecclesiastes 9 verses 4-6

WildChild00:
The problem with many Binins and Nigerians asalyum seekers in Germany is that, they come in with all sort of lies to get admitted into the system, and some of them consitute nuisance into the economy, the Germans have really tried, they are one of the highest refugees accomodating country in Europe.

Our people misuse opportunities.. When u go somewhere, find out what the people need.. Germany is welfare state, that means taxes are important.. Infact it is the taxes we pay that are used for refugees.. They believe in the solidarity principle.. Then Nigerians come after being given German classes and trying to be integrated into society by this people so u can help to cater for others, you will refuse to work and say u want to be receiving benefits, that is coming from others that worked and are working.. Mbanu na.. No body na fool.. Me that i am paying taxes, is the deduction not paining me? You now sit at home and expect every month, money go come.. Germany has tried abeg..

Ykc2:
That's why when i hear Nigerians saying please is it better to stay in nigeria or to relocate, I always ask this question in there any western country waiting for Nigerians to migrate apart from some doctors and qualified nurses go to UK and canada, if you sell your land go Germany 80 % say they fit deport you

Mistake you people make.. Before u travel find out the policy of the country.. Germany want people but they that want useless people.. If u will come and not be useful, then better dont come.. Learn the language, do and Ausbildung, stay Strafefrei and work.. You are on ur way to Einbürgerung..

DodadaKoKigbe:
Why would African politicians who bow down to foreign gods (Jesus and allah) develop Africa? Their loyalty is to Rome/Jerusalem or Mecca/Media

Communisim is not native to China, and they have long since abandoned their native religions. Japan has a lot of Buddhists, yet Buddhisim is not native to the country. (Buddhism came from India ).

Yet they are developed because they have limited resources relative to their population, and as a result had to develop a industrial economy to provide enough cash to sustain that populaiton.

Christianity is not native to most of Europe, yet they are developed because of the same thing.

We are not developed because we have the wrong idea about development...we think that if we sell oil, and 'equitably share the money' we would somehow get developed, and we think we have enough resources to sell for that (I always hear about how Nigeria has lots of resources.).

Africa has a lot of resources, and these resources lead us to think that we can just sell them and earn money.

The same idea was there when most of us were worshipping pagan gods. (No, I am not badmouthing the ancient religions). We sold resources...and used the money to buy products. It was people like King Gezo that had the idea of industries (and even in North Africa, a ruler of Egypt had the same ideas in the early 19th century), but they were rare.

We are underdeveloped because we think we gat too many resources. The minute we realise the resources are finite...we would be sending men to space in the next few years (ok, I exaggerate).

buJu234:
the asylum format is one of the worst gambles in immigration..

if your case is rejected.. are very close to a 95% chance of being deported..

If u want to japa, please use the legal and proper route..

why not use tourist visas to countries that allow u to convert legally after meeting some conditions,
instead of asylum..; even though both are risky..

but the advantage of a tourist visa (to a country that allows conversion) is that the govt, is not spending on ur head.. unlike asylum where the govt. must take care of u.. and when there is a budget cut, u re the first to go.

The tourst visa route is also risky in many places (if you come in on a tourist visa and then start working, and you get caught, oops.).

Best legal route

1.Come in as a student, get a job on graduating, and then get a legal work visa.

2.Come in on a work visa...eg UK for doctors, nurses, etc.

SeriouslySense:
Ok, many Nigerians are still taking risk for example travelling through Libya.

This is the wrongest time to live in Turkey as a foreigner especially if you do not have valid documents.

Armstrong34:
……This deportation shall favour them and their family

Welcome to Agbado regime🤣😂😂😂😂

A new town hall.

Turkey economy or the lira has been going down too.

paramakina202:
This is the wrongest time to live in Turkey as a foreigner especially if you do not have valid documents.

Preparation and the legal means is much better than luck. I was watching a video of people passing through Libya and i recognized a lot of Nigerian voices. One young woman (very young) was even separated from her baby, I even wondered how she got that child, maybe along the Journey. They are gambling with their lives sha.

I would not waste my time in any country that does not want me. And some people even commit suicide. Love is the key for our society.

And we have to develop our minds and our environment for the good of everyone. We don't have to run everytime.

Lexusgs430:
I agree with the 'lucky'....... But I would rather thrive on certainty than luck.......

Primusinterpares:
What was their crime

Learn how to read. Reading doesn't kill.


They are asylum seekers. And they have refused their applications. The next step is deportation.

falcon01:
In the Voice if Uncle ruckus

"Monkeys have no place with the beautiful white man, all they do is eat, shit and destroy things, lord bless the white man"

Hahahah that guy is crazy...he strongly believed he was white and suffered pigmentation issues....
His hate for back is as crazy and as it is funny

SeriouslySense:
Turkey economy or the lira has been going down too.

Yeah but still far better than Nigeria economy.Lira is 26 per Dollar.

Europe is the most racist and hypocritical continent on earth. If not for Trump that briefly flirted with this idea of raiding immigrant's homes, in the US, nobody bothers you. Nobody will randomly stop you to search for your documents.

you are right, much more better.

paramakina202:
Yeah but still far better than Nigeria economy.Lira is 26 per Dollar.

Germany is in complete shamble right now... I have German friends who have left their country looking for jobs in more stable European countries, like Sweden and Switzerland.

Hear the story one told me as recent as last week.. we had a great walk Gustav III in Skeppsbron.
'Germany is heading to a kabum...' he explains that the left & right in Germany might fight a civil war if the politics isn't gotten right in one year time. He told me a lot of hardships ethnic Germans face, and immigrants don't understand that nothing is free in Germany or Europe, that if the society gives you stipends, it's not forever and you are expected to do everything to get a job and contribute to the social welfare. In other words quickly reject the free money! That's when the system counts you as residents, but lots of our people will collect free money and just relax! Praying!

Now the reason why they are getting hard on immigrants is an interview a migrant from Syria granted.
Let me explain what he told me.

Media: How are you?
Migrant: fine thank you.
Media: how do find Germany?
Migrant:. I like it here.
Media: More than Syria?
Migrant: No. (He still believe in his sharia & his god granting him free money, but one wonders why he's not headed to Mecca where the god live).
Media: would you want to look for work or something?
Media: No, I am not educated, and I am grateful for the help I receive.

The interview like the one granted to BBC by our brother went viral. The right used it for propaganda. Here's the results!

This is a man from Syria has three wives. Lives in three bedroom flat paid for by the local council and receive 1000€ monthly. And he doesn't want to work! He doesn't pay taxes which ordinary Germans pay and go to jail for if they fail to pay.

Guess what, ethnic Germans don't get these freebies. Now tell me if you can be this tolerant. Let's try and fix our mindset. Nothing is free. If you build your country, no one else will. It starts from making sure crooks are not in power!

Just like some stupid governors sponsoring people on pilgrimage on government money that is supposed to be used to fix & clean streets!

FreeStuffsNG:
Germany: Four Nigerian siblings deported despite being integrated into society

Published on : 2023/07/26

By Benjamin Bathke

After close to a decade of living in Germany, four siblings aged between 11 and 17 were deported to their home country Nigeria in May. Their return forms part of a trend of more and more minors being deported from Germany in recent months.

A tennis racquet, a pair of soccer cleats, a bible, a pencil case -- personal items like these are all that's left of the Ovbiagele family's life in Germany.

Before their belongings were placed into a storage unit in May, police forcibly entered the apartment of Godsand, Victor, Miracolo, Victoria and their mother Bose in southern Germany on the evening of May 15.

"The police officers came into my room at night and woke me up," 11-year-old Godsand is quoted as saying in a recent article published in German news magazine Spiegel.

"I was shaking. They said: 'You will be deported. Pack your things, but only what you can manage.' We weren't allowed to talk to mommy. We were afraid. I heard Victoria cry in her room."

The next morning, the family of five found itself on a chartered flight which took them back to Nigeria from Frankfurt airport. There were 35 other deportees on board, who had been living in Austria, Luxembourg, Sweden and Germany.

Also among the passengers in the coordinated group deportation flight were a number of alleged criminals, who were seen to be chained on their hands and feet.

Reluctant new beginnings in Nigeria

Different people have tried to provide support to the Ovbiagele family since their sudden deportation; one of them is Rex Osa, a native of Nigeria who has been living in Germany for 18 years.

The refugee aid worker was waiting for the four siblings and their mother in Lagos when their plane touched down there, who described their situation as "catastrophic."

The family have since moved into a small room in Benin City, Bose Ovbiagele's hometown, with the help of Osa. However, this is only a temporary solution.

According to the Spiegel, the city of 1.5 million people is notorious for being a center of human trafficking and forced prostitution and is considered to be one of the most dangerous places in Nigeria.

The children's mother agrees with that assessment: she says she had left for Europe seeing no future for her children in Nigeria. She has been raising them on her own since her first husband died and since she separated from the second one.

Despite these many challenges in life, the siblings are now trying to start again in an unfamiliar place 4,600 kilometers away.

"I don't know if I can find friends here," 14-year-old Miracolo explains. "I don't feel safe here. There are people stealing and kidnapping people; they have guns, too."

Uncertainty for the future
For almost nine years, the family called Kempten their home -- a city located in the southern state of Bavaria, about 100 kilometers away from Munich.

The siblings attended elementary school and middle school in the town of 70,000 people, they completed internships, attended church, played in the local soccer club, and learned how to ride a bike.

"Before Germany, I cannot remember anything. We were still young. I don't know any other country," 17-year-old Victor told the Spiegel.

"I was about to get my diploma," Victor's twin sister Victoria said. "I was already in tenth grade and had completed my oral examinations. I lived in Germany for almost nine years. Was this all in vain?"

The family is still trying to fight for their return with help of Osa and a lawyer, but a final decision could take months. Until then, they have to live in fear of facing assaults, contagious diseases and, above all, uncertainty.

Little hope for a reversal of fortunes
Back in Kempten, the siblings' friends are also fighting for their return. In June, some 60 people protested in the city on their behalf with banners, saying 'Bring the Ovbiagele family back!'

However, the overall protection rate for Nigerians in Germany is low: the Ovbiagele's asylum applications were rejected all the way back in 2016 already.

As a result, for years, the family-of-five were among the around 300,000 people in Germany whose status is referred to as 'ausreisepflichtig' -- or legally obliged to leave the country.

"Receiving negative letters from the authorities breaks down your psyche," Victoria told the Spiegel.

"Deportation was always a threat we fought over a lot. It was too much for my mother."

Deportations on the rise

According to the Spiegel, the Bavarian Refugee Council had criticized the state's increasingly volatile deportation policy back in February already, highlighting that forced returns from Bavaria now appear to target families with children.

"The Interior Ministry and the foreigners' offices have become unscrupulous. The cases, in which families are getting deported into hopeless situations, are on the rise," the council stated at the time.

Almost 13,000 people were deported from Germany last year, according to Spiegel. Among them were 2,196 minors, including fully integrated school children, many of whom have little or no connection to their parents' home countries.

In many instances, their language skills in German are superior to their abilities to speak their parents' mother tongues.

Germany's need for immigration vs. reality
Germany's present deportation policy, however, is in stark contrast to the fact that the country needs immigrants rather urgently: At the end of June, the EU member state passed its new skilled labor migration law to fill the gap of an estimated 400,000 skilled workers.

Economists say, however, that even this target falls short, claiming that Germany needs a net influx of nearly 1.5 million people -- per year.

But not everyone in Germany is in favor of welcoming more foreigners: A survey from May found that one in two Germans are scared of more refugees coming to Germany. Regardless, the government has pledged to invest more into attracting workers from abroad.

This new policy, however, is of little use to the Ovbiagele family; after living in the country for a total of for nine years, Germany eventually threw them out -- shortly before they would finally become ready and able to start giving back.

https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/50642/germany-four-nigerian-siblings-deported-despite-being-integrated-into-society

Was there staying in Germany Legit?

Whatever you do and wherever you find yourself always pursue a legitimate course.

God will be with them.

My tax in Europe is 25%. You think that's funny? No it's not!

LOVEALAIGBO:
……Then a trickle becomes a flood!

Their actions may seem harsh but at the end of the day it IS there country and they have to send out a strong message that illegal immigration into their country will not be tolerated!

correct!