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Their asylum application was rejected over 7 years ago...it was only a matter of time.

The only country that you can be an illegal immigrant and succeed is America... it's not always so in other countries especially Europe

Where is abike dabiri on this one for goodness sake

Why can't Africans fix Africa

falcon01:
In the Voice if Uncle ruckus

"Monkeys have no place with the beautiful white man, all they do is eat, shit and destroy things, lord bless the white man"

You are such a pitiable human being. Mr monkey.

Cromagnon:
you think German citizens will run away from their land because if politician or it is the politician that will ruin away
That is the difference

The difference is that they are not blacks.
Blacks are known all over the world to be docile. That's why our ancestors were enslaved for over a millennium by the Arabs and for over four centuries by the Europeans.

TheFacelessMan:
Nigeria...Africa MUST be fixed.

Caucasians and Asians sacrificed to fix their homes. Germany and Japan were in ruins after World War. Russia and China suffered famine to the extent people cannibalized each other. Where are all these countries today?

Yet Africans want to just "japa" and go benefit from the fruits of the labour of those guys. They aren't idiots.

If UK as small as it was in size practically colonized most of the world, just know they are smart enough to ALWAYS be 1trillion steps ahead.

Don't be surprised if these folks too are like people in diaspora who love to say "Nigeria can never be good". Welcome home

MODIFIED : Just read their denigrating comments about Edo, Nigeria. So if Germans still refuse their return.... what will they do? Die or Adapt?

What have you done to improve Nigeria?

DropsMic:
The difference is that they are not blacks.
Blacks are known all over the world to be docile. That's why our ancestors were enslaved for over a millennium by the Arabs and for over four centuries by the Europeans.

Every race has been enslaved at one point in time or another. Don't be dumb.

Emmaomotob:
Every race has been enslaved at one point in time or another. Don't be dumb.

Must be nice living in fool’s paradise. Ciao.

Emmaomotob:
You are such a pitiable human being. Mr monkey.

ok baboon

hamzeiy:
Hahahah that guy is crazy...he strongly believed he was white and suffered pigmentation issues....
His hate for back is as crazy and as it is funny

Hehas revitiligo🤣

The Germans have no fault of theirs. I still blame African leaders. The moment our leaders and dumb foreign affairs ministers refuses to talk about issue like this with immediate retaliatory measures, we will continue to be at the mercy of these arrogant guys. Depot our children , we will deport their parent without their children. Rubbish

falcon01:
In the Voice if Uncle ruckus

"Monkeys have no place with the beautiful white man, all they do is eat, shit and destroy things, lord bless the white man"

Oyinbo people are not God, neither are they better than you! Stop devaluing your worth.

You're the type when you finally reach Europe, you'll swear your child will never marry Oyinbo.

They have been declined for 7 years and this did not sound an alarm to her to start making plans?

What stops the woman from sending €200 monthly into her dorm account in Nigeriaa as a contingency plan in the event youre forcefully removed? Instead, you're seeking pity.

Had she saved up, she'd probably have like €15,000 saved up. This is about N13,000,000 today.

She can set up a business centre in a strategic location with like 7m.

I live in Germany and I have vast experience with their legal and immigration law.

PLEASE DONT BLAME THE GERMAN GOVERNMENT.

ASK YOURSELF THE FOLLOWING QUESTION:

1)Where is the father of the children? (80% chances that the fathers are still in Europe). Alot of Nigerian women prefer single mother lifestyle here, to get single mother benefit (alleinerziehende Mütter geld ) thats why you would see one woman, 4 kids from different father....after having the number of kids they want, they call POLICE on the man and chase him out...even if the man is Jesus christ performing his fatherly role, they would still chase him out.....for them...children is meal ticket to get money from government. In fact some women would pack their kids from ITALY and to Germany just to get children benefit(kindergeld) and single mother money without or with the fathers consent........IT IS ALL ABOUT FREE MONEY FOR THEM.....Go to ticktock or ask people in Europe.

2)The woman, has she ever worked or pay tax in Germany?
(75% of Nigerian single mothers in Germany have never worked, they only milked the system). Go to ticktok and see how lousy and dramatic Nigerian women are...they talk and proud about being single mothers and cashing out. German government pays around 200 euros on each child and pay their mothers averagely 650 euros....so this woman is collecting 800+650=1450 euro monthly...do the maths..averagely 15,000 euros yearly...if you add accommodation and insurance and education cost, it would be upto 30k euros yearly....multiply by 10 years...around 300k euros...........AND SHE HAS NEVER PAID 1KOBO as TAX into the system (BLAME THE MOTHER, NOT GERMAN GOVERNMENT).

3) Are there legal remedy for long asylum seekers in Germany? Many....I dont support illegal migration, but there is several legal ways to regularize your stay in Germany.....During those process, YOU CAN NEVER BE DEPORTED..for example during your ausbildung, or university study(https://dejure.org/gesetze/AufenthG/25b.html) and (https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__19d.html) etc....the problem is you need to work to get a stay in Germany.....so you can pay tax or your husband pay it....NO COUNTRY WANT LIABILITY IMMIGRANT.


The mother is the causes of the problem, I only pitied those innocent children.

Emmaomotob:
What have you done to improve Nigeria?

Screwing your ugly ma

This is so pathetic. I can feel it in my bones. So so so very sad.

falcon01:
In the Voice if Uncle ruckus

"Monkeys have no place with the beautiful white man, all they do is eat, shit and destroy things, lord bless the white man"

see kettle

I am thinking, maybe there is an article in ECHR that can help them.

But even if there is such, it would be hard now that they are outside Germany, not inside, and not just outside Germany, but in their country of citizenship.

It is reasonable to assume that the family has exhausted all legal options, hence, after all, their asylum application have been rejected over six years ago.

If at least one of the children is born in Germany, and has some kind of medical condition that the Nigerian healthcare system can't handle, then they may have a basis to remain in Germany, based on humanitarian grounds.

Or if any of the children are homos, then they can stay back under article 14 of the ECHR, which guarantees the right to the prohibition of discrimination.

Ultimately, laws are one thing, but the interpretation and application of the law is another thing. The judge may choose not to make the law work for them, and there is nothing they can do.

EU law seems very fair and upright when read, but in the application, it's subjective to the judge's opinion. Also, judges enjoy something known as ¨Judicial immunity¨.

They may willfully judge your case wrongly, and intentionally make sure your cases never see justice, and there is nothing you can do. Judges are not punished for their wrong judgment. This woman's case will be very hard in my assessment.

Judging from how they tracked her in the middle of the night and bundle her and her children home, the immigration must have prepared a strong legal basis to justify their actions.

Roger3D:
Lots of Africans are being deported from Germany on a monthly basis, I even watched a YouTube video where some deportees broke the window of the bus transporting them to the airport for deportation. The fact is that it's very difficult to live in Germany without being legit. I wish the family all the best of luck

I see it every time I pass through Frankfurt airport.

Is it not better to leave of your own accord that be forced from a place that does not want you?

DropsMic:
The difference is that they are not blacks.
Blacks are known all over the world to be docile. That's why our ancestors were enslaved for over a millennium by the Arabs and for over four centuries by the Europeans.

Enslaved by other Africans. Then sold by useless leaders to foreigners. Scarcely any different to what is happening now where Africans are being pushed towards migration because of foolish African leaders.

At some point you have to realise that your elders hate you.

Lots of Nigerians who leave the country to seek asylum do not even bother do proper homework to understand the rules of assylum before leaving the country.

As a professional, I always tell people that making a refugee claim should always be your last option.

All the western countries are adherent to the 1951 Geneva convention for refugees and most countries have codified the rules of the convention into local lawd like Canada, US and most western european countries for example.

According to the Geneva convention rules, in order to make a successful refugee claim, you need to demonstrate that your fear of persecutions.

You also need to demonstrate that your fear is connected to the five convention grounds namely:

Race, Religion, Nationality, Membership in a particular social group and Political opinion.

If your fear of persecution is not tied to one of the above grounds, your claim is going to fail.

You will need to prove a lot of things including "subjective" and "objective" fear of persecution.

You will need to prove lack of state protection on ground to shield you from persecution in your country of origin.

You will need to prove there are no inflight alternatives in your country to avoid persecutions before fleeing .

Remeber before you make up your bogus stories and shed crocodile tears at the refugee courts, every western country have a country documentation package about all countries and have up to date information.

Do not leave your country to go file an assylum without speaking to a professional to get you prepared.

You can reach out if you have any question before going to file a refugee claim and i will try my best to help.

TheFacelessMan:
Screwing your ugly ma

May your life never be desirable and may you live the rest of your life like a wanderer. May your going out and coming in be filled with pain and toil and may the Almighty blot your memory from the book of life. May you never find rest in life and die a painful death.

Emmaomotob:
Emmaomotob to his useless homosexual father and his spermbank wh0re mother:

May your life never be desirable and may you live the rest of your life like a wanderer. May your going out and coming in be filled with pain and toil and may the Almighty blot your memory from the book of life. May you never find rest in life and die a painful death.

I am happy I made you cry. Next time, you will use your brain before rushing to comment brainlessly. Some of us are here to give you free hometraining your parents neglected to give.

FreeStuffsNG:
Germany: Four Nigerian siblings deported despite being integrated into society

Published on : 2023/07/26

By Benjamin Bathke

After close to a decade of living in Germany, four siblings aged between 11 and 17 were deported to their home country Nigeria in May. Their return forms part of a trend of more and more minors being deported from Germany in recent months.

A tennis racquet, a pair of soccer cleats, a bible, a pencil case -- personal items like these are all that's left of the Ovbiagele family's life in Germany.

Before their belongings were placed into a storage unit in May, police forcibly entered the apartment of Godsand, Victor, Miracolo, Victoria and their mother Bose in southern Germany on the evening of May 15.

"The police officers came into my room at night and woke me up," 11-year-old Godsand is quoted as saying in a recent article published in German news magazine Spiegel.

"I was shaking. They said: 'You will be deported. Pack your things, but only what you can manage.' We weren't allowed to talk to mommy. We were afraid. I heard Victoria cry in her room."

The next morning, the family of five found itself on a chartered flight which took them back to Nigeria from Frankfurt airport. There were 35 other deportees on board, who had been living in Austria, Luxembourg, Sweden and Germany.

Also among the passengers in the coordinated group deportation flight were a number of alleged criminals, who were seen to be chained on their hands and feet.

Reluctant new beginnings in Nigeria

Different people have tried to provide support to the Ovbiagele family since their sudden deportation; one of them is Rex Osa, a native of Nigeria who has been living in Germany for 18 years.

The refugee aid worker was waiting for the four siblings and their mother in Lagos when their plane touched down there, who described their situation as "catastrophic."

The family have since moved into a small room in Benin City, Bose Ovbiagele's hometown, with the help of Osa. However, this is only a temporary solution.

According to the Spiegel, the city of 1.5 million people is notorious for being a center of human trafficking and forced prostitution and is considered to be one of the most dangerous places in Nigeria.

The children's mother agrees with that assessment: she says she had left for Europe seeing no future for her children in Nigeria. She has been raising them on her own since her first husband died and since she separated from the second one.

Despite these many challenges in life, the siblings are now trying to start again in an unfamiliar place 4,600 kilometers away.

"I don't know if I can find friends here," 14-year-old Miracolo explains. "I don't feel safe here. There are people stealing and kidnapping people; they have guns, too."

Uncertainty for the future
For almost nine years, the family called Kempten their home -- a city located in the southern state of Bavaria, about 100 kilometers away from Munich.

The siblings attended elementary school and middle school in the town of 70,000 people, they completed internships, attended church, played in the local soccer club, and learned how to ride a bike.

"Before Germany, I cannot remember anything. We were still young. I don't know any other country," 17-year-old Victor told the Spiegel.

"I was about to get my diploma," Victor's twin sister Victoria said. "I was already in tenth grade and had completed my oral examinations. I lived in Germany for almost nine years. Was this all in vain?"

The family is still trying to fight for their return with help of Osa and a lawyer, but a final decision could take months. Until then, they have to live in fear of facing assaults, contagious diseases and, above all, uncertainty.

Little hope for a reversal of fortunes
Back in Kempten, the siblings' friends are also fighting for their return. In June, some 60 people protested in the city on their behalf with banners, saying 'Bring the Ovbiagele family back!'

However, the overall protection rate for Nigerians in Germany is low: the Ovbiagele's asylum applications were rejected all the way back in 2016 already.

As a result, for years, the family-of-five were among the around 300,000 people in Germany whose status is referred to as 'ausreisepflichtig' -- or legally obliged to leave the country.

"Receiving negative letters from the authorities breaks down your psyche," Victoria told the Spiegel.

"Deportation was always a threat we fought over a lot. It was too much for my mother."

Deportations on the rise

According to the Spiegel, the Bavarian Refugee Council had criticized the state's increasingly volatile deportation policy back in February already, highlighting that forced returns from Bavaria now appear to target families with children.

"The Interior Ministry and the foreigners' offices have become unscrupulous. The cases, in which families are getting deported into hopeless situations, are on the rise," the council stated at the time.

Almost 13,000 people were deported from Germany last year, according to Spiegel. Among them were 2,196 minors, including fully integrated school children, many of whom have little or no connection to their parents' home countries.

In many instances, their language skills in German are superior to their abilities to speak their parents' mother tongues.

Germany's need for immigration vs. reality
Germany's present deportation policy, however, is in stark contrast to the fact that the country needs immigrants rather urgently: At the end of June, the EU member state passed its new skilled labor migration law to fill the gap of an estimated 400,000 skilled workers.

Economists say, however, that even this target falls short, claiming that Germany needs a net influx of nearly 1.5 million people -- per year.

But not everyone in Germany is in favor of welcoming more foreigners: A survey from May found that one in two Germans are scared of more refugees coming to Germany. Regardless, the government has pledged to invest more into attracting workers from abroad.

This new policy, however, is of little use to the Ovbiagele family; after living in the country for a total of for nine years, Germany eventually threw them out -- shortly before they would finally become ready and able to start giving back.

https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/50642/germany-four-nigerian-siblings-deported-despite-being-integrated-into-society

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FreeStuffsNG:
Germany: Four Nigerian siblings deported despite being integrated into society

Published on : 2023/07/26

By Benjamin Bathke

After close to a decade of living in Germany, four siblings aged between 11 and 17 were deported to their home country Nigeria in May. Their return forms part of a trend of more and more minors being deported from Germany in recent months.

A tennis racquet, a pair of soccer cleats, a bible, a pencil case -- personal items like these are all that's left of the Ovbiagele family's life in Germany.

Before their belongings were placed into a storage unit in May, police forcibly entered the apartment of Godsand, Victor, Miracolo, Victoria and their mother Bose in southern Germany on the evening of May 15.

"The police officers came into my room at night and woke me up," 11-year-old Godsand is quoted as saying in a recent article published in German news magazine Spiegel.

"I was shaking. They said: 'You will be deported. Pack your things, but only what you can manage.' We weren't allowed to talk to mommy. We were afraid. I heard Victoria cry in her room."

The next morning, the family of five found itself on a chartered flight which took them back to Nigeria from Frankfurt airport. There were 35 other deportees on board, who had been living in Austria, Luxembourg, Sweden and Germany.

Also among the passengers in the coordinated group deportation flight were a number of alleged criminals, who were seen to be chained on their hands and feet.

Reluctant new beginnings in Nigeria

Different people have tried to provide support to the Ovbiagele family since their sudden deportation; one of them is Rex Osa, a native of Nigeria who has been living in Germany for 18 years.

The refugee aid worker was waiting for the four siblings and their mother in Lagos when their plane touched down there, who described their situation as "catastrophic."

The family have since moved into a small room in Benin City, Bose Ovbiagele's hometown, with the help of Osa. However, this is only a temporary solution.

According to the Spiegel, the city of 1.5 million people is notorious for being a center of human trafficking and forced prostitution and is considered to be one of the most dangerous places in Nigeria.

The children's mother agrees with that assessment: she says she had left for Europe seeing no future for her children in Nigeria. She has been raising them on her own since her first husband died and since she separated from the second one.

Despite these many challenges in life, the siblings are now trying to start again in an unfamiliar place 4,600 kilometers away.

"I don't know if I can find friends here," 14-year-old Miracolo explains. "I don't feel safe here. There are people stealing and kidnapping people; they have guns, too."

Uncertainty for the future
For almost nine years, the family called Kempten their home -- a city located in the southern state of Bavaria, about 100 kilometers away from Munich.

The siblings attended elementary school and middle school in the town of 70,000 people, they completed internships, attended church, played in the local soccer club, and learned how to ride a bike.

"Before Germany, I cannot remember anything. We were still young. I don't know any other country," 17-year-old Victor told the Spiegel.

"I was about to get my diploma," Victor's twin sister Victoria said. "I was already in tenth grade and had completed my oral examinations. I lived in Germany for almost nine years. Was this all in vain?"

The family is still trying to fight for their return with help of Osa and a lawyer, but a final decision could take months. Until then, they have to live in fear of facing assaults, contagious diseases and, above all, uncertainty.

Little hope for a reversal of fortunes
Back in Kempten, the siblings' friends are also fighting for their return. In June, some 60 people protested in the city on their behalf with banners, saying 'Bring the Ovbiagele family back!'

However, the overall protection rate for Nigerians in Germany is low: the Ovbiagele's asylum applications were rejected all the way back in 2016 already.

As a result, for years, the family-of-five were among the around 300,000 people in Germany whose status is referred to as 'ausreisepflichtig' -- or legally obliged to leave the country.

"Receiving negative letters from the authorities breaks down your psyche," Victoria told the Spiegel.

"Deportation was always a threat we fought over a lot. It was too much for my mother."

Deportations on the rise

According to the Spiegel, the Bavarian Refugee Council had criticized the state's increasingly volatile deportation policy back in February already, highlighting that forced returns from Bavaria now appear to target families with children.

"The Interior Ministry and the foreigners' offices have become unscrupulous. The cases, in which families are getting deported into hopeless situations, are on the rise," the council stated at the time.

Almost 13,000 people were deported from Germany last year, according to Spiegel. Among them were 2,196 minors, including fully integrated school children, many of whom have little or no connection to their parents' home countries.

In many instances, their language skills in German are superior to their abilities to speak their parents' mother tongues.

Germany's need for immigration vs. reality
Germany's present deportation policy, however, is in stark contrast to the fact that the country needs immigrants rather urgently: At the end of June, the EU member state passed its new skilled labor migration law to fill the gap of an estimated 400,000 skilled workers.

Economists say, however, that even this target falls short, claiming that Germany needs a net influx of nearly 1.5 million people -- per year.

But not everyone in Germany is in favor of welcoming more foreigners: A survey from May found that one in two Germans are scared of more refugees coming to Germany. Regardless, the government has pledged to invest more into attracting workers from abroad.

This new policy, however, is of little use to the Ovbiagele family; after living in the country for a total of for nine years, Germany eventually threw them out -- shortly before they would finally become ready and able to start giving back.

https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/50642/germany-four-nigerian-siblings-deported-despite-being-integrated-into-society

Nigerians when deported always telling unpalatable stories about their country just to gain empathy. The same, check their social media status, they are probably one of those cursing the country day and night, thinking they are out for good. As long as you are not an indigene, even as a citizen, it can be revoked someday, everything you enjoy in another rman's land is subject to policy, and could be reversed, especially as Africans, unless you are highly indispensable.

Someone said they are welcome to shege....really? Not everyone are suffering in Nigeria, a good number of people are living legitimately, especially those that have invested in themselves such that have become so needed in their field of chosen career. I know few that change job like wrapper, as long as they feel less respected, and another rjob is waiting. many lack the requisite to invest in themselves, they would rather invest in alcohol and women, rather than in skills and certification.

The same Nigeria that cars are shipped in daily even with the rise of prices, houses are built daily etc. If truly they have utilised the opportunities in the abroad to broaden their scope, they should be fine back home. The truth is, many are afraid when deported because they lived like they are in final destination, as such didn't save for the raining days ahead.

A friend of mine was deported from Qatar recently, dude has invested a lot in Nigeria that he was not even afraid of coming back home. I know few who, after making a good fortune from hard work, decided it's over stressing and saying yes sir. All you need is something going to keep daily life and soul together....Few investment here and there to feed, and fill daily needs with small savings...if you are not the high-end type who wants to show off. Good house, nice car (2 for the whole family), good schools for your kids, vacation once in a while for the family and few businesses bringing in daily income, you will be fine. Naija is not that bad, most people are just too covetous, extravagant, wants to live like Adenuga, Davido lifestyle etc.

nairalanda1:
The tourst visa route is also risky in many places (if you come in on a tourist visa and then start working, and you get caught, oops.).

Best legal route

1.Come in as a student, get a job on graduating, and then get a legal work visa.

2.Come in on a work visa...eg UK for doctors, nurses, etc.

i said.. tourist visa to countries that allow conversion after meeting some conditions, countries Canada allowed that some time ago after COVID, others have a work-finding visa for 3-6mths etc,,

conditions like.. if u get married to their citizen, attend school, get a job etc

note: not everyone can qualify as a student and UK is not the only country to Japa to

Not only do I hate Nigeria, the problem is. Real Nigerians that can work are refused positions too.

It’s annoying.

Imagine this.
Why Di we even have Germans in nigeria ??

One country with poorest trade relationships.


We really need to rise up and return this people to their care homes.

Youth must arise.

This is why uk is better than Germany cos once you spend 7 years in uk as a minor legal or illegal you can never be deported and also entitled to permanent residence

I think this could be the reason why her application was rejected. A friend of mine told me how someone took two children, and also belle enter Germany and she has been on benefit for several months now. We Nigerians sabi abuse priviledge no be small.

pquaver:
Our people misuse opportunities.. When u go somewhere, find out what the people need.. Germany is welfare state, that means taxes are important.. Infact it is the taxes we pay that are used for refugees.. They believe in the solidarity principle.. Then Nigerians come after being given German classes and trying to be integrated into society by this people so u can help to cater for others, you will refuse to work and say u want to be receiving benefits, that is coming from others that worked and are working.. Mbanu na.. No body na fool.. Me that i am paying taxes, is the deduction not paining me? You now sit at home and expect every month, money go come.. Germany has tried abeg..