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| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 12:44pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Yes we trashed it Who wrote this forgery? By UNKNOWN 😂😂 You are the one suffering from Dementia.
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| Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 12:45pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Maynman:🥱🥱🥱 U can continue to pretend lack of understanding. That's your business. Even your scholars admit it's true.
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| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 12:46pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Who is the doing the forgery, who will it benefit? You can continue to be living in denial 😂
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| Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 12:47pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Maynman:Confused one, I didn't post martyrdom of Polycarp. |
| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 12:48pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Lost one, The epistle of polycarp is about? You are just desperate to defend your jewish savior. Everything you know about “apostolic father” is from iraeneus.
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| Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 1:06pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Maynman:What are u trying to hide...
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| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 1:09pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:explain what i hide 😂 |
| Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 1:17pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Maynman:The book was confirmed to have been written by Polycarp. |
| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 1:19pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Polycarp wrote about his own death, and he died exactly as he wrote it 😂 “ but it has been attributed to members of the group of early Christian theologians known as the Church Fathers.” Sounds like the work of iraeneus 🤣
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| Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 1:20pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
I think this topic is done and dusted. Except anyone brings new contrary evidence, I would not be replying any more post. U can go through the thread, all the answers are in it. Mods, pls change the topic of the thread to historical evidence of 1st century AD Christianity. Pls let people be enlightened. Too much ignorant people claiming atheist. |
| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 1:22pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
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| Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 1:27pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Maynman:U are so daft...so.so daft. Epistle of Polycarp to Philippians is a different book to martyrdom of Polycarp. Gosh. |
| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 1:28pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:You are the daft one. The epistle of polycarp due to the editing was split into 2 categories. The cover letter and the crises letter.
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| Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 4:46pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Maynman:Ogbeni, martyrdom of Polycarp is a separate book entirely on its own. It has nothing to do with epistle of Polycarp. Epistle of Polycarp to Philippians letter was split into 2 categories based on Polycarp reference to Ignatius.
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| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 4:50pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Alaye are you now using chatgpt now? The epistle of polycarp is one of the books that his sources comes from iraneus. They were written at different time by different authors.
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| Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 4:53pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Maynman:Where did it say different authors or u confabulating. U can argue with artificial intelligence if u not happy with his outcome. |
| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 4:55pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Try to comprehend, I know it’s hard. You can argue with scholars if you not happy with the outcome. Forgery, interpolation, editing, plagiarism for a saviour 😂😂
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| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 4:56pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Yahweh is yah also known as khonsu. Hosea 13:4. The original god in the tanakh is El, where you get your israEl. Yahweh is a fraud, the romans built on that fraud.
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| Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 5:18pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Maynman:Which 2 letters are u on about. Which 2 letters are the scholars referring to here |
| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 5:27pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Comprehension is hard, keep reading it till you see the 2 letters Did the apostolic fathers predates the New Testament. How come the New Testament mentions chrestian? Which century were they written?
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| Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 5:30pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Maynman:Mention the 2 letters here. I already gave evidence but still babbling about 2 letters. Mention the 2 letters and chop embarrassment. |
| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 5:33pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Which evidence? 😂😂 from ireaneus ?? Comprehension is hard, keep reading it till you see the 2 letters Did the apostolic fathers predates the New Testament. How come the New Testament mentions chrestian? Which century were they written?
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| Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 5:52pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Maynman:Is this not where u quoting from. Is this not the 2 letters u manipulating up and down. Now mention the 2 letters. If u confident u won't chop disgrace, mention the 2 letters. Otondo.
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| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 7:04pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Comprehension and illiteracy is your problem. Which letter is harrison ARGUING? All your sources for your savior are always in arguments of forgery and interpolation. Dullard!
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| Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 7:43pm On Aug 04, 2023*. Modified: 9:54pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Maynman:There's only one text here- The epistle of Polycarp to the philipians. The 2 letters are the same text. The crisis letter is chapter 1 to 12 of the letter and the covet letter is chapter 13 to 14 of the same letter. Both were written by Polycarp. The theory u trying to push is that the second letter is the martyr of Polycarp text which has been debunked.
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| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 7:46pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Forgery, interpolation, editing, plagiarism for a saviour. Who will it benefit?
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| Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 9:57pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
Maynman:So now that we know that Polycarp actually wrote a letter to the church in philipians. Tell me was polycarp a Christian or chrestian in the 1st century. Choose anyone that fits your fancy. Was he a follower of Jesus Christ or Ieosus christus.
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| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 10:02pm On Aug 04, 2023*. Modified: 10:40pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:He wrote the forgery and an aunthetic one via iraeneus. Forgery, interpolation, editing, plagiarism for a saviour. Who will it benefit? Polycarp letters forgery, ignatius letters forgery 😂 Why did all early manuscripts say, “Chrestian”?
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| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 10:45pm On Aug 04, 2023 |
SIRTee15:We start to see how this legend was growing in Irenaeus’s own hands when elsewhere Irenaeus describes Papias as “the hearer of John and a companion of Polycarp” (in Against Heresies 5.33.4). Not Polycarp was the hearer of John. Moreover, we know from Eusebius (History of the Church 3.39) that the “John” Papias meant was not John the Apostle, but a much later John, John the Elder (Ibid. 4-6). Papias was older than Polycarp. Yet Papias himself never says he met any Apostles—John or otherwise—but only rummaged the earth for rumors others were telling about what the apostles of old had said. As with Polycarp, the notion that Papias met any apostles was a later legend claimed by others, but clearly contradicted in quotations of Papias himself. And if Papias was an older companion of Polycarp, and Papias never met any Apostles, it’s fair to say Polycarp didn’t either. To the contrary, by confusing which John Papias claimed to have tutored under, the legend grew that Papias had studied under John the Disciple, and as Papias was a companion of Polycarp, this became “Polycarp studied under John the Disciple.” Just another telephone game.
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| Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 1:26am On Aug 05, 2023 |
Maynman:Continue posting junks from conspiracy theory deadbeats like yourself. Here is your answer.
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| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 1:37am On Aug 05, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Where is Al getting information from? You must be a brainwashed fool. Continue basing your life on a Roman Parody. Everything is forgery!
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| Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 1:40am On Aug 05, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Iraneus boy. The books you are basing your life on were written by UNKNOWN PEOPLE. ![]() Nor do any of the letters we have addressed to Polycarp mention it. There’s also no evidence any Apostle was actually alive when Polycarp was even a schoolboy—which would have been the late 70s A.D. at the earliest, when the Apostles would have been in their late 60s or even 80s, if any were even alive at all, and we have no evidence any were. Average lifespan for an adult at that time was 48 (On the Historicity of Jesus, Element 22, Ch. 4). Not even the Martyrdom of Polycarp, which is basically a fawning eulogy of him, makes any mention of his ever knowing any Apostles or tutoring under John.
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