"Soul is immortal. It has no beginning nor ending."
—Harold Klemp

How do you let the Spirit of God into your life? The simplest and best way is to sing HU, the age-old song of love for God.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakening Soul

benodic:
How do you let the Spirit of God into your life? The simplest and best way is to sing HU, the age-old song of love for God.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakening Soul

Hello, saw your replies to a guy here seeking to trade his soul for wealth and power. It shows you believe in manifestation. How do you think it works, there are two school of thought on this.

1. There is a power in existence, when you think, the thought make an impression on this power, this power then influence circumstances, situation, people and things to bring about the manifestation of the thought impressed on it.

2. Thought itself is a vibration or thing, when you think, the thought radiates out from you and influence circumstances, situation, people and things to bring about it visible manifestation.

So in the first instance, the role of thought is to make an impression on this power which then in turn do the work.
While in tho second instance, thought itself radiates out and do the work.

What do you think the process is?

@ justlove91

Hello, saw your replies to a guy here seeking to trade his soul for wealth and power. It shows you believe in manifestation. How do you think it works, there are two school of thought on this.

1. There is a power in existence, when you think, the thought make an impression on this power, this power then influence circumstances, situation, people and things to bring about the manifestation of the thought impressed on it.

2. Thought itself is a vibration or thing, when you think, the thought radiates out from you and influence circumstances, situation, people and things to bring about it visible manifestation.

So in the first instance, the role of thought is to make an impression on this power which then in turn do the work.
While in tho second instance, thought itself radiates out and do the work.

What do you think the process is?

The process I know is the first one. Your thought make impression in Divine Spirit which takes over and brings to manifestation your creation.
it is important to surrender the process to Divine Spirit with unwavering faith that what you asked for has been granted.

benodic:

@ justlove91



The process I know is the first one. Your thought make impression in Divine Spirit which takes over and brings to manifestation your creation.
it is important to surrender the process to Divine Spirit with unwavering faith that what you asked for has been granted.

If this is the case then

1. How does black magic works (eg. thinking ill of others and having it come to pass). It will only mean that divine spirit is the one that carried out the evil act due to the evil thought impressed upon it.

2. If 10 or more people wants a thing that can only be given to one person (eg. A prize as a winner), it will seem the divine spirit will try to give a prize to each one but still work against each one since only one person can win.

3. How does it explain thought forms which can be seen by some clairvoyants.

But if it was thought vibration itself doing the work, this issue will not arise.

@ justlove91

If this is the case then

1. How does black magic works (eg. thinking ill of others and having it come to pass). It will only mean that divine spirit is the one that carried out the evil act due to the evil thought impressed upon it.

2. If 10 or more people wants a thing that can only be given to one person (eg. A prize as a winner), it will seem the divine spirit will try to give a prize to each one but still work against each one since only one person can win.

3. How does it explain thought forms which can be seen by some clairvoyants.

But if it was thought vibration itself doing the work, this issue will not arise

I deliberately decided not to talk about the second process. That is why I answered that the one I know and work with is the first process which works with Divine Spirit.

The second process works too but that has to do with black magic and it is an area and subject I don't like dwelling on as people misuse it to harm others.

That is why it is better to leave the process of manifestation to Divine Spirit ad It will always act for the good of the whole while the second process uses personal will for selfish purposes. I will not advise anyone to use the second process because of the repercussions.

benodic:
@ justlove91



I deliberately decided not to talk about the second process. That is why I answered that the one I know and work with is the first process which works with Divine Spirit.

The second process works too but that has to do with black magic and it is an area and subject I don't like dwelling on as people misuse it to harm others.

That is why it is better to leave the process of manifestation to Divine Spirit ad It will always act for the good of the whole while the second process uses personal will for selfish purposes. I will not advise anyone to use the second process because of the repercussions.

OK
How can one tell if one is using the first or second process since thought is involved in both?

Do you believe disembodied spirits can also influence circumstances and people to bless or harm us?

@ justlove91

OK
How can one tell if one is using the first or second process since thought is involved in both?

For the first process, you create and surrender your creation to Divine Spirit to manifest it as it seems fit for the good of the whole.
Not your will but God"s will to be done in God's own way.

For the second, the person uses his will power and does not accept any other outcome apart from his own will and not God's will. This is how black magicians operate

Do you believe disembodied spirits can also influence circumstances and people to bless or harm us?

This is possible but the door to outer influence is always opened from inside never from without meaning that nothing can harm soul from outside unless soul agrees to it by opening the door through fear, anger or lustful desires.

@ benodic

For the second, the person uses his will power and does not accept any other outcome apart from his own will and not God's will. This is how black magicians operate

In the book Power and Use of thought, after the author explains how thoughts are produced and propagated, he then explains how this knowledge can be used to help and bless others. For example if you see someone sad, send a cheerful thought to them, if you see someone ill, send thoughts of health and vitality to them etc.

In short, this is basically using the second method but for good, do you agree with this?

This is possible but the door to outer influence is always opened from inside never from without meaning that nothing can harm soul from outside unless soul agrees to it by opening the door through fear, anger or lustful desires.

Like attracts like

@ justlove91

In the book Power and Use of thought, after the author explains how thoughts are produced and propagated, he then explains how this knowledge can be used to help and bless others. For example if you see someone sad, send a cheerful thought to them, if you see someone ill, send thoughts of health and vitality to them etc.

In short, this is basically using the second method but for good, do you agree with this?

Definitely you can use the second method for good if you have acquired the discipline and love required which unfortunately majority of people have not.
As it is presently with the level of consciousness of people currently it is even better that man doesn't know the power he possesses or else the world will be in more serious trouble with the strong preying on the weak psychically

benodic:
@ justlove91



Definitely you can use the second method for good if you have acquired the discipline and love required which unfortunately majority of people have not.
As it is presently with the level of consciousness of people currently it is even better that man doesn't know the power he possesses or else the world will be in more serious trouble with the strong preying on the weak psychically

What do you think of Juju? Do you think they've any inherent power or does it work because of using the second method indirectly?

@ justlove91

What do you think of Juju? Do you think they've any inherent power or does it work because of using the second method indirectly

The process of preparing the juju involves incantations that help to intensify and strengthen the negative thought forms. So it uses the second method.

benodic:
@ justlove91



The process of preparing the juju involves incantations that help to intensify and strengthen the negative thought forms. So it uses the second method.

Thought as much.

What is Eckankar teaching on elemental beings and have you seen any?

@ justlove91

What is Eckankar teaching on elemental beings and have you seen any?

Eckankar teachings centres primarily on Soul achieving self-realization and God- realization and usually does not concern itself with psychic matters. I have not seen any elemental beings and have no interest in seeing one either.

benodic:

@ justlove91



Eckankar teachings centres primarily on Soul achieving self-realization and God- realization and usually does not itself with psychic matters. I have not seen any elemental beings and have no interest in seeing one either.

OK

benodic:
@ justlove91



Eckankar teachings centres primarily on Soul achieving self-realization and God- realization and usually does not concern itself with psychic matters. I have not seen any elemental beings and have no interest in seeing one either.

What is the website for eckankar Nigeria
Does eckankar Nigeria has radio programmes?

justlove91:


What is the website for eckankar Nigeria
Does eckankar Nigeria has radio programmes?

the first time i took interest in eckankar was when i listen to eck radio programe way back in 2018. since then i've been listening regularly. there are two local radio stations that i listen to the program every week.

benodic:
How do you let the Spirit of God into your life? The simplest and best way is to sing HU, the age-old song of love for God.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakening Soul

i've been trying to figure out what's the effect of lending money on interest. this is especially significance because both the old testament and new testament bible strongly condemn it. what,please, is ur opinion on this?

Templee333:
the first time i took interest in eckankar was when i listen to eck radio programe way back in 2018. since then i've been listening regularly. there are two local radio stations that i listen to the program every week.

Which stations and time? Are they still airing

justlove91:


Which stations and time? Are they still airing

one is on sunday 8:30 pm and the other is Monday 10:30am; 101.1 FM and 90.5 FM respectlvely. though you may not get these stations clear except you are within Akwa Ibom and Cross Rivers. there are other stations that are close to where you live but i don't know them.

@ Templee333

i've been trying to figure out what's the effect of lending money on interest. this is especially significance because both the old testament and new testament bible strongly condemn it. what,please, is ur opinion on this?

I would like you to be more specific on this question. Do you mean an individual lending money to another person as a means of helping the person or a company like a bank doing business and lending money to people. I would also like you to quote those areas in the bible that condemned lending money.

@ justlove91

What is the website for eckankar Nigeria

eckankarnigeria. org

Does eckankar Nigeria has radio programmes?

There are several radio programmes in different parts of the country.

benodic:
@ Templee333



I would like you to be more specific on this question. Do you mean an individual lending money to another person as a means of helping the person or a company like a bank doing business and lending money to people. I would also like you to quote those areas in the bible that condemned lending money.

I mean lending money on the condition that the person repay you with interest. psalm 15:6, Ezekiel 18:13, luke 6:35.

@ Templee333

I mean lending money on the condition that the person repay you with interest

If it is a business transaction and both parties agreed to it there is nothing wrong with it unless the terms of agreement is broken without mutual consent, then a karmic debt would have been incurred.
The key thing there is do all you have agreed to do.

@ Templee333

psalm 15:6, Ezekiel 18:13, luke 6:35

From what I can understand from these passages it is talking about a person, not in the context of a business, lending money to people and demanding interest.
Let's look at that spiritually.
In the law of giving, when you help someone without looking at the benefit you will receive, the spiritual benefits that come to the giver are quite enormous because you have helped a Soul in need
But when you attach interest to the money you are lending to someone, you are already doing it for selfish purposes and for the gain you want to get and you are also increasing the burden on the person by doing this you end up acquiring negative karma.

benodic:
@ Templee333



From what I can understand from these passages it is talking about a person, not in the context of a business, lending money to people and demanding interest.
Let's look at that spiritually.
In the law of giving, when you help someone without looking at the benefit you will receive, the spiritual benefits that come to the giver are quite enormous because you have helped a Soul in need
But when you attach interest to the money you are lending to someone, you are already doing it for selfish purposes and for the gain you want to get and you are also increasing the burden on the person by doing this you end up acquiring negative karma.

thanks for the response.

Templee333:
one is on sunday 8:30 pm and the other is Monday 10:30am; 101.1 FM and 90.5 FM respectlvely. though you may not get these stations clear except you are within Akwa Ibom and Cross Rivers. there are other stations that are close to where you live but i don't know them.

Thanks

benodic:
@ justlove91



eckankarnigeria. org



There are several radio programmes in different parts of the country.

OK

When we work from the Soul consciousness, we can shape our own destiny.

Sri Harold Klemp
The Awakened Heart

If you sing HU every day for ten minutes, filling your heart with as much love as you can, you will find a greater awareness of the factors affecting your survival, both here on earth and on the inner planes.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakening Soul

HU will put a fresh, new spirit into your life. You will begin to be a happier person, because It will show you what things are truly important for you and what are not.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakening Soul

benodic:
HU will put a fresh, new spirit into your life. You will begin to be a happier person, because It will show you what things are truly important for you and what are not.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakening Soul

You are It already.