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| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Wainey: 10:08am On Aug 15, 2023 |
sultanofpigs:who is doing Don wainey with you? Leave Ikwerre people alone |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by sultanofpigs: 10:09am On Aug 15, 2023 |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Wainey: 10:09am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Dafresh:Leave Ikwerre alone, they are not tribalistic. Don't bring ur tribalistic blood to any part of South south, we reject you. ![]() |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Wainey: 10:12am On Aug 15, 2023 |
sultanofpigs:Let ur tribalism end in ur five states. Can't you read the signs that we don't want you? The sit at home that was accepted by the igbos was rejected by the Ikwerres, this should already tell you the stands of an Ikwerre man. Are you too ashamed to admit that we have rejected you? Wike has already chased most of you, we will chase more |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Dafresh: 10:14am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Wainey:You said Ikwerre said I asked the name of the Ikwerre man or woman that said so you can't mention, have you seen that you brain have decayed |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Wainey: 10:18am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Dafresh:Wike said so. Oya, now u can leave us alone. |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by FutureRecord: 10:27am On Aug 15, 2023 |
attackgat: |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by FutureRecord: 10:28am On Aug 15, 2023 |
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| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by wisdomkid: 10:45am On Aug 15, 2023 |
franchasofficia:Natural gas era? Are you daft? |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by wisdomkid: 10:47am On Aug 15, 2023 |
I don't understand the constant NEED and fight to include people who clearly wants to disassociate themselves from you guys. This is the same as Nigeria. Rivers people saying they are not Igbos - IGBOS fighting endlessly and shamelessly to say they are igbos. Igbo people saying they are not Nigerians - Nigerian government fighting endlessly and shamelessly to say they are Nigerians. |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Ngozi123(f): 10:58am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Igboid:My brother, I think it's time to let the Ikwerre speak for themselves — just like Barrister Okwukwu has done. They will be the ones to be dealing with the hateful non-Igbos when we keep silent. As long as 50% claim their Igbo heritage and the other 50% don't, there will always be problems. People like Wike are products of Igbophobic propaganda so we need to move on without them. |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Ngozi123(f): 11:01am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Wainey:Why are you saying "we" when you've admitted that you're not Ikwerre? Igboid was right; why are you getting involved? |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Ngozi123(f): 11:21am On Aug 15, 2023 |
wisdomkid:The problem, as the op has proved, is that some of them claim their Igbo heritage. If you read the history books, you will see that the Ikwerre prior to 1967 (including the colonial era) were described as an Igbo group. We didn't have any conventional kingdom or empires such as Oyo or the Sokoto Caliphate, in which you could pinpoint the ethnicity of each individual. 'Igboness' was largely determined by the language you spoke; the food you ate; the gods you served; market days etc. All these pointed to the Ikwerre being Igbo. I am not one to force anybody to claim somerhing they don't want to — we live in an age where a man can call himself a woman and a woman, a man. However, you cannot deny history. It dishonour our ancestors. We should not take the Ikwerre or any sub-group with notable Igbo deniers when we secede. We don't want our country to become another Nigeria. |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Wainey: 11:31am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Ngozi123:because unlike the ipob that wants to use Ikwerre as a tool to raise Igbo political influence, I see the Ikwerres more as a neighbor. Why didn't the igbos claim the Ikwerres since 60's when the Ikwerres were politically irrelevant. Now that Igbos are looking for political numbers, they have started knowing their brothers from Delta, Akwaibom and Rivers. Madam I was born in the 90's, the Ikwerres has never seen Igbo support, where is the sudden love coming from, the igbos hasn't shown love to their brothers all these while, why must the Ikwerre show love now? A home is a place where you feel loved and welcome, while the igbos were busy trying to conquer Nigeria, the Ikwerres has been having good relationship with ijos, Ogonis, Okirikas etc. Now the igbos wants to bring them back. people that you don't have interest on ever since, the Ikwerres has since moved on while u are busy fighting North and west. |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Wainey: 11:34am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Ngozi123:Madam, here in the south south, there is not tribalism, even if there is, it is minimal. I am very sure majority of the SS will want to remain as SS than join any of the big three. Just let them be |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Abagworo(m): 11:36am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Ngozi123:Yielding to territorial and ethnic manipulation is one of the signs of weakness at the center. No ethnic nation should yield their territory for outsiders to divide and determine their boundary. After the defeat of Igbos and the creation of new ethnic groups out of the Igbo nation by the federal government and Igbos accepted it then (1970) they became perceived as weak hence the establishment few years later of the Nasir boundary commission to further excise territories thought to be rich in oil resources from then East Central State and Bendel State into Rivers State. This includes Ndoni, Egbema and Obigbo. |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Af0NjaAreLiars: 11:36am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Wainey:So what's your point exactly? Do you know history sef? Have you ever heard of the abandoned properties saga After the war? I doubt You're ikwere No body is forcing anybody oil era will soon be over |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Wainey: 11:41am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Af0NjaAreLiars:You guys are the only ones still fixated on oil, maybe that is ur agenda. The Ikwerres rejecting the igbos is far from oil. Ever after the civil war, the trust between igbos and the minorities has become sour |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Wainey: 11:45am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Abagworo:The Ikwerres needs something more than oil. If igbos had treated the minorities with kindness, the establishment of other states would have been fought by the minorities, but here the minorities have accepted that they are different from igbos and some have started denying Igbo heritage. They may have wiped history from igbo lands but history still lives in SS states and we know who inflicted more pains on us |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Abagworo(m): 11:51am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Wainey:Ikwerre is not minority. Ikwerre is majority in Rivers State and also part of Igbo ethnic group the most populous in Nigeria. Here is the history as told by an Ikwerre Chief from Emohua. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB6QdPc5WmA |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by gidgiddy: 11:55am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Wainey:People like this make me laugh. The constitution of Nigeria does not recognize anything called South South and there was nothing called South South until the mid 90's Someone will just come from somewhere and be claiming brotherhood with more than 40 ethnic groups, most of whom he does not understand their language, their culture and and knows next to nothing about, in the name of geopolitical zone But when the same person sees any unity between Igbo and Ikwerre who speak the same language, bear the same names and have the same culture, the person will be asking why What is important in unconstitutional geopolitical zone ![]() |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Igboid: 12:17pm On Aug 15, 2023*. Modified: 12:49pm On Aug 15, 2023 |
Abagworo:When you lose a war you are usually at a weak position. Germany lost huge hectares of land to Poland after losing second world war, it's even worst in Germany case because the native Germans in those lands were forced to leave their ancestral homes and migrate back to lands in modern day Germany under USSR support of Poland. Ikwerre feared similar fate if they retained their Igbo tag, with Ijaws well poised to strike and appropriate Ikwerre lands to themselves with full support of the Hausa-Fulanis and Yoruba controlled Igbophobic FG of post civil war era. This was why they rushed and denounced attachment to Igbos and were able to save their lands, even winning the Ijaws in supreme Court over PH ownership in immediate post civil era. That wouldn't have been possible If they remained proudly Igbo. Every rational Igbo that understands history appreciate why Ikwerre had to play Igbo denial game they played in old Rivers state post civil war. The Igbophobic Hausa Fulani and Yoruba Government of the day would have thwarted justice, if Ikwerre remained proudly Igbo. You only have to Look at how Ututu people in Arochukwu LGA lost half of their lands immediately after the civil war to people from Odukpani LGA cross River that they accomodated as customary tenants in their lands in pre colonial era. If Ututu were not Igbo, that wouldn't have happened. Losing a war comes with a price and Ikwerre refused to pay that price by cunningly severing ties with Igbo, it's understandable. My grouse with them is that the post civil war era is gone, Igbos are no longer so weak and the Hausa-Fulanis and their Yoruba partners are no longer wielding military veto power. Zik and Ukiwe have helped them cage Ijaw in Bayelsa, so why then does Ikwerre people still see the need to continue the Igbo denial game? It hasn't helped Odili( I know he is Ndoni but it's same game they are all playing), it hasn't helped Amaechi, it hasn't helped Wike, and it will never help any of them at the federal level. The Ijaw threat has been eliminated by pinning them in Bayelsa, the Ikwerre are in full control of PH like they always wanted, the country is under civil rule so the Hausa-Fulanis and Yoruba partners can't wield big veto power and gift their(Ikwerre) lands to their Ijaw partners, as punitive measures against Ndiigbo and reward to their Ijaw partners, without it being challenged fully in supreme court. The Ikwerre current posture is nolonger acceptable to SEners, the general and growing consensus in SE today is that Ikwerre are expandable to our future endeavors and shouldn't be paid attention anymore. There is a limit of humiliation and rejection a people can accept before they moved on. Germany left their territories in Poland and even Tyriol in Italy, yet they are the biggest economy in Europe today. None of those abandoned Germanic territories in Austria, Lichtenstein, Italy (Tyriol), even German speaking parts of Switzerland are as developed and advanced as Germany today. So yes, Ndiigbo are more than ready and capable of leaving Ikwerre behind and march on to our future. While we rue the loss of those territories and brothers who have turned enemies eager to team up with our enemies to cajole and ridicule us, we also appreciate the fact that what we have in SE is greater than whatever we could have lost in those other places. In Igbo language, we say "Nkemjika" ! |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Enice(m): 1:06pm On Aug 15, 2023 |
attackgat:this long epistle just because you want to snatch another man's oil and gas! We know you modus operandi. First, you claim the land through ethnic affiliation then heritage and culture, and lastly through birthright. The next step is annexation. Go and annex kogi before you talk of Rivers state. |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by socialjustice93: 1:47pm On Aug 15, 2023 |
Wainey:Agbado man stop foaming here like a rabid dog, that article was written by an Ikwerre son. Did you even read through or you just entered the thread and start typing jargons with your usual hate? |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Wainey: 1:48pm On Aug 15, 2023 |
socialjustice93:we have rejected you |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Wainey: 1:50pm On Aug 15, 2023 |
gidgiddy:I don't care, but we have rejected the igbos |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Abagworo(m): 2:14pm On Aug 15, 2023 |
Enice:The writer Uche Okwukwu is an Ikwerrian so I guess you did not read well |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by socialjustice93: 2:21pm On Aug 15, 2023 |
Wainey:Mpama ![]() |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Enice(m): 2:31pm On Aug 15, 2023 |
Abagworo:The writer has a right to his own opinion but you that posted it to score cheap ethnic political points is the one I'm referring to. The writer can publish whatever he wants. The poster wants to now use the article as if it is a generally accepted norm! Oga you lie, Ikwerres have said they're not Igbo, accept it. |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by favor914: 2:47pm On Aug 15, 2023 |
Wainey: |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by Sizwezi: 2:47pm On Aug 15, 2023 |
Igboid:As e suppose be! 💯 |
| Re: What An Ikwerre Man Said About Ikwerres, Igbos And History by OfoIgbo: 3:07pm On Aug 15, 2023 |
Wainey:That letter was written by a well known Ikwerre man, Barr. Uche Okwukwu. Shouldn't you be happy for him, for identifying with the greater Igbo family? Or you guys want to meddle again as you meddled in the case of Obi Wali whereby you drunkards went ahead and butchered him for his affinity with his fellow Igbos. I believe Igboid made this point in his writeup above. Steer clear of this topic. You are neither Igbo nor Ikwerre-Igbo |
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