₦airaland Forum

Rolings:
They Can.

The indigenous gwari people are known to shy away from modernization hence when the government relocated them from the site of the present FCT and build houses for them at selected locations they simply moved further inside the bush abandoning the houses and selling their lands.
If the core north wants to take over Abuja it will use different means to cajole the indigenes that it's in their best interest to sell Abuja to them and if that didn't work instigate crisis

Crisis go kill them, na only Dem Sabi crisis?
Nobody go sleep.

yinkkus:
Shut the fvck up ! People can move from all parts.

Who's this idiot? It seems you want to be unfortunate right?

yinkkus:
IREV was simple but they messed it up , let's think positive and forward not this olule rubbish.

IREV was not complex ,. It can be used easily and transparently but was not deliberately used.

What do you think will happen if someone hacked into INEC's server and manipulate the result to be different from that of the form EC8As? Yes, the form EC8As will carry the day but the doubts that will be created in the minds of Nigerians will be enough to create political instability. As it stands today, no one has come out to say what is in IREV is different from that of the EC8As. What they are complaining about is that it is blurred or it has pictures other than the EC8As not that it did not tally.

Enice:
What do you think will happen if someone hacked into INEC's server and manipulate the result to be different from that of the form EC8As? Yes, the form EC8As will carry the day but the doubts that will be created in the minds of Nigerians will be enough to create political instability. As it stands today, no one has come out to say what is in IREV is different from that of the EC8As. What they are complaining about is that it is blurred or it has pictures other than the EC8As not that it did not tally.

"No one has come to say what is in IREV is different from the EC8 " how can you? if it's different from the one in the IREV, when you can't even access the content in the IREV blurred sheets, tpexed, changed e.t.c

Which yeye hacking, what they planned for with billions of naira , glitch ko, glitch ni! part of the plan is to counter the possible hacking is develope technology to save the data in multiple forms and developed anti - hacking mechanism , and besides we were told , immediately you conclude election, snap it in the presence of everyone , with the score known and transparent in the presence of everyone with video evidence but they deliberately stopped that , so what's the essence of the the technology being signed into law if you are just sighting hacking on the d - day , you shouldn't have budgeted for it and signed it into law , at least send it first and if they hack it ,we will all see , of course agents have their copies, the national assembly results were transmitted immediately , so why such dubious excuse? Anyway let's see the calculation hopefully the ec8 will tally.

DeOTR:
Who's this idiot? It seems you want to be unfortunate right?

Your mama want to be unfortunate, na ogun go kill you!! Idiotic naughty boy!

aswani:
Your post is a tough read as you have no paragraphs but regarding the above, vote buying was still possible because people were still receiving alerts.

Emefiele and Bubu's canal were wicked to the extreme in forcing out their Ill thought out policy.

Maybe you are not in Nigeria or read or see the suffering that people went through but never again should POS operators, in connivance with bank workers, blatantly be ripping people off because of a policy that the people that issued it didn't prepare for.

In the end, the courts had to step in to save the ordinary people and let the old currency still be used.

The policy was hard and harsh on people but limited to a great extent vote buying, cash can't be compared with alert.

NO NO NO.
ELECTRONIC DEVICES ARE AIs AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
NI IS CONSTITUTIONAL.
BVAS IS AI AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
PROF MAHMOOD IS NI AND IS CONSTITUTIONAL.

yinkkus:
"No one has come to say what is in IREV is different from the EC8 " how can you? if it's different from the one in the IREV, when you can't even access the content in the IREV blurred sheets, tpexed, changed e.t.c

Which yeye hacking, what they planned for with billions of naira , glitch ko, glitch ni! part of the plan is to counter the possible hacking is develope technology to save the data in multiple forms and developed anti - hacking mechanism , and besides we were told , immediately you conclude election, snap it in the presence of everyone , with the score known and transparent in the presence of everyone with video evidence but they deliberately stopped that , so what's the essence of the the technology being signed into law if you are just sighting hacking on the d - day , you shouldn't have budgeted for it and signed it into law , at least send it first and if they hack it ,we will all see , of course agents have their copies, the national assembly results were transmitted immediately , so why such dubious excuse? Anyway let's see the calculation hopefully the ec8 will tally.

Oga, data already saved in multiple form through the issuance of copies of EC8As to party agents, police and INEC's copies. The IREV is just a viewing portal for public consumption and nothing else. But it is a very powerful tool in the hands of subversives like obidients.

Enice:
Oga, data already saved in multiple form through the issuance of copies of EC8As to party agents, police and INEC's copies. The IREV is just a viewing portal for public consumption and nothing else. But it is a very powerful tool in the hands of subversives like obidients.

Enice1, Well said again but I doubt you are going to get through to Obidients.

IREV is not and will never be the source of truth for an election.

As you alluded to, it is there, as a public service to help researchers, historians and other interested individuals not need to bother INEC for result requests.

That any Tom, Dick and Harry can now get hold of that information without paying a Naira shows the strides we are making as a nation. Last time I checked, you don't even have to log in sef.

Hopefully in time, every single election in Naija going back to pre independence day, will be uploaded to that portal.

INEC told Obi to pay for copies of the real paper based results, he didn't because he knew those documents won't support his claims of electoral victory. He instead ran to the (admittedly imperfect) IREV portal to get his copies.

SmartPolician:
Oga, this is FALSE.

People who live in Abuja are enlightened. It's not like Ogun where Tinubu will come and scream Yoruba Lokan.

Also, FCT has more security than anywhere in Nigeria, meaning that thugs won't be allowed to run away with ballot boxes like it played out in many places around Lagos. In fact, in my polling unit, the bale asked people to stop voting and fight broke out. That was how guber election ended - fight, disarray, violence and bloodshed.

Besides, foreign election observers always throng Abuja, meaning that elections in Abuja will always remain peaceful, fair and credible because for obvious reasons, the Nigerian government will do anything to look good in the eyes of foreigners.

So, you are totally wrong. What can only work in Abuja is engaging enlightened minds and getting them to vote for your party, not violence.

Trust me, you won't be saying this if Obi or whoever you support got 25% in 29 States, got popular votes and failed to get 25% in Abuja.
What you just said will be nonsense in your ear then.

Phantom233:
till when you grow up, if I may ask, how many lagosians makeup the population of lagos? FCT is not a tribal zone but a centralized collection of all Nigerians in perspective. Same way Tinubu was beaten hands down in his so called Lagos state....dis thing don de clear una for eyes small small😜

Beaten hands down in Lagos?😂
Being beaten by just about 10k votes now translate to being beaten hands down?😂
Why did GRV not beat Sanwo Olu hands down in the same Lagos na.?😂

Enice:
Oga, data already saved in multiple form through the issuance of copies of EC8As to party agents, police and INEC's copies. The IREV is just a viewing portal for public consumption and nothing else. But it is a very powerful tool in the hands of subversives like obidients.

Oh boy, data are backed up online to work against hacking apart from other anti hacking mechanism, that's what I meant by saving Data in multiple forms, not paper.

Can you imagine ! On the day of election , transmitting election became an issue, and lame excuses are given, but no problem with national Assemblies election.

Are you their spokesperson that the results were not transmitted to the viewing portal because of obidients, is that their official position or your assumption?

The IREV is important to confirm authenticity , if paper results are forged and raise confusion, that's why the security of the IREV was important and budgeted for, so what's the reason for the budget in the first place, if it wasn't going to be used because of obidients and their likes, does that make sense to you?

I know results sheet can be compared, my prayer is that they all tally , if not, how do we resolve it , since Nigeria and INEC are notorious for rigging.

gillz:
in that case the election should be restricted to Abuja. No need wasting money conducting election in states

If Abuja is part of the requirements, then you don't have to win it, it's just 25% and we won't restrict the whole election to Abuja

aswani:
Enice1, Well said again but I doubt you are going to get through to Obidients.

IREV is not and will never be the source of truth for an election.

As you alluded to, it is there, as a public service to help researchers, historians and other interested individuals not need to bother INEC for result requests.

That any Tom, Dick and Harry can now get hold of that information without paying a Naira shows the strides we are making as a nation. Last time I checked, you don't even have to log in sef.

Hopefully in time, every single election in Naija going back to pre independence day, will be uploaded to that portal.

INEC told Obi to pay for copies of the real paper based results, he didn't because he knew those documents won't support his claims of electoral victory. He instead ran to the (admittedly imperfect) IREV portal to get his copies.

Deceive yourself with your bias mind,

Did they introduce IREV for the sake of researchers? Hell no!

When there are forging and changes , and papers don't tally , they fall back to IREV , this is the essence of new electoral law.

IREV , so called glitch and hacking, were prepare and budgeted for.

Yinkusgold:
When there are forging and changes , and papers don't tally[b] , they fall back to IREV , this is the essence of new electoral law.[/b]

This electoral law that you are referring to, per the bolded, can you please post the link?

Peter Obi and his legal team can't find this law, that is why they wheeled a huge HDTV into the courtroom to play Yakubu saying IREV will be used and they got three journalists to say they heard Yakubu say IREV will be used.

IREV was used to show the electronic copies of the form, sadly some electoral offices did a poor job and didn't upload their forms correctly and the portal itself went down during the process. These things happen.

Thank God, we have the very reliable paper based copies that, Cynthia Okeke aside, cannot be compromised as easily as IREV in calculating the final tally for elections.

Perfectbeing:
Beaten hands down in Lagos?😂
Being beaten by just about 10k votes now translate to being beaten hands down?😂
Why did GRV not beat Sanwo Olu hands down in the same Lagos na.?😂

There are allegations that Obi's result is surpresed in Lagos, get that right.

You must be wicked , if you call what happened between Sanwo Olu and GRV election......I don't need to say what every honest person knows.

Yinkusgold:
There are allegations that Obi's result is surpresed in Lagos, get that right.

There are also allegations that Tinubu, Atiku, Kwankwaso and Sowore's "results" were "supresed" in ala igbo.

That is the problem with allegations, they are like a-holes, everyone has one. They are only fantasy, and in some cases outright lies, until you can prove them.

Even Peter Obi himself is not disputing Lagos State results as he sensibly didn't mention it in court knowing there is a good chance it is balderdash (same as his initial claims of electoral victory funny enough)

aswani:
This electoral law that you are referring to, per the bolded, can you please post the link?

Peter Obi and his legal team can't find this law, that is why they wheeled a huge HDTV into the courtroom to play Yakubu saying IREV will be used and they got three journalists to say they heard Yakubu say IREV will be used.

IREV was used to show the electronic copies of the form, sadly some electoral offices did a poor job and didn't upload their forms correctly and the portal itself went down during the process. These things happen.

Thank God, we have the very reliable paper based copies that, Cynthia Okeke aside, cannot be compromised as easily as IREV in calculating the final tally for elections.

Are you an objective discussant or a politician because I don't like this insincerity.

"Some electoral officers did some poor job and didn't upload properly and their server went down at that moment,.... bla bla bla..see talk....

Their server went down or a deliberate effort to stop uploading in real time Nationwide, evidences and correspondence abound Nationwide to this effect.

I wonder the reason for the IREV in the first place.

Let them calculate , I hope the papers from each party will tally.

aswani:
This electoral law that you are referring to, per the bolded, can you please post the link?

Peter Obi and his legal team can't find this law, that is why they wheeled a huge HDTV into the courtroom to play Yakubu saying IREV will be used and they got three journalists to say they heard Yakubu say IREV will be used.

IREV was used to show the electronic copies of the form, sadly some electoral offices did a poor job and didn't upload their forms correctly and the portal itself went down during the process. These things happen.

Thank God, we have the very reliable paper based copies that, Cynthia Okeke aside, cannot be compromised as easily as IREV in calculating the final tally for elections.

Please sincerely check your Internet ,, I am quite busy , IAM doing things at the same time

Transmission is part of the provisions for new electoral act, I am not talking about their discretion.

Yinkusgold:
Are you an objective discussant or a politician because I don't like this insincerity.

"Some electoral officers did some poor job and didn't upload properly and their server went down at that moment,.... bla bla bla..see talk....

Their server went down or a deliberate effort to stop uploading in real time Nationwide, evidences and correspondence abound Nationwide to this effect.

I wonder the reason for the IREV in the first place.

Let them calculate , I hope the papers from each party will tally.

Per the bolded, where is this evidence that abounds nationwide because Peter Obi would have loved to have them to use at the Tribunal.

Remember in a court of law or Tribunal, if you don't have proof it didn't happen.

aswani:
There are also allegations that Tinubu, Atiku, Kwankwaso and Sowore's "results" were "supresed" in ala igbo.

That is the problem with allegations, they are like a-holes, everyone has one. They are only fantasy, and in some cases outright lies, until you can prove them.

Even Peter Obi himself is not disputing Lagos State results as he sensibly didn't mention it in court knowing there is a good chance it is balderdash (same as his initial claims of electoral victory funny enough)

I agree with you that allegations are just allegations till they are proven, but you are inadequate, when you say Obi didn't worry about Lagos' election in the court, that's not true...

Don't be emotional, we will know if what he tendered will work for him or not.

Yinkusgold:
Please sincerely check your Internet ,, I am quite busy , IAM doing things at the same time

Transmission is part of the provisions for new electoral act, I am not talking about their discretion.

I have and I can't see where it is mandated to use the IREV portal in announcing the results.

aswani:
Per the bolded, where is this evidence that abounds nationwide because Peter Obi would have loved to have them to use at the Tribunal.

Remember in a court of law or Tribunal, if you don't have proof it didn't happen.

Yes , court is about fact and not about truth..

But you can't say Obi didn't bring witnesses across the nation.

aswani:
I have and I can't see where it is mandated to use the IREV portal in announcing the results.

It's part of the requirements, IAM not talking about it being mandatory or not mandatory.

Yinkusgold:
There are allegations that Obi's result is surpresed in Lagos, get that right.

You must be wicked , if you call what happened between Sanwo Olu and GRV election......I don't need to say what every honest person knows.

You mean the allegations that Peter Obi got over 900k out of 1.3m voters in Lagos? Even you, a brain de@d person can't possibly believe that na.

Perfectbeing:
You mean the allegations that Peter Obi got over 900k out of 1.3m voters in Lagos? Even you, a brain de@d person can't possibly believe that na.

Perfectbeing, you don't seem to realise the level of imbecility you are dealing with when it comes to Obidients.

Despite Peter Obi not once claiming or presenting evidence to support a claim of him winning the Presidential elections at the Tribunal itself, we are still hearing cries of "stolen mandate" from Obidients.

aswani:
Perfectbeing, you don't seem to realise the level of imbecility you are dealing with when it comes to Obidients.

Despite Peter Obi not once claiming or presenting evidence to support a claim of him winning the Presidential elections at the Tribunal itself, we are still hearing cries of "stolen mandate" from Obidients.

This their cries and wails na till 2031 and beyond.

Perfectbeing:
You mean the allegations that Peter Obi got over 900k out of 1.3m voters in Lagos? Even you, a brain de@d person can't possibly believe that na.

Your father whose brain is dead should go and verify the veracity of the results first before
any conjecture or argument, idiot!

yinkkus:
Your mama want to be unfortunate, na ogun go kill you!! Idiotic naughty boy!

Ogun go kill his own child? Don't worry, you'll soon find out whose blood Ogun would find easy to use take bath. Idiot!

DeOTR:
Ogun go kill his own child? Don't worry, you'll soon find out whose blood Ogun would find easy to use take bath. Idiot!

Na Ogun go kill you , Ogun go bathe with your blood , if na ogun born u or ur mama i no want know...
Ogun lo ma fi eje e we idiotic bastard!

yinkkus:
Na Ogun go kill you , Ogun go bathe with your blood , if na ogun born u or ur mama i no want know...
Ogun lo ma fi eje e we idiotic bastard!

You've killed yourself with your own mouth.
See how you defined how you intend to end your life! RIP in advance.