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vyncentino:
well some of you are probably,below 30 so you didn't experience,military regime,because if you do you not talk like this,check your history or Google how Nigeria was before military regime,especially before 1984 buhari took over,see in military regime just know you don't vote your leader o, they appoint to you who ever they like,and you don't argue with them,if you questions their leadership style,the kill the person,nobody can do anything about it o,no courts of justice o,
Every player in the military regime in Nigeria is a millionaire today till date, they all crumble Nigeria economy to their individual pucket, the only man who didn't steal public money
is buhari, that is why he came back as civilians and crumble Nigeria economy,what he fail to do 1984,in military regime you can't carry some hair style o or girl wearing trousers hmm
You guys don know any thing poverty was the other of the day you can't insult the president o even on social media,no freedom

That Buhari analysis gives you Grammy award.

Is it not generally agreed that the most corrupt regime ever in Nigeria was that of IBB? Join to that the Abacha regime with this roving death squads and toothless judiciary and yet here we are still debating why military must come back. Take the case of Lagos state as an example we have had Oyhinlola, Marwa and Raji Rasaki as military governors after Jakande and before Tinubu. In this intervening period can you compare and contrast the achievements of these three military men with the civilians towards the development of the Lagos state we see today?

InvertedHammer:
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Your argument holds no water since civilian rule aka democracy has been of no benefits to the masses. You are comparing two bad cases to determine which is worse. If democracy has been beneficial, this debate won't arise in the first place. Do you call a father handing over to his son after 42 years democracy? Or do people rigging themselves into power considered democracy?

The military appoint whoever they like into positions of power. Civilians do the same too or do you think "bow and go" is a ministerial screening? You seem to fall for the smokescreen.

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seanwilliam:
do you know that the first thing military governments do when they get to power is suspension of constitution and fundamental human rights? Do u know you can’t publicly criticize them?

we all know that. And what is the usefulness of fundamental human right that u can't talk for democracy as well? They banned all manners of protest, and u called that democracy? They shot at innocent people during endsars, and even packed their bodies, denied it, and u called that democracy? Haha. I prefer military to cease power first and reset our politicians brain to factory reset.

vyncentino:
well some of you are probably,below 30 so you didn't experience,military regime,because if you do you not talk like this,check your history or Google how Nigeria was before military regime,especially before 1984 buhari took over,see in military regime just know you don't vote your leader o, they appoint to you who ever they like,and you don't argue with them,if you questions their leadership style,the kill the person,nobody can do anything about it o,no courts of justice o,
Every player in the military regime in Nigeria is a millionaire today till date, they all crumble Nigeria economy to their individual pucket, the only man who didn't steal public money
is buhari, that is why he came back as civilians and crumble Nigeria economy,what he fail to do 1984,in military regime you can't carry some hair style o or girl wearing trousers hmm
You guys don know any thing poverty was the other of the day you can't insult the president o even on social media,no freedom

then make Dem dey allow people vote dey count.

gift2xl:
Nice development, since African leaders choose to silent the voice of the people using military, now the military are doing the job on behalf of the masses.

we knowsay u be Igbo...

He's not going to be different from other sit tight African leaders,

vyncentino:
well some of you are probably,below 30 so you didn't experience,military regime,because if you do you not talk like this,check your history or Google how Nigeria was before military regime,especially before 1984 buhari took over,see in military regime just know you don't vote your leader o, they appoint to you who ever they like,and you don't argue with them,if you questions their leadership style,the kill the person,nobody can do anything about it o,no courts of justice o,
Every player in the military regime in Nigeria is a millionaire today till date, they all crumble Nigeria economy to their individual pucket, the only man who didn't steal public money
is buhari, that is why he came back as civilians and crumble Nigeria economy,what he fail to do 1984,in military regime you can't carry some hair style o or girl wearing trousers hmm
You guys don know any thing poverty was the other of the day you can't insult the president o even on social media,no freedom

Immediately you mentioned Buhari, I know yiu don't have sen^e.

Family drama.....and Obi supporters call it change....lol.......Godspeed to Gabon


Nairaland MODs don dey change obi.d.iots to obi supporters...lol....emura si

Na wha for u o, na ur own version of revolution be dat? U doing well

keymatt:
Election riggers, Rubber stamp Senate, Corrupt Judiciary and supporters of mandate thieves take note.
Revolution is taking over Africa!!!!
From now henceforth, it will no longer be business as usual. Injustice and impunity tolerated years ago will never be tolerated today. 😎😎😎😎

As if military seff, no follow dem run election.

Intergrated:
then make Dem dey allow people vote dey count.

vyncentino:
well some of you are probably,below 30 so you didn't experience,military regime,because if you do you not talk like this,check your history or Google how Nigeria was before military regime,especially before 1984 buhari took over,see in military regime just know you don't vote your leader o, they appoint to you who ever they like,and you don't argue with them,if you questions their leadership style,the kill the person,nobody can do anything about it o,no courts of justice o,
Every player in the military regime in Nigeria is a millionaire today till date, they all crumble Nigeria economy to their individual pucket, the only man who didn't steal public money
is buhari, that is why he came back as civilians and crumble Nigeria economy,what he fail to do 1984,in military regime you can't carry some hair style o or girl wearing trousers hmm
You guys don know any thing poverty was the other of the day you can't insult the president o even on social media,no freedom

Leave many of them, they that spend most of their day insulting people online, they will be tracked to their house and bundled away.
The when the sanction go come hunger go supplus I fact many businesses both online and offline will die off.
Any funny thing most of the people celebrating the guy forgets he is a cousin ousted president so it's more like a family affair. Instead of to reject the guy and his entire family they are rejoicing.
The truth we don't support most of the leadership style in Africa but its worse trading one evil for a worse one. If they want total freedom, they should rise up chase those idiots out of power.

Kind of funny how many people are supporting the need for coup in Nigeria.

The same kind of sentiment was there in 1965 and even 1983. People called for the overthrow of the government, and even demanded it happened. Once the government was overthrown, people took to the street to rejoice, and cheer, and thank God...and drink lots of alcohol.

Until we woke up and found that after the reggae, comes the blues. (Apt. Reggae has been used to call for revolution. Blues tells it as it is, warts and all).

Me, I don't like APC, Tinubu or even PDP, LP Obi or Atiku or Bubu. But the thing is, I would rather take a corrupt Obi government or a corrupt Tinubu or ATIKU, or even GEJ corruption....than go for another stint under army rule. It is just that we got lucky that the three times army boys tried to make themselves permanent rulers for life....they got furstrated, otherwise we would have been looking at Mobutu max.

Most of the time, big parties win because Nigerians are lazy. Nigerians do not want to do the hard work of mobilizing for change, instead we just sit back and do armchair gymnastics...or back the old corrupt buzzards anyway.

(But hey, USA, Japan, Germany, France, and UK are ripe for new parties apart from the same old. But most people don't care enough, so every time the same old parties exchange seats. Japan has even had one party running the show since 1955, except for 3 years...when shockingly a new party won).

Only place where army rule worked was South Korea. That's because Park Chung Hee knew to leave economics to economic experts. All he just told them was to do what Japan was doing, and since many of them liked Japan's super growth back then, it was an easy order to follow. (He also told the big men businesses that they could have everything they needed...including tax breaks, provided they created jobs and industries at home. Orders obeyed. Otherwise he was a repressive SOB.). In Nigeria, army rulers will loot like the civvies..only with guns this time.

But no, we want a nanny to come and do things for us. Nanny please feed me!

gaby:
He won't be any different from the Bongos and other sit-tight power-drunk idiots all around Africa.

he is even a cousin... Na plan work

E get Yorrobba face.

gaby:
He won't be any different from the Bongos and other sit-tight power-drunk idiots all around Africa.

Shey him sef don de buy properties for america? He's like them.

It's a counter coup.


No president should have spent 50plus years in power. That was not democratic..


Besides it's still in the family.

Sometimes instead of being overly greedy just do good and leave when the ovation de loudest!!!

All leaders that continue to be greedy, power needs to change hands.

RedAlert08:
E get Yorrobba face.

He looks eastern...

nairalanda1:
Kind of funny how many people are supporting the need for coup in Nigeria.

The same kind of sentiment was there in 1965 and even 1983. People called for the overthrow of the government, and even demanded it happened. Once the government was overthrown, people took to the street to rejoice, and cheer, and thank God...and drink lots of alcohol.

Until we woke up and found that after the reggae, comes the blues. (Apt. Reggae has been used to call for revolution. Blues tells it as it is, warts and all).

Me, I don't like APC, Tinubu or even PDP, LP Obi or Atiku or Bubu. But the thing is, I would rather take a corrupt Obi government or a corrupt Tinubu or ATIKU, or even GEJ corruption....than go for another stint under army rule. It is just that we got lucky that the three times army boys tried to make themselves permanent rulers for life....they got furstrated, otherwise we would have been looking at Mobutu max.

Most of the time, big parties win because Nigerians are lazy. Nigerians do not want to do the hard work of mobilizing for change, instead we just sit back and do armchair gymnastics...or back the old corrupt buzzards anyway.

(But hey, USA, Japan, Germany, France, and UK are ripe for new parties apart from the same old. But most people don't care enough, so every time the same old parties exchange seats. Japan has even had one party running the show since 1955, except for 3 years...when shockingly a new party won).

Only place where army rule worked was South Korea. That's because Park Chung Hee knew to leave economics to economic experts. All he just told them was to do what Japan was doing, and since many of them liked Japan's super growth back then, it was an easy order to follow. (He also told the big men businesses that they could have everything they needed...including tax breaks, provided they created jobs and industries at home. Orders obeyed. Otherwise he was a repressive SOB.). In Nigeria, army rulers will loot like the civvies..only with guns this time.

But no, we want a nanny to come and do things for us. Nanny please feed me!

people calling for coup in Nigeria are ignorant.

The man no get any picture where he smile?

vyncentino:
well some of you are probably,below 30 so you didn't experience,military regime,because if you do you not talk like this,check your history or Google how Nigeria was before military regime,especially before 1984 buhari took over,see in military regime just know you don't vote your leader o, they appoint to you who ever they like,and you don't argue with them,if you questions their leadership style,the kill the person,nobody can do anything about it o,no courts of justice o,
Every player in the military regime in Nigeria is a millionaire today till date, they all crumble Nigeria economy to their individual pucket, the only man who didn't steal public money
is buhari, that is why he came back as civilians and crumble Nigeria economy,what he fail to do 1984,in military regime you can't carry some hair style o or girl wearing trousers hmm
You guys don know any thing poverty was the other of the day you can't insult the president o even on social media,no freedom

This life is stage by stage... That Era is gone. If military fuckkk up, rebels and terrorists will rise up and fight them. One thing Africa don't know is that evil does not last long na why oyibo decided to fix there country to benefit everybody to avoid chaos and war. Democracy in Africa is dead on arrival... Military rule too, won't work unless they decide to play nice game. In the end, we go dey alright

vyncentino:
well some of you are probably,below 30 so you didn't experience,military regime,because if you do you not talk like this,check your history or Google how Nigeria was before military regime,especially before 1984 buhari took over,see in military regime just know you don't vote your leader o, they appoint to you who ever they like,and you don't argue with them,if you questions their leadership style,the kill the person,nobody can do anything about it o,no courts of justice o,
Every player in the military regime in Nigeria is a millionaire today till date, they all crumble Nigeria economy to their individual pucket, the only man who didn't steal public money
is buhari, that is why he came back as civilians and crumble Nigeria economy,what he fail to do 1984,in military regime you can't carry some hair style o or girl wearing trousers hmm
You guys don know any thing poverty was the other of the day you can't insult the president o even on social media,no freedom

Thanks for this, most of them calling for military intervention are just kids who don't know anything about military rule, do they think they might still have nairaland during the military rule

gaby:
He won't be any different from the Bongos and other sit-tight power-drunk idiots all around Africa.

Yeah, that's the insight I am getting from this story.
Well, only time will reveal all things.

gaby:
He won't be any different from the Bongos and other sit-tight power-drunk idiots all around Africa.

Exactly. You know the drill.

Baatunde:
Is it not generally agreed that the most corrupt regime ever in Nigeria was that of IBB? Join to that the Abacha regime with this roving death squads and toothless judiciary and yet here we are still debating why military must come back. Take the case of Lagos state as an example we have had Oyhinlola, Marwa and Raji Rasaki as military governors after Jakande and before Tinubu. In this intervening period can you compare and contrast the achievements of these three military men with the civilians towards the development of the Lagos state we see today?

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Considering the era, most things there are to brag about Lagos was built by the military. What you see are add-ons with huge propaganda budgets.

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vyncentino:
well some of you are probably,below 30 so you didn't experience,military regime,because if you do you not talk like this,check your history or Google how Nigeria was before military regime,especially before 1984 buhari took over,see in military regime just know you don't vote your leader o, they appoint to you who ever they like,and you don't argue with them,if you questions their leadership style,the kill the person,nobody can do anything about it o,no courts of justice o,
Every player in the military regime in Nigeria is a millionaire today till date, they all crumble Nigeria economy to their individual pucket, the only man who didn't steal public money
is buhari, that is why he came back as civilians and crumble Nigeria economy,what he fail to do 1984,in military regime you can't carry some hair style o or girl wearing trousers hmm
You guys don know any thing poverty was the other of the day you can't insult the president o even on social media,no freedom

In as much as you have a good point, how many of this issues did democracy address? Is democracy better, did it achieve better, did it save cost of governance? Everything you mentioned here, democracy has done even worse. On what ground will the people say democracy has done better, let's stick to it? In Nigeria, we are still enjoying infrastructures built by the guys on uniform while the democracy infrastructure is collapsing even before completion or takes ages to complete. We need to critically analyse the situation, its heart breaking.

vyncentino:
well some of you are probably,below 30 so you didn't experience,military regime,because if you do you not talk like this,check your history or Google how Nigeria was before military regime,especially before 1984 buhari took over,see in military regime just know you don't vote your leader o, they appoint to you who ever they like,and you don't argue with them,if you questions their leadership style,the kill the person,nobody can do anything about it o,no courts of justice o,
Every player in the military regime in Nigeria is a millionaire today till date, they all crumble Nigeria economy to their individual pucket, the only man who didn't steal public money
is buhari, that is why he came back as civilians and crumble Nigeria economy,what he fail to do 1984,in military regime you can't carry some hair style o or girl wearing trousers hmm
You guys don know any thing poverty was the other of the day you can't insult the president o even on social media,no freedom

shut the Bleep up. So your democratic leaders are all paupers then I suppose.

Mention a few of those things built by the military, anyways I wish you well with your desire for return to military rule. All I know is that a lot of those asking for military intervention are just camouflaging their intent and wont be doing so if their person has been elected

InvertedHammer:
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Considering the era, most things there are to brag about Lagos was built by the military. What you see are add-ons with huge propaganda budgets.

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Baatunde:
Mention a few of those things built by the military, anyways I wish you well with your desire for return to military rule. All I know is that a lot of those asking for military intervention are just camouflaging their intent and wont be doing so if their person has been elected

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You are judgment is clouded by political affiliation instead of rational thinking. You still cannot point to the benefits of civilian rules over military rules because they are two sides of the same coin. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram didn't exist during those military era. Even now they exist, there is still no freedom of speech in the civilian dispensation. Go figure!

Nobody is calling for a coup. But if it happens, the civilian government won't be missed.

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REDshouse:
No joy ..see as his face be like bonga fish

Ajeh, blood in his eyes.

Rational thinker! Go and read my posts on other threads. I have always maintained that our political system or brand of democracy is flawed and I have cited examples of hereditary monarchies that appears to be working for the Arabs in the Gulf States, so in case you don't know my position on our current political system , there you have it I totally agree that it is not adequate and appears not to be working well for us. Nevertheless, cutting off a head is not the panacea to a severe headache. No system of governance anyhwere is perfect and a civilian regime with all its flaw is still preferred to a military regime. And that probably explains why people like Jerry Rawlings, Ghaddafi and even Saddam Hussein who seized power as military men had to transform into civilian in order to make meaningful impact. So back to the original issue which I still maintain that a lot of those who are asking for military intervention in Nigeria would not do so if their person had won the election, because Nigeria has been in a poor state for at least the tenure of Buhari and no one was asking the military to intervene, now someone is barely three months in power and even before he was sworn in they were carrying placards to Defence Headquarters asking military to intervene. Even to a blind person who is not deaf, it is very clear their agitation was politically motivated.

As to whether there was social media during the previous military regime or not, I think you should ask the families of Kudirat Abiola, Alfred Rewane,Colonel Odeleke and Dele Giwa to mention a few, or all the other NADECO officers whether they were on Twitter of Facebook before they were marked for assassination. Here you are able to call the current President all sorts of unprintable names and even have the audacity to try subtle intimidation of the Judiciary and you say there is no freedom of speech under civilians. Why not read the memoirs of Gani Fawehinmi, Fela Anikulapo, Femi Falana etc so you ll know what freedom of speech was like under the military

InvertedHammer:
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You are judgment is clouded by political affiliation instead of rational thinking. You still cannot point to the benefits of civilian rules over military rules because they are two sides of the same coin. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram didn't exist during those military era. Even now they exist, there is still no freedom of speech in the civilian dispensation. Go figure!

Nobody is calling for a coup. But if it happens, the civilian government won't be missed.

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assholemods:
So to you military take over is the best option for revolution in Africa.

Every countries have their own specificities. Thomas Sankara took power by a coup, yet he is viewed worldwide as a charismatic and iconic figure of revolution all over the world. His goal was to eradicate corruption, fighting environmental degradation, empowering women, increasing access to education and health care, with the larger goal of liquidating imperial domination forever. Unfortunately the French ordered his assassination because he refused to be their puppet.

Baatunde:
Rational thinker! Go and read my posts on other threads. I have always maintained that our political system or brand of democracy is flawed and I have cited examples of hereditary monarchies that appears to be working for the Arabs in the Gulf States, so in case you don't know my position on our current political system , there you have it I totally agree that it is not adequate and appears not to be working well for us. Nevertheless, cutting off a head is not the panacea to a severe headache. No system of governance anyhwere is perfect and a civilian regime with all its flaw is still preferred to a military regime. And that probably explains why people like Jerry Rawlings, Ghaddafi and even Saddam Hussein who seized power as military men had to transform into civilian in order to make meaningful impact. So back to the original issue which I still maintain that a lot of those who are asking for military intervention in Nigeria would not do so if their person had won the election, because Nigeria has been in a poor state for at least the tenure of Buhari and no one was asking the military to intervene, now someone is barely three months in power and even before he was sworn in they were carrying placards to Defence Headquarters asking military to intervene. Even to a blind person who is not deaf, it is very clear their agitation was politically motivated.

As to whether there was social media during the previous military regime or not, I think you should ask the families of Kudirat Abiola, Alfred Rewane,Colonel Odeleke and Dele Giwa to mention a few, or all the other NADECO officers whether they were on Twitter of Facebook before they were marked for assassination. Here you are able to call the current President all sorts of unprintable names and even have the audacity to try subtle intimidation of the Judiciary and you say there is no freedom of speech under civilians. Why not read the memoirs of Gani Fawehinmi, Fela Anikulapo, Femi Falana etc so you ll know what freedom of speech was like under the military

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You didn't get it. Did you?
Back then unless printed, nobody knew.
Now someone in Ukraine can say anything about Tinubu and DSS will be helpless. DSS is still picking people up today like the days of Abacha/IBB. What freedom of speech?
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