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Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by JOemmy(m): 3:10pm On Sep 11, 2023
raskymonojendor:
You can create a thread for that. No one is stopping you. This thread is about the red woolly cap worn by ibos.
I don't have the time for that ur post was clearly made to mock igbos that was why u didn't even bother to do a proper research before rushing to post every tribe borrowed one or two things from other tribes to add to theirs in the course of their advancement I don't see anything wrong with that. Almost every tribe in africa were very primitive and uncivilize including urs before the arrival of the British colonial masters so I don't understand ur point of trying to denegrate other tribes to promote urs. The only tribes that truly have any bragging rights are those that were not colonized not ur yoruba tribe OK.
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Omoawoke2(op): 3:13pm On Sep 11, 2023
ChiefJusticeFuc:
You are right.

The red fez cap that Ibo chiefs wear were originally introduced into Ibo traditional attire by WW1 veterans.

The red fez cap was a standard head gear for the British African Expedition force - an auxillary unit of the allied forces that were deployed not only in WW1 but later in the jungle fronts in Burma in WW2.

Ibo contemporary cultural wear is very recent and dates back to the 1920s to after WW2.

The osigo print was appropriated as cultural wear sometime in the 70s in Ibo meetings outside Ibo land as a cultural uniform of distinction.

Ibo are playing serious catch-up as they had barely any culture prior to British colonial rule
Even the idea of adding feathers to caps was from the British

They just copied and pasted

Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Appletek:
JOemmy:
I don't have the time for that ur post was clearly made to mock igbos that was why u didn't even bother to do a proper research before rushing to post every tribe borrowed one or two things from other tribes to add to theirs in the course of their advancement I don't see anything wrong with that. Almost every tribe in africa were very primitive and uncivilize including urs before the arrival of the British colonial masters so I don't understand ur point of trying to denegrate other tribes to promote urs. The only tribes that truly have any bragging rights are those that were not colonized not ur yoruba tribe OK.
Hey boy, hold it there.
I see what you did there.

The fact that your ancestors were primitive and lacked foresight doesn't mean we all share your misfortune. You should read about the great Bini kingdom and see how foolish you sound.

Bini had the Bini Kingdom
We had the Kanem Borno Kingdom in Arewa
We had the Oyo empire
Mention a single city built by your fathers. Just 1.

Others were building empires, your fathers were stealing caps about, you now want to lump my ancestors with your mediocre fathers as being primitive.
That nonsense won't be tolerated.
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Omoawoke2(op): 3:18pm On Sep 11, 2023
JOemmy:
I don't have the time for that ur post was clearly made to mock igbos that was why u didn't even bother to do a proper research before rushing to post every tribe borrowed one or two things from other tribes to add to theirs in the course of their advancement I don't see anything wrong with that. Almost every tribe in africa were very primitive and uncivilize including urs before the arrival of the British colonial masters so I don't understand ur point of trying to denegrate other tribes to promote urs. The only tribes that truly have any bragging rights are those that were not colonized not ur yoruba tribe OK.
Yorubas were well dressed as far back as anyone could date back.
Go and find out about Yoruba attire. It was not influenced by colonization.
We have aso oke, buba, adire, sokoto etc

Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by JOemmy(m): 3:34pm On Sep 11, 2023
Omoawoke2:
It is degrading wearing a winter cap and your chiefs will be smiling like they wore somehting special.
Drop the slave mentality please, it makes the whites look down on us. How will you adopt a winter cap that your slave masters gifted to you. Please have some honor and identity
This is why I hate engaging in bigotry it makes you unreasonable and very stupid how can you see igbos wearing the winter hat that no one even knows it's real origin as degrading but couldn't even communicate or write with ur own yoruba language but yet have to borrow the language of the British colonial masters to be able communicate to the outside world and u don't see that as also degrading? All ur yoruba leaders and those that are anything in ur land were either trained in the white man's land or acquired western skills to be relevant to ur society non was groomed using ur home grown education so why should any reasonable person waste 10 seconds of his life to argue or take u serious here?.
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by 007kjb: 3:34pm On Sep 11, 2023
Omoawoke2:
Please when you have an answer, I’d be glad.

What was Igbo wearing before colonization

That cap is obviously a winter cap!

The attire is same used in making furniture
Go and SLEEP U DON'T HAVE TALK
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by JOemmy(m): 3:39pm On Sep 11, 2023
Omoawoke2:
Yorubas were well dressed as far back as anyone could date back.
Go and find out about Yoruba attire. It was not influenced by colonization.
We have aso oke, buba, adire, sokoto etc
It still doesn't make ur yoruba tribe anywhere superior to any tribe in nigeria.
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Appletek: 3:42pm On Sep 11, 2023
JOemmy:
It still doesn't make ur yoruba tribe anywhere superior to any tribe in nigeria.
If you say Yorubas are not superior, why are they not crying marginalisation but you are crying marginalisation.

For you to say you are marginalised, someone must be marginalising you. And the marginalisers are people in a superior position of power and influence.
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Omoawoke2(op): 3:48pm On Sep 11, 2023
JOemmy:
This is why I hate engaging in bigotry it makes you unreasonable and very stupid how can you see igbos wearing the winter hat that no one even knows it's real origin as degrading but couldn't even communicate or write with ur own yoruba language but yet have to borrow the language of the British colonial masters to be able communicate to the outside world and u don't see that as also degrading? All ur yoruba leaders and those that are anything in ur land were either trained in the white man's land or acquired western skills to be relevant to ur society non was groomed using ur home grown education so why should any reasonable person waste 10 seconds of his life to argue or take u serious here?.
This really pained you.

If I write Yoruba, would you understand me. English has become an international language. Even non English speaking European countries communicate in English. You won’t see a german speaking german in a public forum. Even Chinese and Indians will communicate in English

So if they are doing cultural day, when others are displaying their history and the richness of their culture, what an Igbo man will wear is a winter cap?

Even the whites don’t wear winter cap as a symbol of their identity
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Omoawoke2(op): 3:49pm On Sep 11, 2023
007kjb:
Go and SLEEP U DON'T HAVE TALK
Tell your Igbo chiefs to stop disgracing blacks. Wearing a winter cap as a symbol of identity is degrading
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by JOemmy(m): 3:55pm On Sep 11, 2023
Appletek:
Hey boy, hold it there.
I see what you did there.

The fact that your ancestors were primitive and lacked foresight doesn't mean we all share your misfortune. You should read about the great Bini kingdom and see how foolish you sound.

Bini had the Bini Kingdom
We had the Kanem Borno Kingdom in Arewa
We had the Oyo empire
Mention a single city built by your fathers. Just 1.

Others were building empires, your fathers were stealing caps about, you now want to lump my mediocre ancestors with yours as being primitive.
That nonsense won't be tolerated.
Argue from now till thy kingdom come it still doesn't change the fact that ur tribe wasn't anywhere superior to other tribes in nigeria that was colonized by the British if ur so called powerful empire was really powerful ur ancestors wouldn't have been overrunned by the British conquerors almost all the ethnic groups in nigeria have some few history of mediocre exploits but where still inferior to the military strength of the British Empire. For me and to any reasonable african the maximum respect and bragging rights should go to the african tribes that successful fought and stopped the colonial masters which I length were the Ethiopians it's not the bini or yoruba empires that easily crumbled when they were attacked by superior British Empire.
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Omoawoke2(op): 4:19pm On Sep 11, 2023
JOemmy:
Argue from now till thy kingdom come it still doesn't change the fact that ur tribe wasn't anywhere superior to other tribes in nigeria that was colonized by the British if ur so called powerful empire was really powerful ur ancestors wouldn't have been overrunned by the British conquerors almost all the ethnic groups in nigeria have some few history of mediocre exploits but where still inferior to the military strength of the British Empire. For me and to any reasonable african the maximum respect and bragging rights should go to the african tribes that successful fought and stopped the colonial masters which I length were the Ethiopians it's not the bini or yoruba empires that easily crumbled when they were attacked by superior British Empire.
You talk too much.

Why is Igbo wearing winter cap?
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Couldntfigurean:
Omoawoke2:
You talk too much.

Why is Igbo wearing winter cap?
the second name for you yoruba people should be propaganda
I won’t be suprised if y’all claim you wore balenciaga before the British arrived

Below are ijebu women from modern days lagos,with flat breast hanging like Nepa wire

Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Couldntfigurean: 4:31pm On Sep 11, 2023
If you follow the mouth of the average Yoruba
You go lost

I don’t expect much from the sons of fallen demons

Cotton isn’t indigenous to Africa and every tribe in Africa at one time wore animal skin before cotton came with the white men and Hausa people due to Islam

Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Couldntfigurean: 4:34pm On Sep 11, 2023
Omoawoke2:
Yorubas were well dressed as far back as anyone could date back.
Go and find out about Yoruba attire. It was not influenced by colonization.
We have aso oke, buba, adire, sokoto etc
These ones below aren’t Yoruba?

All these buba,aso oke etc are the products of colonialism and not Yoruba invention

Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Omoawoke2(op): 4:41pm On Sep 11, 2023
Couldntfigurean:
These ones below aren’t Yoruba?

All these buba,aso oke etc are the products of colonialism and not Yoruba invention
The picture has been bursted. It is not even from Nigeria but South Africa. Zulu people

It’s some igbos like yourself that added ijebu yoruba to it. Yorubas have never dressed like that

Look at their hairstyles fa, which Yoruba hairstyle is like that. Lmao

Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Couldntfigurean: 4:43pm On Sep 11, 2023
Omoawoke2:
The picture has been bursted. It is not even from Nigeria but South Africa. Zulu people

It’s some igbos like yourself that added ijebu yoruba to it. Yorubas have never dressed like that

Look at their hairstyles fa, which Yoruba hairstyle is like that. Lmao
if you like
Call them zelenuiims from Pluto

You yoruba,lying is part of your culture
The ones below are from where?

Saturn I guess

Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Couldntfigurean: 4:46pm On Sep 11, 2023
Omoawoke2:
The picture has been bursted. It is not even from Nigeria but South Africa. Zulu people

It’s some igbos like yourself that added ijebu yoruba to it. Yorubas have never dressed like that

Look at their hairstyles fa, which Yoruba hairstyle is like that. Lmao
where is aso oke and aro and buba on the woman below?
This one is also ijebu,ogun state

Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by JOemmy(m): 4:47pm On Sep 11, 2023
Omoawoke2:
You talk too much.

Why is Igbo wearing winter cap?
Why are you replying me with the white man's language and internet why not yoruba language?
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by DatNiggaDaz: 4:54pm On Sep 11, 2023
raskymonojendor:
That cap has been worn for centuries by the [i] Yorubas Ndigbo prior to the British arriving West Africa.

Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by siofra(f): 4:56pm On Sep 11, 2023
Omoawoke2:
The picture has been bursted. It is not even from Nigeria but South Africa. Zulu people

It’s some igbos like yourself that added ijebu yoruba to it. Yorubas have never dressed like that

Look at their hairstyles fa, which Yoruba hairstyle is like that. Lmao
Lol this is actually a lie. There's a history book in my university, written in the 1920s with this picture in it and the exact same caption and many more. I have graduated now and done clearance and I'm also very busy now, but I would have gone there to take pictures. The book was written by a white man.

I don't know when you people will accept that our forebears wearing very little clothes was actually a very wise thing to do.
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by AfonjaScud: 5:02pm On Sep 11, 2023
tishbite42:
Temperature or weather has nothing to do with caps
You should be more worried that Hausas named you Yaribanzas and you ran with that name
Same way they christened your forefathers as NYANMINRIN.
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by AfonjaScud: 5:04pm On Sep 11, 2023
Omoawoke2:
This thread is seeking clarification on the origin of igbos wearing winter cap as traditional caps. And I am hearing of yaribanza for the first time here on nairaland. But this cap is an identity to the igbos, once you see that red cap, you know it’s igbos.

Even the clothing material is not indigenous to West Africa. So what was the original dressing culture of the igbos before colonization?
None. They copied other people.
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by BeninRefugees: 5:04pm On Sep 11, 2023
AfonjaScud:
Same way they christened your forefathers as NYANMINRIN.
Lol

And banned Yoruba culture in kwara grin
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Omoawoke2(op): 5:04pm On Sep 11, 2023
siofra:
Lol this is actually a lie. There's a history book in my university, written in the 1920s with this picture in it and the exact same caption and many more. I have graduated now and done clearance and I'm also very busy now, but I would have gone there to take pictures. The book was written by a white man.

I don't know when you people will accept that our forrbears wearing very little clothes was actually a very wise thing to do.
Those women are not Yorubas.
You want to rely on history written by white racist who enslaved Africans and treated like animals.
Same whites that kept blacks inside zoo.

Look again, these are not Yoruba women

Look at the hairstyles. Yoruba don’t do this kind of hairstyle.

What is the hairstyle called in Yoruba ?

Even a look at their faces will tell you this aren’t Yoruba women.

Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by siofra(f): 5:05pm On Sep 11, 2023
Couldntfigurean:
If you follow the mouth of the average Yoruba
You go lost

I don’t expect much from the sons of fallen demons

Cotton isn’t indigenous to Africa and every tribe in Africa at one time wore animal skin before cotton came with the white men and Hausa people due to Islam
But there's raffia and kenaf which is native to Africa and is used to weave akwete clothes.
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Omoawoke2(op): 5:06pm On Sep 11, 2023
Couldntfigurean:
where is aso oke and aro and buba on the woman below?
This one is also ijebu,ogun state
They are obviously wearing fabrics.

Go and find out about Aso Oke, it is an indigenous Yoruba clothes centuries before the white men came
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by BeninRefugees: 5:08pm On Sep 11, 2023
YellowBa liars don start Thier propaganda cheesy

This IGR pig 🐖🐷🐖 has entered Igbo cap grin
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by BeninRefugees: 5:09pm On Sep 11, 2023
Omoawoke2:
They are obviously wearing fabrics.

Go and find out about Aso Oke, it is an indigenous Yoruba clothes centuries before the white men came
So is akwaete

Just that it isn't widely worn then
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Omoawoke2(op): 5:12pm On Sep 11, 2023
BeninRefugees:
YellowBa liars don start Thier propaganda cheesy

This IGR pig 🐖🐷🐖 has entered Igbo cap grin
Why do igbos wear winter cap as traditional cap? That’s the question

Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Couldntfigurean: 5:13pm On Sep 11, 2023
siofra:
But there's raffia and kenaf which is native to Africa and is used to weave akwete clothes.
I know that,every tribe at a point we’re naked or wore animal skin
Re: Is This Red Cap Indigenous To Igbo Tradition? by Omoawoke2(op): 5:16pm On Sep 11, 2023
Couldntfigurean:
I know that,every tribe at a point we’re naked or wore animal skin
Every human were once naked, even the whites were once naked

But civilization came very late to the igbos. The Yorubas have long evolved centuries before the igbos came out of bush

When Yorubas were building empires, when oyo empire was thriving, the igbos were still inside bush.

Even Ajayi crowther discovered Onistha and described them as uncivilized

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