Explore2xmore:
What does your Bible verse say? Have you addressed it?

The website you quote is definitely an oddity. Which other sources say Allah has this name amongst the 99?

Which if the two websites are fake?

I can get you more! LOL!!

Is it untrue that Al-Makir is the name of Allah?

TenQ:

From the Bottom of my Heart, I invite you to Know and Trust the Messiah for your salvation.
Ask Questions as Commanded and you will be become free.

I am not interested in your three in one Gods. Your ways I don't even pray for my enemy!

Qur'an 10:94
Now, if you are in doubt concerning what We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Book before you. It is the truth that has come to you from your Lord, so do never become one of those who doubt,

You'll quote verses out of context and later you'll say Muslims are practicing taqqiya! What's the context of this verse?

Are you saying :
Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my mind

Christianity and Christians are falsehood!
You need not have sense to practice them.

TenQ:

What rule was broken?

How would I know. I'm not complaining that you mention me anyway...

I don't even bother to report the children that insults this ancestor on the forum. Who get time for such nonsense?

You may have mentioned someone who doesn't want you to mention his moniker, so I gave him advice to effectively persecute you..

AbuTwins:


Which numbers should I report on?

Numbers ke?

Just click on Report and read through the nairaland constitution. Just choose ya number and persecute our pastor.

correctguy101:


How would I know. I'm not complaining that you mention me anyway...

I don't even bother to report the children that insults this ancestor on the forum. Who get time for such nonsense?

You may have mentioned someone who doesn't want you to mention his moniker, so I gave him advice to effectively persecute you..

No problem!

It's not even the first time my thread has been pulled down for stating things they don't want to be reminded of in their own religion.

TenQ:

No problem!

It's not even the first time my thread has been pulled down for stating things they don't want to be reminded of in their own religion.

See?

I was sure you wouldn't mind.

AbuTwins:
I am not interested in your three in one Gods. Your ways I don't even pray for my enemy!

You'll quote verses out of context and later you'll say Muslims are practicing taqqiya! What's the context of this verse?



Christianity and Christians are falsehood!
You need not have sense to practice them.

You should tell me the context bro!

Anyways, I I mean well for you...as you will hate me with a passion if I did not do my best to warn you that you have swallowed poison that will take you to hell fire guaranteed!

Talking about 3 in one Gods!
I chuckle as your comprehension of spiritual truths is way below average. You boxed God into your image: God is ONE but so is satan.
Whats the difference!?

Let me ask you a simple question!
When Jibril appeared as a perfect man to Mary, did he momentarily stop being an angel?

correctguy101:


See?

I was sure you wouldn't mind.

LOL!

TenQ:

You should tell me the context bro!

I should be the one to explain the context of the verse you quoted? See your life!

Anyways, I I mean well for you...as you will hate me with a passion if I did not do my best to warn you that you have swallowed poison that will take you to hell fire guaranteed!

Your call is an arrogant invitation to the fire. I worship one God. You worship three in one God! You believe in trinity that doesn't exist anywhere in your Bible! Even Christianity is a ruse! Christianity is the poison!

Talking about 3 in one Gods!
I chuckle as your comprehension of spiritual truths is way below average. You boxed God into your image: God is ONE but so is satan.
Whats the difference!?

Spiritual truth my foot!
God is never comparable to any of His creation! Your own God is three not one! That's trinity! Satan has a lots of sons as he's the ancestor of his kind!

Let me ask you a simple question!
When Jibril appeared as a perfect man to Mary, did he momentarily stop being an angel?

Same question you have been throwing around in your previous post you've been mentioning me.

Jubril is a messenger of Allah and Islamically he's the head of the angels the messenger that bring messages to prophets! They are created from light to fulfil whatever duty Allah assign them.

Humans can't see angels in their usual self hence they appear as a normal creation appropriate to human logic when they appear to humans.

That being said, God is not comparable to an Angel to change form to human, enter the womb, pass through the birth canal, cry like a baby, drink breast milk, be protected by his parents, flogged by his enemies till he was killed by them!

This is preposterously incredible!

Allah is not comparable to any of his creations!
Angels are created for their functions!
Humans are created to function as they do!

God is the creator and there's nothing like Him.

AbuTwins:
I should be the one to explain the context of the verse you quoted? See your life!

Your call is an arrogant invitation to the fire. I worship one God. You worship three in one God! You believe in trinity that doesn't exist anywhere in your Bible! Even Christianity is a ruse! Christianity is the poison!

Can you prove that I worship Three Gods?
Even Allah seem to be confused about what the doctrine Trinity means
1. Is Jesus the third of God, The Quran Mary and Himself?
2. Is Allah the Messiah?
What is your reason for every Christian worship just one God.

AbuTwins:

Spiritual truth my foot!
God is never comparable to any of His creation! Your own God is three not one! That's trinity! Satan has a lots of sons as he's the ancestor of his kind!

This is very untrue?
Even Allah compared himself with Baal: true or false?
Mohammed compared Allah with the Dajjal: true or false
Mohammed even compared Allah to a young man in green clothing's and black hair: is this true or false.

It's a mere rhetoric to say Allah is not comparable to anything!

AbuTwins:

Same question you have been throwing around in your previous post you've been mentioning me.

Jubril is a messenger of Allah and Islamically he's the head of the angels the messenger that bring messages to prophets! They are created from light to fulfil whatever duty Allah assign them.

Humans can't see angels in their usual self hence they appear as a normal creation appropriate to human logic when they appear to humans.

That being said, God is not comparable to an Angel to change form to human, enter the womb, pass through the birth canal, cry like a baby, drink breast milk, be protected by his parents, flogged by his enemies till he was killed by them!

This is preposterously incredible!

Allah is not comparable to any of his creations!
Angels are created for their functions!
Humans are created to function as they do!

God is the creator and there's nothing like Him.

The question you've not been able to answer sir. Why?
When Jubril became a perfect man, I did he stop being an angel!?

It is a simple question to which only one Muslim has been able to speak truthfully on it : the rest of you dodge answering!

I am not comparing Allah with any Angel: I am flexing your understanding of Trinity or Duality as you refuse to even understand what is written in your own books.

Are you saying categorically that it is impossible for God to enter into his Creation?

Unfortunately for you word translators and wrong translations how else will Jibril appear to Mary? Can Man bare an angel appearing in it's created form?

Also do you translate فَتَمَثَّلَ لَهَا as perfect man?

You didn't address the biblical verse of God who deceives in your bible. And signed of with the abbreviation for Lucifer o.. l...?

TenQ:

Can you prove that I worship Three Gods?
Even Allah seem to be confused about what the doctrine Trinity means
1. Is Jesus the third of God, The Quran Mary and Himself?
2. Is Allah the Messiah?
What is your reason for every Christian worship just one God.



This is very untrue?
Even Allah compared himself with Baal: true or false?
Mohammed compared Allah with the Dajjal: true or false
Mohammed even compared Allah to a young man in green clothing's and black hair: is this true or false.

It's a mere rhetoric to say Allah is not comparable to anything!


The question you've not been able to answer sir. Why?
When Jubril became a perfect man, I did he stop being an angel!?

It is a simple question to which only one Muslim has been able to speak truthfully on it : the rest of you dodge answering!

I am not comparing Allah with any Angel: I am flexing your understanding of Trinity or Duality as you refuse to even understand what is written in your own books.

Are you saying categorically that it is impossible for God to enter into his Creation?

TenQ:

Which if the two websites are fake?

I can get you more! LOL!!

Is it untrue that Al-Makir is the name of Allah?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bThWd1HgnTY?si=H03xfLLS_Ds--F9c

Explore2xmore:
Unfortunately for you word translators and wrong translations how else will Jibril appear to Mary? Can Man bare an angel appearing in it's created form?

Also do you translate فَتَمَثَّلَ لَهَا as perfect man?

Yes sir.
A Man can bare to see an Angel and this is common with the prophets of Israel.
This is why they always say "Fear Not!" or " Don't be afraid!" when they appear to a mortal.

Did not the hadith say Mohammed saw Jibril in his true form at least twice?
Did he die after?

So, the question is still basic:
When Jibril appeared to Mary as a "perfect man", did he stop being an angel?


I did not translate فَتَمَثَّلَ لَهَا .
"So he appeared to her" in English.
I used the translation of both Pickthall and Yusuf Ali

Explore2xmore:

You didn't address the biblical verse of God who deceives in your bible. And signed of with the abbreviation for Lucifer o.. l...?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bThWd1HgnTY?si=H03xfLLS_Ds--F9c

Why don't you answer my questions?
1. It seems you don't understand that
God can kill without him being a killer!
God can Destroy without being a Destroyer!
God can imprison without being a Jailer!

Herein the Difference!
Allah is the Deceiver (Al-Makir) not one who can decieve!


I asked you a number of questions, please why not respond to them?

Al-Makir is not a name of Allah.
You aren't really asking questions and it appears to me you seek extraneous reasons to comfort the inadequacy of the faith you profess.

Did the angels not adopt the likeness of man in appearing to prophets of old? Did they dine with the prophets as mortals? You sure cannot differentiate between what is and what looks like.

I imagine $100,000.00 will do you some good. Why don't you answer Reno Omokri's poser?

Mr Hadith, we have had discussions on the non absolute of these.

Explain your biblical God deceiving.

Jeremiah 4:10
Then I said, “Ah, Lord God! Surely You have utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, ‘You will have peace’; whereas a sword touches the throat

1 Kings 22:23
Now therefore, behold, the Lord has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and the Lord has proclaimed disaster against you

Does the video lie about Christianity syncretising pagan trinity beliefs?

Is Makir not the grandson of Joseph in your bible?

TenQ:

Yes sir.
A Man can bare to see an Angel and this is common with the prophets of Israel.
This is why they always say "Fear Not!" or " Don't be afraid!" when they appear to a mortal.

Did not the hadith say Mohammed saw Jibril in his true form at least twice?
Did he die after?

So, the question is still basic:
When Jibril appeared to Mary as a "perfect man", did he stop being an angel?


I did not translate فَتَمَثَّلَ لَهَا .
I used the translation of both Pickthall and Yusuf Ali



Why don't you answer my questions?
1. It seems you don't understand that
God can kill without him being a killer!
God can Destroy without being a Destroyer!
God can imprison without being a Jailer!

Herein the Difference!
Allah is the Deceiver (Al-Makir)


I asked you a number of questions, please why not respond to them?

Explore2xmore:
Al-Makir is not a name of Allah.
You aren't really asking questions and it appears to me you seek extraneous reasons to comfort the inadequacy of the faith you profess.

Al-Makir is the name of Allah sir.
Repeating that it is not doesn't change the truth.
I gave you at least two Islamic sites that support my position.

Give me an evidence that Al-Makir is not the name of Allah?

Explore2xmore:

Did the angels not adopt the likeness of man in appearing to prophets of old? Did they dine with the prophets as mortals? You sure cannot differentiate between what is and what looks like.

No Christian will dispute that sometimes Angels appear as Men. But not all the time. When they appear as Angels, the site is scary so that they always have to say "Don't be afraid"! or "Fear Not!"

Your claim is that a man cannot behold an angel in their true form: and I ask.

Did Mohammed died when he saw Jibril in his true form?

Explore2xmore:

I imagine $100,000.00 will do you some good. Why don't you answer Reno Omokri's poser?

None of the words are in the Bible.
It just like if I ask you to fond the word Taoheed in the Quran : does it exist?

Explore2xmore:

Mr Hadith, we have had discussions on the non absolute of these.

Explain your biblical God deceiving.

Jeremiah 4:10
Then I said, “Ah, Lord God! Surely You have utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, ‘You will have peace’; whereas a sword touches the throat

1 Kings 22:23
Now therefore, behold, the Lord has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and the Lord has proclaimed disaster against you

I have explained this to you clearly.
Can Allah kill a man?
Yes!
Is Allah a killer?
No!

This is the explanation except you reject the above!

Explore2xmore:

Does the video lie about Christianity syncretising pagan trinity beliefs?

Is Makir not the grandson of Joseph in your bible?

It is not the first time Satan will try to twist or muddle up the truth: hence the video means nothing. Videos exist where they say there is not God: their claims are inconsequential.

I have asked you about the cali of your God about Trinity (at least he should have a better understanding than people creating content on YouTube)

Can you prove that I worship Three Gods?
Even Allah seem to be confused about what the doctrine Trinity means
1. Is Jesus the third of God, The Quran Mary and Himself?
2. Is Allah the Messiah?
What is your reason for every Christian worship just one God.

Which of these is the true position of Allah and his messanger : then we can talk!


I ask you about what Allah said about trinity

Your wrongly and falsely claiming an attribute of Allah that's not his will never make it so

When they appear as Angels, the site is scary so that they always have to say "Don't be afraid"! or "Fear Not!" Kindly direct to such verses

Taoheed refers to the oneness of Allah and there are numerous verses that state this directly. Not implied or derived

Remind me of this explanation with exact reference to the verses.

Does Allah planning against deceivers make him a deceiver? Do you use your argument to water down your allegation?

Your muddling up verses of the Quran puts a similitude between you and satan are you the same?

You can easily see that not only Christians had a Trinitarian belief/doctrine and Allah says to all not to say or have such belief. Do you think the Quran was sent to just Christians? It was sent to all mankind and jinn.

TenQ:

Al-Makir is the name of Allah sir.
Repeating that it is not doesn't change the truth.
I gave you at least two Islamic sites that support my position.

Give me an evidence that Al-Makir is not the name of Allah?


No Christian will dispute that sometimes Angels appear as Men. But not all the time. When they appear as Angels, the site is scary so that they always have to say "Don't be afraid"! or "Fear Not!"

Your claim is that a man cannot behold an angel in their true form: and I ask.

Did Mohammed died when he saw Jibril in his true form?


None of the words are in the Bible.
It just like if I ask you to fond the word Taoheed in the Quran : does it exist?



I have explained this to you clearly.
Can Allah kill a man?
Yes!
Is Allah a killer?
No!

This is the explanation except you reject the above!


It is not the first time Satan will try to twist or muddle up the truth: hence the video means nothing. Videos exist where they say there is not God: their claims are inconsequential.

I have asked you about the cali of your God about Trinity (at least he should have a better understanding than people creating content on YouTube)

Can you prove that I worship Three Gods?
Even Allah seem to be confused about what the doctrine Trinity means
1. Is Jesus the third of God, The Quran Mary and Himself?
2. Is Allah the Messiah?
What is your reason for every Christian worship just one God.

Which of these is the true position of Allah and his messanger : then we can talk!


I ask you about what Allah said about trinity

Explore2xmore:
Al-Makir is not a name of Allah....
Is Makir not the grandson of Joseph in your bible?

Bible thief!

Makir is not the same as your al makir

It is often used to describe someone sly and dishonest. This is because of the way a makir deceives - they set out to cheat you by deception.

In the bible Joseph's grandson did not deceive any one.

It is in your Bible.

2 Kings 19:10
“Thus you shall say to Hezekiah king of Judah, ‘Do not let your God in whom you trust deceive you saying, “Jerusalem will not be given into the hand of the king of Assyria.”

Isaiah 37:10
“Thus you shall say to Hezekiah king of Judah, ‘Do not let your God in whom you trust deceive you, saying, “Jerusalem will not be given into the hand of the king of Assyria.

Jeremiah 20:7
O Lord, You have deceived me and I was deceived;
You have overcome me and prevailed.
I have become a laughingstock all day long;
Everyone mocks me


Your Bible says so

Dtruthspeaker:


Bible thief!

Makir is not the same as your al makir

It is often used to describe someone sly and dishonest. This is because of the way a makir deceives - they set out to cheat you by deception.

In the bible Joseph's grandson did not deceive any one.

Explore2xmore:
It is in your Bible.

2 Kings 19:10
“Thus you shall say to Hezekiah king of Judah, ‘Do not let your God in whom you trust deceive you saying, “Jerusalem will not be given into the hand of the king of Assyria.”

Isaiah 37:10
“Thus you shall say to Hezekiah king of Judah, ‘Do not let your God in whom you trust deceive you, saying, “Jerusalem will not be given into the hand of the king of Assyria.

Jeremiah 20:7
O Lord, You have deceived me and I was deceived;
You have overcome me and prevailed.
I have become a laughingstock all day long;
Everyone mocks me


Your Bible says so

The bible Said many things BUT IT DID NOT SAY MAKIR, JOSEPH'S GRANDSON IS A DECEIVER AS YOUR AL MAKIR, (THE DECEIVEDR) which is what you said

Explore2xmore:
Your wrongly and falsely claiming an attribute of Allah that's not his will never make it so

When they appear as Angels, the site is scary so that they always have to say "Don't be afraid"! or "Fear Not!" Kindly direct to such verses

Taoheed refers to the oneness of Allah and there are numerous verses that state this directly. Not implied or derived

Remind me of this explanation with exact reference to the verses.

Does Allah planning against deceivers make him a deceiver? Do you use your argument to water down your allegation?

Your muddling up verses of the Quran puts a similitude between you and satan are you the same?

You can easily see that not only Christians had a Trinitarian belief/doctrine and Allah says to all not to say or have such belief. Do you think the Quran was sent to just Christians? It was sent to all mankind and jinn.

This is TenQ
Unfortunately, I received a ban while responding to this post.

I have the screen shots here even though it is inconvenient

@Explore2xmore
The remaining part.

Sorry for the inconvenience. I I will let you know when my ban is over.

I think the problem is the web links

NairaLTQ:
@Explore2xmore
The remaining part.

Sorry for the inconvenience. I I will let you know when my ban is over.

I think the problem is the web links

These verses don't say anything about how the angels look. Can you not back up your statement appropriately?

Explore2xmore:

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These verses don't say anything about how the angels look. Can you not back up your statement appropriately?

Unfortunately for you, you do not even know that there are different classes of Angels.

Trust me, I when you see them, they you will be scared.

Here is Gabriel before Daniel
Dan 10:5-21:
"Then I lifted up my eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz: His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in color to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude. And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell on them, so that they fled to hide themselves. Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength. Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground. And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me on my knees and on the palms of my hands. And he said to me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak to you, and stand upright: for to you am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word to me, I stood trembling. Then said he to me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that you did set your heart to understand, and to chasten yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I am come for your words. But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, see, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. Now I am come to make you understand what shall befall your people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days. And when he had spoken such words to me, I set my face toward the ground, and I became dumb. And, behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men touched my lips: then I opened my mouth, and spoke, and said to him that stood before me, O my lord, by the vision my sorrows are turned on me, and I have retained no strength. For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me. Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me, And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be to you, be strong, yes, be strong. And when he had spoken to me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for you have strengthened me. Then said he, Know you why I come to you? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, see, the prince of Grecia shall come. But I will show you that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holds with me in these things, but Michael your prince."

Here are the Cherubims before Ezekiel

Ezek 10:1-11:
"Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubim there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne. And he spoke to the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill your hand with coals of fire from between the cherubim, and scatter them over the city. And he went in in my sight. Now the cherubim stood on the right side of the house, when the man went in; and the cloud filled the inner court. Then the glory of the LORD went up from the cherub, and stood over the threshold of the house; and the house was filled with the cloud, and the court was full of the brightness of the LORD's glory. And the sound of the cherubims' wings was heard even to the outer court, as the voice of the Almighty God when he speaks. And it came to pass, that when he had commanded the man clothed with linen, saying, Take fire from between the wheels, from between the cherubim; then he went in, and stood beside the wheels. And one cherub stretched forth his hand from between the cherubim to the fire that was between the cherubim, and took thereof, and put it into the hands of him that was clothed with linen: who took it, and went out. And there appeared in the cherubim the form of a man's hand under their wings. And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubim, one wheel by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the wheels was as the color of a beryl stone. And as for their appearances, they four had one likeness, as if a wheel had been in the middle of a wheel. When they went, they went on their four sides; they turned not as they went, but to the place where the head looked they followed it; they turned not as they went."



Here is the Seraphim before Isaiah
Isa 6:1-7:
"In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the LORD sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. Above it stood the seraphim: each one had six wings; with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he did fly. And one cried to another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory. And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke. Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the middle of a people of unclean lips: for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts. Then flew one of the seraphim to me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: And he laid it on my mouth, and said, See, this has touched your lips; and your iniquity is taken away, and your sin purged."



You know nothing sir!

AbuTwins:


Why all these irrelevant mentions?
I think it's time for us to call on the mods

Mods for what? He is just inviting people to the kingdom of God. You too are invited. The mods cannot save you, Jesus will.

MightySparrow:


Mods for what? He is just inviting people to the kingdom of God. You too are invited. The mods cannot save you, Jesus will.

Excellente!



This is TenQ : my main Monica received a needless ban!

MightySparrow:


Mods for what? He is just inviting people to the kingdom of God. You too are invited. The mods cannot save you, Jesus will.

Did Jesus save himself from death?
Same Jesus that ate, fasted and shit like us!

Clap for yourself. However these speak of men appearing like in costume from a Steven King thriller. Seraphim refer to fiery ones, in allusion. This word, in the original, is used elsewhere only of the "fiery serpents" (Numbers 21:6 Numbers 21:8 ; Deuteronomy 8:15 ) sent by God as his instruments to inflict on the people the righteous penalty of sin.

In any case the effect of weakening or loss of strength. Cherubims too are primarily of human form with wings. Are these significantly different from the masquerade costumes hoping it is not a case of the Biblical God deceiving the prophets or Israel or both.

NairaLTQ:

Unfortunately for you, you do not even know that there are different classes of Angels.

Trust me, I when you see them, they you will be scared. Worrisome too that the lord reqiires

Here is Gabriel before Daniel
Dan 10:5-21:
"Then I lifted up my eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz: His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in color to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude. And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell on them, so that they fled to hide themselves. Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength. Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground. And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me on my knees and on the palms of my hands. And he said to me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak to you, and stand upright: for to you am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word to me, I stood trembling. Then said he to me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that you did sedt your heart to understand, and to chasten yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I am come for your words. But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, see, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. Now I am come to make you understand what shall befall your people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days. And when he had spoken such words to me, I set my face toward the ground, and I became dumb. And, behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men touched my lips: then I opened my mouth, and spoke, and said to him that stood before me, O my lord, by the vision my sorrows are turned on me, and I have retained no strength. For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me. Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me, And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be to you, be strong, yes, be strong. And when he had spoken to me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for you have strengthened me. Then said he, Know you why I come to you? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, see, the prince of Grecia shall come. But I will show you that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holds with me in these things, but Michael your prince."

Here are the Cherubims before Ezekiel

Ezek 10:1-11:
"Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubim there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne. And he spoke to the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill your hand with coals of fire from between the cherubim, and scatter them over the city. And he went in in my sight. Now the cherubim stood on the right side of the house, when the man went in; and the cloud filled the inner court. Then the glory of the LORD went up from the cherub, and stood over the threshold of the house; and the house was filled with the cloud, and the court was full of the brightness of the LORD's glory. And the sound of the cherubims' wings was heard even to the outer court, as the voice of the Almighty God when he speaks. And it came to pass, that when he had commanded the man clothed with linen, saying, Take fire from between the wheels, from between the cherubim; then he went in, and stood beside the wheels. And one cherub stretched forth his hand from between the cherubim to the fire that was between the cherubim, and took thereof, and put it into the hands of him that was clothed with linen: who took it, and went out. And there appeared in the cherubim the form of a man's hand under their wings. And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubim, one wheel by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the wheels was as the color of a beryl stone. And as for their appearances, they four had one likeness, as if a wheel had been in the middle of a wheel. When they went, they went on their four sides; they turned not as they went, but to the place where the head looked they followed it; they turned not as they went."



Here is the Seraphim before Isaiah
Isa 6:1-7:
"In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the LORD sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. Above it stood the seraphim: each one had six wings; with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he did fly. And one cried to another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory. And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke. Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the middle of a people of unclean lips: for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts. Then flew one of the seraphim to me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: And he laid it on my mouth, and said, See, this has touched your lips; and your iniquity is taken away, and your sin purged."



You know nothing sir!

AbuTwins:


Did Jesus save himself from death?
Same Jesus that ate, fasted and shit like us!

Mark 4:11-12
[11]And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
[12]That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

Explore2xmore:
Clap for yourself. However these speak of men appearing like in costume from a Steven King thriller. Seraphim refer to fiery ones, in allusion. This word, in the original, is used elsewhere only of the "fiery serpents" (Numbers 21:6 Numbers 21:8 ; Deuteronomy 8:15 ) sent by God as his instruments to inflict on the people the righteous penalty of sin.

In any case the effect of weakening or loss of strength. Cherubims too are primarily of human form with wings. Are these significantly different from the masquerade costumes hoping it is not a case of the Biblical God deceiving the prophets or Israel or both.

Beings with wings are human!?

I see!

Even in defeat, you keep on struggling the gaggle of death!
Khai!

AbuTwins:


Did Jesus save himself from death?
Same Jesus that ate, fasted and shit like us!

What a lame argument!

What is death?
Annihilation!?

Isn't death a transition from the physical to the spiritual space?

Your ignorance baffles me!

TenQ:

What will you do when you see your friend and brother cooking poisonous Mushroom Soup with which he intends to eat Amala.

Will you keep quiet even after he tells you he does not believe that his mushroom can kill.

As a nice AntiChristian, would you leave him to face the consequence of his acclaimed conviction?

If it's my friend of course taking poison is haram!
But if it's a Christian I will show him Mark 16:17-18, so that we may test if he believes in what he professes!

And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not harm them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will be made well.”

NairaLTQ:

What a lame argument!

What is death?
Annihilation!?

Isn't death a transition from the physical to the spiritual space?

Your ignorance baffles me!

You're more ignorant!

Jesus can't save himself.
He is not omniscient!

He said it himself truly!