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favor914:
The major madness of stupidity been exhibited by this ignorant Things, is the idea that because Tinubu presented a certificate (called a “diploma” in America) to INEC that didn’t emanate from Chicago State University, whose registrar affirmed under oath that Tinubu graduated from there, he has committed forgery in the legal sense of the term.

That thinking betrays ignorance of the American university system—and results from people using their limited Nigerian lenses to refract an American phenomenon that’s beyond their experiential reality.

In America, the diploma is the printed version—or fixed extension—of a graduation ceremony. It’s merely ceremonial and can be tweaked or individualized by anyone without legal consequences.

It betrays a stupendous poverty of legal and logical imagination to say that the “forgery” (unauthorized redesign is a better expression) of a non-legally-binding ceremonial document of a validly earned degree invalidates the degree.

It’s never mentioned in CSU’s diplomas that alteration of the documents renders them invalid because they have no validity beyond being decorative documents.

You find that kind of language here only on transcripts. On Tinubu’s CSU transcript, for instance, we find such legal language twice.

The left-hand side of the transcript says, “Explanatory legend and authenticity confirmation information on back.” On the right-hand side, it says, “THIS RECORD IS NOT OFFICIAL UNLESS IT BEARS A SIGNATURE AND SEAL OF THE UNIVERSITY.”

duroCTBEGA:
Some people's brain like that cTBEGGAr duro4chang just be like decoration on a Christmas tree

Broveens42:
Stop deceiving yourself. The illegality in the American system stem from the fact, Bola A Tinubu an American citizen, didn't collect his certificate according to the deposition, so how did he replace what he didn't collect?

Your president has severally denied having dual citizenship, that in itself is an admittance of impersonation.

favor914:
Go & explain that to The Supreme Court of Nigeria, maybe they may consider your statement & reduce the record fines.

favor914:
I wouldn’t blame you a bunch, your misconstrued imagination exhibits gross ignorance of the American university system—and results from people using their limited Nigerian lenses to refract an American phenomenon that’s beyond their experiential reality.

bentenny:
Then you were not supposed to get involved in a discus that doesn't concern you esp when you don't have evidence to back your claim that CSU claimed in the deposition that third party vendors printed Tinubu's certificate!
If you don't know ask someone in your WhatsApp group to refer you to that number in the deposition!
I also want to learn....

Broveens42:
We are having a decent conversation. Don't always feel intimidated when you submissions devoid of vagueness.
I'm stating it as it is in the deposition.
He's an American citizen who didn't collect his certificate, how did he replace what he didn't collect. Is impersonation also legal in the United States since Bola Tinubu says he has no dual citizenship.

favor914:
You sound as ignorant as Malu Abubakar Atiku, Like I said initially I wouldn’t blame you a bunch, if you had schooled in the United States, or you know anyone that indeed really schooled in the US, you wouldn’t be this shallow minded ignorant.

Broveens42:
What do you mean by being shallow?
Can't you comprehend simple English?
I'm asking, what is legal about an American citizen replacing a certificate he didn't collect according to the deposition?

Draslo:
I'm talking to you not Atiku's lawyers. Can't you think for yourself?

favor914:
Waste his time on a worthless certificate, on his return to Nigeria, did Tinubu not work for the American oil conglomerate Mobil Oil, retiring in 1991 as their Treasurer, If the certificate was that important, why didn’t Mobil Oil request for it?

Who told you that Tinubu is an American citizen?, Yet em they apply for Yankee visa from Embassy?

favor914:
Atiku that did the phishing has submitted his leaflet from Illinois to the Supreme Court of Nigeria?

Hope you have saved some money to contribute to the record fines that will be imposed on him, & his protege Gringory Obi, not all this Empty Barrel narrative on social media, put your money, where you mouth is.

Draslo:
Come, how many times do you want them to tell you the certificate in Yankee is ceremonial?? Why do you think some people don't pick theirs up? It's not like Nigeria where we place importance on only certificate thereby allowing forgery of university certificates for employment. Have you ever heard of anyone completing their university education in Nigeria but not picking up their certificate? The major reason Tinubu's education is under scrutiny is because he helped fight for democracy against a military tyrant and had to run away into a self imposed exile.


Some people's brain just be like decoration on a Christmas tree

Broveens42:
What do you mean by being shallow?
Can't you comprehend simple English?
I'm asking, what is legal about an American citizen replacing a certificate he didn't collect according to the deposition?

oyichi:
he issue between atiku and tinubu is no longer new to Nigerians both home and abroad, but one man that calls himself senior advocate of Nigerian has been going about with a very foolish narrative of a third party vendor, imagine a lawyer in a law court telling the judges that his client got his certificate from outside the school, he will be asked to explain what forgery is, he will have to tell the court who the third parties are and wthere they are located, he will also have to telll the court which particular vendor gave his client the certificate he is parading, pls and pls, don't let festus keyamo get anywhere near the court on that day, he is just lending Credence to atiku and his lawyers with stupidity

Broveens42:
The deposition says Bola A. Tinubu, the bearer of the certificate is an American citizen.
All these things you are shouting here doesn't still answer the question because people do work in multinational companies without verifiable certificates in Nigeria. It's always for the highly connected, however, you are advised to update your records while working in case your godfather is no longer charge.

The question is, what's legal about an American citizen, replacing a certificate he didn't collect?