I thinkmoney3000 am an Israelite. I do not hoard nuclear weapons that can destroy God’s Earth.
Jesus the prince of peace is my eternal King and he does not throw bombs. I do not know the King of this modern contraption that says it is Israel.🤷🏿‍♂️

Sorry you are not isreal or israelite but stupid and idiot Africa who doesn't his root.

Meagainstthem:
Sorry you are not isreal or israelite but stupid and idiot Africa who doesn't his root.

Well, you may not be a Christian so you do not understand my perspective. I belong to a spiritual Israel the very one Christians mistake this modern physical Israel with.
I am not IPOB that wants to link themselves with physical Israel.
Maybe the proper section for this my piece should have been religion section.

Question

Meagainstthem:
Sorry you are not isreal or israelite but stupid and idiot Africa who doesn't his root.

Colonialism na bad thing oo.

tamonokare:


Colonialism na bad thing oo.

Nah real bad thing

thinkmoney:

Well, you may not be a Christian so you do not understand my perspective. I belong to a spiritual Israel the very one Christians mistake this modern physical Israel with.
I am not IPOB that wants to link themselves with physical Israel.
Maybe the proper section for this my piece should have been religion section.

You have nothing with either physical isreal or spiritual Israel,you are an Africa man and it's better you retrace your step.

Aside drugs another strong thing that can make someone deluded is religion….

Meagainstthem:


You have nothing with either physical isreal or spiritual Israel,you are an Africa man and it's better you retrace your step.

This things are beyond u.
U may need some further study with an open mind.

thinkmoney:
I thinkmoney3000 am an Israelite. I do not hoard nuclear weapons that can destroy God’s Earth.
Jesus the prince of peace is my eternal King and he does not throw bombs. I do not know the King of this modern contraption that says it is Israel.🤷🏿‍♂️

Islamic terrorists will come to feats on you.

Predictably, they're already up there.

Their terrorist prophet sowed a bitter hatred between them and the Jews,; that's why the idiots don't want to see anywhere the name "Isreal" or 'Jews' is mentioned.

thinkmoney:

This things are beyond u.
U may need some further study with an open mind.

You are the confused soul here,you have nothing to do with some imaginary christ.

Meagainstthem:


You are the confused soul here,you have nothing to do with some imaginary christ.

I see I tell u u need to study more. If u really study u would know that there are more proofs that christ existed more than even Julious Cesear and Ramsees

thinkmoney:

I see I tell u u need to study more. If u really study u would know that there are more proofs that christ existed more than even Julious Cesear and Ramsees

Nothing like christianity exist because it's a known fact that both bible God and Quran God are clueless,if you argue further you will have to explain some bible verses here.

Meagainstthem:


Nothing like christianity exist because it's a known fact that both bible God and Quran God are clueless,if you argue further you will have to explain some bible verses here.

Please I am ready to explain those verses

Meagainstthem:


Nothing like christianity exist because it's a known fact that both bible God and Quran God are clueless,if you argue further you will have to explain some bible verses here.

Please I am waiting? Inching to show u that like many, even Christians today, u do not have full understanding of things and/or you do not understand context surrounding things

thinkmoney:

Please I am waiting? Inching to show u that like many, even Christians today, u do not have full understanding of things and/or you do not understand context surrounding things

Okay first question is when did your god created satan?before genesis chapter 1 vs 1 or after?

Meagainstthem:


Okay first question is when did your god created satan?before genesis chapter 1 vs 1 or after?

Perfect. In Genesis1:1 it says in the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth. Genesis in itself is not the beginning but a narration of the earliest of time. It says heaven [heaven we know is spiritual place populated by angels) was created and then Earth.
From verse two then it became specific about the creation of the Earth.
To buttress this point further in job 38:1-7, where you see angels shouting joyfully when they observed the creation of the earth. They were created first.
Since it’s established now that angels where created [first], we then understand from the Bible that Satan was a lead Angel. He became Devil [which mean resister] and Satan when he rebelled against God

thinkmoney:

Perfect. In Genesis1:1 it says in the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth. Genesis in itself is not the beginning but a narration of the earliest of time. It says heaven [heaven we know is spiritual place populated by angels) was created and then Earth.
From verse two then it became specific about the creation of the Earth.
To buttress this point further in job 38:1-7, where you see angels shouting joyfully when they observed the creation of the earth. They were created first.
Since it’s established now that angels where created [first], we then understand from the Bible that Satan was a lead Angel. He became Devil [which mean resister] and Satan when he rebelled against God

So if I get you correctly satan was created before genesis 1 right?

Meagainstthem:


So if I get you correctly satan was created before genesis 1 right?

Genesis is a book that tells the story of how the earth was created. It was written about 2/3 thousand years after the first man Adam.
Satan like other angels witnessed the creation of the Earth

thinkmoney:

Genesis is a book that tells the story of how the earth was created. It was written about 2/3 thousand years after the first man Adam.
Satan like other angels witnessed the creation of the Earth

Fine,we are getting there,did satan rebel before creation of earth,during creation of earth or after creation of earth?according to your bible reference.

Meagainstthem:


Fine,we are getting there,did satan rebel before creation of earth,during creation of earth or after creation of earth?according to your bible reference.

Great question. It appears he rebelled before the creation of man. I do not know if it’s before the creation of the earth

thinkmoney:

I see I tell u u need to study more. If u really study u would know that there are more proofs that christ existed more than even Julious Cesear and Ramsees

which proof?

thinkmoney:

Great question. It appears he rebelled before the creation of man. I do not know if it’s before the creation of the earth

Is there any other sin greater than the one committed by satan according to your scriptures? moreover you didn't give reference to the last question and I see that you are not so sure of when he committed the crime.well attend to the bold side before we proceed

Meagainstthem:


Is there any other sin greater than the one committed by satan according to your scriptures? moreover you didn't give reference to the last question and I see that you are not so sure of when he committed the crime.well attend to the bold side before we proceed

I will not be specific on things the Bible isn’t specific about. However, my answers will be in line with the scriptures.
I think the Devil have rebelled before the creation of man because he was there at Eden as the Devil. I am not sure though if he have rebelled even before the creation of the earth itself.
Now, I think there is no sin greater than Satans

thinkmoney:

I will not be specific on things the Bible isn’t specific about. However, my answers will be in line with the scriptures.
I think the Devil have rebelled before the creation of man because he was there at Eden as the Devil. I am not sure though if he have rebelled even before the creation of the earth itself.
Now, I think there is no sin greater than Satans

Where can we read about the greatest sin committed against God according to bible?because I think such sin should be documented for human being to read,as imperfect as Nigeria history is,we can still find some history about first military coup,first civilian war we have,don't you think your God deserve to document the greatest sin for us so we can learn?

thinkmoney,I'm still waiting for you,I want to learn all the mystery in bible

Meagainstthem:


Where can we read about the greatest sin committed against God according to bible?because I think such sin should be documented for human being to read,as imperfect as Nigeria history is,we can still find some history about first military coup,first civilian war we have,don't you think your God deserve to document the greatest sin for us so we can learn?

Hi, I trust u are good. I haven’t had the time to type because I know my reply will be a bit lengthy. But please go on with all your questions.
We can fathom out the type of Satan’s sin from is names; one, Satan itself when it’s used for the superintendent demon means The resister. And Devil too means The slanderer.
The earliest recorded sin of Satan is the one he committed in Eden in which he deceived Adam and Eve against Gods admonition and made them Sin and susceptible to death. He became a liar, a trickster and a Killer here. And he got a judgement for this sin.
Also, all his other recorded activities and Sin were in accordance to the meaning of his name. He slandered God to Jacob, in a place he was said to be the “accuser of the brethren”, he resisted an Angel over Moses body, he tried to resist Daniel and he attempted deceiving Jesus himself.
I will want you to go through these bible passages that I am going to leave here. They collaborate all what I have pointed out: At John 8:44, Jesus said that the Devil “did not stand fast in the truth,” implying that Satan had at one time been truthful and guiltless.
1 John 3:8
8 The one who practices sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the [beginning]. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, to break up the works of the Devil.
John 8:44
44 You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie. THIS VERY VERSE HIGHLIGHTED CLEARLY THE SIN HE COMMITTED IN THE BEGINNING WHICH LYING AND KILLING.
Genesis 3:14,15
14 Then Yahweh God said to the serpent: “Because you have done this, you are the cursed one out of all the domestic animals and out of all the wild animals of the field. On your belly you will go, and you will eat dust all the days of your life. 15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head,s and you will strike him in the heel.”

In Revelation we are giving a clear illustration of how effective Satan is at deception. He was said to successfully bring down 1/3 of the Angels in Heaven with him.
He in many places in the Bible was shown to be a disruptor, somebody that wants the worship that should be a sole right of God,a thief, a liar and a destroyer

Meagainstthem:
thinkmoney,I'm still waiting for you,I want to learn all the mystery in bible

Hi, I trust u are good. I haven’t had the time to type because I know my reply will be a bit lengthy. But please go on with all your questions.
We can fathom out the type of Satan’s sin from is names; one, Satan itself when it’s used for the superintendent demon means The resister. And Devil too means The slanderer.
The earliest recorded sin of Satan is the one he committed in Eden in which he deceived Adam and Eve against Gods admonition and made them Sin and susceptible to death. He became a liar, a trickster and a Killer here. And he got a judgement for this sin.
Also, all his other recorded activities and Sin were in accordance to the meaning of his name. He slandered God to Jacob, in a place he was said to be the “accuser of the brethren”, he resisted an Angel over Moses body, he tried to resist Daniel and he attempted deceiving Jesus himself.
I will want you to go through these bible passages that I am going to leave here. They collaborate all what I have pointed out: At John 8:44, Jesus said that the Devil “did not stand fast in the truth,” implying that Satan had at one time been truthful and guiltless.
1 John 3:8
8 The one who practices sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the [beginning]. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, to break up the works of the Devil.
John 8:44
44 You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie. THIS VERY VERSE HIGHLIGHTED CLEARLY THE SIN HE COMMITTED IN THE BEGINNING WHICH LYING AND KILLING.
Genesis 3:14,15
14 Then Yahweh God said to the serpent: “Because you have done this, you are the cursed one out of all the domestic animals and out of all the wild animals of the field. On your belly you will go, and you will eat dust all the days of your life. 15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head,s and you will strike him in the heel.”

In Revelation we are giving a clear illustration of how effective Satan is at deception. He was said to successfully bring down 1/3 of the Angels in Heaven with him.
He in many places in the Bible was shown to be a disruptor, somebody that wants the worship that should be a sole right of God,a thief, a liar and a destroyer

thinkmoney:

Hi, I trust u are good. I haven’t had the time to type because I know my reply will be a bit lengthy. But please go on with all your questions.
We can fathom out the type of Satan’s sin from is names; one, Satan itself when it’s used for the superintendent demon means The resister. And Devil too means The slanderer.
The earliest recorded sin of Satan is the one he committed in Eden in which he deceived Adam and Eve against Gods admonition and made them Sin and susceptible to death. He became a liar, a trickster and a Killer here. And he got a judgement for this sin.
Also, all his other recorded activities and Sin were in accordance to the meaning of his name. He slandered God to Jacob, in a place he was said to be the “accuser of the brethren”, he resisted an Angel over Moses body, he tried to resist Daniel and he attempted deceiving Jesus himself.
I will want you to go through these bible passages that I am going to leave here. They collaborate all what I have pointed out: At John 8:44, Jesus said that the Devil “did not stand fast in the truth,” implying that Satan had at one time been truthful and guiltless.
1 John 3:8
8 The one who practices sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the [beginning]. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, to break up the works of the Devil.
John 8:44
44 You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie. THIS VERY VERSE HIGHLIGHTED CLEARLY THE SIN HE COMMITTED IN THE BEGINNING WHICH LYING AND KILLING.
Genesis 3:14,15
14 Then Yahweh God said to the serpent: “Because you have done this, you are the cursed one out of all the domestic animals and out of all the wild animals of the field. On your belly you will go, and you will eat dust all the days of your life. 15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head,s and you will strike him in the heel.”

In Revelation we are giving a clear illustration of how effective Satan is at deception. He was said to successfully bring down 1/3 of the Angels in Heaven with him.
He in many places in the Bible was shown to be a disruptor, somebody that wants the worship that should be a sole right of God,a thief, a liar and a destroyer

I'm good and you?I appreciate your time and civility,but all your write up didn't answer my question,according to genesis 3 from verse 1 to 4

Genesis chapter 3

1Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘you must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4“You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

As you can see from above that satan has already rebelled against God before this verse,if you agreed it means all the you quoted came later and this came first,that lead back to my first question,how did satan rebel against God?what sin did he committed?where can we read the greatest committed against God by one of his creature?I think we need to know what satan did before we started crucifying him?incase you miss the question,here is it again


1 what sin did satan committed again God before he cast him down

2 where can we read about such story from

3 Dont you think such grievous sin should be documented.


Thanks

Meagainstthem:

I'm good and you?I appreciate your time and civility,but all your write up didn't answer my question,according to genesis 3 from verse 1 to 4



As you can see from above that satan has already rebelled against God before this verse,if you agreed it means all the you quoted came later and this came first,that lead back to my first question,how did satan rebel against God?what sin did he committed?where can we read the greatest committed against God by one of his creature?I think we need to know what satan did before we started crucifying him?incase you miss the question,here is it again


1 what sin did satan committed again God before he cast him down

2 where can we read about such story from

3 Dont you think such grievous sin should be documented.


Thanks

Highlight to me the part that made him out as a rebel before his deceit in those verses you quoted.

thinkmoney:

Highlight to me the part that made him out as a rebel before his deceit in those verses you quoted.

He was casted down when rebel,he disguised as serpent to deceive eve,he wasn't on earth before he came to earth,if you said no,it mean he has rebelled before the creation of heaven and earth

Meagainstthem:


He was casted down when rebel,he disguised as serpent to deceive eve,he wasn't on earth before he came to earth,if you said no,it mean he has rebelled before the creation of heaven and earth

Well u just quoted some verses that has nothing to do with your claim.
Nothing in the Bible say angels can’t move around. In fact we have several instances where angels came to earth for several reasons.
Nothing there in Genesis speculates that Satan was on earth because he had been cast down. In fact the record suggest otherwise. Even years after devils rebellion in Eden, he was still able to go to heaven even to the very presence of God.
Bible points to the fact that Devil was cast down with his rebel angels much more later.