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Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by mrvitalis(m): 8:51am On Nov 07, 2023
naptu2:
Not a single word in your post has anything to do with my post.

1) Who gives a shit whether it was PDP, APC, Labour Party or QRX? What does that have to do with my post?

2) What the hell does its economic viability have to do with my post??

Is it a railway line and is it in the South-South??
People say APC has no rail project in South South....

You said warri rail

APC hasn't done a single rail project in South East but South East has a rail system

How is this hard to grab or you just being clever by half
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Chetas81(m): 8:51am On Nov 07, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
The Chinese should support us in the aspect of transmitting this lights too. We are not transmitting everything we're generating.

Tinubu administration must make sure Lagos is connected with sokoto, and Maiduguri is connected with PH by railway line before he leaves in 2031.
We're on this dream since 1960, which were now celebrate 63 year's of independent, what do you want to achieve from now until 2031, fraudulent mentality won't allow it to happen
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by mrvitalis(m): 8:53am On Nov 07, 2023
Soltix9y:
I think it's 98% of the containers that end up in the south east not 70% as u said.
Bros its not my saying

Below are the people who said it... They said 65% sorry I said 70%

If you know more than them publish your own stat

Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by BoldBrainz(m): 8:53am On Nov 07, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
Started what again? Abeg it's too early to remind Nigerians of the locust years of HE Goodluck Jonathan.
Your disdain for Goodluck Jonathan is so repulsively obvious in the way you castigate his person and blatantly lie about his legacies in government. Yet when it's convenient for Yoruba clowns like you, you covet the Niger Delta region and propagate rhetorics of a brotherhood that doesn't exist.

You've been lying about GEJ on nairaland and I'll keep calling you out. He laid the foundation for the railway network that Buhari built on. He even commenced the payments for the rail infrastructure and manpower, and your hate cannot change that.
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Keme4Real(f): 8:54am On Nov 07, 2023
Thank you China, our new overlords and masters. Not sure if you will do better than our former slave masters Britain but we are happy to sell out to you all the same. even though it means taking loans that will keep us indebted to you forever. It's the new world order and Nigeria is ready to continue kissing butts in the international community.
Welcome to China.
China chon chin chon chin chin
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Ikaeniyan0: 8:54am On Nov 07, 2023
Chetas81:
We're on this dream since 1960, which were now celebrate 63 year's of independent, what do you want to achieve from now until 2031, fraudulent mentality won't allow it to happen
Your opinion
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by naptu2(op): 8:54am On Nov 07, 2023
You see, people like Mrvitalis are only interested in partisan and sectarian nonsense. Nowhere in the first post or in my subsequent post was any political party mentioned. The thread is about infrastructure that was built by the Chinese in Nigeria. All he has been yapping about is APC, PDP, QRX. What the hell does that have to do with the thread??

Telling me about people said bla bla bla.
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Shikena(m):
We already had 55 years of independence before APC with all sorts of academic theories. We have been building people and we have always had trains, roads, water plants, fire setvices etc even before independence. What exactly was built that was not needed?

mrvitalis:
APC is actually doing development upside down really there problem is fundamental

You build the people then infrastructure follows not build infrastructure first

If you build infrastructure first what would happen is the people would be too poor to patronize those infrastructure which would make them to be subsidized and would make maintenance difficult causing the infrastructure to fail.... Sounds familiar?

Step one raise revenue ( natural resources, borrow, tax anyhow)

Step two invest in your people ( education, soft credit, access to machinery, access to advanced tools , improved seedlings, simplified and low interest loans easily accessible etc)

Step three, your people grow rich start demanding infrastructure they know they can afford... Then you tax the and build infrastructure


This is how development works.. You don't build what is not needed
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by RepoMan007: 8:59am On Nov 07, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
Started what again? Abeg it's too early to remind Nigerians of the locust years of HE Goodluck Jonathan.
dormant projects used to loot.
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by latonione: 9:00am On Nov 07, 2023
You sent them packing with indigenization decree of 1979; your greedy elite group who want replace the white.
casualobserver:
Meanwhile it is America and UK that Nigerians worship and suck up to. What have the Americans and British done in Nigeria? In life, Know your true friends by those who will invest in your prosperity in your dreams and not those who give you handouts and entrench dependency.
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by kolexy(m): 9:17am On Nov 07, 2023
mrvitalis:
So this is what APC and their people see as Nigeria? No South East?? Not even South South?

I really want to see how Lekki sea ports would function.... We are waiting to see how it would work

For Lekki port to function it must be allowed to receive every type of cargo... For that to work the law must change

Most people dont understand what i mean ...
Right now you can only import certain things through certain ports

Onne can only do machinery and cars with few others

Textile must come through tincan and apapa

Pharmaceutical and chemicals must come through apapa not even tincan is allowed to handle them

For Lekki port to work all ports have to be made equal and if all ports are equal since 70% of all containers end up in South east what would be the point of using Lagos port?
The Lekki port is a Lagos state government led and private sector funded project.
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Khyrvxjzy: 9:18am On Nov 07, 2023
mrvitalis:
So this is what APC and their people see as Nigeria? No South East?? Not even South South?

I really want to see how Lekki sea ports would function.... We are waiting to see how it would work

For Lekki port to function it must be allowed to receive every type of cargo... For that to work the law must change

Most people dont understand what i mean ...
Right now you can only import certain things through certain ports

Onne can only do machinery and cars with few others

Textile must come through tincan and apapa

Pharmaceutical and chemicals must come through apapa not even tincan is allowed to handle them

For Lekki port to work all ports have to be made equal and if all ports are equal since 70% of all containers end up in South east what would be the point of using Lagos port?
what are you saying bro

am part of those people you said wont understand what you are saying
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Khyrvxjzy: 9:21am On Nov 07, 2023
mrvitalis:
Firstly that was a PDP project and was 90+% completion when APC took over

And yes it a very useless project have little or no economic viability we don't need such now at all
do someone hack this account
bro you do make sense before but now na hatred be this ooo
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Khyrvxjzy: 9:23am On Nov 07, 2023
mrvitalis:
You wasted money on trains? Trains that can't break even?

Yes railway infrastructure is good important for economic development... But they are notoriously unprofitable..

So it makes no sense why Nigeria should borrow to build railways it's economic stupidity

You use borrowed money to do things that can generate enough money to pay back it's loan
you are right

but interstate train is not profitable but intercity like lagos is profitable the only interstate that will be profitable should be for cargo
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Khyrvxjzy: 9:27am On Nov 07, 2023
naptu2:
Not a single word in your post has anything to do with my post.

1) Who gives a shit whether it was PDP, APC, Labour Party or QRX? What does that have to do with my post?

2) What the hell does its economic viability have to do with my post??

Is it a railway line and is it in the South-South??
mrvitalis
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by DOptical: 9:31am On Nov 07, 2023
China really tried for Nigeria.
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Chetas81(m): 9:32am On Nov 07, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
Your opinion
OF COURSE THIS IS NIGERIA
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Vision101(m): 9:36am On Nov 07, 2023
@mrvitalis


This is how development works.. You don't build what is not needed.

@me
So rail transport is not needed? Check the amount of revenue generated by the lagos-Ibadan rail line within few months of commissioning.
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Richfella1(m): 9:40am On Nov 07, 2023
mrvitalis:
For Lekki port to work all ports have to be made equal and if all ports are equal since 70% of all containers end up in South east what would be the point of using Lagos port?
My good friend, please where did you get this stat?

I am a fellow Igbo man and just looking to learn.

From a quick Google search, the South East makes up roughly 18% of the population.
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by BentizilL0: 9:55am On Nov 07, 2023
mrvitalis:
Firstly that was a PDP project and was 90+% completion when APC took over

And yes it a very useless project have little or no economic viability we don't need such now at all
One day, bad belle go just eliminate you...

Shameless loser...
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by casualobserver: 9:57am On Nov 07, 2023
latonione:
You sent them packing with indigenization decree of 1979; your greedy elite group who want replace the white.
1. Indigenization decree was not passed in 1979, Gowon left office in 1975.

2 so why are the Chinese here building airports rail, ports, roads?

Ignoramus!
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by mrvitalis(m): 10:10am On Nov 07, 2023
Richfella1:
My good friend, please where did you get this stat?

I am a fellow Igbo man and just looking to learn.

From a quick Google search, the South East makes up roughly 18% of the population.

Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by mrvitalis(m): 10:11am On Nov 07, 2023
Vision101:
@mrvitalis


This is how development works.. You don't build what is not needed.

@me
So rail transport is not needed? Check the amount of revenue generated by the lagos-Ibadan rail line within few months of commissioning.
Please tell us how much

Lagos Ibadan rail at its present revenue can not maintain itself
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by mrvitalis(m): 10:12am On Nov 07, 2023
Khyrvxjzy:
you are right

but interstate train is not profitable but intercity like lagos is profitable the only interstate that will be profitable should be for cargo
Well not at the price they charge in Lagos
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by mrvitalis(m): 10:14am On Nov 07, 2023
Shikena:
We already had 55 years of independence before APC with all sorts of academic theories. We have been building people and we have always had trains, roads, water plants, fire setvices etc even before independence. What exactly was built that was not needed?
Nigeria has never built it's people
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by mrvitalis(m): 10:14am On Nov 07, 2023
kolexy:
The Lekki port is a Lagos state government led and private sector funded project.
And so?
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by mrvitalis(m): 10:15am On Nov 07, 2023
Khyrvxjzy:
what are you saying bro

am part of those people you said wont understand what you are saying
What exactly don't u understand?
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Irony1: 10:41am On Nov 07, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
Started what again? Abeg, o ji shaaro, it's too early to remind Nigerians of the locust years of HE Goodluck Jonathan.
Oga be quiet jare. GEJ started it
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Ttipsy(f): 11:02am On Nov 07, 2023
SS/SE no longer Nigeria?

You are crossing belt ?
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by PARADIZEPRIEST: 11:14am On Nov 07, 2023
belt and road,the day china will ask for their money,you people better have it o! shocked
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Simeonjoe1: 11:16am On Nov 07, 2023
Khyrvxjzy:
do someone hack this account
bro you do make sense before but now na hatred be this ooo
Well after the election everybody changed...
Me excluded
Re: Railways Along The Belt And Road: Megaprojects Transforming Nigeria by Simeonjoe1: 11:22am On Nov 07, 2023
Khyrvxjzy:
you are right

but interstate train is not profitable but intercity like lagos is profitable the only interstate that will be profitable should be for cargo
You don't look at the profitability but overall economic effects.
I've said and argued it here before that 99% of trains constructed in the whole world doesn't recover their profit.
That's why most time no private entity engage in train construction but it's usually due to government loans and intervention.

Train profitability is not looked on the myopic lens of direct profit NO, but on the overall effect on transit efficiency, better bulk movement of goods, crude, gas, steel. Opening up of free trade zones around different districts etc
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