₦airaland Forum

Vision101:
@mrvitalis


This is how development works.. You don't build what is not needed.

@me
So rail transport is not needed? Check the amount of revenue generated by the lagos-Ibadan rail line within few months of commissioning.

Simeonjoe1:
Lagos to ibadan is not maximized.
It's solely used for passenger transport

mrvitalis:
Nigeria has never built it's people

casualobserver:
Meanwhile it is America and UK that Nigerians worship and suck up to. What have the Americans and British done in Nigeria? In life, Know your true friends by those who will invest in your prosperity in your dreams and not those who give you handouts and entrench dependency.

mrvitalis:
The passenger transport is limited because it makes no economic sense

You are time limited compared to bus
More expensive compared to bus

Only people who normally fly would find it attractive... And those are the numbers you need to improve first

Simeonjoe1:
Lagos to ibadan is not maximized.
It's solely used for passenger transport

Shikena:
Speak for yourself sir. The train works very well for me and thousands of people. The question is if you have personally ever boarded any of the trains? Are your comments factual or just stuff you manufactured in your head for argument sake? How can you say the train is used by those who normally fly? Really?? Regular people are using the trains because of other factors that also affect their pocket. The roads are unpredictable for several reasons including erratic drivers and other road users and you may end up spending more money!

I have used Lagos-Abeokuta-Ibadan train several times. It makes perfect sense to me. I know exactly when my train takes off and I know when it arrives at the destination so I make my business plans around that. Also, they are not limited to the current time schedule as they will increase these in due course. What is important is that they have started this important service and they are doing very well.

Shikena:
Those who studied medicine by paying less than $100 a year for medical education in Nigeria and now earning over $250,000 a year in the western world were NEVER built by Nigeria?
Those who studied engineering and other courses paying the same amount and are all over the world contributing meaningfully were never built by Nigeria?
Those who were eating full chicken for lunch as students at UNILAG, UI, Ife, Nsukka & Zaria in their days while paying practically nothing were built by which country?

We dropped the ball big time. No excuse. We let selfishness rule and we gradually allowed our space to be dominated by people of weak value system but to say Nigeria has never built its people is not true.

Igboslayer:
Hahahahahaha, when you sought out your Biafra madness first, then development will come. South South is getting attention already the Ajaokuta railroad to Aladja has been completed too.

We gave you a new Niger bridge, the biggest bridge ever constructed across the Niger. Una need some sense for that region and some resetting slap every morning.

mrvitalis:
Do you even know what it means to build people? If you don't know ask


Less than 3 million Nigerians have gone for NYSC

My school UNN he admitted just 200k plus people and it's both the oldest and one of the highest admission capacity in Nigeria

If you want to know what it means to build people ask

mrvitalis:
I have not boreded the train their revenue statement is enough to make my assumptions

The cost is online
Lagos to Ibadan bus price is online

I have all the data I need

mrvitalis:
APC is actually doing development upside down really there problem is fundamental

You build the people then infrastructure follows not build infrastructure first

If you build infrastructure first what would happen is the people would be too poor to patronize those infrastructure which would make them to be subsidized and would make maintenance difficult causing the infrastructure to fail.... Sounds familiar?

Step one raise revenue ( natural resources, borrow, tax anyhow)

Step two invest in your people ( education, soft credit, access to machinery, access to advanced tools , improved seedlings, simplified and low interest loans easily accessible etc)

Step three, your people grow rich start demanding infrastructure they know they can afford... Then you tax the and build infrastructure


This is how development works.. You don't build what is not needed

Shikena:
I know the meaning of BUILDING PEOPLE and the meaning of NEVER. What I don't know is your definition of NEVER.

Simeonjoe1:
You don't look at the profitability but overall economic effects.
I've said and argued it here before that 99% of trains constructed in the whole world doesn't recover their profit.
That's why most time no private entity engage in train construction but it's usually due to government loans and intervention.

Train profitability is not looked on the myopic lens of direct profit NO, but on the overall effect on transit efficiency, better bulk movement of goods, crude, gas, steel. Opening up of free trade zones around different districts etc

Simeonjoe1:
Well after the election everybody changed...
Me excluded

Khyrvxjzy:
you are right
but if i have money i wish to go into train lagos to ibadan berger to iwo road

Shikena:
Cargo is already in operation.

mrvitalis:
The passenger transport is limited because it makes no economic sense

You are time limited compared to bus
More expensive compared to bus

Only people who normally fly would find it attractive... And those are the numbers you need to improve first

Simeonjoe1:
Moving goods or people?
How profitable will it be?
You're not a government so indirect profit via tax won't get to your pocket

naptu2:
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2023-10-29/Railways-Along-the-Belt-and-Road-Megaprojects-transforming-Nigeria-1nJ7KMCD6Mw/index.html

FreeStuffsNG:
Started what again? Abeg, o ji shaaro, it's too early to remind Nigerians of the locust years of HE Goodluck Jonathan.