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Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by garfield1: 9:38pm On Nov 14, 2023
Bobloco:
I have no hatred for Tinubu and I don't have any reason to

But the truth remains and be said at all times.
The truth remains that obi failed to prove anything.atiku came close but did so wrongly and late
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by garfield1: 9:38pm On Nov 14, 2023
asanausana91:
being realistic is to say the truth no matter what. Just look at how deliberate this rigging is done. If they can succeed in making our election one the worst election in the world, who told you that the other channels you are suggesting is not destroyed by the same people.
Who said it is rigging?
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by asanausana91: 9:41pm On Nov 14, 2023
garfield1:
Did you ask this ques when it favoured pdp in osun? Even Mike igini came and defended it.why not ask ict specialists why it is so
I don't fcking care about any party. I only supported a candidate. Mr man, this is the reason why this damn country is going backwards. The right thing should be done.
We were all hopeful when INEC president told us that election results will be transmitted electronically from the polling unit. But after the election we got a different thing entirely.
Look, I have taken a decision that no member of my family will participate in an election that the results will not be technically transmitted.
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by garfield1: 9:41pm On Nov 14, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
This thing you keep saying again and again is not what I am asking.
That's not my question.

Nevertheless, I won't ask it again.
So relax bro.

Someone else who understands my question better will respond to me.


Meanwhile,, thanks for attempting to give me a good response.
Bury this issue one.stop crying more than the bereaved and aggrieved...go and get a bvas machine to scrutinize and stop this nonsense
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by Bobloco: 9:42pm On Nov 14, 2023
garfield1:
The truth remains that obi failed to prove anything.atiku came close but did so wrongly and late
Good you acknowledged that Atiku proved, now tell me how did the court ruled
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by Pythagoras001: 9:44pm On Nov 14, 2023
i made a post earlier about this. political parties and nigerians have to insist that inec make the source code used for the bvas and irev publicly available everyone should inspect it to understand what it does and check for vulnerabilities. their has to be a process for each political parties to be sure of the binaries loaded into bvas and irev. one can only just speculate how the bvas works. from my observation i think it is possible for a backdoor where inec staffs can manually change accreditation data values
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by garfield1: 9:49pm On Nov 14, 2023
Bobloco:
Good you acknowledged that Atiku proved, now tell me how did the court ruled
Atiku did not prove anything but he tried better than obi.unfortunately,he failed to file his case at the tribunal and now decided to file it illegally at the apex court.you can't tack illegality with illegality son
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by garfield1: 9:51pm On Nov 14, 2023
asanausana91:
I don't fcking care about any party. I only supported a candidate. Mr man, this is the reason why this damn country is going backwards. The right thing should be done.
We were all hopeful when INEC president told us that election results will be transmitted electronically from the polling unit. But after the election we got a different thing entirely.
Look, I have taken a decision that no member of my family will participate in an election that the results will not be technically transmitted.
Oga that elections were not transmitted electronically doesn't mean it is not original.what the inec chairman says does not count but what the law provides for
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by fergie001(mod): 9:52pm On Nov 14, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
Litigator, Penguin2..
Please,, are there any logical explanations to the above??

Like,, put the IREV aside..

What if there is actually a higher number of Accredited Voters in the Physical BVAS for the Polling-unit,, but what the Presiding Officer
in the Polling-unit recorded inside the Results-sheets were somehow very low,, could there be any logical reason for this??
The reason we should have PU agents.

If that happens, it is obvious the PO has tampered with it. What you have in BVAS with respect to accreditation should be what needs to be entered into Form EC8A.
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by BluntCrazeMan(op): 10:01pm On Nov 14, 2023
fergie001:
The reason we should have PU agents.
That one is very well noted.



If that happens, it is obvious the PO has tampered with it. What you have in BVAS with respect to accreditation should be what needs to be entered into Form EC8A.
Now...
Assuming that you were INEC,, could there be any logically clean reason or excuse for such a discrepancy to occur??
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by BluntCrazeMan(op): 10:03pm On Nov 14, 2023
fergie001:
The reason we should have PU agents.

If that happens, it is obvious the PO has tampered with it. What you have in BVAS with respect to accreditation should be what needs to be entered into Form EC8A.
This cannot be regarded as Over-voting in the real sense of it..
But then,, what should we call it.??
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by Bobloco: 10:04pm On Nov 14, 2023
garfield1:
Atiku did not prove anything but he tried better than obi.unfortunately,he failed to file his case at the tribunal and now decided to file it illegally at the apex court.you can't tack illegality with illegality son
In one breathe, Atiku came close, in another breathe he proved nothing

There's nothing like he tried to file it illegally.

For pete's sake, we are talking about the office of the president of Nigeria and sanctity of that office. the evidence Atiku presented are weighty and an uncompromised judge should have looked at its merit not throwing it out entirely and hiding under "He should have filled it at the tribunal"
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by asanausana91: 10:07pm On Nov 14, 2023
garfield1:
Oga that elections were not transmitted electronically doesn't mean it is not original.what the inec chairman says does not count but what the law provides for
keep quiet pls. You are part of the problem of this country. The beautiful part is that tomorrow it will be your turn. Is a shame that people like you wasted your parents money in schools. You are seeing evil act in front of you but you refused to call a spade a spade.
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by BluntCrazeMan(op): 10:42pm On Nov 14, 2023
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Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by BluntCrazeMan(op): 10:44pm On Nov 14, 2023
Racoon..
Please look at this and drop your own opinion abbegg.

BluntCrazeMan:
From the previous thread..
INEC Denies Alleged Manipulation Of Data On IREV In Kogi Election.
https://www.nairaland.com/7911026

In the previous thread, INEC explained that:
“The BVAS automatically exports the accreditation data to the Accreditation Backend System (ABS)....
“The same experience applies to a situation where more than one BVAS gadget is used at a polling unit with more than 1,250 registered voters....
“At the close of poll, Presiding Officers are expected to press the data exportation button on the BVAS to ensure that all the accreditation data are exported to the ABS....
“This process, referred to as synchronization and which is ongoing, could lead to changes in the accreditation figures as more data flow in to update the existing figures.”



Meanwhile, in some polling units - especially those in ORU-WEST LGA in Imo State,, there are some polling units where the number of Accredited Voters are far far higher than “the number of Accredited Voters which the Presiding Officer wrote on the official results sheet (EC8As) for the same polling unit.”
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This one is very confusing abbegg.!!
We need INEC to come and explain this one too...
At-least, with the explanations from the INEC, we will all be on the same page as to what really happened in these polling units...
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BluntCrazeMan:
Are there any logical reasons or explanations to the above scenario which exonerates INEC??

Like,, let us put the IREV aside in this whole issue...

So, what if there is actually a higher number of Accredited Voters in the Physical BVAS for the Polling-unit,, but what the Presiding Officer in the Polling-unit recorded inside the Results-sheets (EC8A) was somehow very low,, could there be any logical reason for this??
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by garfield1: 11:19pm On Nov 14, 2023
asanausana91:
keep quiet pls. You are part of the problem of this country. The beautiful part is that tomorrow it will be your turn. Is a shame that people like you wasted your parents money in schools. You are seeing evil act in front of you but you refused to call a spade a spade.
Which evil act? Will you shut up there boy? Atiku your master was rubbished,better borrow shame and get lost
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by garfield1: 11:24pm On Nov 14, 2023
Bobloco:
In one breathe, Atiku came close, in another breathe he proved nothing

There's nothing like he tried to file it illegally.

For pete's sake, we are talking about the office of the president of Nigeria and sanctity of that office. the evidence Atiku presented are weighty and an uncompromised judge should have looked at its merit not throwing it out entirely and hiding under "He should have filled it at the tribunal"
Oga,atiku evidence actually had some substance but it was too late in the day.there are laws governing filing of cases,submission of evidences.if you flout these laws,your case is dead.only a compromised judge will ignore these illegalities and entertain your case.how can you refuse to file a case and the tribunal and then want to sneak it in at the supreme court? That is judicial madness son.it is settled law that any case not filed at the lower court cannot be entertained at the apex court.ofcourse dumb obidients won't know this
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by garfield1: 11:26pm On Nov 14, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
That one is very well noted.




Now...
Assuming that you were INEC,, could there be any logically clean reason or excuse for such a discrepancy to occur??
The logical resolution lies in inspecting the bvas son
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by fergie001(mod):
BluntCrazeMan:
This cannot be regarded as Over-voting in the real sense of it..
But then,, what should we call it.??
I now understand where you are headed.

What they simply did was pre-fill Form EC8As which they had access to and wait for the POs. That one with small numbers are the genuine numbers the POs accredited, whilst the pre-filled ones are the ones they uploaded to IReV.

They also have someone who can tamper with those machines, because they were obviously tampered with.

I don't know which PU in Imo or Owerri you had over 300 voters, even in the strongholds of the Candidates.

Even in Orsu LGA, where out of fear of violence, people didn't come out.... I was seeing figures, that's crazy!

It is still INEC that shows politicians how to cut corners.

Just to add, until someone is used as a scapegoat, this cycle will continue.
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by Pythagoras001: 12:13am On Nov 15, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
when did you take the image? seems like the value decreased to match the number in one of your images

Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 1:16am On Nov 15, 2023
garfield1:
Inec explained it in the last two paragraphs.result upload is instantaneous while accreditation upload takes days or weeks...but if you aren't satisfied,go to court
The corrupt court hijacked by Apc?
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by Badb0y4lyf(m): 2:02am On Nov 15, 2023
Guys ignore Garfield and other APC bigot’s and let’s have an intellectual discussion as to how this could occur it’s effect and the judiciary position
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by BluntCrazeMan(op): 4:46am On Nov 15, 2023
Pythagoras001:
when did you take the image? seems like the value decreased to match the number in one of your images
This picture you showed me, it just confirmed my suspicion..
That the accreditation figure on the IREV is not automatically generated.
If it was automatically generated,, then it should be going up only... It shouldn't come down.


So,, INEC should come back again and tell us why the value came down.

Meanwhile,, the photo you showed me is more recent. It was done on 14th November.
The one I showed earlier was captured on the 13th of November.

So,, as time went up, number of accredited voters disappeared??

Like Garfield1 earlier said,, the BVAS must be inspected this time around.

But then,, I still don't trust the INEC..
They will still go and tamper with the BVAS machines naa...
These people are really very desperate in their deeds..

With this amount of tampering with the IREV-Portal, it still boils to my earlier suggestion:
“The IREV should be shut down, since it is irrelevant in the process of collation”


Fergie001..
Now,, come and see this new development.
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:18am On Nov 15, 2023
garfield1:
The logical resolution lies in inspecting the bvas son
Guy..
INEC can tamper with the BVAS too..
And they are currently tampering with it.
Yess..
From what we are seeing,, it is very possible.

A forensic inspection of the BVAS is needed after-all..
(Not just physical inspection)
Any BVAS that has any input that is not on the 11th of November 2023 has to be totally discarded...


Then again...
INEC already love giving reasons and excuses.
As we could see already..
So,, let them come out as always,, and give reasons and/or excuses for this one too..

The question is...
What reason or excuse will INEC give in order to explain this??

So, stop going round the question, and be saying that inspection of BVAS will solve all this., because that's not the answer to the question..
And INEC definitely wouldn't come out to give that as an excuse.


Then,, as for you, whenever I ask questions like this,, they are rhetorical most of the time.
Their answers are already there inside the questions..
They don't require any more responses.
So,, don't come to show yourself.
Just read them and ignore them and move on.

But if you must try to answer them,, be truthful about your response..
At least, I can clearly see your points and discuss them further.
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:25am On Nov 15, 2023
fergie001:
I now understand where you are headed.

What they simply did was pre-fill Form EC8As which they had access to and wait for the POs. That one with small numbers are the genuine numbers the POs accredited, whilst the pre-filled ones are the ones they uploaded to IReV.

They also have someone who can tamper with those machines, because they were obviously tampered with.

I don't know which PU in Imo or Owerri you had over 300 voters, even in the strongholds of the Candidates.

Even in Orsu LGA, where out of fear of violence, people didn't come out.... I was seeing figures, that's crazy!

It is still INEC that shows politicians how to cut corners.

Just to add, until someone is used as a scapegoat, this cycle will continue.
Now Garfield1..

You can also respond to this submission.
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by KillahPriest: 8:44am On Nov 15, 2023
Under the agbadorian eldorado, it has been one explanation and excuses for one absurdity and catastrophe after another. It is well cool
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:49am On Nov 15, 2023
INEC Continued Changing the Accreditation data..

Now, after they took it up,, they are bringing the values down again.

Synchronization my-foot.!!

Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:51am On Nov 15, 2023
INEC Continued Changing the number of Accredited Voters on the IREV..

Now, after they finished taking the figures up,, they are now bringing the values down again.

Synchronization my-foot.!!

Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by asanausana91: 8:51am On Nov 15, 2023
garfield1:
Which evil act? Will you shut up there boy? Atiku your master was rubbished,better borrow shame and get lost
is you sound stupid. Are you not ashamed of yourself?
Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by BluntCrazeMan(op): 8:54am On Nov 15, 2023
Continuation of the fraud.

Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by BluntCrazeMan(op): 9:01am On Nov 15, 2023
Now,, it can be confirmed without doubts...
That IREV is a biigg Joke.

They shouldn't have deployed it in the first place.

Re: Situations Where IREV Accreditation Is Far Greater Than Accreditation In Result. by BluntCrazeMan(op): 9:03am On Nov 15, 2023
The IREV Joke continues...

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