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socialmediaman:
Responding to your CNN statement.

CNN is not an American propaganda network, It's a big news organization that is considered by many as liberal/moderate leaning, meaning it leans towards democrats. We all have biases, what matters is whether your bias is factual (fact-based) or not.

That being said, guess what, 66% of muslims in the US are democrats and more than half of US democrats consider themselves liberal. Not to suggest that CNN is favoring anyone, but they presented both Israel's evidence as well as Hamas claims in the report you shared.

The report also clearly stated that CNN team was shown guns and explosives beneath the hospital

I never said it was an American propaganda network ... but I can argue it is. I said it was Israel's main avenue of spreading propaganda. What Democrats and Muslims have to do with this matter I have no clue. We can have our own biases.... including media personnel which I'm sure they have .... but the content put out by a good network #ought to be unbiased and balanced. CNN has reporters embedded in the IDF to get the Israeli view of the conflict .... do they try to get the Hamas side of the conflict? The CNN team was shown guns and explosives beneath the hospital .... does that mean Hamas put them there? ... or how else could they possibly be there? Try opening the windows of your mind and be a critical thinker.

Originalsly:
I never said it was an American propaganda network ... but I can argue it is. I said it was Israel's main avenue of spreading propaganda. What Democrats and Muslims have to do with this matter I have no clue. We can have our own biases.... including media personnel which I'm sure they have .... but the content put out by a good network #ought to be unbiased and balanced. CNN has reporters embedded in the IDF to get the Israeli view of the conflict .... do they try to get the Hamas side of the conflict? The CNN team was shown guns and explosives beneath the hospital .... does that mean Hamas put them there? ... or how else could they possibly be there? Try opening the windows of your mind and be a critical thinker.

Not to mention that the Israelis vet all CNN content before they report them

[quote author=Originalsly post=126973460][/quote]Let me start from here. I have to adjust my earlier comment and also add clarification since you added some clarification.

I never said it was an American propaganda network ... but I can argue it is. I said it was Israel's main avenue of spreading propaganda. What Democrats and Muslims have to do with this matter I have no clue.

I disagree. I have watched interviews where Israeli spokespersons pushed back on what seemed to be "probing" or "unfriendly" questions posed by CNN reporters.

What do democrats and muslims have to do with this matter? This makes my earlier comment relevant.

CNN like I mentioned earlier is democrat leaning. Most muslims are democrats, mostly left leaning democrats. When you hear about protests in the US against Israel? It's mostly democrats. Just like when you hear about protests condemning police brutality against blacks? It's mostly democrats.

In fact, Senate Democrats just blocked a $14 billion aid package for Israel which was proposed by Republican senators. The bill successfully passed the republican controlled house, but failed to pass the democrat controlled senate.

Are you making the connection now on why I disagree that CNN is a propaganda network for Israel? The democratic liberal leaning base is protesting against Israel, and like I mentioned earlier, CNN is considered by many as democratic-leaning. I expect them to balance their reporting by presenting the evidence from Israel, and also the counter claim from Hamas.

Compare CNN to a network like Fox News who is largely pro Israel. In fact their republican base is 79% pro Israel.

We can have our own biases.... including media personnel which I'm sure they have .... but the content put out by a good network #ought to be unbiased and balanced. CNN has reporters embedded in the IDF to get the Israeli view of the conflict .... do they try to get the Hamas side of the conflict? The CNN team was shown guns and explosives beneath the hospital .... does that mean Hamas put them there? ... or how else could they possibly be there? Try opening the windows of your mind and be a critical thinker.

Israel showed CNN some tunnels, guns and explosives which they said was used by Hamas used to launch rockets and all that. Their robot also found a bulletproof explosive-proof door in the tunnel.

Let's step back a minute and review this claim. There is documented evidence that Hamas uses civilians as human shields, and launches operations from worship places, schools and hospitals. In fact, when Israel warned residents to evacuate during this war, Hamas told them to stay back.

I have looked through the documented evidence, and it makes sense what Hamas is doing. They're endangering the lives of Gaza people in order to fight a propaganda war. It makes sense why they don't want residents to relocate to safety while they're fighting with Israel. It makes sense why they launch rockets from hospitals, schools, and worship places. It makes sense that they want people to be killed so that they can show these people on TV in order to appeal to the emotions of people from the international community, people like you.

IMEI:
That's the hospital's elevator shaft

If you don't believe me, simply Google elevator shafts and compare with this picture


Have you ever seen a Hamas tunnel to know what it looks like?

Lol this man is just everywhere defending his fellow terrorist

misreal:
you want me to reason with you after implying that I am brainless.
Listen to me,no matter what you say,hamas is going down.
Israel will bomb the living day light out of Gaza.
If you like,be supporting people who are holding innocent people hostage and calling themselves freedom fighters.
See the stupid video you are using as a proof that israel is lying sef,after watching the video,I can now confirm thAt you are brainless.


I’d rather not have a brain than have your kind of brain.

The joke is on you

Stop wasting your time on that bloody terrorist. They are the same everywhere

Error401:
Lol, ignorance is a disease. Even after giving you an open field to watch the video and use your own brain to make a judgement. You resorted in calling names and not willing to learn. as long as it suits your hypocrisy, its true. Thats not the right way to think. No one who chose to be ignorant moves forward

so it's now you want have brain and reason well, when it comes to suporting tinubu, you will throw your useless brain away

Lol, you are such a dunce! Me wey be Tinubu Number one Enemy. You need a brain check bro, you are lost in the reality.

nonhuman:
so it's now you want have brain and reason well, when it comes to suporting tinubu, you will throw your useless brain away

Going forward - Islam 101

Killing all Palestinians or all Muslims is not the end

“Verily we belong to Allah, and truly to Him shall we return”

"Every soul shall taste death....."

They have been killing them for over 70 years. There is nothing Zionists are doing now that is any different. You are just ignorant and late to the party.


We are not going to see Hamas as the devil. Yes, they are holding people hostage. Keep that hate burning!

misreal:
you want me to reason with you after implying that I am brainless.
Listen to me,no matter what you say,hamas is going down.
Israel will bomb the living day light out of Gaza.
If you like,be supporting people who are holding innocent people hostage and calling themselves freedom fighters.
See the stupid video you are using as a proof that israel is lying sef,after watching the video,I can now confirm thAt you are brainless.
I’d rather not have a brain than have your kind of brain.

The joke is on you

Sterope:
Going forward - Islam 101


They have been killing them for over 70 years. There is nothing Zionists are doing now that is any different. You are just ignorant and late to the party.


We are not going to see Hamas as the devil. Yes, they are holding people hostage. Keep that hate burning!

and we are going to see Israel as the devil ba?
Your hatred for Israel will not stop them from destroying Hamas.
Israel has been killing palestines is the propaganda you choose to believe without verifying.
You will soon say israel is the occupying force because the land belongs to palestines..
Netanyahu is a good man walahi,if I was the prime minister by now gaza would have been toast by now..
You go cry tire las las

Sterope:
People like you are dangerous. This obsession with Hamas is what evil people do. You are evil. Spinning tales tickle your fancy like you won't taste death too.

Like I stated yesterday, May you experience 100-fold of what Palestine is going through! On earth or judgment day!

and may you experience what hamas did to Israeli on the 7th of October.
No one has the monopoly of terrorizing people.
When israel is done with Gaza,you go cry naked

I am seeing that you are a Christian and you have no idea what Christian Europe played in part.

They HATED Jews. They WANTED them out of their lands. America saved Jews and Zionists. I don't know if your ignorant ass knows the history of black people in the US. Jews had a similar history in Europe, maybe not as gruesome, gruesome nonetheless. Their issue was their RELIGION, not skin colour.

Shakespeare's book, merchant of Venice was written out antisemitism. Out of many reasons they hated Jews, which included crucifixion of Jesus. Interest on loans was forbidden for Christians back in those days, just as it is for Muslims. Jews engaged in Riba(Interest) which made them wealthy and gave them a stereotype of being greedy and they HATED and PERSECUTED them for demanding their money back.


So this sudden support for Zionism is borne to of hatred for Muslims. Not like you give a Bleep about Jews.

misreal:
I don’t have a brain sir.
You wey get brain dey use am support terrorist.
I’d rather be brainless than have your kind of brain.
Peace

Since history didn't start on Oct 7th, you have to restate that curse for it to be hurtful.

misreal:
and may you experience what hamas did to Israeli on the 7th of October.
No one has the monopoly of terrorizing people.
When israel is done with Gaza,you go cry naked

[oloriburuku Omo iya keferiquote author=misreal post=126967388]Very soon they will come and tell us that israel is committing genocide.
Meanwhile these fools are hiding under human shields.
How can they be a ceasefire when they can be completely annihilated[/quote]

Sterope:
Since history didn't start on Oct 7th, you have to restate that curse for it to be hurtful.

And history began 70yrs ago ba?
Make UNA dey deceive UNA self..

Sterope:
I am seeing that you are a Christian and you have no idea what Christian Europe played in part.

They HATED Jews. They WANTED them out of their lands. America saved Jews and Zionists. I don't know if your ignorant ass knows the history of black people in the US. Jews had a similar history in Europe, maybe not as gruesome, gruesome nonetheless. Their issue was their RELIGION, not skin colour.

Shakespeare's book, merchant of Venice was written out antisemitism. Out of many reasons they hated Jews, which included crucifixion of Jesus. Interest on loans was forbidden for Christians back in those days, just as it is for Muslims. Jews engaged in Riba(Interest) which made them wealthy and gave them a stereotype of being greedy and they HATED and PERSECUTED them for demanding their money back.


So this sudden support for Zionism is borne to of hatred for Muslims. Not like you give a Bleep about Jews.

so I shouldn’t support Zionism,I should support terrorism.
Support whoever you want to support,but make sure whoever you are supporting is strong enough to survive the current onslaught

Kazeemabiodun:
[oloriburuku Omo iya keferiquote author=misreal post=126967388]Very soon they will come and tell us that israel is committing genocide.
Meanwhile these fools are hiding under human shields.
How can they be a ceasefire when they can be completely annihilated

Hamas are currently trying hide,you are here fighting for them.

I forgot to mention this.

You see Abraham was Arab (He is Iraqi). He is the grandfather of Israel where the Jewish faith stemmed from.

Are you connecting the dots already? If you draw a straight line from Israel to the present day, guess where you will find the descendants that would be genetically closer to Israel.

Certainly not from the 100% Europeans claiming their ancestors lived in Palestine 200 years ago
OR from Black Jews that were imported from Ethiopia

You are looking at Palestinian Christians and Jews darling, so bomb away.

Jesus is coming!

misreal:
and may you experience what hamas did to Israeli on the 7th of October.
No one has the monopoly of terrorizing people.
When israel is done with Gaza,you go cry naked

When did history start?

misreal:
And history began 70yrs ago ba?
Make UNA dey deceive UNA self..

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Sterope:
I forgot to mention this.

You see Abraham was Arab (He is Iraqi). He is the grandfather of Israel where the Jewish faith stemmed from.

Are you connecting the dots already? If you draw a straight line from Israel to the present day, guess where you will find the descendants that would be genetically closer to Israel.

Certainly not from the 100% Europeans claiming their ancestors lived in Palestine 200 years ago
OR from Black Jews that were imported from Ethiopia

You are looking at Palestinian Christians and Jews darling, so bomb away.

Jesus is coming!

you were making sense until you said 100percent Europeans.
What scientific studies has shown that the people in present day israel are 100percent Europeans?
This is the lie you chose to believe,and because you believe this lie,you think the Jews should return Jerusalem to the Arabs.
Meanwhile,archeological findings has shown that the land belong to the Jews.
There is nothing you can do to fight these findings other than bringing your hard scientific discovery too,not some sentimental noise of the present day Jews being hundred percent Europeans.

Sterope:
When did history start?

Before the Jews migrated to Europe where was their home?
Did every Jew migrated from their homeland to Europe?
Answer these two questions and let’s see if you know anything about Jerusalem

Before I answer your questions, you have to answer mine?

1. It was the home of Jews. Jew as in the faith. Some of them migrated over 2000 years ago. Some didn't.

2. Not all Jews migrated from their land. We call them Palestinians Jews. There are other ones spread across the Arab world before Mossad used fear to eject them from their homes.

2. Religion is like every other religions, there are converts eveywhere. People change religions all the time.





Now answer my questions

1. I am Muslim. Am I entitled stop Saudi Arabia citizenship because of faith?

2. My greatgreatgrandparents were from Ogbomosho. Can I return to Ogbomosho and claim the land?

3. Are you as a Christian, entitled to Jerusalem or Jerusalem citizenship if that were possible because you believed in Jesus Christ?

4. Should white people on the basis of their faith claim a land in the middle East?

5. Give me 5 Zionist members that can point to a landmark in Palestine/Israel and tell you where their ancestors graves and homes were?

6. Do Jewish converts have a right to Palestinian land on the basis of their faith?

7. How long was this?

8. Can descendants of Yoruba or of Igbos slaves AND those who converted to paganism in South America lay a claim over Igbo or Yoruba lands because we used to pagans?

misreal:
Before the Jews migrated to Europe where was their home?
Did every Jew migrated from their homeland to Europe?
Answer these two questions and let’s see if you know anything about Jerusalem

Lmao. I can see you are following me.

That attention you seek to placate your miserable existence.You will not get it from me.


Go ahead and quote 100 times everyday for the next 50 years. YOU WILL NOT GET IT. Ciao!

thunderfireyour:
ode history start today trailer jam you jam your papa jam your mama jam your born and unborn children

misreal:
you were making sense until you said 100percent Europeans.
What scientific studies has shown that the people in present day israel are 100percent Europeans?
This is the lie you chose to believe,and because you believe this lie,you think the Jews should return Jerusalem to the Arabs.
Meanwhile,archeological findings has shown that the land belong to the Jews.
There is nothing you can do to fight these findings other than bringing your hard scientific discovery too,not some sentimental noise of the present day Jews being hundred percent Europeans.

It's a bitter pill to swallow for many Arabs and muslims, but ancient jews owned the land called Israel/Palestine today. The land was once called the land of Judah, an ancient Jewish tribe. Yes, it belonged to ancient jewish tribe of Judah.

Before British rule of Palestine, many previous empires ruled the area, including the Ottoman empire, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, and the Islamic Caliphate.

When the Romans conquered Judah and exiled its previous ruler King Herod Archelaus, they merged it with Galilee (another town where Jews and Gentiles lived) and renamed both places to Judea, then later renamed Judea to Syria Palestina.

Some say the Romans renamed it to Syria Palestina to spite the Jews after their second failed insurrection against the romans. Palestine is not even an Arab name, it was derived from the roman name Palestina. It was the romans who gave it that name.

So the name was Judah => Judea => Syria Palestina => Palestine => Israel and Palestine

Jews were conquered by many empires and many of them migrated to Europe, America and all over the world, while the ones who didn't migrate lived under occupation of the empires that were ruling, most notably the ottoman empire during successive Arab invasions. They lived with Arabs under Arab rule, until the 20th century when antisemitism in Europe started the jewish migration back to Palestine

The British promised them independence in a part of what was once their ancestral land, and the UN eventually ratified it but the Arabs rejected the UN resolution and went to war with them and the rest is history, just to summarize it

Sterope:
Before I answer your questions, you have to answer mine?

1. It was the home of Jews. Jew as in the faith. Some of them migrated over 2000 years ago. Some didn't.

2. Not all Jews migrated from their land. We call them Palestinians Jews. There are other ones spread across the Arab world before Mossad used fear to eject them from their homes.

2. Religion is like every other religions, there are converts eveywhere. People change religions all the time.





Now answer my questions

1. I am Muslim. Am I entitled stop Saudi Arabia citizenship because of faith?

2. My greatgreatgrandparents were from Ogbomosho. Can I return to Ogbomosho and claim the land?

3. Are you as a Christian, entitled to Jerusalem or Jerusalem citizenship if that were possible because you believed in Jesus Christ?

4. Should white people on the basis of their faith claim a land in the middle East?

5. Give me 5 Zionist members that can point to a landmark in Palestine/Israel and tell you where their ancestors graves and homes were?

6. Do Jewish converts have a right to Palestinian land on the basis of their faith?

7. How long was this?

8. Can descendants of Yoruba or of Igbos slaves AND those who converted to paganism in South America lay a claim over Igbo or Yoruba lands because we used to pagans?

Mtcheew
Omo you are so blind to simple truths eh.
All the rubbish you just spewed now are your proofs that israel doesn’t own that land.
Brother bringscientific proofs not sentimental nonsense.
Until you can prove to me scientifically that the land does not belong to the isrealis don’t quote me again.
From the basis of your arguement,it means we can only lay claim to the land we live in and not the land our ancestors lived in.then it means israel currently own all the lands including Gaza because they currently live in it.
See how twisted you sound ba.
Bring proves that the land of israel is not the ancestral home of Israeli or don’t quote me again.

socialmediaman:
It's a bitter pill to swallow for many Arabs and muslims, but ancient jews owned the land called Israel/Palestine today. The land was once called the land hof Judah, an ancient Jewish tribe of Israel. Yes, it belonged to ancient jewish tribe of Judah.

Before British rule of Palestine, many previous empires ruled the area, including the Ottoman empire, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, and the Islamic Caliphate.

When the Romans conquered Judah and exiled its previous ruler King Herod Archelaus, they merged it with Galilee (another town where Jews and Gentiles lived) and renamed both places to Judea, then later renamed Judea to Syria Palestina.

Some say the Romans renamed it to Syria Palestina to spite the Jews after their second failed insurrection against the romans. Palestine is not even an Arab name, it was derived from the roman name Palestina. It was the romans who gave it that name.

So the name was Judah => Judea => Syria Palestina => Palestine => Israel and Palestine

Jews were conquered by many empires and many of them migrated to Europe, America and all over the world, while the ones who didn't migrate lived under occupation of the empires that were ruling, most notably the ottoman empire during successive Arab invasions. They lived with Arabs under Arab rule, until the 20th century when antisemitism in Europe started the jewish migration back to Palestine

The British promised them independence in a part of what was once their ancestral land, and the UN eventually ratified it but the Arabs rejected the UN resolution and went to war with them and the rest is history, just to summarize it

This is the truth they don’t want to accept

Imagine this scenario

I am black and a Jew
I settle in the UK
I marry a White man
We have kids.
They intermarry
They are white now
They identify as Yoruba
6 generations later, some of us are still in the UK, some are in Germany, some are in Ireland

Over 2000 years later


Now where I came from: they have gone through change of religions back and forth for the 2000 years. The Yoruba people have been Jews, they have been Christians and they have been Christians again, then Muslims.

Now the majority are Muslims. Some have remained Christians and some have remained Jews.


Now my descendants lay a claim a over that land because they descended from me and they believe their claim is legitimate.

Who else in the world history has done this and gotten away with it? Israel and because Israel is white.

American is backing Israel is yet to give back Native American Lands. Maybe small steps, lets try Hawaii. They could give Hawaii back its land its Independence.

Would you give back your family and community land if others claim it was theirs 600 years ago?

misreal:
Before the Jews migrated to Europe where was their home?
Did every Jew migrated from their homeland to Europe?
Answer these two questions and let’s see if you know anything about Jerusalem

You couldn't answer the questions. That is alright.

misreal:
Mtcheew
Omo you are so blind to simple truths eh.
All the rubbish you just spewed now are your proofs that israel doesn’t own that land.
Brother bringscientific proofs not sentimental nonsense.
Until you can prove to me scientifically that the land does not belong to the isrealis don’t quote me again.
From the basis of your arguement,it means we can only lay claim to the land we live in and not the land our ancestors lived in.then it means israel currently own all the lands including Gaza because they currently live in it.
See how twisted you sound ba.
Bring proves that the land of israel is not the ancestral home of Israeli or don’t quote me again.

DNA and other genetic testing are banned in Israel


Nethanyahu looks very much White. Eastern European to be precise!

misreal:
you were making sense until you said 100percent Europeans.
What scientific studies has shown that the people in present day israel are 100percent Europeans?
This is the lie you chose to believe,and because you believe this lie,you think the Jews should return Jerusalem to the Arabs.
Meanwhile,archeological findings has shown that the land belong to the Jews.
There is nothing you can do to fight these findings other than bringing your hard scientific discovery too,not some sentimental noise of the present day Jews being hundred percent Europeans.