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Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by PHAYOL81: 5:19pm On Nov 20, 2023
Kukutente23:
She never stopped trading slaves. As a matter of fact, that's what the colonialists used against her to banish her to Abeokuta. Go and read your history
Perhaps you've read a distorted and muschievous records of her life online, written by many who hardly got any relationship with the YORUBAs, who didn't know her and who relies on heresays.
She was banished twice from Lagos. First was by Akintoye when she was proven too powerful in the tradition and polity of the then Lagos colony, that the chiefs were feeling slighted by her executive endeavors.
She returned after the death of Akintoye and subsequently worked for the installation of Dosunmu who would later banish her too because she wanted the liberty of trade giving to the RETURNEES (note that these were even some former slaves who,returned back) reduced because their sagacity and knowledge in commerce were making them gaining increasing wealth at the detriments of her own business empire which was then experiencing a steady decline.

I HAPPENED TO SEE A STAGE PLAY ABOUT HER EXPLOITS AND LIVELIHOOD AROUND THE LATE EIGHTIES AND THERE WAS ALSO AN NTA SERIES ABOUT HER AROUND EARLY OR MID 90s TOO THAT DETAILED HER REALIZATION OF THE TREATMENT THE SLAVES RECIEVED FROM THE EUROPEANS THAT MADE HER STOP AND FOUGHT OFF SLAVERS AND OTHER LOCAL TRADERS WHO WERE ALSO DEALING IN SUCH TILL IT WAS NO MORE.

That's why she was duly immortalized with that square till today.
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by Originality007: 6:18pm On Nov 20, 2023
Blitzking:
The same garri that is beyond reach of average Nigeria.. I small paint bucket of garri sells for 1500 as at last week..
1600 naira now
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by delpee(f): 6:38pm On Nov 20, 2023
PHAYOL81:
PELEWURA still has her named stamped on a place on LAGOS ISLAND for her exploits. She successfully liberated her people from exploitation of colonialism.
She ain't a standalone heroine, EFUNROYE TINUBU was another. She also has her name stamped at a location on LAGOS ISLAND for fighting off the slave masters over slave trade. Worthy of note is the fact, that she was initially part of the system until she realized the horror the slaves underwent in transit and at the other side. She put her feet down that such trade would cease to happen throughout YORUBALAND and she saw to it.
YORUBA women had always been liberal to stand for what they believed in, even as far as for men's right, from time immemorial. We have had many courageous activists amongst them.
True. There are others including Funmilayo Ransome Kuti and Adunni Oluwole.
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by Brek: 7:34pm On Nov 20, 2023
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by Sorrynovex: 7:41pm On Nov 20, 2023
kayusely70:
How credible is this?
Maluu no be android phone you get.

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Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by Kukutente23: 7:59am On Nov 21, 2023
PHAYOL81:
Perhaps you've read a distorted and muschievous records of her life online, written by many who hardly got any relationship with the YORUBAs, who didn't know her and who relies on heresays.
She was banished twice from Lagos. First was by Akintoye when she was proven too powerful in the tradition and polity of the then Lagos colony, that the chiefs were feeling slighted by her executive endeavors.
She returned after the death of Akintoye and subsequently worked for the installation of Dosunmu who would later banish her too because she wanted the liberty of trade giving to the RETURNEES (note that these were even some former slaves who,returned back) reduced because their sagacity and knowledge in commerce were making them gaining increasing wealth at the detriments of her own business empire which was then experiencing a steady decline.

I HAPPENED TO SEE A STAGE PLAY ABOUT HER EXPLOITS AND LIVELIHOOD AROUND THE LATE EIGHTIES AND THERE WAS ALSO AN NTA SERIES ABOUT HER AROUND EARLY OR MID 90s TOO THAT DETAILED HER REALIZATION OF THE TREATMENT THE SLAVES RECIEVED FROM THE EUROPEANS THAT MADE HER STOP AND FOUGHT OFF SLAVERS AND OTHER LOCAL TRADERS WHO WERE ALSO DEALING IN SUCH TILL IT WAS NO MORE.

That's why she was duly immortalized with that square till today.
Lol. Same square FFK asked should be destroyed during the anti- slavery riots in the West on account of her links to slavery.
She was a slave trader till she died.
It's not about stage play. It's an historical fact
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by PHAYOL81:
Kukutente23:
Lol. Same square FFK asked should be destroyed during the anti- slavery riots in the West on account of her links to slavery.
She was a slave trader till she died.
It's not about stage play. It's an historical fact
The bolded says a lot. YOU ONLY GO ALONG WITH THE RECORD THAT SUIT YOUR BIGOTRY.
To reiterate, she changed her way when she learnt the difference between domestic slavery (that she was familiar with)and the colonial slave treatment. And as presented in my previous post, by the time she was banished the second and final time, many of these SLAVES now tagged RETURNEES were already returning back (many who bought their freedom from the South American plantations and returned back to different places on African soil before finding their ways to Lagos again. This was even years after the last slave trade) and were getting re-introduced into the society with freedom of trade and other benefits, the policies which MADAM EFUNROYE TINUBU started fighting against that led to her fall out with the king.


EVEN WHEN DEN TELL PERSON LIES, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DISCERN IT FROM THE TRUTH BY LOOKING AT TIMEFRAME AND EVENT.

And what's more? She left Lagos finally for EGBA years before her death and even though, her estate of wealth didn't match her Lagos achievement, she continued in success (and exportation) till her death and as nature would have it, she became the FIRST IYALODE OF EGBA and YORUBALAND during her stay there.


PS: THAT FFK SAID THE ABOVE (which maybe fake or truth) IS LIKELY OVER THE FACT THAT SHE EVER TRADED SLAVES AND NOT NECESSARILY THAT SHE NEVER GOT SORRY FOR PARTICIPATING. THE PEOPLE SAW NEEDS TO IMMORTALIZED HER FOR TURNING BACK AND FIGHTING AGAINST SUCH INHUMANE ACTIVITY. AND THIS WAS EVEN LONG BEFORE AMALGAMATION. SHE DIED YEARS BEFORE THE AMALGAMATION TOO.
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by Kukutente23: 4:28pm On Nov 21, 2023
PHAYOL81:
The bolded says a lot. YOU ONLY GO ALONG WITH THE RECORD THAT SUIT YOUR BIGOTRY.
To reiterate, she changed her way when she learnt the difference between domestic slavery (that she was familiar with)and the colonial slave treatment. And as presented in my previous post, by the time she was banished the second and final time, many of these SLAVES now tagged RETURNEES were already returning back (many who bought their freedom from the South American plantations and returned back to different places on African soil before finding their ways to Lagos again. This was even years after the last slave trade) and were getting re-introduced into the society with freedom of trade and other benefits, the policies which MADAM EFUNROYE TINUBU started fighting against that led to her fall out with the king.


EVEN WHEN DEN TELL PERSON LIES, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DISCERN IT FROM THE TRUTH BY LOOKING AT TIMEFRAME AND EVENT.

And what's more? She left Lagos finally for EGBA years before her death and even though, her estate of wealth didn't match her Lagos achievement, she continued in success (and exportation) till her death and as nature would have it, she became the FIRST IYALODE OF EGBA and YORUBALAND during her stay there.


PS: THAT FFK SAID THE ABOVE (which maybe fake or truth) IS LIKELY OVER THE FACT THAT SHE EVER TRADED SLAVES AND NOT NECESSARILY THAT SHE NEVER GOT SORRY FOR PARTICIPATING. THE PEOPLE SAW NEEDS TO IMMORTALIZED HER FOR TURNING BACK AND FIGHTING AGAINST SUCH INHUMANE ACTIVITY. AND THIS WAS EVEN LONG BEFORE AMALGAMATION. SHE DIED YEARS BEFORE THE AMALGAMATION TOO.
There's nothing like bigotry. It is shameful you want to reduce an historical fact to tribal matters. She owned slaves till she died.
She never fought for slaves to be emancipated.
FFK made the tweet. It's online.
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by PHAYOL81: 8:08pm On Nov 21, 2023
Kukutente23:
There's nothing like bigotry. It is shameful you want to reduce an historical fact to tribal matters. She owned slaves till she died.
She never fought for slaves to be emancipated.
FFK made the tweet. It's online.
Bigotry doesn't have to be tribal and I ain't claiming you're tribalistic but what's clear is your religious inclination towards your opinion that shows disdain towards the person in discuss. You'd rather stick to your point in as much as it paints the opinion you wanted even IF IN CONTRARY TO PROVEN EVENTS.
And don't mix it together, a very successful wealthy individual of her time would own slaves. They all did: from kings to chiefs to colonial governors, wealthy people, influentials and the likes, they all owned domestic slaves in those days and she ain't no exception. THAT She kept and used the services of domestic slaves doesn't translate to she still traded those slaves. In the latter part of her years, slave trade had even been abolished. What the europeans required then were agro resources and that's what trade were reduced to.
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by Kukutente23: 8:14pm On Nov 21, 2023
PHAYOL81:
Bigotry doesn't have to be tribal and I ain't claiming you're tribalistic but what's clear is your religious inclination towards your opinion that shows disdain towards the person in discuss. You'd rather stick to your point in as much as it paints the opinion you wanted even IF IN CONTRARY TO PROVEN EVENTS.
And don't mix it together, a very successful wealthy individual of her time would own slaves. They all did: from kings to chiefs to colonial governors, wealthy people, influentials and the likes, they all owned domestic slaves in those days and she ain't no exception. THAT She kept and used the services of domestic slaves doesn't translate to she still traded those slaves. In the latter part of her years, slave trade had even been abolished. What the europeans required then were agro resources and that's what trade were reduced to.
What?! Disdain? Why will I show disdain towards an historical figure? Did she sell me or any of my family members into slavery? I'm arguing with you based on historical facts and not emotions or apologetics.
Here are captions of her biography on Wikipedia. Show me where she ever fought against slavery. You can see that even till her dying days, she was still advocating for and actively engaging in slave trading

Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by PHAYOL81:
Kukutente23:
What?! Disdain? Why will I show disdain towards an historical figure? Did she sell me or any of my family members into slavery? I'm arguing with you based on historical facts and not emotions or apologetics.
Here are captions of her biography on Wikipedia. Show me where she ever fought against slavery. You can see that even till her dying days, she was still advocating for and actively engaging in slave trading
What other source would you cite other than YEMITAN? IT'S always the cite bigots reference and the few who don't go for it, still end up citing bloggers whose information were sourced from OLADIPO YEMITAN's wiki page.
TO start, have you ask yourself who YEMITAN is/was? YES, who is OLADIPO YEMITAN and what's his biography and qualification? I have searched internet to know him/er but each time, it's all about the WIKIPEDIA page or a mention directed to it as reference.
I don't want to believe you're all the while basing your argument on the purported findings of a nonentities, so if you've got his bio details, avail them to me to help clear SOME DOUBTS?



AGE CORRECTION/CLARIFICATION.

The acceptable year of birth is 1805 not 1810 as speculated by YEMITAN. This is the reality as documented by the two states wherein she spent her lifetime.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/01/10/133-years-after-family-well-wishers-celebrate-madam-efunroye-tinubu-the-yoruba-unsung-heroine

She died aged 82 years, not 77.

YEMITAN ECONOMICAL WITH INFORMATION/TRUTH

Further, she obtained a tract of land
from Akitoye which now constitutes part of the present-day
Tinubu Square and Kakawa Street. Later, a conflict
developed between Tinubu and some slave traders including
Possu, a Kosoko loyalist. Consequently, Possu, Ajenia, and
other traders tried to instigate an uprising against Akitoye
because of Madam Tinubu's influence in Lagos. In the
interest of peace, Benjamin Campbell , the British Consul in
Lagos, asked Akitoye to exile Tinubu. [19]
..................
THE above was an excerpt from YEMITAN wiki page. Did you ask yourself what actually was the reason of the conflict between her and other slavers?And what else would it have been other than her interference in their business over her committed resolution to put an end to the system? Like I posited at one earliest post, the other slavers were also disallowed to further trading and they began scheming against her to the extent of seeking help from the royals over her overbearing influence that's made life unbearable for them. They succeeded in getting sympathy from the colony masters who, to note, already hate her excesses amidst the numerous troubles she caused them while trying to stamp down authority in the land.
Why didn't Yemitan seek clarification over this and if he wanted to claim those ones were the heroes fighting against slave trade by Madam EFUNROYE, why weren't they the celebrated heroes instead, especially in a society like LAGOS that celebrated every heroic deeds of their people before and during colonial rules?
STUUUUPID Yemitan somewhat believed the people DISREGARDED THOSE FIGHTING FOR THEM JUST TO CELEBRATE THEIR OPPRESSOR? And this was the LAGOS THAT WAS ALREADY LIVING IN IMPROVING CIVILITY AND LITERACY? How does it add up? Just how?

INDIGENOUS EVIDENCE

LASU portal refers to her as repentant slaver:
LAGOS STATE UNIVERSITY DISCOVERY AND RECORD PRO
https://lasucom.edu.ng/2021/02/05/aluminie-forum/

LAGOS STATE SUPPORTED EVENT ALSO PROCLAIMED HER REPENTANCE (and hinted on the role colonial governor, GLOVER, played in her return to LAGOS when she was initially banished. Note that GLOVER was a very popular colonial leader with lagosians for his fantastic system of governance. And this included Madam Tinubu to a point):
https://www.africanartswithtaj.com/2011/09/adeola-baloguns-monuments.html?m=1


OTHER BLOGS/MEDIA ALSO RECOUNTING HER REPENTANCE AS WRITTEN BY YORUBA HISTORIANS:

https://saharareporters.com/2011/01/18/house-tinubu-built

https://litcaf.com/efunroye-tinubu/

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/madam-efunroye-tinubu-the-repentant-nigerian-slave-trader-who-helped-abolish-the-practice-in-the-1800s

https://www.wordguru.rocks/single-post/2018/09/17/african-history-of-selling-slaves


NAIRALAND TOPIC WHO HAD TREATED IT ALREADY:

https://www.nairaland.com/4696979/how-madam-efunroye-tinubu-aided

OH almost forgot the ALATISE part. Do you realized OGUNDIPE ALATISE was just another chiefs in the ruling cabinet of historic EGBALAND? He was the most revered of the fierce warlords who finally put the DAHOMEY in their place. Guess with the help of who: IYALODE EFUNROYE of course. She continued wielding enormous influence in EGBA too that she continued her kingmaker role by helping the installation of an ALAKE OF EGBA too. Who would drag such to another chief to judge irrespective of whom? HOW? WHAT WAS THE JUDGEMENT? WHO EXECUTED IT AND HOW WAS IT EXECUTED?

SOMETIMES you should be able to spot event that never add up. We all have brains so we can use it.

IF holy books presented and/or proclaimed repented sinners as GOOD PEOPLE, why do we have problem accepting her U-TURN and why would some people rather believe UNKNOWN HISTORIAN (Yemitan)over TRADITIONALIST WHOSE FOREFATHERS ORALLY HANDED THEM WITNESSED RECORD THAT MADE THEM IMMORTALIZED HER.
SHE WASN'T THE ONLY SLAVERS, WHY WASN'T OTHERS CELEBRATED? WHY DID EVEN SOME OF HER SLAVES ADOPTED HER NAME TO KEEP IT RUNNING FOREVER?
WHY WAS SHE HIGHLY REGARDED IN SUCH YORUBA LAND OF OLD THAT DETEST AND FOREVER DEMONIZE EVIL?
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by Kukutenla:
PHAYOL81:
What other source would you cite other than YEMITAN? IT'S always the cite bigots reference and the few who don't go for it, still end up citing bloggers whose information were sourced from OLADIPO YEMITAN's wiki page.
TO start, have you ask yourself who YEMITAN is/was? YES, who is OLADIPO YEMITAN and what's his biography and qualification? I have searched internet to know him/er but each time, it's all about the WIKIPEDIA page or a mention directed to it as reference.
I don't want to believe you're all the while basing your argument on the purported findings of a nonentities, so if you've got his bio details, avail them to me to help clear SOME DOUBTS?



AGE CORRECTION/CLARIFICATION.

The acceptable year of birth is 1805 not 1810 as speculated by YEMITAN. This is the reality as documented by the two states wherein she spent her lifetime.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/01/10/133-years-after-family-well-wishers-celebrate-madam-efunroye-tinubu-the-yoruba-unsung-heroine

She died aged 82 years, not 77.

YEMITAN ECONOMICAL WITH INFORMATION/TRUTH



THE above was an excerpt from YEMITAN wiki page. Did you ask yourself what actually was the reason of the conflict between her and other slavers?And what else would it have been other than her interference in their business over her committed resolution to put an end to the system? Like I posited at one earliest post, the other slavers were also disallowed to further trading and they began scheming against her to the extent of seeking help from the royals over her overbearing influence that's made life unbearable for them. They succeeded in getting sympathy from the colony masters who, to note, already hate her excesses amidst the numerous troubles she caused them while trying to stamp down authority in the land.
Why didn't Yemitan seek clarification over this and if he wanted to claim those ones were the heroes fighting against slave trade by Madam EFUNROYE, why weren't they the celebrated heroes instead, especially in a society like LAGOS that celebrated every heroic deeds of their people before and during colonial rules?
STUUUUPID Yemitan somewhat believed the people DISREGARDED THOSE FIGHTING FOR THEM JUST TO CELEBRATE THEIR OPPRESSOR? And this was the LAGOS THAT WAS ALREADY LIVING IN IMPROVING CIVILITY AND LITERACY? How does it add up? Just how?

INDIGENOUS EVIDENCE

LASU portal refers to her as repentant slaver:
LAGOS STATE UNIVERSITY DISCOVERY AND RECORD PRO
https://lasucom.edu.ng/2021/02/05/aluminie-forum/

LAGOS STATE SUPPORTED EVENT ALSO PROCLAIMED HER REPENTANCE (and hinted on the role colonial governor, GLOVER, played in her return to LAGOS when she was initially banished. Note that GLOVER was a very popular colonial leader with lagosians for his fantastic system of governance. And this included Madam Tinubu to a point):
https://www.africanartswithtaj.com/2011/09/adeola-baloguns-monuments.html?m=1


OTHER BLOGS/MEDIA ALSO RECOUNTING HER REPENTANCE AS WRITTEN BY YORUBA HISTORIANS:

https://saharareporters.com/2011/01/18/house-tinubu-built

https://litcaf.com/efunroye-tinubu/

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/madam-efunroye-tinubu-the-repentant-nigerian-slave-trader-who-helped-abolish-the-practice-in-the-1800s

https://www.wordguru.rocks/single-post/2018/09/17/african-history-of-selling-slaves


NAIRALAND TOPIC WHO HAD TREATED IT ALREADY:

https://www.nairaland.com/4696979/how-madam-efunroye-tinubu-aided

OH almost forgot the ALATISE part. Do you realized OGUNDIPE ALATISE was just another chiefs in the ruling cabinet of historic EGBALAND? He was the most revered of the fierce warlords who finally put the DAHOMEY in their place. Guess with the help of who: IYALODE EFUNROYE of course. She continued wielding enormous influence in EGBA too that she continued her kingmaker role by helping the installation of an ALAKE OF EGBA too. Who would drag such to another chief to judge irrespective of whom? HOW? WHAT WAS THE JUDGEMENT? WHO EXECUTED IT AND HOW WAS IT EXECUTED?

SOMETIMES you should be able to spot event that never add up. We all have brains so we can use it.

IF holy books presented and/or proclaimed repented sinners as GOOD PEOPLE, why do we have problem accepting her U-TURN and why would some people rather believe UNKNOWN HISTORIAN (Yemitan)over TRADITIONALIST WHOSE FOREFATHERS ORALLY HANDED THEM WITNESSED RECORD THAT MADE THEM IMMORTALIZED HER.
SHE WASN'T THE ONLY SLAVERS, WHY WASN'T OTHERS CELEBRATED? WHY DID EVEN SOME OF HER SLAVES ADOPTED HER NAME TO KEEP IT RUNNING FOREVER?
WHY WAS SHE HIGHLY REGARDED IN SUCH YORUBA LAND OF OLD THAT DETEST AND FOREVER DEMONIZE EVIL?
This is funny. You disparaged Yemitan an historian who gave historical facts as a bigot and also claimed others are bloggers meanwhile your first link is actually an empty blog. The face to face Africa is also a blog and actually referenced Yemitan. Also, two other links including the litcaf referencedsame Yemitan. Saharareporters is a news site doing reporting and not any historical or archaeological research and it also referenced Yemitan. The africanarts link is empty too. Same with worldguru.

Most importantly, none of your links could mention at least 1 person she rescued from slavery since you claimed she fought against slavery. At least for some others like Ajayi Crowther, we have evidence and names of people he rescued.

Secondly, you claimed she died at 82 years and not 77 whereas your links put her she at 77.
Did your even read the links at all or you just dumped them because they came up with the word search "repentant" in relation to the subject? It's obvious you're poor at what you're attempting.
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by fuckJones(op): 11:19am On Nov 23, 2023
Sorrynovex:
Maluu no be android phone you get.

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I wonder oo
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by Jimkuti: 11:46am On Nov 23, 2023
fuckJones:
You Drink Garri And Use It For Food Purposes But Did You Know In 1944, Selling Garri Was illegal In Nigeria?

The British colonial Government made it illegal for anyone to sell Garri privately, Garri became "Government treasure”
This actually happened during the era of the second World War. As we know the British were suffering at he hand of Germans and they were desperate to win the War, they needed money and resources so they pulled as many as they could get from their colonies, including Nigeria.
They built harbours, roads, Airfields, hospitals, anything to make their exploitation easier. Thousand of Nigerian Men were recruited into the Army to fight in the second World. Even at that, they still needed more, They imposed some monetary policies and they rationed food so they could have enough to export for their wars. The government was in charge of food distribution and people would have to queue for days to buy Garri.
They wanted to tax market women. Then we had Alimotu Pelewura, a Nigerian woman led a protest to curb this action. British Government were like "British women pay tax, why should Nigerian women be any different" and Pelewura replied " All of Nigeria's wealth was being taken to Britain hence the British women could pay tax because they were Rich". She organized the market and told them to boycott sales of Garri to the Govt. This made the Govt and the security agents "declared war"

The Government started arresting those who sold Garri privately but NIGERIANS are very resourceful so the Fa-ya-wo got involved (Fa-ya-wo is what the Yorubas call Smugglers). The Fa-ya-wo would crawl on their bellys(hence their name) to steal Garri from government stores
And sell in private. Garri had it own black market. 😳
The govt found it very hard to solve this problem, they tried to bribe Halimatu Pelewura to come to their side but she didn't sell her conscience.
So when next you see garri, show some respect oo
and we are still suffering in the hands of the west till date
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by PHAYOL81: 1:57pm On Nov 23, 2023
Kukutenla:
This is funny. You disparaged Yemitan an historian who gave historical facts as a bigot and also claimed others are bloggers meanwhile your first link is actually an empty blog. The face to face Africa is also a blog and actually referenced Yemitan. Also, two other links including the litcaf referencedsame Yemitan. Saharareporters is a news site doing reporting and not any historical or archaeological research and it also referenced Yemitan. The africanarts link is empty too. Same with worldguru.

Most importantly, none of your links could mention at least 1 person she rescued from slavery since you claimed she fought against slavery. At least for some others like Ajayi Crowther, we have evidence and names of people he rescued.

Secondly, you claimed she died at 82 years and not 77 whereas your links put her she at 77.
Did your even read the links at all or you just dumped them because they came up with the word search "repentant" in relation to the subject? It's obvious you're poor at what you're attempting.
First of,my reference point began from YEMITAN's article. I haven't even disregard him, I hold my reservation until whom s/he is/was is available, all the bio details.
Remember you asked me to spot out the evidence of her repentance in that wikipedia article and that's what I did, citing that excerpt with explanation. And that you still request names of the slaves still shows more bigotry. The problem is, you keep discarding reality because it ain't the truth you wanted to hear:you would've loved the YEMITAN version to be true but reality says otherwise. YEMITAN was economical with information and truth. I suspect it might seem so s/he wouldn't have to contradict own self with DISPARAGING ALLEGATION s/he wanted to add along the line. THAT ASPECT/EXCERPT WAS ALWAYS THE POINT IN HER CHRONICLE THAT SHOWED HER ACTIVISM AGAINST SLAVE TRADE. AND THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE POINT MANY SUPPORTER OF HER REPENTANCE ADVOCATION OFTEN CITED AND EXPANTIATED WITH VIVIDITY BUT YEMITAN SOMEWHAT DECIDED TO GO OBSCURE. MANY BELIEVED SHE BECAME THE OTHER SLAVERS ENEMIES FORIT WHILE SHE IN TURN EARNED THE PEOPLE's RESPECT AND CELEBRATION WHILE THE OTHER SLAVE TRADERS WERE DEEMED TO BE BETTER LEFT FORGOTTEN BY THAT SAME PEOPLE. THOSE WHO BEGAN TO IMMORTALIZED HER ARE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN HER TIME, WHO KNEW HER FIRST HAND, AND PEOPLE WHO WERE SLAVES SHE HAD, WHO WERE CLOSEST TO HER THAN ANY OTHER
Truth is, YEMITAN record is insane and is only been supportd by bigots who hated ...EFUNROYE TINUBU's gut. According to the article's claim of the other slave traders being the actual heroes (as that's what it's claimed) like I already started in previous post, How can s/he (YEMITAN)defend claim the yoruba people (not only Lagosians here as she had monument in Abeokuta too)are inconsistent? HOW DID S/HE CARE TO DEFEND HIS/ER CLAIM THAT THE PEOPLE THAT'S ALWAYS CELEBRATED ANYBODY WHO'D DONE AN HEROIC DEED FOR THEM (there are a good number of such names before and after this era that are still been celebrated till today) SUDDENLY CHANGE TO DISREGARD SUCH? AND ON THE FLIP SIDE, HOW DID S/HE CARE TO DEFEND HER CLAIM THAT YORUBA PEOPLE SUDDENLY BEGIN TO CELEBRATE VILLIAN WHO FAILED TO REPENT (when they'd always detest such with good number of evidences from before and after her era)?She was even immortalized by slaves whom YEMITAN said she unrepentantly maltreated. IT NEVER ADD UP. THE REALITY SAYS YEMITAN IS A LIAR WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT S/HE WAS SAYING AT SOME POINT OF HIS/ER ARTICLE.
Meanwhile, please go back to my referenced links, there are LASU online portal, Sahare Reporter, another local media e-page, and a lagos state supported art event reported by its e-publication all of which are RELIABLE evidences.
And I didn't even disqualify any blog anywhere: what I said was that every other blog/media that anybody can cite that has YEMITAN version of the story sourced their information from nowhere other than his/er wikipedia page. Simple. You can prove me wrong though.
LASTLY, what superior sources of evidence could anyone seek of anything/anyone other than the one from the origin or witness? EFUNROYE TINUBU was rightly celebrated before her death, she was immortalized after death by people &relatives who knew her, lived with her and who breathe the same air with her, and she was idolized by even slaves she owned (as some of them adopted her name to keep her memory forever). These are the first line of evidence anywhere. Thus, her neighbours, her tribe, the two states she resided, her awards, her immortalisation, the celebration of her name, all right from the day she died, all denotes that she died a heroine. I don't know any better evidence surpassing that.

AND you ask of names of slaves she rescued; well, I didn't tell you she stopped the trade RAMBO-like, storming the den of the bad guys, killing them and picking up the victims. No, there's always a better way to go about things without unnecessary bloodshed. She was the biggest trader and Middleman and she just cut off all links between buyers and sellers. She controlled the shoreline and determined activities that went on there. She frustrated sales by ensuring no traders had access to these europeans that only arrived via the port and fight off secret meeting too. Remenber, the other traders only complained about her excessive influence that was blocking their business and not her INTRUSION because she didn't intrude into any properties.
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by PHAYOL81: 2:14pm On Nov 23, 2023
Kukutenla:
This is funny. You disparaged Yemitan an historian who gave historical facts as a bigot and also claimed others are bloggers meanwhile your first link is actually an empty blog. The face to face Africa is also a blog and actually referenced Yemitan. Also, two other links including the litcaf referencedsame Yemitan. Saharareporters is a news site doing reporting and not any historical or archaeological research and it also referenced Yemitan. The africanarts link is empty too. Same with worldguru.

Most importantly, none of your links could mention at least 1 person she rescued from slavery since you claimed she fought against slavery. At least for some others like Ajayi Crowther, we have evidence and names of people he rescued.

Secondly, you claimed she died at 82 years and not 77 whereas your links put her she at 77.
Did your even read the links at all or you just dumped them because they came up with the word search "repentant" in relation to the subject? It's obvious you're poor at what you're attempting.
First of,my reference point began from YEMITAN's article. I haven't even disregard him, I hold my reservation until whom s/he is/was is available, all the bio details.
Remember you asked me to spot out the evidence of her repentance in that wikipedia article and that's what I did, citing that excerpt with explanation. And that you still request names of the slaves still shows more bigotry. The problem is, you keep discarding reality because it ain't the truth you wanted to hear:you would've loved the YEMITAN version to be true but reality says otherwise. YEMITAN was economical with information and truth. I suspect it might seem so s/he wouldn't have to contradict own self with DISPARAGING ALLEGATION s/he wanted to add along the line. THAT ASPECT/EXCERPT WAS ALWAYS THE POINT IN HER CHRONICLE THAT SHOWED HER ACTIVISM AGAINST SLAVE TRADE. AND THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE POINT MANY SUPPORTER OF HER REPENTANCE ADVOCATION OFTEN CITED AND EXPANTIATED WITH VIVIDITY BUT YEMITAN SOMEWHAT DECIDED TO GO OBSCURE. MANY BELIEVED SHE BECAME THE OTHER SLAVERS ENEMIES FORIT WHILE SHE IN TURN EARNED THE PEOPLE's RESPECT AND CELEBRATION WHILE THE OTHER SLAVE TRADERS WERE DEEMED TO BE BETTER LEFT FORGOTTEN BY THAT SAME PEOPLE. THOSE WHO BEGAN TO IMMORTALIZED HER ARE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN HER TIME, WHO KNEW HER FIRST HAND, AND PEOPLE WHO WERE SLAVES SHE HAD, WHO WERE CLOSEST TO HER THAN ANY OTHER
Truth is, YEMITAN record is insane and is only been supportd by bigots who hated ...EFUNROYE TINUBU's gut. According to the article's claim of the other slave traders being the actual heroes (as that's what it's claimed) like I already started in previous post, How can s/he (YEMITAN)defend claim the yoruba people (not only Lagosians here as she had monument in Abeokuta too)are inconsistent? HOW DID S/HE CARE TO DEFEND HIS/ER CLAIM THAT THE PEOPLE THAT'S ALWAYS CELEBRATED ANYBODY WHO'D DONE AN HEROIC DEED FOR THEM (there are a good number of such names before and after this era that are still been celebrated till today) SUDDENLY CHANGE TO DISREGARD SUCH? AND ON THE FLIP SIDE, HOW DID S/HE CARE TO DEFEND HER CLAIM THAT YORUBA PEOPLE SUDDENLY BEGIN TO CELEBRATE VILLIAN WHO FAILED TO REPENT (when they'd always detest such with good number of evidences from before and after her era)?She was even immortalized by slaves whom YEMITAN said she unrepentantly maltreated. IT NEVER ADD UP. THE REALITY SAYS YEMITAN IS A LIAR WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT S/HE WAS SAYING AT SOME POINT OF HIS/ER ARTICLE.
Meanwhile, please go back to my referenced links, there are LASU online portal, Sahare Reporter, another local media e-page, and a lagos state supported art event reported by its e-publication all of which are RELIABLE evidences.
And I didn't even disqualify any blog anywhere: what I said was that every other blog/media that anybody can cite that has YEMITAN version of the story sourced their information from nowhere other than his/er wikipedia page. Simple. You can prove me wrong though.
LASTLY, what superior sources of evidence could anyone seek of anything/anyone other than the one from the origin or witness? EFUNROYE TINUBU was rightly celebrated before her death, she was immortalized after death by people &relatives who knew her, lived with her and who breathe the same air with her, and she was idolized by even slaves she owned (as some of them adopted her name to keep her memory forever). These are the first line of evidence anywhere. Thus, her neighbours, her tribe, the two states she resided, her awards, her immortalisation, the celebration of her name, all right from the day she died, all denotes that she died a heroine. I don't know any better evidence surpassing that.

AND you ask of names of slaves she rescued; well, I didn't tell you she stopped the trade RAMBO-like, storming the den of the bad guys, killing them and picking up the victims. No, there's always a better way to go about things without unnecessary bloodshed. She was the biggest trader and Middleman and she just cut off all links between buyers and sellers. She controlled the shoreline and determined activities that went on there. She frustrated sales by ensuring no traders had access to these europeans that only arrived via the port and fight off secret meeting too. Remenber, the other traders only complained about her excessive influence that was blocking their business and not her INTRUSION because she didn't intrude into any properties.

face2faceAfrica and wordguru ain't empty. Perhaps, you're using unsupported browsers. JUST rechecked them now
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by Kukutenla: 3:57pm On Nov 23, 2023
PHAYOL81:
First of,my reference point began from YEMITAN's article. I haven't even disregard him, I hold my reservation until whom s/he is/was is available, all the bio details.
Remember you asked me to spot out the evidence of her repentance in that wikipedia article and that's what I did, citing that excerpt with explanation. And that you still request names of the slaves still shows more bigotry. The problem is, you keep discarding reality because it ain't the truth you wanted to hear:you would've loved the YEMITAN version to be true but reality says otherwise. YEMITAN was economical with information and truth. I suspect it might seem so s/he wouldn't have to contradict own self with DISPARAGING ALLEGATION s/he wanted to add along the line. THAT ASPECT/EXCERPT WAS ALWAYS THE POINT IN HER CHRONICLE THAT SHOWED HER ACTIVISM AGAINST SLAVE TRADE. AND THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE POINT MANY SUPPORTER OF HER REPENTANCE ADVOCATION OFTEN CITED AND EXPANTIATED WITH VIVIDITY BUT YEMITAN SOMEWHAT DECIDED TO GO OBSCURE. MANY BELIEVED SHE BECAME THE OTHER SLAVERS ENEMIES FORIT WHILE SHE IN TURN EARNED THE PEOPLE's RESPECT AND CELEBRATION WHILE THE OTHER SLAVE TRADERS WERE DEEMED TO BE BETTER LEFT FORGOTTEN BY THAT SAME PEOPLE. THOSE WHO BEGAN TO IMMORTALIZED HER ARE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN HER TIME, WHO KNEW HER FIRST HAND, AND PEOPLE WHO WERE SLAVES SHE HAD, WHO WERE CLOSEST TO HER THAN ANY OTHER
Truth is, YEMITAN record is insane and is only been supportd by bigots who hated ...EFUNROYE TINUBU's gut. According to the article's claim of the other slave traders being the actual heroes (as that's what it's claimed) like I already started in previous post, How can s/he (YEMITAN)defend claim the yoruba people (not only Lagosians here as she had monument in Abeokuta too)are inconsistent? HOW DID S/HE CARE TO DEFEND HIS/ER CLAIM THAT THE PEOPLE THAT'S ALWAYS CELEBRATED ANYBODY WHO'D DONE AN HEROIC DEED FOR THEM (there are a good number of such names before and after this era that are still been celebrated till today) SUDDENLY CHANGE TO DISREGARD SUCH? AND ON THE FLIP SIDE, HOW DID S/HE CARE TO DEFEND HER CLAIM THAT YORUBA PEOPLE SUDDENLY BEGIN TO CELEBRATE VILLIAN WHO FAILED TO REPENT (when they'd always detest such with good number of evidences from before and after her era)?She was even immortalized by slaves whom YEMITAN said she unrepentantly maltreated. IT NEVER ADD UP. THE REALITY SAYS YEMITAN IS A LIAR WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT S/HE WAS SAYING AT SOME POINT OF HIS/ER ARTICLE.
Meanwhile, please go back to my referenced links, there are LASU online portal, Sahare Reporter, another local media e-page, and a lagos state supported art event reported by its e-publication all of which are RELIABLE evidences.
And I didn't even disqualify any blog anywhere: what I said was that every other blog/media that anybody can cite that has YEMITAN version of the story sourced their information from nowhere other than his/er wikipedia page. Simple. You can prove me wrong though.
LASTLY, what superior sources of evidence could anyone seek of anything/anyone other than the one from the origin or witness? EFUNROYE TINUBU was rightly celebrated before her death, she was immortalized after death by people &relatives who knew her, lived with her and who breathe the same air with her, and she was idolized by even slaves she owned (as some of them adopted her name to keep her memory forever). These are the first line of evidence anywhere. Thus, her neighbours, her tribe, the two states she resided, her awards, her immortalisation, the celebration of her name, all right from the day she died, all denotes that she died a heroine. I don't know any better evidence surpassing that.

AND you ask of names of slaves she rescued; well, I didn't tell you she stopped the trade RAMBO-like, storming the den of the bad guys, killing them and picking up the victims. No, there's always a better way to go about things without unnecessary bloodshed. She was the biggest trader and Middleman and she just cut off all links between buyers and sellers. She controlled the shoreline and determined activities that went on there. She frustrated sales by ensuring no traders had access to these europeans that only arrived via the port and fight off secret meeting too. Remenber, the other traders only complained about her excessive influence that was blocking their business and not her INTRUSION because she didn't intrude into any properties.

face2faceAfrica and wordguru ain't empty. Perhaps, you're using unsupported browsers. JUST rechecked them now
You write so many words putting some in bold with little substance.
So you don't even know Oladipo Yemitan and you already concluded he's a bigot. Well, he is an historian, author and lecturer at UI and his book on Tinubu was published by the University Press. If he was making false claims as facts, I'm sure the Press would have rejected the book.

Secondly, there's no evidence of her repentance in that Wikipedia article. If you have it. Share. You just went fishing on google and came back with empty, baseless links. Is lasucom a history research site now? Funny enough the link shows it's an alumni site. I wonder what is the business of an alumni site with history.
Your worldguru site eventually opened but still nothing to show any basis of historical work. It was even referencing a fictional novel.
I said face2face africa is a blog. You cannot disparage blogs and still refer to them as veritable sources when it suits you.
Litfcaf referenced Yemitan as well. worldwithaj is also a blog and it only referenced what it heard and not established fact.
You are simply being emotional by claiming she was reverred and celebrated by Yorubas and that makes her above wrong. General Lee and some other slave owners even in the United Kingdom have monuments to their names till today. Some of those mounments were pulled down in 2021. Does that mean all those people with monuments were slaves?
You can't twist history to fit your bias. History is based on facts. If she repented, well good but there is no verifiable historical link to establish that. Simple!!
Re: Selling Gari In 1944 Was Illegal In Nigeria by XAUBulls:
fuckJones:
You Drink Garri And Use It For Food Purposes But Did You Know In 1944, Selling Garri Was illegal In Nigeria?

The British colonial Government made it illegal for anyone to sell Garri privately, Garri became "Government treasure”
This actually happened during the era of the second World War. As we know the British were suffering at he hand of Germans and they were desperate to win the War, they needed money and resources so they pulled as many as they could get from their colonies, including Nigeria.
They built harbours, roads, Airfields, hospitals, anything to make their exploitation easier. Thousand of Nigerian Men were recruited into the Army to fight in the second World. Even at that, they still needed more, They imposed some monetary policies and they rationed food so they could have enough to export for their wars. The government was in charge of food distribution and people would have to queue for days to buy Garri.
They wanted to tax market women. Then we had Alimotu Pelewura, a Nigerian woman led a protest to curb this action. British Government were like "British women pay tax, why should Nigerian women be any different" and Pelewura replied " All of Nigeria's wealth was being taken to Britain hence the British women could pay tax because they were Rich". She organized the market and told them to boycott sales of Garri to the Govt. This made the Govt and the security agents "declared war"

The Government started arresting those who sold Garri privately but NIGERIANS are very resourceful so the Fa-ya-wo got involved (Fa-ya-wo is what the Yorubas call Smugglers). The Fa-ya-wo would crawl on their bellys(hence their name) to steal Garri from government stores
And sell in private. Garri had it own black market. 😳
The govt found it very hard to solve this problem, they tried to bribe Halimatu Pelewura to come to their side but she didn't sell her conscience.
So when next you see garri, show some respect oo
The combined garri and Pelewura angles are very interesting.

Even though there's no source here but you are largely correct because from my years of reading world history books and archival materials, World Wars 1 and 2 created a lot of hyperinflation and food rationing.

The Colonialists indeed took raw cash crops and food crops abroad and returned more expensive finished goods to their colonies worldwide. They even tried to tax their colonies the more and a lot of folks could NOT feed properly and lost their jobs or livelihoods. The wartime global hyperinflation was massive and that knowledge of pre-and-post war events would enable discerning people to easily predict cyclical global investment patterns.

Nice thread.

P.S. I found some Sources:
=>https://newswirengr.com/2023/02/10/how-british-government-criminalized-selling-garri-in-nigeria-in-1944/

Source: Twitter (@NigeriaStories) and Business Day.
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