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Aonkuuse:
Don't mind the double standard of Nigerians especially the Igbos, I do strongly condemn the Nigerian army for dealing with civilians each time a military personnel was killed in the east, but the same people who were crying up and down for the same reason are supporting Israel over the deaths of innocent kids in Palestine..... Don't worry, they will be reminded when the same happens again.... E no go far

Lair! Show us evidence of where you condemned the Nigerian army killings in SE.

Am waiting..

you are the biggest mumu, read my first sentence

jmoore:
Enoch Adebayo is an Igbo? All these vultures of allah akbomb and their mumu eh

LocalStandard1:
I always try to start posts by telling a little about my own experiences. But for months now I don't frequent Nairaland and I will say, there is no bigger medicine to the mind and soul of a person than staying off Nairaland. And staying away from news about Nigeria in general does wonders to a person's personal life, general progress and mental state.

My main issues here and why I decide to put this here is to make us reason and question our own humanity and beliefs.

So since the Israeli vs Palestinian conflicts started many Nigerians, specifically Christians have been siding with the Israelis, even some Pastors like Enoch Adeboye (unsurprising considering his poor judgment) has already jumped on the band wagon of supporting the Israel state immediately. But let us change perspective a little and consider another opinions.

I am from Kaduna State, you might be an Igbo, or a Nigerian Christian who's been ravaged and dealt with by either the Fulani terrorists or the Nigerian army. Let's look at the actions of the Nigerian army in the South East where they usually respond immediately after the killing of a soldier or two and kill people and burn down villages. My dear Christians or Igbo fellows, what do you say about that? Is that justified? Oh well!!

Growing up as a Christian in Southern Kaduna every time there are conflicts in the Middle East and specifically with the Israel State we always see and hear outcries from the Muslims. They'd write things like "free Palestine", "down with Israel". Kaduna State Christians would be on the opposite side praying and cheering for the Israelis.

But as a practical Christian I always wonder even as a child, the Bible says the death and resurrection of Jesus has made us all his own and God's children when we believe and are Baptised. Then how are these people in Israel the only and true people of God? What about us who worship him in spirit and in truth and who claim to know him?

At the start of the conflict some months ago I was on the side of the Israelis till I look into the plight of the Palestinians and I heard the narratives of the South Africans, who where in the same position as the Palestinians some few decades ago. Victimized and put in reservation camps and heavily policed, beaten and killed like nothing, their freedom fighters like the Hamas, considered terrorists. The White Apatheid regime was heavily supported by the same people supporting the Israelis today, the West, Europe and the USA and even the Israelis supported the Apatheid regime. Ironically the same people on the Palestinian side like the Russians, the Iranians, the Chinese etc, supported the Black South Africans.

Currently more than ten thousand Palestinian children, women, disabled, elderly and men have already been killed, and counting. TEN THOUSAND IN ONLY LESS THAN TWO MONTHS! The Arabs have a big fault, in fact they're not innocent. But the majority being dealt with are the average Palestinians.

These same Jewish people benefited the most in the enslavement of Black people, and these same people are sterilizing Black women, specifically the Ethiopian Jews so that they won't give birth to Black children and affect their demographic. These people are not the people of the God me I serve. These Jewish people today are not the people of God in the Bible. These brazen and bold unashamed blatant retaliatory acts is not one for those who fear God.

There are different and more peaceful ways of solving these issues, but the People claiming Jewish today do not want peace till they wipe out and remove all other non Jewish from their homes. These same brutish, and inhumane people are preying on the emotions and beliefs of Christians world wide to continue in the acts of shedding blood irrespective of age, gender or civilians involved. They've blocked the hearts and minds of people into supporting their wickedness.

As a Christian, I know the words of God through Jesus Christ, and this is not it. I refuse to believe we serve the same God that'll clap for acts done by people like these!!!

May God have mercy on you.
Because of you,the heathens have found a way to cast aspersion on the most high God. May God have mercy on you.

Aonkuuse:
Don't mind the double standard of Nigerians especially the Igbos, I do strongly condemn the Nigerian army for dealing with civilians each time a military personnel was killed in the east, but the same people who were crying up and down for the same reason are supporting Israel over the deaths of innocent kids in Palestine..... Don't worry, they will be reminded when the same happens again.... E no go far

..and it will happen to you and your own household cos whatever you wish others comes back to you in folds

ElSudani:
And their Rabbi will still consider you a monkey. That is several notches below the Palestinians they want to exterminate.

The same way arabs see you African muslims as their eternal slaves. What Israelis are doing to hamas terrorists today is a child play compared to what invading arab muslims/jihadist did to the indigenous black Africans of Egypt, Sudan etc.

Raf4:
The same way arabs see you African muslims as their eternal slaves. What Israelis are doing to hamas terrorists today is a child play compared to what invading arab muslims/jihadist did to the indigenous black Africans of Egypt, Sudan etc.

And your dear Isreal helped apartheid South Africa in developing nuclear weapons to be used on people like you even though you have never invaded or displaced anyone from their lands.
By the way, where is your horse in this race? I don't have any in the race and I am not rooting for any side just for peace.

Roger3D:
The main reason why ibo Christians support Isreal is out of hatred for Muslims and nothing else but for the rest of other Nigerian Christians, they're own is even worse. They're brainwashed by their clergy and also hate Muslims as well

You're crying here that they hate Islam. Is there any religion that you muslims and your Islam religion do not hate? Is there any religion/worship center that muslim terrorists have not attacked while shouting allahu akbar?

Yes and that is also how innocent kids will die in your household too.... Dey play

Justiceleague1:
..and it will happen to you and your own household cos whatever you wish others comes back to you in folds

[quote author=Rossikk post=127128915]BETTER TO WORSHIP MOHAMMED THAN THE SATAN YOU WORSHIP.

WHICH RELIGION PERMITS KILLING 20 HUMANS FOR EVERY 1 HUMAN KILLED?

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Have you people ever condemned Iran that is sponsoring the terrorists here snd there?
Saudi Arabia is killing the Yemenis terrorists that Iran is sponsoring against them in droves, yet you muslims aren't complaining but when Israel do the same against same Iran backed hamas terrorists you people will be making noise.

Rossikk:
BETTER TO WORSHIP MOHAMMED THAN THE SATAN YOU WORSHIP.

WHICH RELIGION PERMITS KILLING 20 HUMANS FOR EVERY 1 HUMAN?

Have you people ever condemned Iran that is sponsoring the terrorists here snd there?
Saudi Arabia is killing the Yemenis terrorists that Iran is sponsoring against them in droves, yet you muslims aren't complaining but when Israel do the same against same Iran backed hamas terrorists you people will be making noise.

Justiceleague1:
May God have mercy on you.
Because of you,the heathens have found a way to cast aspersion on the most high God. May God have mercy on you.

So who are the "heathens"? And who is the God you're talking about? Differently not the God who's the creator, because you follow men and identity and you do it lacking of conscience and discernment.

Aonkuuse:
Don't mind the double standard of Nigerians especially the Igbos, I do strongly condemn the Nigerian army for dealing with civilians each time a military personnel was killed in the east, but the same people who were crying up and down for the same reason are supporting Israel over the deaths of innocent kids in Palestine..... Don't worry, they will be reminded when the same happens again.... E no go far

shut up your dirty mouth

Raf4:
Have you people ever condemned Iran that is sponsoring the terrorists here snd there?
Saudi Arabia is killing the Yemenis terrorists that Iran is sponsoring against them in droves, yet you muslims aren't complaining but when Israel do the same against same Iran backed hamas terrorists you people will be making noise.

I AM NEITHER CHRISTIAN NOR MUSLIM YOU FCKING PEA BRAIN.

I JUST REFUSE TO SIT BY WHILE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS ARE HAVING BOMBS DROPPED ON THEM IN THEIR HOMES, YOU SATANIC, VILE PERSON.

I REPEAT: UNDER WHAT RELIGIOUS LAW IS MASSIVELY DISPROPORTIONATE RESPONSE TO KILLING PERMITTED?

TELL US.

SATAN WORSHIPER.

ElSudani:
And their Rabbi will still consider you a monkey.

Monkeys are omnivores (on par with humans).

Not like the Fulani nomads would see any human for that matter better than a herbivore (cow).

It's a case of choosing your poison carefully, yeah?

You are blessed. You said my mind.
They think Palestinians wouldn't finish the whole of Israel if they can. At first when the Hamas were strongly defending against Israel, the Palestinians were praising the Hamas until they got overpowered by IDF and they started forming weak and vulnerable.
The OP is senseless because he is comparing the islreal and Palestine fight with the south Africans.
If the OP is knowledgeable enough, he would have known that even the Israel have been the one pushing for peace. The Israel does not want to kill Palestinians but knowing that the Hamas who wish to finish the whole Israel are operating from Palestine, and using the innocent as shield, they have no choice than to finish all of them

outoftheworld:
by the way, why should you mention the Igbos in this your write up, you sound like one of those jealous of the igbo?
The Israelites are not christians, their religion is Judaism, and eye for eye is part of the law they practice, written in the bible as you maybe aware.

besides Israelites cannot live where they live if they practice that kind of Christianity that's in your mind, being surrounded by their wicked enemies who have been emboldened to kill others and destroy property by their wicked religion in the name of jihad.
Now imagine what would have happened to Israel if any of the countries surrounding them was more powerful, they would have wiped Israel off the map.

In fact I think the Igbos should imbibe that Israelis method of facing their enemies, you don't pity those with jihad or shari'a mentality, you should hit them the hardest.
Imagine what happened in the last election, do you think if Igbos had that Israelis' mentality that mamudu would have the guts to do what he did in the presidential election?
Look how Nigeria has oppressed the Igbos, because Christianity has made them not to hold that eye for eye mentality.

LocalStandard1:
I always try to start posts by telling a little about my own experiences. But for months now I don't frequent Nairaland and I will say, there is no bigger medicine to the mind and soul of a person than staying off Nairaland. And staying away from news about Nigeria in general does wonders to a person's personal life, general progress and mental state.

My main issues here and why I decide to put this here is to make us reason and question our own humanity and beliefs.

So since the Israeli vs Palestinian conflicts started many Nigerians, specifically Christians have been siding with the Israelis, even some Pastors like Enoch Adeboye (unsurprising considering his poor judgment) has already jumped on the band wagon of supporting the Israel state immediately. But let us change perspective a little and consider another opinions.

I am from Kaduna State, you might be an Igbo, or a Nigerian Christian who's been ravaged and dealt with by either the Fulani terrorists or the Nigerian army. Let's look at the actions of the Nigerian army in the South East where they usually respond immediately after the killing of a soldier or two and kill people and burn down villages. My dear Christians or Igbo fellows, what do you say about that? Is that justified? Oh well!!

Growing up as a Christian in Southern Kaduna every time there are conflicts in the Middle East and specifically with the Israel State we always see and hear outcries from the Muslims. They'd write things like "free Palestine", "down with Israel". Kaduna State Christians would be on the opposite side praying and cheering for the Israelis.

But as a practical Christian I always wonder even as a child, the Bible says the death and resurrection of Jesus has made us all his own and God's children when we believe and are Baptised. Then how are these people in Israel the only and true people of God? What about us who worship him in spirit and in truth and who claim to know him?

At the start of the conflict some months ago I was on the side of the Israelis till I look into the plight of the Palestinians and I heard the narratives of the South Africans, who where in the same position as the Palestinians some few decades ago. Victimized and put in reservation camps and heavily policed, beaten and killed like nothing, their freedom fighters like the Hamas, considered terrorists. The White Apatheid regime was heavily supported by the same people supporting the Israelis today, the West, Europe and the USA and even the Israelis supported the Apatheid regime. Ironically the same people on the Palestinian side like the Russians, the Iranians, the Chinese etc, supported the Black South Africans.

Currently more than ten thousand Palestinian children, women, disabled, elderly and men have already been killed, and counting. TEN THOUSAND IN ONLY LESS THAN TWO MONTHS! The Arabs have a big fault, in fact they're not innocent. But the majority being dealt with are the average Palestinians.

These same Jewish people benefited the most in the enslavement of Black people, and these same people are sterilizing Black women, specifically the Ethiopian Jews so that they won't give birth to Black children and affect their demographic. These people are not the people of the God me I serve. These Jewish people today are not the people of God in the Bible. These brazen and bold unashamed blatant retaliatory acts is not one for those who fear God.

There are different and more peaceful ways of solving these issues, but the People claiming Jewish today do not want peace till they wipe out and remove all other non Jewish from their homes. These same brutish, and inhumane people are preying on the emotions and beliefs of Christians world wide to continue in the acts of shedding blood irrespective of age, gender or civilians involved. They've blocked the hearts and minds of people into supporting their wickedness.

As a Christian, I know the words of God through Jesus Christ, and this is not it. I refuse to believe we serve the same God that'll clap for acts done by people like these!!!

First, the fact that you said you are a "practical' Christian is a red flag. It a characteristic of people who claim and approach Christianity with their own wisdom and motives. The statement on Adeboye's judgement further solidified that impression.

Secondly, your write up is biased, predicated on propaganda from Al-Jazeera and Hamas and deceitful. The figures of Palestinian casualties you quote is from Hamas. Your claim that Jews or Israel benefitted the most from black enslavement and sterilized Ethiopian women is dishonest. While Israel admitted the administration of birth control without consent to some Ethiopian women migrants, the matter was raised by Israeli activists and investigations conducted. It is not as you painted it. Where is your evidence of Israel or Jews benefitting from black slave trade? Educate yourself about Arab Slave Trade of which there are indisputable facts before trying to stir up hatred here for Jews using slave trade. You can also read up about treatment of blacks even in this century by Arabs to see how they regard you and your kind.

Your claims that Hamas are freedom fighters and allusions to Israel running an apartheid regime in Palestine is laughable. All in all, your attempt to give legitimacy to your thinly disguised Anti-Semitic and Pro-Hamas write up cannot swindle any logical person not given to sentiments.

The on-going War was precipitated by Hamas slaughtering hundreds of Jews and non-Jews including children and babies in an unprovoked and cowardly attack. The same Hamas sited its operation bases in hospitals and school yards so that they can use as many weak and innocent Palestinian children as collateral damage and the deaths of the innocents as fodder for their propaganda. That is not how honourable and true freedom fighters behave.

True freedom fighters don't collect billions in aid, have their leadership live in foreign countries in sheer opulence and spend money that could build schools, hospitals and amenities on rockets and underground tunnels in a country where general unemployment is 49% and youth unemployment is over 70%.

It may interest you to know Hamas since coming into power in Gaza almost 20 years ago has prevented elections from holding till date and kills Palestinians that dare oppose them.

You may also wish to ask around why other Muslim countries are not willing to take Palestinian refugees? Why Egypt closed its borders and posted military with armoured tanks the borders with Gaza.

All in all, stop trying to deceive people with half-truth and outright lies to whip up support for terrorists.

References:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Muslim_world

https://www.fairplanet.org/dossier/beyond-slavery/forgotten-slavery-the-arab-muslim-slave-trade/

https://www.jstor.org/stable/26554851

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/01417789211016331?icid=int.sj-full-text.similar-articles.6

Which part of your villages did Jesus and Mohammed come from?

Rossikk:
I AM NEITHER CHRISTIAN NOR MUSLIM YOU FCKING PEA BRAIN.

I JUST REFUSE TO SIT BY WHILE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS ARE HAVING BOMBS DROPPED ON THEM IN THEIR HOMES, YOU SATANIC, VILE PERSON.

I REPEAT: UNDER WHAT RELIGIOUS LAW IS MASSIVELY DISPROPORTIONATE RESPONSE TO KILLING PERMITTED?

TELL US.

SATAN WORSHIPER.

You fvcking terrorist and terrorist advocate, I know you aren't proud of your demonic religion. Cracked head

ElSudani:
And your dear Isreal helped apartheid South Africa in developing nuclear weapons to be used on people like you even though you have never invaded or displaced anyone from their lands.
By the way, where is your horse in this race? I don't have any in the race and I am not rooting for any side just for peace.

Go and advocate for peace in Yemen, Syria, Somalia, between Turks and Kurds etc those are the ones in dare need of peace. It isn't Israel that is troubling them, but your........

Raf4:
Go and advocate for peace in Yemen, Syria, Somalia, between Turks and Kurds etc those are the ones in dare need of peace. It isn't Israel that is troubling them, but your........

You can't obviously reason beyond what you know.

Aonkuuse:
Don't mind the double standard of Nigerians especially the Igbos, I do strongly condemn the Nigerian army for dealing with civilians each time a military personnel was killed in the east, but the same people who were crying up and down for the same reason are supporting Israel over the deaths of innocent kids in Palestine..... Don't worry, they will be reminded when the same happens again.... E no go far

And no word for Yoruba pastor Adeboye or is he Igbo too?

ElSudani:
You can't obviously reason beyond what you know.

Dispute any of what I wrote up there now. You people's thinking faculties have been terribly damaged by toxic indoctrination of your pro-terrorist religion. Deal with it