Raf4:


Check the total number of your kinsmen that are scattered all over Yorubaland for economic survival and compare them to the number of your kinsmen that remain in your villages, expecting handouts from "diaspora" for their survival in your enclave.

ok apart from Lagos sea ports what can one say that they are going to any of the yoruba land for?

Christistruth00:



The Present Governor of Lagos is Ijebu

All of Eastern Lagos land mass belongs to Ijebuland even though that the Awori have the largest indigenous Population

Infact if you look at the Map of Lagos State considering that everything East and North of Lekki is Ijebuland you can argue that about half of Lagos State Land Mass is actually Ijebuland

Don't take my word for it just look at the Map of Lagos State yourself and see it with your own 2 eye
half of Lagos State Land Mass is Ijebuland
Everything East and North of Lekki, including Ikorodu

But that apart as long as Sanwo Olu is Yoruba it is fine

Lagos is Yorubaland

Yorubas overwhelmed Lagos taking advantage of proximity

YesDaddy1:
Was that what led to d conscription of Edos by Biafra?


https://www.nairaland.com/7922607/simon-ekpa-change-biafra-united

worry about the most coward clowns Sunday igboho that ran way forgetting his destiny just because of two gun shots

The truth is bitter , take it or go kill yourself
Lol

Iamgrey5:
You said kings in Lagos abi you didn't read right?

There is only one Oba of Eko
Don't be clever by half
And I never said Kings, I said King
Learn to read right

Video evidence

Oba of benin went to ife to see where they buried past oba of benin to in Ile ife.

https://twitter.com/ade0681/status/1729255024050790469?t=KiBoX-RxkTbFxuY0IQb1Lg&s=08

Evidence yaaapaa.

Another written evidence.

Christistruth00:



The Present Governor of Lagos is Ijebu

All of Eastern Lagos land mass belongs to Ijebuland even though that the Awori have the largest indigenous Population

Infact if you look at the Map of Lagos State considering that everything East and North of Lekki is Ijebuland you can argue that about half of Lagos State Land Mass is actually Ijebuland

Don't take my word for it just look at the Map of Lagos State yourself and see it with your own 2 eyes
half of Lagos State Land Mass is Ijebuland
Everything East and North of Lekki, including Ikorodu

But that apart as long as Sanwo Olu is Yoruba it is fine

Lagos is Yorubaland

Is Sanwo Lagos Ijebu or Ogun Ijebu?
Since you claim now that anyone can be governor anywhere in Yorubaland as long as he's Yoruba, can you give example of such happening in other states or is it restricted to only Lagos?

1Sharon:


What does Idu mean in Edo language?

Idun is a prefix in Edo language . And means an area or a quarters. Its usually added to another word such as the name of a people so it now means an area where certain people are living or dwelling.

Kukutenla:

Is Sanwo Lagos Ijebu or Ogun Ijebu?
Since you claim now that anyone can be governor anywhere in Yorubaland as long as he's Yoruba, can you give example of such happening in other states or is it restricted to only Lagos?

I. Yoruba Culture Ijebuland is one entity not to be Balkanized because Awujale is the highest Traditional of them all unless you want to return their Ancestral Territory to them

That would be half of Lagos State Land Mass Please

Everything East and North of Lekki including Ikorodu

VEHINTOLAR:


Stop spewing gibberish,Obanikoro is not a bini name ! You guys will just be sounding like an Authority on a subject matter you know nothing about ! How on earth is Obanikoro any Bini name when the word "Oba" itself was alien to the Binis before the arrival of Oranmiyan,a Prince from Ile Ife in their midst ?! The word "Oba" was coined from OBAtala, the first king in Yoruba land and who owns all the Yoruba Oba's crowns till tomorrow! Is Obatala not a Yoruba deity today ?!

Believe it or not,the only connection between Lagos royalty and that of Benin's is Oranmiyan ! Go and read the Ijaws'accounts of the history of Benin. The Ijaws stated very clearly in their own accounts that the "Benin royalty is of Yoruba descent" ! The Ijaws are Binis next door neighbors and they witnessed the arrival of "an highly influencial Yoruba Prince from Ife with his very large entourage" ! Go and read the Ijaws accounts of Benin history,it's on the internet !

I don't know if you're a Bini or not but the truth is that Yoruba culture influenced Bini's culture greatly, it's not other way round ! Is "Oyegun" a Bini name ? That's a Yoruba man's name from a family or compound with a renowned chieftaincy tittle ! Words like "Iya Oba", "Olori", "Asipa","Balogun",etc are well rooted in Yoruba language,they are all Yoruba names which the Binis have retained ! Bronze casting which Benin is renowned for today all over the world,was actually an ancient skill of the Ile Ife people which was taken to "Ile Ibinu" - Benin by Oranmiyan's entourage !

These Binis are quite funny and highly illogical in their reasonings. You claim Aworis are Binis but the progenitor of Awori people,Olofin Ogunfunminire was a Yoruba Prince from Ile Ife. Awori's quarters is in Ile Ife till tomorrow! Did Ogunfunminire change his name to Yoruba name or what 'cause that's clearly a Yoruba name ! As a matter of fact,the Olofin there is one the tittles of Oduduwa - Olofin Adimula of Ile Ife.

Take it or leave it,Bini people are not Yoruba but the Benin's royalty belongs to the Yoruba and that's the only connection with Lagos ! Olu of Warri recently affirmed his Yoruba root when he visited Ogun state,the king of Accra - Ga Mantse (Adangbe of Accra) recently visited Ooni of Ife in Ile Ife and openly confirmed his Yoruba root,so many Kings in disapora with Yoruba ancestry have repeatedly told whoever cares to know that they are Yorubas from Ile Ife,it is one inconsequential Bini people in just a state in Nigeria who stupidly believe they can rewrite Yoruba history,ko Jo!

Iamgrey5:
Actually, Obanikoro is a Benin name

However, Obanikoro doesn't have more than the land their iga(house) located at idumota in Lagos island.

We have Iga Eletu, iga Kosoko etc. On Lagos island. I believe iga is Benin world for house

However, the entire land on Lagos island belongs to Aromire sub clan of the Awori tribes and were known as the White cap chiefs.

The white chiefs are like likes of Oniru

There's no place one can find any significant Benin influence in Lagos outside idumota.

Iga is a Yoruba word.
Iga is also a Benin word but with a different meaning.

Iga in Yoruba language means structure or height. Structure could also be a building or compound., e.t.c derived from Ife/Oyo Yoruba.

Iga means "feather" in Benin language.

Goodvibes007:



Iga is a Yoruba word.
Iga has no meaning in Benin.

Iga means structure in Yoruba. Structure could also be a building or compound.

Do you even know that Basorun Ga the famous Basorun of 5 Alaafin of Oyo Actually got his name from Basorun Iga

He used to be in charge of an Iga where many Oyo Soldiers resided

Christistruth03:



Do you even know that Basorun Ga the famous Basorun of 5 Alaafin of Oyo Actually go his name from Basorun Iga

I tire my bro. Alot of yorubas don't even understand their own language.

Goodvibes007:

I tire my bro. Alot of yorubas don't even understand their own language.

This is a good opportunity to reteach them including the Epic Yoruba History

Do you know there were Moba Yoruba long people in Lagos before Oduduwa was born they had their own Kingdom
And the Moba Crown predates Oduduwa's own


If we tell them a little of the History of Yoruba Lagos if they have Conscience they will Shut up and beg for Forgiveness

There were Yorubas in Lagos long before Oduduwa was born
The first Oba of Ilesha fetched water from the sea at moba to Cure Oduduwa’s Blindness in the 10 th Century

moba is around Victoria Island
The moba crown Predates Oduduwa’s own it was some of theirPeople that Migrated to Otun Ekiti some are in Ijebu

The 9th Century 160km Eredo Wall near Ijebu was part of their Kingdom that reached the Sea and
Many Islands off the Coast of Lagos

most of the time they are Categorised with the Awori
but they were in Lagos Centuries Earlier

it was the Pre Oduduwa moba King called Seniade who idol Worshippers deified as Olokun
The Island he ruled from off the Coast of Lagos has now been submerged by the sea
And that was why his people moved to moba

If you see Ancient Yoruba Artifacts in South Africa from before Oduduwa was born Just know that it was moba People who took it there .
They ruled over a String of Islands and were experts in Travelling between Islands in the Atlantic Ocean

Can you see that if you think the History of Lagos Started with Oduduwa in the 10th Century you have not yet began

Yoruba History is a God Given Epic

Twistaray:
Evidence yaaapaa.

Another written evidence.

No need even wasting too much ink.

Below is Oba of Benin clearly stating on video that he is a direct descendant of Oranmiyan from the Oduduwa race.

https:///freeminderco/status/1729273469177635153?s=46&t=oGAxjhiGeufNKlYA6fDTyA

Christistruth03:



Do you even know that Basorun Ga the famous Basorun of 5 Alaafin of Oyo Actually got his name from Basorun Iga

He used to be in charge of an Iga where many Oyo Soldiers resided

You guys are dvmb beyond belief! Iga actually means shed, shelter or house. But it's real meaning in ancient Yoruba history means 'Court'. A place where the king and his chiefs hold discussions about the town's welfare. Please note that the 'court' is not a law court neither does it mean palace.

Palace is Aafin and it refers to the whole building. But the specific place in the palace where meetings are held is called 'Iga' meaning court. e.g Iga Iduganran.

You cannot understand Yoruba language more than the true Yorubas themselves.

PS- that your assertion of Basorun Ga is a total nonsense. It's just a figment of your own hallucinations.

Meaning of Iga in Benin.

ravensckar:
You guys are dvmb beyond belief! Iga actually means shed, shelter or house. But it's real meaning in ancient Yoruba history means 'Court'. A place where the king and his chiefs hold discussions about the town's welfare. Please note that the 'court' is not a law court neither does it mean palace.

Palace is Aafin and it refers to the whole building. But the specific place in the palace where meetings are held is called 'Iga' meaning court. e.g Iga Iduganran.

You cannot understand Yoruba language more than the true Yorubas themselves.

PS- that your assertion of Basorun Ga is a total nonsense. It's just a figment of your own hallucinations.

In Yoruba Iga means Compound

And Basorun Ga got that name while he was in Charge of a Military Compound were Oyo Soldiers Trained and were Stationed

Basorun Iga =. Basorun Ga

LegendHero:


No need even wasting too much ink.

Below is Oba of Benin clearly stating on video that he is a direct descendant of Oranmiyan from the Oduduwa race.

https:///freeminderco/status/1729273469177635153?s=46&t=oGAxjhiGeufNKlYA6fDTyA

He's even our son.

Lmaoo.

LegendHero:


No need even wasting too much ink.

Below is Oba of Benin clearly stating on video that he is a direct descendant of Oranmiyan from the Oduduwa race.

https:///freeminderco/status/1729273469177635153?s=46&t=oGAxjhiGeufNKlYA6fDTyA

The Bible says Wisdom is profitable to direct.

Ok

Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is

Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).

(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)



Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila


oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or Izoduwa

They did not mention Izoduwa but called Oduduwa the great Odua of Ife

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son

There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

Christistruth03:


In Yoruba Iga means Compound

And Basorun Ga got that name while he was in Charge of a Military Compound were Oyo Soldiers Trained and were Stationed

Basorun Iga =. Basorun Ga

His full title was Basorun Gaha which was shortened to Gaa. It has nothing to do with 'Iga'.

ravensckar:
His full title was Basorun Gaha which was shortened to Gaa. It has nothing to do with 'Iga'.

Basorun Ga came from Basorun Iga that is what the Oyo people first called him because he was in charge of a Military Compound (Iga)
Which today would be likened to s Military Baracks


Ok what does Gaha mean ?

It was only the way some people pronounced Ga which came from the Yoruba Word Iga

OVB123:
Why are you now angry that benin own lagos.

How did Benin own Lagos, where in Lagos?

In stating that "Benin founded Lagos", I am sure HRM Omo N'Oba means well.

Please, I will beg my Yoruba brothers to adhere to the edicts of Omoluabi.
1. You do not attack your own
2. You do not disrespect or dishonor Ori Ade, it is sacred.
3. HRM is not our mate here in nairaland, he is above all the nonsense we are writing.

Above all, when we insult Omo n' Oba, it rubs off on his brothers - Alaafin, Awujale, Alake, Orangun and so on. Please, let us desist now. I beg my Yoruba brothers. Love Oba of Benin with same quality and passion of love you will show other Obas. He is not an Obi, he is not Eze, he is not Emir or Etsu. He is an Oba.
What does this mean to us? He is Yoruba. He is our Father, our Priest-King, our Warrior-King, our Sacred King. No more harsh and unkind words to HRM.

Oba of Benin was deliberate in making that "founder" statement. He did not believe in the choice of words, hence he struggled to amend it with a clarification and said "maybe part of". By making this claim he has thrown a challenge at historians. Now authorities and academicians will begin to dig for roots that were never before now researched. So in a way, HRM is a social troubleshooter. This is necessary once a while to explore and reveal bonds of commonality amongst the people of Yoruba Commonwealth. It should not be viewed negatively.

I will help give clarifications on some of areas that are either confusing or unknown to commentators and participants on this thread.

MetaPhysical:
In stating that "Benin founded Lagos", I am sure HRM Omo N'Oba means well.

Please, I will beg my Yoruba brothers to adhere to the edicts of Omoluabi.
1. You do not attack your own
2. You do not disrespect or dishonor Ori Ade, it is sacred.
3. HRM is not our mate here in nairaland, he is above all the nonsense we are writing.

Above all, when we insult Omo n' Oba, it rubs off on his brothers - Alaafin, Awujale, Alake, Orangun and so on. Please, let us desist now. I beg my Yoruba brothers. Love Oba of Benin with same quality and passion of love you will show other Obas. He is not an Obi, he is not Eze, he is not Emir or Etsu. He is an Oba.
What does this mean to us? He is Yoruba. He is our Father, our Priest-King, our Warrior-King, our Sacred King. No more harsh and unkind words to HRM.

Wisdom

Kukutenla:

Is English so hard for you or bigotry is affecting you?
Lagos as a kingdom was founded by Bini
It is Lagos as a settlement that belongs to Aworis

Which kingdom. Una dey smoke too much

ravensckar:
His full title was Basorun Gaha which was shortened to Gaa. It has nothing to do with 'Iga'.

Basorun Ga or Gaha as you called it was derived from the Oyo People calling him Basorun Iga


Look at the Map of Iga Iyere near Saki in Oyo State below
There is also another Iga Saliu in Osun State
There is Iga Fulani in Kwara

Ok what does Gaha mean in Yoruba?

The "founding of Lagos" in HRM's statement is a reference to the "Erinjogun Ola" dynasty. This is the dynasty in Iga Iduganran. The succeeding Obas are scions of Eweka in Benin.

The most authentic narration on their ancestry and history was obtained from King Kosoko in his negotiations with British Consul, John Beecroft.

Beecroft was trying to win Kosoko over to the British side and offered him friendship, followed by request for his allegiance to Queen Victoria. The King replied by saying he did not desire friendship with the British, and "my allegiance is to Oba in Benin, he coronates authority to the throne". Benin Court dispatched Chiefs to perform ceremonies and rituals of coronation at Enu Owa in Lagos. Here Kosoko was saying Oba of Lagos was a subject of Oba of Benin. Consequently, King Kosoko was the last Oba to get staff of office from Benin. He lost his war against British and departed on exile to Epe. Ever since, no King of Lagos has received staff of office from Benin. When Dosunmu ceeded Lagos to Beecroft, Benin lost its authority over Lagos for ever. The Oba signed allegiance to Queen Victoria, and received Staff of Office from British officials. Conincidentally, this was the tradition of State Governor's power to give Staff of Office to traditional rulers till today. It's origin is Lagos, 1861.

There is nothing wrong in saying Benin was the origin of Lagos Monarchy. Political correctness and invisible turf wars over influence and dominance has spilled over and threatened cultural and traditional brotherhood that subsisted our common ancestry. This war of competition has resulted in undesirable outcomes and vastly impacted the Binin people and their land. Beginning in 1962 Benin, under heavy influence of the political class had agitated to be separated from Western Nigeria. The separation was completed in 1963, and till today Benin has remained behind in development and social upliftment, stuck in its provincial age. Other provinces it left behind in Western Nigeria have evolved and attained record progress. In this, there is lessons learnt. However, the political separation also empowered some people, including previous Oba of Benin to seek a cultural and ancestral separation as well. To that end, a controversy erupted which was pushed to create a new identity for Benin, independent of its source in Ife, and also to swap dominance and elevate Benin above Ife.

The controversy of origin of the Royals in Iduganran is a parallel and a continuum from the Benin denials of its root in Ife. Ife is father of all of us, from Ghana to Benin and, along with many dispersed nationalities around modern world today.

The geo-spatial references in Lagos Island are many. I will list just a few here. For those who care to know, they mean a lot.

Enu (as in Enu Owa)
Ita (as in Ita Koseh)
Oke (as in Oke Popo)
Isale (as in Isale Eko)
Oju (as in Oju Olobun)
Idu (as in Iduntafa)

Enu is confluence, or a 4-way stop in a road
Ita is outskirt, or threshold
Oke is upper
Isale is lower
Oju is epicenter
Idu is settlement

sotall:


Idun is a prefix in Edo language . And means an area or a quarters. Its usually added to another word such as the name of a people so it now means an area where certain people are living or dwelling.

Correct. Also used as a prefix in names of clans.