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Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by owagbeba: 7:44pm On Jan 20 |
Many vessels plying the Red Sea have resulted to declaring “No Link to Israel “ on the AIS despite the American-led operation against the Houthis. It’s crucial for the US government to understand that the fear of American big guns is waning. Nations in the axis of resistance have understood that the American-led power bloc have no clue on how to fight asymmetric war. And the idea of moving a big fat target (aircraft carrier) to every theatre of war May one day result to a disastrous end of American power reign - a sunk hegemon. 2 Likes |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by owagbeba: 7:46pm On Jan 20 |
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Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by Floky215: 7:49pm On Jan 20 |
owagbeba: Fact is the west is preparing a comprehensive breakfast for the houthis...!! They already got their attention and they would he properly dealt with...!! |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by owagbeba: 8:05pm On Jan 20 |
Floky215: Breakfast since 2014? Ten years after the onset of US-Saudi onslaught on Yemen, we are yet to see them tomahawk-breakfast. I guess there must be a reason why the Saudis are not in kitchen for this breakfast. They have learnt their lesson. 7 Likes |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by cjudy(m): 8:14pm On Jan 20 |
Houthi that’s collecting wotowoto everyday from USA. Dey play. The media are hiding it because it’s USA, if it’s Israel or Russia, they will publish and be shouting 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by Nahunger(m): 1:02am On Jan 21 |
owagbeba: Yimu Untill America strike we go dey hear free Houthis, justice for yemen bla bla bla bla bla 🤧 1 Like |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by Nahunger(m): 1:03am On Jan 21 |
Floky215:Leave am e think say na Nigeria Army or Police |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by obedience4(m): 3:56am On Jan 21 |
owagbeba: Dude, the USA response is just a limited one,. Yemen has no usefulness to the USA this is one of the poorest state in the middle East with no natural resources and no historic ties to the west it has no significance. The west won't stand idle if a country like let say Kuwait is under rebels rule because of it's significant to the stability of oil and it's prices. While Saudi Arabia is the biggest exporter of oil and the biggest economy in the middle East Yemen is in ruins and different rebels rule different zone of the country Read about the daily bombings of the Saudi Arabia airforce against Yemen, the reason the Saudis will sit is because of the Israeli factor, they won't want to be seen as supporting Israeli government against a Arab one,but the moment Saudi ship's gets attack or the Saudi Arabia owned Aramco oil facilities or it's operations are disrupted then you will feel the force of the Saudi military. |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by owagbeba: 8:05am On Jan 21 |
obedience4: Bab Al Mandab crossing is quite important to US and the west for them to mobilize an Armada to the strait just to keep traffic open. Despite the presence of the US military, Houthis have continued to attack US/Israeli linked vessels. Saudis, despite the U.S. and UK backing, have sought peace with the Houthis. For 10 years of Saudi/US onslaught on Yemen, Houthis have continued to take the pain back to the Saudis with catastrophic consequences for the coalition. Yemen has nothing to loose. Saudis have so much to loose in a continued war with the Houthis; and they have realized this, and sought peace with Houthis. May I remind you that those who fought for the Saudis in Yemen are mostly Sudanese army recruits . And the civil war in Sudan may have taken that option of foot soldiers off for the Saudis. 1 Like
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Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by bassdow: 11:53am On Jan 21 |
There are reasons FuLaNi's don't build or own anything useful in places they reside. na so when wahala start, they havve next to nothing to loose. it's almost useless and silly waging war among those with nothing (except their miserable lives) to loose. |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by obedience4(m): 1:10pm On Jan 21 |
owagbeba: It's either you are the spokesman of the Yemen people or you clearly don't know what you are saying. How many ship's have been credited to have sunk by the houtis terrorist, not one ship has been sunk by the rebels. How has the houtis terrorist inflicted pain on the Saudis, I seriously want to know, You said the Yemeni people have nothing to loose, when they have lost everything, Quoting the UN food program director She said the suffering of the Yemeni people has been a case not seen since biblical times The country has one of the worst humanitarian crisis in the world presently Close to 15,000 people were killed by air strike by the Saudi Arabia led coalition Yet you sit and write that they have nothing to lose, lol. It was political pressure that made the Saudis Sue for Peace, because of the civilians mounting casualties not because they had much to lose, Same political pressure that Israel is facing now https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine_in_Yemen_(2016%E2%80%93present) |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by Dicado: 9:35pm On Jan 21 |
owagbeba:No you're wrong. People actually fear the US guns. But it depends on who is there as the president. If somehow somebody like Trump becomes the US president again, you'll see how everywhere will be calm, awaiting for the next weak government. Trump is more proactive, he attacks before your planned attack takes place. Biden warned the Houthis for 3 months, before finally moving the US military there. Trump would have placed the guns on you even before you think about pressing the button. So, US is still very powerful and even twice more powerful than we thought. If you're following world news you'll see that these guys are actually controlling the world. Biden is a product of Obama and these guys are somewhat behind some jihad terrorists. But Trump is against anything that bears the jihad symbol as terrorism. So, don't expect anybody to be afraid of his brother. How many Houthis leaders have been killed? None! Trump went as far as killing a terrorist leader in Iraq and it silenced the whole trouble that would have happened in the entire middle East then. Everybody knows that Biden is seeking for a second tenure and doesn't have the guts to do any serious military operations... So, yeah! It will appear like the US is weak. |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by panpan(m): 9:42pm On Jan 21 |
What does AIS mean? |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by owagbeba: 10:32pm On Jan 21 |
obedience4: Quite risible to learn that the Saudis halted attacks on the Houthis after ten years of incessant assault due to the HUMANITARIAN consequences. may be the terrible pain of Saudi Aramco bombing by Houthis deep in Saudi territory got them (Saudis) to see the reason to seek peace. Even the yanks could not help them defend Saudi-Aramco facility. It is equally important to read the press releases of the major shipping lines on the situation in the Red Sea. Many are moving frieights down south through Cape of good hope. Others are declaring a No links to Israel on the AiS system because some vessels have been successfully hit by drones/missiles …. Isn’t this enough proof of the Houthi threat?
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Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by obedience4(m): 12:00pm On Jan 22 |
owagbeba: You brought a single article of the houtis hitting a oil deport in Saudi Arabia, No system is fail proof, of course the the houtis can have a lucky hit, Even Russia with is s400 and s300 are getting hit by the Ukrainian Please do a simple research and tell me how many times Saudi Arabia was hit The reason which is plain is that the humanitarian issue stop the Saudi Arabia and it's coalition from turning Yemen from dust Also just to remind you That the houtis control just 35 percent of Yemen territory. Also name just two vessels with proofs that were hit by the houtis since they started this there fail project. Civilians ships have no counter measures against a drone and missiles attacks hence they will always look for the safest route and safety of crews will always come first. |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by owagbeba: 6:48pm On Jan 22 |
obedience4: Just to mention a few vessels successfully hit by the Houthis : Genco Picardy bulk carrier Zografia ship Gibraltar Eagle
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Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by Deltancapo: 6:59pm On Jan 22 |
owagbeba: Which vessel tracker is this? |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by Deltancapo: 7:00pm On Jan 22 |
Floky215: Talked like a 20 years old, here is not meet for you. |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by Deltancapo: 7:02pm On Jan 22 |
owagbeba: Leave am naaa illiterate, ignorance de worry am |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by Deltancapo: 7:04pm On Jan 22 |
cjudy: No wonder Nigeria is not moving forward cos of majority like you, and you will be calling yourself educated person, imagine. |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by obedience4(m): 7:47pm On Jan 22 |
owagbeba: How many sunk How many casualties 40 percent of sea cargo pass through that parts of the sea ,of course a couple of ships will be hit likely by drones Yet not one ship has been hijacked or one ship skunked, or even one injury? A low budget drone attack, Even the Somalia pirates have done more damage in the horn of Africa than the houtis. The truth is am trying to establish is that the houtis are too low budget,to cause serious disruptions In the red sea. The bottom line is this, the conclusion of the matter is simple, if the houtis continue in there barbaric attack, they will keep getting hit by air strikes and the lovely hell fire missiles and the wonderful TOMAHAWK cruise missiles Yemeni people will continue to die and live in poverty. |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by owagbeba: 7:56pm On Jan 22 |
Deltancapo: Brother.. this is a public forum. We must observe some level of respect to everyone. It does not show good etiquette to call someone an illiterate just because he or she has an opposing view on an issue ..please! |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by owagbeba: 8:00pm On Jan 22 |
obedience4: Well… the US do not consider the Houthis threats and actions low budget to move a whole coalition and armada to the Red Sea. Just to add a cherry on the previous 3 vessels attacked,see this one below.
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Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by obedience4(m): 8:27pm On Jan 22 |
owagbeba: Interest bro interest, Civilians ships can't deal with drones hence the redeployment, the key word here is "redeployment" it's not as if the USA navy moved assets because of the houtis, some ships were simply redeployed to key zone in the red sea to deal with the houtis menace. The USA navy fifth fleet is station permanently on the middle East headquarters in Bahrain, It's funny when you say "armada" When they are just only 3 USA navy hArleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer in the red sea When the USA navy really wants to deploy a detterance they send a carrier strike group The kind of deployment we saw during the start of the Israel hamas war, When they were two carriers strike group The USS ford and USS Dwight D. Eisenhower aircraft carrier strike group's in the Mediterranean sea to detter Iran from escalating the war. the USA gave the houtis multiple warnings to stop the provocations before last two weeks air strikes the USA won't give warnings to Isis, or Taliban, even before this month they were not even in the USA list of terrorism organisation. Trust me the houtis group are the least of USA troubles |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by owagbeba: 10:22pm On Jan 22 |
obedience4: I’d say I love your tenacity to still put forward your argument despite the fact you counter your own points made earlier. You called the Houthis a “low budget” threat and 3 destroyers in the Red Sea with coalition strike vessels in tow a play in the pond? C’mon man! If they(Houthis) were so low budget and not threat to the vessels, why would the US form a coalition of the willing to go counter the Houthis threat? They (US) even gave the whole operation a name: Operation prosperity guardian. Such a “piss” threat and the US is lobbing million-dollar tomahawk at such? Here is a list of the countries at play in the red pond countering a low budget threat:
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Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by Rolings: 3:34am On Jan 23 |
obedience4: Na lie The reason Saudi is not involved in the maritime task force is because its seen the foolishness US dragged it into in Yemen.... US used it and Bahrain with UAE to form a coalition when in actual fact they are fighting a US proxy war against Iran. |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by obedience4(m): 6:27am On Jan 23 |
owagbeba: Lol, I will be dissecting your response one after the other. Firstly every USA president trips are military operation and have operation name's Even humanitarian aid assistance undertaking by the USA military are given operation name's, Operation name is not an issue here. Something the USA have done time again is always involving it's allies when conducting operation, I believe you have read the wiki page for operation prosperity guardian, how many of these other countries are contributing a ship?? None ,only The royal navy of Britain as a vessel in the red sea. Do you know the number of square miles of of sea just 3 destroyers are there to police, Thousands of square miles of sea We are talking about 3 destroyers who are not even given the oder to attack but track and destroy missiles and drones fired by the houtis and only attacks when in self defence. Also there is no other sea based cruise missile system In the USA ship's only the TOMAHAWK missiles, how do you expect the USA to hit the houtis ,from the sea?? They will have to use what they have |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by owagbeba: 10:29am On Jan 23 |
obedience4: You seem to have a dislike for the word “armada”? What constitutes an Armada ? Aren’t the fleet of vessels (4 or 5, if the Greeks come through with one) in the current operation prosperity guardian an Armada? Please school me. You have likened Houthis “low budget” attacks as ineffective because no vessel has been sunk, but US Air Force Maj.Gen. Pat Ryder doesn’t think so: "and these attacks are impacting global trade and commerce, negatively impacting the economies of nations around the world and costing commercial shipping firms billions of dollars," Ryder said. |
Re: Fear Of Houthis: Many Vessels Declare No Link To Israel On AIS by obedience4(m): 11:50am On Jan 23 |
owagbeba: The USA just conducted a new airstrike against the houtis this morning. The key word is this are dose ships there to attack the houti, no they are there to stop shoot down the missile and drones of the houtis, They are there not there for offensive operation but defensive, to show you the level of how the USA takes the houtis. It was after repeated Warning's that the USA attacked houtis, the USA knows that the houtis are mainly pawn in the hands of Iran |
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