₦airaland Forum

Hmmmmm you see this man called trump he is an intelligent man who speaks carelessly and put his listeners under pression to puzzle their way out

A simple observation will from, one will know that some thses EU nations are just fools pumping money to US while they don't have nuclear weapons very stupid thinking and now US is talking to them anyhow.
With all their advancement they should team up to produce weapons but no US is against it but I am very sure if any nuclear arm nation want to bomb any nato nation US will run away and say it's their battle, but some people think it's only African nations that are idiots.
This is a warning against the future occurrence

LordReed:
How do you reckon US is playing big brother in NATO?

Aren't they?
Take Ukraine for example. USA is not in Europe but they are spending more for a country that got into trouble aligning itself with EU

Fineman2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGP1hJJNstI



https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-says-he-would-encourage-russia-to-attack-nato-members-that-dont-pay-enough

Trump! The American's version of Wike

If some certain people know whom trump is, they would have a rethink about their support for him. That dude don't give a damn fvck whose toes he's stepping on provided you don't align with his lines of belief. He's basically full of himself.

bemeruca:
Trump is an idiot. Just close your mouth and not say something stupid.

how does this statement make him an idiot? Explain or ogun will visit u soon

Appletek:
This Trump thinks like Simon Ekpa

The Duo are Great Guys. I liked ur comment cos they do, they are awesome Great Guys

Trump too dey talk sha, there are somethings better left unsaid

bemeruca:
Aren't they?
Take Ukraine for example. USA is not in Europe but they are spending more for a country that got into trouble aligning itself with EU

Ukraine is not a NATO nation so the US involvement in Ukraine is not the US playing big brother in NATO. Granted it is playing big brother in Ukraine though.

HardBishop:
Na you be.......
Go and form your own weapon.. stop depending on America.
Begi begi

Ewu.. you got your weapon?

bemeruca:
Trump is an idiot. Just close your mouth and not say something stupid.

What before u conclude....

His words were just twisted to fit the opposing party agenda

LordReed:
Ukraine is not a NATO nation so the US involvement in Ukraine is not the US playing big brother in NATO. Granted it is playing big brother in Ukraine though.

My point was the crisis is at Europe where most of the NATO nations are yet they seat back and allow America do all the heavy lifting. That is the US playing big brother.

NATO is white imperialism in modern times and the funny thing is they many foolish Africans here in Nigeria and other black African nations are some of its biggest praise singers,an organization that was formed with the sole aim controlling the world via military and economic terms to give advantage to the white Caucasian race and to the detriment of all other races. As for una when many for this forum when not get sense at all so with una shallow minded support for una white masters so,make una continue o,slavery will exist again and na una dem go carry go next.

bemeruca:
Trump is an idiot. Just close your mouth and not say something stupid.

Says a bigger idiot living in shithole Nigeria

This man is nothing but a loose cannon. Scam artist and racial bigot rolled into one

Laurene:
Says a bigger idiot living in shithole Nigeria

I live in the US and I am a trump supporter. I want him to stay out of controversy till he gets elected since the senile donkey in the white house is not getting any positive press. This is the time for Trump to tone down and avoid controversy till he gets elected.

people hate to hear the truth........
they loved to be lied to....
and that is wat is ruining the world at large Nigeria most expecially.....
I love the man gut to speak sincerely even though it going to hurt his ambition....

atleast his people will knw what should b expected from than later bn deceived Nd disappointed latter if lied to

blowjohn:
Men them.
People who control power, businesses by any means legal or illegal.

U gotta be tough to go against them like Trump did during his first tenure.




A deep state is a type of governance made up of potentially secret and unauthorized networks of power operating independently of a state's political leadership in pursuit of their own agenda and goals. In popular usage, the term carries overwhelmingly negative connotations.

Based on your answer, every government has its version of the deep state. You don't think trump came to power without the support of some non-government actors who supported him just to further their own 'selfish' interest? Now, with a democrat in power, if Biden's policies do not favor those people and their agenda, they automatically become 'a deep state' against the government, just like there were some democratic leaning 'deep state' against Trump's government when he was in power.

The reason I am pointing this out is because I have seen commentaries on Nairaland and elsewhere trying to portray this 'deep state' as something that is only opposed to a government, making reference to Trump's time in power. At every time, T, there are pro-government 'deep state' and anti-government 'deep state'.

Every government fights with the anti-government 'deep state'. It has nothing to do with being tough or not; It is just the way it is.

Damnnn niggar That will also put America at increased riskThis man is smoking the wrong weedDamnnn niggar That will also put America at increased riskThis man is smoking the wrong weed...

Donald Trump, a US version of Ezonye Wike of Nigeria.

HitRun:
Based on your answer, every government has its version of the deep state. You don't think trump came to power without the support of some non-government actors who supported him just to further their own 'selfish' interest? Now, with a democrat in power, if Biden's policies do not favor those people and their agenda, they automatically become 'a deep state' against the government, just like there were some democratic leaning 'deep state' against Trump's government when he was in power.

The reason I am pointing this out is because I have seen commentaries on Nairaland and elsewhere trying to portray this 'deep state' as something that is only opposed to a government, making reference to Trump's time in power. At every time, T, there are pro-government 'deep state' and anti-government 'deep state'.

Every government fights with the anti-government 'deep state'. It has nothing to do with being tough or not; It is just the way it is.

Ur not entirely correct.
Trump cud have come into power via some other powerful blocs.
That doesn't mean it was the deep state.

His(Trump's) backup may be strong, but not as strong as the deep state and certainly not as dangerous as the deep state.

Again for a country like America where there are strong institutions, even the deep state has its limits cos of the courts and independency of many other groups.

I agree there are pro government deep state(where of cos they have been able to install their puppet as president) and anti government deep state where the president isn't in alignment with their doings.

boldtruthalways:
He never said that in the true context. He was just making a point. Fake journalist should stop twisting issues. He's simply emphasising the need for NATO to pay up and not leave the entire burden on U.S.A. He's a smart President who loves his people and wishes to use their resources for the good of his people and not wasting it on foreign countries who do not like them. Greatest President ever.

One of the few wey get sense.

HitRun:
What is deep state?

Do you really want to go down this rabbit hole?

Israel07:
Humans just hate the truth! Gosh. He's a businessman who cares for his own people and put them first. Like y tf should America spend it's citizens tax money on defending European countries that wouldn't do nothing for their own safety?
Nairaland is where stupidity reign supreme. Just look at the comments. There was no single war anywhere during his time but Biden the simp oversaw the death of millions from Afghanistan to Ukraine to Palestine. Putin would never invade Ukraine under Trump's watch as Hamas will never be mad enough to go and touch Israel's tail cos they know what's going to come with it. Biden allow this shit go on and then take his country tax payers money to sponsor bullshit, Trump will never do that.
Hamas lucky shaa cos if they dared that nonsense under Trump Gaza would be desolate by now...
All I know is that Trump is coming back to the white house to put y'alll mfs in ya place

You have to structure your sentences for us to understand..

Do you mean Putin is afraid of Trump?.. I already know stupidly abounds here...

bemeruca:
Aren't they?
Take Ukraine for example. USA is not in Europe but they are spending more for a country that got into trouble aligning itself with EU

US is spending more because it's against Russia than any EU countries protection...

bemeruca:
I live in the US and I am a trump supporter. I want him to stay out of controversy till he gets elected since the senile donkey in the white house is not getting any positive press. This is the time for Trump to tone down and avoid controversy till he gets elected.

Yeah I believe Trump has a large mouth but that's just his being him. He wasn't built to be a politician... Remember he was a reality TV host and not an actor like Ronald Reagan. He's different from Jon Stewart or Jimmy Kimmel or Trevor Noah who run comedy centrals.

Americans are getting tired of endless wars and NATO countries exploiting the US. They failed to pay their 2 percent dues for 10 years now. How long would Americans keep funding countries that hate them?

The Dems used to be the anti war party but because of their hatred for Putin they changed ideology.

Even before Ukraine-Russo war, Trump ran as an anti war republican...He attacked Bush and McCain as neocon war mongers/hawks just as he's doing to Nikki Haley.
Trump helped change the Republican party that's why other republican challenger couldn't gain traction...Even if he's no more, he's brand of conservatism ain't dieing.

The Dems and their media are evil. They'll twist everything Trump said to fit their own narrative... It's panic because he has been consistently leading the polls since 2022.

blowjohn:
Ur not entirely correct.
Trump cud have come into power via some other powerful blocs.
That doesn't mean it was the deep state.

His(Trump's) backup may be strong, but not as strong as the deep state and certainly not as dangerous as the deep state.

Again for a country like America where there are strong institutions, even the deep state has its limits cos of the courts and independency of many other groups.

I agree there are pro government deep state(where of cos they have been able to install their puppet as president) and anti government deep state where the president isn't in alignment with their doings.

How can you be powerful and not 'deep state'? See what I am saying - the idea that there is a deep state when it comes to other presidents, but no deep state when it is Trump - the bias is all too evident to see.

Trump is the deep States nightmares

HitRun:
How can you be powerful and not 'deep state'? See what I am saying - the idea that there is a deep state when it comes to other presidents, but no deep state when it is Trump - the bias is all too evident to see.

No nah.
U can be powerful and not move or operate like the deep state. It's like the mafia. They can be violent, secretive etc. They can do many illegal things deliberately at the detriment of the citizens e.g drugs, prostitution rings, killer squads etc. because they want to control vast interests.

The government on the other hand in a democratic setting follows the Constitution.


Both sides can always be brought down by a strong institution like the courts in a country built on non ambiguous laws. (Watergate scandal, Clinton scandal, Trump scandals) etc

If the deep state were too powerful, even Trump won't win a single case cos they wud be able to influence the courts.


Even for naija, there are very few people that can mess with the deep state (cabals in this case).


And it's usually by starving them of their sources of money and power.

So in summary, u can be the president and yet still fear certain circles of people.

And u can be the president and be able to deal with them, depending on ur inner circle. But it still doesn't make u the deep state cos u don't subscribe to their methods of power and survival.

blowjohn:
No nah.
U can be powerful and not move or operate like the deep state. It's like the mafia. They can be violent, secretive etc. They can do many illegal things deliberately at the detriment of the citizens e.g drugs, prostitution rings, killer squads etc. because they want to control vast interests.

The government on the other hand in a democratic setting follows the Constitution.


Both sides can always be brought down by a strong institution like the courts in a country built on non ambiguous laws. (Watergate scandal, Clinton scandal, Trump scandals) etc

If the deep state were too powerful, even Trump won't win a single case cos they wud be able to influence the courts.


Even for naija, there are very few people that can mess with the deep state (cabals in this case).


And it's usually by starving them of their sources of money and power.

So in summary, u can be the president and yet still fear certain circles of people.

And u can be the president and be able to deal with them, depending on ur inner circle. But it still doesn't make u the deep state cos u don't subscribe to their methods of power and survival.

All powerful people are the same, powerful.

My point is, there is nothing like deep state powerful and non-deep state powerful. They are all the same.

Laurene:
Yeah I believe Trump has a large mouth but that's just his being him. He wasn't built to be a politician... Remember he was a reality TV host and not an actor like Ronald Reagan. He's different from Jon Stewart or Jimmy Kimmel or Trevor Noah who run comedy centrals.

Americans are getting tired of endless wars and NATO countries exploiting the US. They failed to pay their 2 percent dues for 10 years now. How long would Americans keep funding countries that hate them?

The Dems used to be the anti war party but because of their hatred for Putin they changed ideology.

Even before Ukraine-Russo war, Trump ran as an anti war republican...He attacked Bush and McCain as neocon war mongers/hawks just as he's doing to Nikki Haley.
Trump helped change the Republican party that's why other republican challenger couldn't gain traction...Even if he's no more, he's brand of conservatism ain't dieing.

The Dems and their media are evil. They'll twist everything Trump said to fit their own narrative... It's panic because he has been consistently leading the polls since 2022.

Even though he was on tv, now is the time for him to be using his head and be strategic not start bringing controversy as the media is looking for excuse to shift focus from Biden to him.

This does not help him in anyway. He should shut up. Many people who voted for biden voted because they can't stand trump, now they saw their mistake but they have no choice. They wish the options are not biden and trump.

All he has to do to win now is just to shut the hell up and point his fingers at Biden.

LifeofDream:
US is spending more because it's against Russia than any EU countries protection...

The whole of Europe is against Russia. Some are even talking about Russia attacking them. They had that discussion last month and Germany was one of the party.

Europe is more at risk as Russia is at their borders. The US is so far away.

EU is reluctant to do anything. The tension at the red sea. What is France doing? Italy, Germany etc. The US and UK had to take actions to protect the trade of these countries yet they cannot meet their 2% GDP.